Also Israel typifies the people of God.

Jews who don't beleive Jesus Christ is the Messiah are a type of unbeliever.

Therefore I can see a parallel there because the BIble says that they were blinded so that the Gospel could be preached to the Gentiles.

Therefore I believe that God is "blinding spiritually" some people in order that others may believe!!!
We don't understand this all the time, because it's "God's thing" and His ways are not our ways"!!

Also, I don't know aobut you, but I can spot a Jew because they have facial features unlike any other race! I believe it is a type because we are supposed to "SPOT" BELIEVERS as well, just like we can spot Jews! Because believers look so different!

Jewish women are so beautiful!

Here's a type of shadow,

Satan disputed with Michael over the body of Moses.

There was a great dispute in the Church over the Law, (Moses' body),
and there may well be one again.

Incidentally, the Moslems esteem big Mo very highly.


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The fact that this OT shadow appears at the end of the NT,
right before Revelation,
might be construed as a clue.

"Satan disputed with Michael over the body of Moses."

I've always wondered WHY... interesting thoughts baby.

Thanks Julie.




Phylacteries.

Dead with the Law, or revived under the beast?

'a form of Godliness, but denying the power thereof...'???

Upon thine hand: We must have out actions guided by the Word
Memorial between thine eyes : No matter how you "head is turned" you will always see things through the Word of God.

So Actions and reactions are all guided.

that the LORD'S law may be in thy mouth

Psa 107:2 Let the redeemed of Jehovah say so, Whom he hath redeemed from the hand of the adversary,

How do we "say so"?

We agree with what the Word say. In that way, we agree with the Word (Jesus) and we confess the Word (Jesus) before men:

Mat 10:32 Every one therefore who shall confess me (The Word) before men, him will I also confess before my Father who is in heaven.
Mat 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me (the Word) before men, him will I also deny before my Father who is in heaven.

C

C, I am wondering. Sometimes the obvious is just too obvious.

I think Mazzatron spoke about this a long time back, and for me it went in one ear and out the other.



If scripture interprets itself, then the phylactery seems to be the answer to what the mark is.

How come?

Well, I now see that the great delusion is going to be Legalistic Christianity.

Law-keeping 'Christianity.'

There are many things related to this........but that's what I see.

This scripture has just come to me:


Legalistic Christianity is a slap in the face to Christ, and is like saying , ' Your work on the cross wasn't enough.'

Brother , what fascinates me these days actually is the opposite of "something is too obvious"
Actually I have come to realise that only God opens eyes and only God gives revelation. Try as we may, we are only instruments and when we move in our own "good intentions" nothing happens.
I have seen "obvious truth" overlooked EVERY DAY on this forum. Its just like.......people pass it by with no eyes at all.

I must say, this fact has given me great respect for the sovereignty of God. I really pray that He will open my eyes to His truth, but also those of all of us here on the forum.
It scares me to see how people are walking past real truth. What is also scary, is when I see something that is really profound and then somebody passes it by and breaks it down. Then I think: "Oh Dear God, this person might never hear this again, in this way. What will now happen to them ?

But the Lord has taught me: Pray and believe that I will move on their behalf.

And you know what: He does.

We have to let go and trust Him to do HIS work. He is not fazed, He is in control
praise God
C

Jos 10:16 And these five kings (our five senses) fled, and hid themselves in the cave at Makkedah.
Jos 10:17 And it was told Joshua, saying, The five kings are found, hidden in the cave at Makkedah.
Jos 10:18 And Joshua said, Roll great stones (The Word)unto the mouth (Our mouth )of the cave, and set men by it to keep them:
Jos 10:19 but stay not ye; pursue after your enemies, and smite the hindmost of them; suffer them not to enter into their cities: for Jehovah your God hath delivered them into your hand.

This is the way conquer the enemies of the promise: sickness, poverty, opression, etc......trust the promises and not your 5 kings. Allow only the Word in your mouth and not a bad report

Jos 10:20 And it came to pass, when Joshua and the children of Israel had made an end of slaying them with a very great slaughter, till they were consumed, and the remnant which remained of them had entered into the fortified cities,
Jos 10:21 that all the people returned to the camp to Joshua at Makkedah in peace: none moved his tongue against any of the children of Israel.
Jos 10:22 Then said Joshua, Open the mouth of the cave, and bring forth those five kings unto me out of the cave.
Jos 10:23 And they did so, and brought forth those five kings unto him out of the cave, the king of Jerusalem, the king of Hebron, the king of Jarmuth, the king of Lachish, the king of Eglon.
Jos 10:24 And it came to pass, when they brought forth those kings unto Joshua, that Joshua called for all the men of Israel, and said unto the chiefs of the men of war that went with him, Come near, put your feet upon the necks of these kings. And they came near, and put their feet upon the necks of them. (Do not allow them to speak)Jos 10:25 And Joshua said unto them, Fear not, nor be dismayed; be strong and of good courage: for thus shall Jehovah do to all your enemies against whom ye fight.

Jos 10:26 And afterward Joshua (Jesus )smote them, and put them to death, and hanged them on five trees(We have been crucified with Christ): and they were hanging upon the trees until the evening.

So , do not allow your senses to guide you. You have 5 "kings" ruling your land. They will tell you what feels good or not. So not trust them, but keep you mouth shut on them, by placing the Word (rocks) in your mouth. So whatever you speak, will not be the opinion or result of the kings (senses) but only what the Bible teaches you.
When they came out, Joshua (Jesus) commanded that the people put their feet on their necks, to keep them from saying anything (If you listen to your feelings or senses ABOVE the Word, you will follow the flesh)

So the five kings were hung upon trees (Cross) and were killed.

