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PROOF POSITIVE LURKS, how MANY MORE clues do we need?

OUT OF THE MANY ‘ONE’

Unbeknown to many, on October 6, 2007 we were made aware of ‘E Pluribus Unum’ or ‘Out of many 'the one’, because six days before the ‘Nobel Peace’ prize winner was announced, a WWWeb prediction; forecast the ‘revealing’ of the ‘biblical antichrist’ on October 12, 2007.

It disregarded any ‘Nobel’ involvement, stating that Daniel’s biblical ‘vision’ of 2300 days, demanded ‘day 1935’ reveal him!

Although to some the above may sound a little ‘out there’, picking a Nobel Peace prize, winner out of over 130 Nobel candidates is not easy because all entrants are kept in secret but still to the casual observer 'so what', BUT WHAT THEY MISSED "he comes out of many"!

However this web forecast was different, in that this prediction GAVE FOUR PROPHETIC BIBLICAL ‘reference checkpoints’ for verification as to positive identification for those