This is a parable, for us, how to conquer the flesh and put it to death by the Word only. We cannot rely on anything that that our flesh likes, or what the flesh is afraid of, we have to trust the promises of God, if we want to possess our land and kick the 5 kings out of their cities

I like that, a beautiful way to think about this. Thanks

C


oh, oh, oh! i had to put this one in my file...like you say we
grow into the Word as the Word grows in us.

blessings,
signet

Almonds.

Almonds appear in two forms, wild and cultivated.

Wild almonds are highly toxic and can easily kill a man. They are also classed as a fruit.

Aaron's Rod showed Israel which tribe, (the Levites), were the Priests who oversaw the Law.

Aaron's Rod budded almonds.
The Law is a Law of sin and death.




more on serpents and the sting of death to follow...........

Also: The rod of Aaron.
THe almond is one of the first trees to blossom. Its a "First Fruits that has the rod of rulership " sign as well

I'm not sure if Aaron's rod would be a Prophecy or a Type and shadow actually .

Anyway, the poisonous almonds are exceedingly bitter..


Isa 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter![quote]

A type and shadow is a prophecy in a way, because it points to something that must come.

Vinegar.

Jesus drank vinegar on a reed on the cross immediately before dying.

Vinegar is old wine.

Old wine is the Law.

The Law died with Jesus on the cross.

I am duplicating this post, from somewhere else, because it involves a type and shadow:

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As the enemies of Israel are starting to gather around her in the LETTER. In the physical
So the enemies of spiritual Israel are starting to gather around us as well

It is about LAND. They want to take away the promised LAND
For us, Spiritual Israel, its is about taking away our LAND. Your land where the promises of God rules.

The vineyard, that is what its all about. Satan wants the vineyard. Physical Israel is the sign for the church to show us what is NOW happening to us as well. The freedom of Christianity is being targeted (land)

Here is a type and shadow:Isa 5:7 For the vineyard of Jehovah of hosts is the house of Israel, (Natural and physical)

1Ki 21:1 And it came to pass after these things, that Naboth the Jezreelite had a vineyard, which was in Jezreel, hard by the palace of Ahab king of Samaria.
1Ki 21:2 And Ahab (Type of antichrist) spake unto Naboth, saying, Give me thy vineyard

1Ki 21:8 So she (Jezebel, a type and shadow for the Harlot: religious leaders of our time) wrote letters in Ahab's name (She wrote in the authority of the Beast), and sealed them with his seal, and sent the letters unto the elders (religious leaders)and to the nobles that were in his city, and that dwelt with Naboth.
1Ki 21:9 And she wrote in the letters, saying, Proclaim a fast, and set Naboth on high among the people:
1Ki 21:10 and set two men, base fellows, before him, and let them bear witness against him, saying, Thou didst curse God and the king. And then carry him out, and stone him to death.

So the harlot goes after the VINEYARD (Spiritual Israel), by bearing false witness against Naboth, (Naboth means "fruit" ) So its a double type and shadow: The Harlot comes against those who are bearing fruit (Christ) in the Kingdom of God, so the Beast can take control of the Christian religion and rule over it.The Beast is planning total control over all religions, because they think that it the only way to have peace on this planet.

C

Yes....Jezebel used the writing of LAW and signed Ahab's name......this is a decree like the "covenant made with many" that will bring the teeth of the BEAST upon the people of God.

1Ki 21:8 So she wrote letters in Ahab's name, and sealed them with his seal, and sent the letters unto the elders and to the nobles that were in his city, dwelling with Naboth.
1Ki 21:9 And she wrote in the letters, saying, Proclaim a fast, and set Naboth on high among the people:
1Ki 21:10 And set two men, sons of Belial, before him, to bear witness against him, saying, Thou didst blaspheme God and the king. And then carry him out, and stone him, that he may die.

COMMENTARY: crownsevenalphabet : RE: a l m o n d s

Interesting, when I saw the information about almonds this morning, I remembered that yesterday, I sent the following research to two friends in the Lord, thank you for starting the post about almonds. I will add it to the following research I am working on:


In Atlanta Journal newspaper, Saturday, 11-10-07, was an article dedicated
to the making of new Torah's, requiring handwritten perfect Hebrew letters,
calculating to 304,805, continuance from Genesis 1:1 until Deuteronomy
34:12 . . .
The Sofer (scribe) . . . takes up to a year to hand `draw` each letter, onto specific ordained parchment paper . . . ( THE RODS, that are two wooden rollers, which the Torah is attached are called : Trees of Life )

The message of the article : ONE HEBREW LETTER, at a time

The message last week to me about the Trees of Righteousness, is linked to
the understanding of the Torah Rods, as Trees of Life.

http://bible.cc/isaiah/61-3.htm
King James Bible
To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified.

Here is my message, I am sharing, : " He (Christ) will set the almond rod before Himself on the Throne of God, where the Tree of Life had grown in the Garden of Eden."

My theme (motto) to the "Crown Seven Alphabet's" class, is : " One Crown Letter, until Seven Crown letters reveal, the Tree of Life "

Love,
Betty



R E S E A R C H :

http://www.kolel.org/pages/glossary/E.html
Etz Hayyim (literally, tree of life) the two wooden rollers to which the parchment scroll is attached (Plural: Atzei Hayyim). Also used as a metaphor for the Torah itself (from Prov. 3:18).


http://www.watch.pair.com/rat2.html

THE SECPTER OF AUTHORITY
"When Yeshua returns, He will set up His Throne in Jerusalem (Ezekiel 43:7). At this time, it is thought that the prophet Elijah will return the rod -- a branch from the Tree of Life -- to the Messiah... The Messiah will seat Himself on the Mercy Seat in the Holy of Holies on Mount Moriah. He will replace the Ark that had symbolized Him, in the place where God had first fellowshipped with Adam and Eve, the same place the Divine Presence dwelt among His People! Just as a branch from the Tree of Life was kept before the Ark, He will set the almond rod before Himself on the Throne of God, where the Tree of Life had grown in the Garden of Eden."



http://www.hebrewletters.com/item.cfm?itemid=2572
the tree of life – etz hayyim
“Now Adonai Eloheim planted a garden in the east, in Eden; and there he put the man he had formed. And Adonai Eloheim made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground …In the middle of the garden were the Tree of Life and the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil” (Genesis 2:8-9).

Tradition associates the Tree of Life with the Torah . The liturgy proclaims that the Torah is ”a Tree of Life – etz hayyim – to all who hold fast to it,” and that it represents “eternal life planted in our midst.“ The wooden rods around which the Torah parchment is rolled are called atzei hayyim (trees of life)…The image of the Tree of Life, both as a symbol of as well as of immortality in the World to Come, has long been a favorite decorative motif in synagogues (Frankl, Ellen and Betsy Platkin Teutsch. 1992. The Encyclopedia of Jewish Symbols. Northvale: Aaronson. 181).


http://www.apollo-magazine.com/issue/march...holy-days.thtml

Torah crown

probably Austrian, c. 1825. Gold, silver and gems, ht 17.8 cm.
On loan from the Gilbert Collection, London

Even though this crown was probably made in the early nineteenth century, its style reflects the previous century in its rich use of ornament, gemstones in cluster settings and eagles holding the bells. It is said to have come from the court of Rabbi Israel Ruzhin, a Hassidic leader, who was well-known for his opulent taste. He fled from Ruzhin in Russia (today it is in the Ukraine) to Austria, where the state chancellery granted him asylum in 1842. He may well have commissioned the piece while in Austria. A Torah crown adorns a Torah scroll when cloaked and not in use; it is placed over the Atzei Hayyim (Trees of Life), the staves on which the scroll is bound. Many interpret its use as a reference to the following rabbinic text: ‘Rabbi Shimon says “There are three crowns – the crown of Torah, the crown of royalty, and the crown of the priesthood – and the crown of a good name is above all of them”’ (Pirkei Avot 4:17).


http://www.jerusalemperspective.com/Defaul...;ArticleID=1656

In the time of Jesus Torah scrolls were handleless. There is not one mention in all of rabbinic literature of a Torah scroll being rolled around two wooden rods with handles. Today this is the custom of Ashkenazim, who call these rods atse Hayim (trees of life) on the basis of Proverbs 3:18. Sephardim encase Torah scrolls in special wooden boxes with spindles around which the ends of the scroll are wound. This case, like the handles of the "trees of life," protects the parchment of a scroll from unnecessary handling that shortens the scroll’s life. When reading from the scroll, the case is opened, often being placed upright on the reading stand.

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I don't understand you C7 alphabet.

The Law, if anything, is surely knowledge of good and evil. (the tree of the knowledge of good and evil)



I'm guessing that's why Aaron's rod consumed the magicians rods.

The knowledge of dark arts being greatly surpassed by God's knowledge.


Jesus when he comes will rule with a rod of iron

Iron denotes temporal authority.
The rod of iron would be for the world, but I can't see it being for the saved.

So will the millenial kingdom be the temporal alongside the spiritual?
Heavenly Jerusalem above the earth?
The resurrected to life ascending and descending Jacob's ladder?

ATTENTION SIMPLE:
COMMENTARY VIA : crownsevenalphabet

I listed several web links, to establish the RESEARCH, I am collecting. This statement
is my 100% viewpoint:

Here is my message, I am sharing, : " He (Christ) will set the almond rod before Himself on the Throne of God, where the Tree of Life had grown in the Garden of Eden."

All the above commentary of yours is interesting, however, I do not see my posting matching
any item called rod of iron.

And I am very familiar with Jacob's ladder and can see the connection with Aaron's almond rod.

Thank you for your viewpoint. Please remember, as a researcher I post many viewpoints
from several web links. All of which may or may not be a personal viewpoint.

With love !

The “bride” in the Song of Solomon was a prophetic parable of the sojourning of the Bride today who temporarily lost her submission. (S.of Sol.5:7) The watchmen (ministers) that go about the city found me, They smote me, they wounded me; The keepers of the walls (denominations or sects) took away my mantle (Hebrew: “veil”) from me. The watchmen are identified by the Lord as shepherds (Hebrew: “pastors”) in Isaiah 56:10‑12. These pastors, in trying to keep the Bride within their sectarian walls, smote her and took away her veil, which is also a sign of submission to her husband, the Lord. (1 Cor.11:3)…The head of the woman is the man… (5) But every woman praying or prophesying with her head unveiled dishonoreth her head …(10) for this cause ought the woman to have [a sign of] authority on her head…(13) Judge ye in yourselves: is it seemly that a woman pray unto God unveiled? False shepherds have made the people of God submissive to religions rather than Christ.

In a true type to our day, the Bride in vain sought her beloved first in the broad ways of Babylonish religion. (S.of Sol.3:2) [I said], I will rise now, and go about the city (Babylon); In the streets and in the broad ways I will seek him whom my soul loveth: I sought him, but I found him not. She sought Him from the false shepherds whose loyalty was to themselves and their own kingdom. (3) The watchmen that go about the city found me; [To whom I said], Saw ye him whom my soul loveth? It was not until she was delivered from them that she found the one whom her soul sought. (4) It was but a little that I passed from them, When I found him whom my soul loveth: I held him, and would not let him go, (In her excitement she wanted to share Him with those among whom she was first conceived and birthed.) Until I had brought him into my mother’s house, And into the chamber of her that conceived me. The other daughters of that corporate mother did not share her excitement for her peculiar beloved. (5:9) What is thy beloved more than [another] beloved, O thou fairest among women? What is thy beloved more than [another] beloved, That thou dost so adjure us ? Because of her not being content with “another Jesus,” she was not defiled with the religions of these other daughters and was chosen by her Lord. (6:9) My dove, my undefiled, is [but] one; She is the only one of her mother; She is the choice one of her that bare her. The daughters saw her, and called her blessed. She regained her dominion when she became undefiled with the women representing the false religious systems. Those who bear fruit will walk in the holiness of her steps, not being defiled with the seed (word) of the men, for they are spiritual virgins. (Rev.14:4) These are they that were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These [are] they that follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were purchased from among men, [to be] the firstfruits unto God and unto the Lamb. The sects of Christianity have become defiled with what Paul warned in 2 Corinthians 11:4, “Another Jesus, whom we did not preach, or [if] ye receive a different spirit, which ye did not receive, or a different Gospel, which ye did not accept.” (2 Cor.6:17) Wherefore Come ye out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, And touch no unclean thing; And I will receive you. Only the Word is the truth that sets free. (2 Cor.7:1) Having therefore these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all defilement of flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.


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At the bottom of this hill, I got out of the car. I sensed that I had many enemies. (The more we humble ourselves to God's Word the more enemies we will have, both in the carnal church and the world, just as our Lord.) Then I found hidden under a bush some tools like hammers, screwdrivers, and wrenches, which were drenched in oil. (The burning bush is where Moses received authority to deliver God’s people from bondage. Tools bind and loose, as does God’s authority given to His disciples (Mt.18:18). The promises of the Word are the binding and loosing keys to the kingdom of God that were given to disciples. The oil signifies the power of the Holy Spirit. In other words, if we stay in the straight and narrow way, we will receive authority to bind and loose for God.) From there, I turned to the right (The sheep are set on the right [Mt.25:33]) and went up a steep mountain. (Going down the first mountain entitles us to go up the next. Being humbled in the estimation of the world makes us great in the estimation of the kingdom. The last shall be first and the least shall be greatest. (Isa.40:3)…Prepare ye in the wilderness the way of the Lord …(4) Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low …. The way of the Lord is that those who are humble in the world shall be promoted on God’s mountain, but those who are exalted in the worldly mountain will have to come down.) (Jas.4:10) Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall exalt you.

note:
Have you reviewed this prophecy, I was given ? I feel the above excerpt may be linked to this message. Thank you for your commentary.
. . . ( sharing a prophecy message, 8-21-2003 )
. . . Tell Betty to continue on her path. She has been chosen and
she will know when the grass on the mound begins it's decent. . .
http://templemount2008.blogspot.com/

This is a type and pattern that will be done away with by the great tribulation. That is the carrier of the money belt. The ones who trust in The images of Cesar and say it is from God. That God has left a blessing. But the true gospel went on without any need for the money belt. Feeding thousands with faith and teaching the same. But this type even though they walked with the Truth they could not hear the truth or see the Light or know the Light because the Light that was in them was darkness. And in the end not even thirty pieces of silver could buy eyes to see or ears to hear.

11 And the merchants of the earth will weep and mourn over her, for no one buys their merchandise anymore:
12 merchandise of gold and silver, precious stones and pearls, fine linen and purple, silk and scarlet, every kind of citron wood, every kind of object of ivory, every kind of object of most precious wood, bronze, iron, and marble;
13 and cinnamon and incense, fragrant oil and frankincense, wine and oil, fine flour and wheat, cattle and sheep, horses and chariots, and bodies and souls of men.
14 The fruit that your soul longed for has gone from you, and all the things which are rich and splendid have gone from you, and you shall find them no more at all.
15 The merchants of these things, who became rich by her, will stand at a distance for fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,
16 and saying, 'Alas, alas, that great city that was clothed in fine linen, purple, and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls!
17 For in one hour such great riches came to nothing.' Every shipmaster, all who travel by ship, sailors, and as many as trade on the sea, stood at a distance
18 and cried out when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, 'What is like this great city?'
19 They threw dust on their heads and cried out, weeping and wailing, and saying, 'Alas, alas, that great city, in which all who had ships on the sea became rich by her wealth! For in one hour she is made desolate.'


20 Rejoice over her, O heaven, and you holy apostles and prophets, for God has avenged you on her!"

21 Then a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone and threw it into the sea, saying, "Thus with violence the great city Babylon shall be thrown down, and shall not be found anymore.

Here is another good type and shadow for Jesus in the OT.
In the story of Jonah:

You all know the story, so I am going to just take some bit out, so its not too long.

Remember that types and shadows does not always fit according to our understanding. For instance Jonah is unwilling, but Jesus was willing. So do not look for a "perfect match" according to our understanding. This story has OTHER types and shadows as well, so we are only going to look at some of those that points to Jesus:

SO: Where did Jesus come from?

Jon 1:3 But Jonah rose up to flee unto Tarshish from the presence of Jehovah; and he went down to Joppa, and found a ship going to Tarshish: so he paid the fare thereof, and went down into it, to go with them unto Tarshish from the presence of Jehovah.

The ship and crew and passengers is a picture of mankind in need of salvation:

Jon 1:4 But Jehovah sent out a great wind upon the sea, and there was a mighty tempest on the sea, so that the ship was like to be broken.
Jon 1:5 Then the mariners were afraid, and cried every man unto his god; and they cast forth the wares that were in the ship into the sea, to lighten it unto them. But Jonah was gone down into the innermost parts of the ship; and he lay, and was fast asleep.

Mat 8:24 And behold, there arose a great tempest in the sea, insomuch that the boat was covered with the waves: but he (Jesus) was asleep.

Jon 1:7 And they said every one to his fellow, Come, and let us cast lots, that we may know for whose cause this evil is upon us. So they cast lots, and the lot fell upon Jonah.

Lev 16:8 And Aaron shall cast lots upon the two goats; one lot for Jehovah, and the other lot for Azazel.
Lev 16:9 And Aaron shall present the goat upon which the lot fell for Jehovah, and offer him for a sin-offering

So here: What must be done to Jesus, so that WE can go free:
Jon 1:11 Then said they unto him, What shall we do unto thee, that the sea may be calm unto us? for the sea grew more and more tempestuous.


Jon 1:12 And he said unto them, Take me up, and cast me forth into the sea; so shall the sea be calm unto you: for I know that for my sake this great tempest is upon you.

Joh 8:28 Jesus therefore said, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself, but as the Father taught me, I speak these things.

Joh 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up;

Jon 1:14 Wherefore they cried unto Jehovah, and said, We beseech thee, O Jehovah, we beseech thee, let us not perish for this man's life, and lay not upon us innocent blood; for thou, O Jehovah, hast done as it pleased thee.

So God heard the prayer and Jesus died and in stead of death: LIFE came, through the shedding of His innocent blood.

Jon 1:15 So they took up Jonah, and cast him forth into the sea; and the sea ceased from its raging.

The debt was paid and now we have peace with God.


Jon 1:17 And Jehovah prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah; and Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.


Jon 2:1 Then Jonah prayed unto Jehovah his God out of the fish's belly.
Jon 2:2 And he said, I called by reason of mine affliction unto Jehovah, And he answered me; Out of the belly of Sheol cried I, And thou heardest my voice.

So Sheol is the place of the dead. Jonah prayed from out of the dead.

Jon 2:4 And I said, I am cast out from before thine eyes; Yet I will look again toward thy holy temple. Faith, speaking here

Jon 2:6 I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; The earth with its bars closed upon me for ever: Yet hast thou brought up my life from the pit, O Jehovah my God.
Who can see that Jonah was really dead and was resurrected?

Jon 2:9 But I will sacrifice unto thee with the voice of thanksgiving; I will pay that which I have vowed. Salvation is of Jehovah.
Jon 2:10 And Jehovah spake unto the fish, and it vomited out Jonah upon the dry land.

Mat 12:40 for as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the whale; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

C

Good word C

I had never noticed that before but shure enough it is true. Praise The Lord, He is amazing.

Hi GL,

I also only saw all this , this morning, although last night, the Lord started showing me a bit about Jonah.
C

NO! Jonah does not represent Jesus C.

Jonah is a self-righteous, obstinate, pig-headed, deplorable man in some ways.

He is STIFFNECKED in the extreme.

Please don't misunderstand this, or use it as a stick to beat God's chosen people, but he represents the Jews.

Simple, its true, even Jesus said so Himself.
Remember in the beginning of the post, I told you that types and shadows are not always perfect matches for the type they represent.

Here is Jesus saying that Jonah is a type and shadow for Himself:Mat 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given it but the sign of Jonah the prophet:
Mat 12:40 for as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the whale; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
See? as Jonah (type and shadow) so shall the Son of man.

I agree that in the rest of the story old Jonah gives rather a sad picture of character. Complaining and being selfish , but God made him into a type and shadow never the less.

God uses the ungodly also sometimes for a type and shadow for Himself.

One instance is Pharaoh in the story of Joseph. Pharaoh, (an unsaved heathen) is a type and shadow for God here.

Also in the story of Esther, the heathen King, is the type and shadow for Jesus. Eshter is the bride and the king is Jesus.

in Christ
C

True C, but its also quite a dense allegory about the Jewish people.

Simple, yes, the Word is alive and in all of the Bible stories you will find more that one type and shadow. Actually God can use one chapter and tell you so many things through it, you will never have believed it is possible.
C

Yes...but even MORE powerful is the type in Esther of Spiritual Israel. Esther= the Bride Mordechai= The First Fruits Haman= the Beast ..King Ahasuerus= God Haggai= the Holy Spirit and on and on....packed full.

Well, BroJon, we should look more fully at that.

I will give from my side what I get I will post some tomorrow , I have been on here all day.

C

C'mon then, don't keep us in suspense!

OK Esther

Again I will just break it down, (meaning, I will not quote the whole of Esther)
Please add some that you guys and girls are seeing as well .

Est 1:2 that in those days, when the king Ahasuerus sat on the throne of his kingdom, which was in Shushan the palace,
Est 1:3 in the third year of his reign, he made a feast unto all his princes and his servants; the power of Persia and Media, the nobles and princes of the provinces, being before him;

Now there are links between these two passages:Both oare feasts and both have people that do not want to come to the feast and both have other people invited in a manner of speaking.
The Queen Vashti would not come to the Kings feast and Israel did not want to come to God's marriage feast.



So here is a picture that Jesus gave of Israel not wanting to come to the wedding feast, the Groom was ready and they said : No, we have other things to do. Then God sent out a call to the Gentiles and called THEM to the feast.


Now look at Ester. Queen Vashti plays the role of unwilling Israel here: Est 1:12 But the queen Vashti refused to come at the king's commandment by the chamberlains: therefore was the king very wroth, and his anger burned in him.

So Israel is not coming .Est 1:19 If it please the king, let there go forth a royal commandment from him, and let it be written among the laws of the Persians and the Medes, that it be not altered, that Vashti come no more before king Ahasuerus; and let the king give her royal estate unto another that is better than she.

Now Esther comes as the new Bride. She plays the role of the Bride in the church.

Est 2:2 Then said the king's servants that ministered unto him, Let there be fair young virgins ( a virgin in the Bible is a code word for "those who only receive the WORD of God as Seed) sought for the king:
Est 2:3 and let the king appoint officers in all the provinces of his kingdom, that they may gather together all the fair young virgins unto Shushan the palace, to the house of the women, unto the custody of Hegai the king's chamberlain, keeper of the women; and let their things for purification be given them;
Est 2:4 and let the maiden that pleaseth the king be queen instead of Vashti. And the thing pleased the king; and he did so.

Hegai plays the role of the Holy Spirit here: He looks after the woman (churches) and provides the "things for purification"

Rev 21:2 And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband. Rev 19:8 And it was given unto her that she should array herself in fine linen, bright and pure: for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints.

Est 2:12 Now when the turn of every maiden was come to go in to king Ahasuerus, after that it had been done to her according to the law for the women twelve months (for so were the days of their purifications accomplished, to wit, six months with oil of myrrh, and six months with sweet odors and with the things for the purifying of the women),

Est 2:15 Now when the turn of Esther, the daughter of Abihail the uncle of Mordecai, who had taken her for his daughter, was come to go in unto the king, she required nothing but what Hegai the king's chamberlain, the keeper of the women, appointed. And Esther obtained favor in the sight of all them that looked upon her.

The Bride only takes that which the Holy Spirit gives and nothing else. She knows that God requires nothing more from us.

more later........
I am not doing Mordecai at the moment, I just first wants to look at the bride

Later the plot thickens , when the Beast enters and declares war on the Bride and he people.........

Before we continue with Esther, I am posting this . I posted it somewhere else, but it also fits into types and shadows:


God uses cities to explain bigger things. He uses Jerusalem as a "code" for righteousness and holiness.
He uses Babylon for a code for: Unrighteousness.

Also important is the CONTEXT where God places these "types" into, it influences the emphasis or situation of the "city" or "person" Sometimes God brings more than one type together, so the picture changes, when both characters add their characteristics to each other. (The Beast+ Harlot + False Prophet= the system)

Then the Beast turns on the Harlot = System turns even onto false religion.

So instead of saying " All my people who are called by My Name, who serve me, who honours My Word, who are washed by My blood, who have died to self and followed the Lamb by taking up their cross , who are truly my disciples because they show their love through obedience to My Word " ......He just says: JERUSALEM

Or instead of saying : " All the world outside of My people who are called of My Name, those who do not die to self, those who do not believe Christ is cometh in the flesh, all those who serve their flesh and do evil in My eyes" He just says" BABYLON

Instead of saying: " All those who only listen to My Word and only allow the Seed (Christ) to fall into their "soil" and produce Christ , all those who do not listen to men and the traditions of men. All those who honor My Word alone" He says" VIRGIN

Instead of saying" All those who call themselves by My Name , YET mix the SEED of My Word with the seed of men and teach my people to do the same" He calls the HARLOT

Instead of saying: " All those who serve the flesh, the beast within. All those who come against my people in the end of time and want to make the flesh rule over the spirit. " He calls the BEAST

etc etc
So now its easier : God then uses these NAMES and tell us a story with them as the main characters. When we know the code, we understand the richness of the parable and we can gain understanding.

The book of Esther is one of my favorite hidden parables in all of scripture. PLEASE take your time and write out what you can....this is invaluable for the end times "church". This proves that God is sovereign over all things and He has layered these great truths in the lives of those who lived so long ago. Amazing!

Oh boy There is so much in Esther ! Its a whole parable of Revelation. Its rather amazing !!
C

Get busy!!!

OK, I must include Mordecai now or it will not make sense. SO for those who do not believe in the "man child" of Rev 12, just bear with me and if you do not agree, just put it away somewhere.

Mordecai in Hebrew means " little man" and in Arabic "little boy' so he is the type and shadow for the "man child" in Rev 12.

He looks after Esther who is an orphan, she has not mother or father (she represents those who have "come out of her" , thus no mother or father )Est 2:7 And he brought up Hadassah, that is, Esther, his uncle's daughter: for she had neither father nor mother

Est 2:8 So it came to pass, when the king's commandment and his decree was heard, and when many maidens were gathered together unto Shushan the palace, to the custody of Hegai (The Holy Spirit), that Esther was taken into the king's house, to the custody of Hegai, keeper of the women.
Est 2:9 And the maiden pleased him, and she obtained kindness of him; and he speedily gave her her things for purification, with her portions, and the seven maidens (seven churches) who were meet to be given her out of the king's house: and he removed her and her maidens to the best place of the house of the women.

Now here is the Scripture that relates to "that what HAS been given " THIS is what the Holy Spirit (Hegai) has given to the bride (Esther) 2Pe 1:2 Grace to you and peace be multiplied in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord;
2Pe 1:3 seeing that his divine power hath granted unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness,[b] through the knowledge of him that called us by his own glory and virtue;
2Pe 1:4 whereby he hath granted unto us his precious and exceeding great promises; that through these ye may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped from the corruption that is in that world by lust. [/b]

more to follow............

Est 2:21 In those days, while Mordecai was sitting in the king's gate, two of the king's chamberlains, Bigthan and Teresh, of those that kept the threshold, were wroth, and sought to lay hands on the king Ahasuerus.

This is a place of authority. Gen 22:17 that in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heavens, and as the sand which is upon the seashore. And thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies.

Exo 32:26 then Moses (another man child type) stood in the gate of the camp, and said, Whoso is on Jehovah's side, let him come unto me. And all the sons of Levi gathered themselves together unto him.

Now enters Haman, who is a type and shadow of the BEAST. Notice Who puts the BEAST in power:

Est 3:1 After these things did king Ahasuerus promote Haman the son of Hammedatha the Agagite, and advanced him, and set his seat above all the princes that were with him.
Est 3:2 And all the king's servants, that were in the king's gate, bowed down, and did reverence to Haman; for the king had so commanded concerning him. But Mordecai bowed not down, nor did him reverence.

Haman was royalty, he came from the family of king Agag, whom Saul was supposed to have destroyed but Saul spared Agag and the best of the cattle and sheep (Type and shadow for "destroying the flesh in all of our "land" (body) but do not allow anything to live......like Saul did. This cost Saul his place in the Kingdom )

1Sa 15:7 And Saul smote the Amalekites, from Havilah as thou goest to Shur, that is before Egypt.
1Sa 15:8 And he took Agag the king of the Amalekites alive, and utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword.
1Sa 15:9 But Saul and the people spared Agag, and the best of the sheep, and of the oxen, and of the fatlings, and the lambs, and all that was good, and would not utterly destroy them: but everything that was vile and refuse, that they destroyed utterly. (Bad move, to ignore the Word of God)


So Haman is now in charge (the Beast) and was put there by the King (God)

Its really going to irk the Beast, when the man child do not bow down to him:

Est 3:5 And when Haman saw that Mordecai bowed not down, nor did him reverence, then was Haman full of wrath.

So the Beast found out about the "people of Mordecai" (Christians) and sought to destroy ALL of the Christians .(represented here by the Jews)

Est 3:6 But he thought scorn to lay hands on Mordecai alone; for they had made known to him the people of Mordecai: wherefore Haman sought to destroy all the Jews that were throughout the whole kingdom of Ahasuerus, even the people of Mordecai.

Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and there was given to him authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation.

(This scripture -above- actually fits a bit later into the Esther puzzle )

Next we see Haman as the accuser of the brethren, going before the King (God) Remember that Satan , the accuser is operating through the Beast.

Est 3:8 And Haman said unto king Ahasuerus, There is a certain people (Christians)scattered abroad and dispersed among the peoples in all the provinces of thy kingdom;(they are all over the world ) and their laws are diverse from those of every people; (Christians do not follow after the laws of the rest of the world) neither keep they the king's laws: (Actually this is very true, the church is not following the Word, but have gone into the doctrines of men) therefore it is not for the king's profit to suffer them.

Est 3:9 If it please the king, let it be written that they be destroyed: and I will pay ten thousand talents of silver into the hands of those that have the charge of the king's business(Christians are in charge of the King's business, so Christians are going to betray Christians) for money), to bring it into the king's treasuries.

Who else were delivered by silver.? Joseph and Jesus .


Est 3:10 And the king took his ring from his hand (authority[/i]), and gave it unto Haman the son of Hammedatha the Agagite, the Jews' enemy.
Est 3:11 And the king said unto Haman, The silver is given to thee, the people also, to do with them as it seemeth good to thee.

Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and there was given to him authority ([i]The ring of the King)over every tribe and people and tongue and nation.


Est 3:12 Then were the king's scribes called in the first month, on the thirteenth day thereof; and there was written according to all that Haman commanded unto the king's satraps, and to the governors that were over every province, and to the princes of every people, to every province according to the writing thereof, and to every people after their language; in the name of king Ahasuerus was it written, and it was sealed with the king's ring. Est 3:13 And letters were sent by posts into all the king's provinces, to destroy, to slay, and to cause to perish, all Jews, both young and old, little children and women, in one day, even upon the thirteenth day of the twelfth month, which is the month Adar, and to take the spoil of them for a prey.
Est 3:14 A copy of the writing, that the decree should be given out in every province, was published unto all the peoples, that they should be ready against that day.

This means its going to be a world-wide persecution of ALL CHRISTIANS. God is giving this authority to the Beast. Why? Because we have to come against the beast by faith. As we will see, the Beast can only come as close to you as you will allow him to come. You can stop him at any time through faith.

more later...............

Thanks for the study. I can see those parallels you are bringing out C.

C, you say,

'I told you that types and shadows are not always perfect matches for the type they represent. '

So by the same token would you say that 'good guys' can be used to represent 'bad guys'?

Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Rev 13:9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.
Rev 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.



so, the saints will be overcome by satan, and they will be killed by the sword, and this is the faith of the saints

how can these "saints" be defective saints?
they have faith..........and patience

patience is one of the fruits of the HOLY SPIRIT


Rev 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
Rev 6:10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
Rev 6:11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.


THESE SAINTS WERE RIGHTEOUS........they have white robes.........and they were killed "for the word of God"


are these saints like us?
or are they different?
are they trib-saints?........a different kind from us?
are they Jews Only, who convert to Christ during the Trib?
where is the Church (Bride)?
the OT Saints were saints, yet they were different from us NT Saints.

the Kingdom of GOD appeared (started) when Christ made His FIRST ADVENT.

Mat 11:11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.


so, the LITTLEST Christian (NT believer, before the Trib) is GREATER than the GREATEST OT Saint?

and the trib-saints (who convert in the Trib) are LITTLER than NT Saints (in our dispensation)?

the trib is a different dispensation from the Church Age?
and operates under different rules?

when does this dispensation end?

why is it the time of JACOB'S TROUBLE? (not the time of the Church's trouble?)
why is it not the time of ISRAEL'S TROUBLE?

I have never thought about that, nor does any jump to mind. Do you have an example?
I do know however that bad guys sometimes represents good. Like we see in the King = God
And Pharaoh also being God in the story of Joseph.

C

What I mean is : In one type and shadow, Joseph is JESUS, all the way into the PIT, where He preached to the souls of the dead. In type, some of the dead lived, and some died: Gen 40:20 And it came to pass the third day, which was Pharaoh's birthday, that he made a feast unto all his servants: and he lifted up the head of the chief butler and the head of the chief baker among his servants. (We know the baker died)

But this has the tree days type and shadow and now it leaves this pattern and now Joseph is left in prison (whereas Jesus came out of the grave after three days)

Gen 40:23 Yet did not...................remember Joseph, but forgat him
In a way that is what the church has done with the real Jesus as well. They have forgotten the true gospel

but now we see something else:Gen 41:1 And it came to pass at the end of two full years, that Pharaoh dreamed: and, behold, he stood by the river.
Gen 41:2 And, behold, there came up out of the river seven kine, well-favored and fat-fleshed; and they fed in the reed-grass.
Gen 41:3 And, behold, seven other kine came up after them out of the river, ill-favored and lean-fleshed, and stood by the other kine upon the brink of the river.
Gen 41:4 And the ill-favored and lean-fleshed kine did eat up the seven well-favored and fat kine. So Pharaoh awoke.

Then Joseph gets called again: After 2 years . Its a type and shadow for 2000 years.

So watch, after 2000 years the seven fat years is first and then seven lean years (tribulation)
Well , that is where we are now.

This will link with two types : The man child, and the return of Jesus. I am not going to do it now, but Joseph is also a perfect type for the man child: We see him being sold by his "brothers" (fellow Christians)
Now Potiphar is the beast and his wife is the harlot. The Harlot goes after the man child ....................but what happens later: Joseph gets promoted to second in the Kingdom, stores up the grain (Word) and feeds the people of God.

We see this again in Revelation 12: Rev 12:14 And there were given to the woman (people of God) the two wings of the great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness unto her place, where she is nourished (Joseph feeding the people of God) for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

Well, yes!

Now we get controversial...........

I am trying to find the shallow end here.
What about.




Since Pharaoh is a type of Satan, what does it mean to make Moses one of Satan's Gods?

NO, the opposite. God is saying that He is making Moses like Himself.

Exo 7:1 And Jehovah said unto Moses, See, I have made thee as God to Pharaoh; and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.
Exo 7:2 Thou shalt speak all that I command thee; (ONLY THE WORD) and Aaron thy brother shall speak unto Pharaoh, that he let the children of Israel go out of his land.

You have God speaking to Moses, making Moses as "God" and then Moses is speaking as "God" to Aaron , who then as Moses, speaks to Pharaoh (Satan)

I am not sure.

My bible says:



Eloyim can refer to pagan gods.






Not sure where we go on this one.

Here I have another type; I do believe that the Rapture will take place just before the 7-year Tribulation, that what will be used to... start counting 1,260 days + another 1,260 days + 75 additional days according to Daniel... Otherwise, why all the counting... if you don't have a day to start counting from?? Why such a precision... UNLESS you will be able to count [from the Rapture]???

Everytime I think of the Rapture, the same picture comes to my mind: when I was 10, I went with my class and my teacher to ski in the Alps. We lived for 30 days in a huge wooden logde/hotel with huge tables, rows of washbasins and bunk beds...

Just across from the hotel, there was a ski lift to take us up the mountain. This was an old ski lift, squeaking, jolting, jumping, rusty, antiquated, with just a rod to grab and just big enough to place one buttock (what's funny is that in French we call "ski lift" TIRE-FESSE which litterally means "pull [one] buttock", I mean, you could barely place your behind on it. You had to grab that thing hard because it would start/jump with a jolt.

I was a daydreamer. In France, we speak of daydreaming as "being in the moon" (etre dans la lune)
So here I was, waiting for my turn, but I would miss it all the time, I would WATCH as my chair would go up the slope, empty. What an embarrassment in front of all the other people waiting! I then had to wait my turn for the next seat available, but generally, by the time I was up the mountain, my class had already gone down...

It's just like the Rapture: you have to be VIGILANT, you have TO WATCH, otherwise it will come and you will be left behind.
Snow = purity, redemption
Mountain = sacred place, Heaven, God
Ski lift = Rapture
People waiting their turn = end of Tribulation, "gleanings"
Long wait = Tribulation
Embarrassment = some of the one who said they would be taken will be left behind..

2Cr 5:3 If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.

Rev 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed [is] he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
etc...

What is strange, is that this department was called SAVOIE, and that "SAVOIE" rings like "ca voit" (it sees), "Sa voix" (His (Jesus') voice), "Sa voie" (His (Jesus') path/way)!

It also almost rings like "SAVOIR" ... KNOWLEDGE!

Plus Jesus' number is (if A = 1, B = 2, C = 3) = 74

Haute-Savoie (HIGH Savoie is France Department 74!!!
(Basse-Savoie (LOWER Savoie is France Department 73)

That year was 1970... like '70, the Seventieth Week of Daniel!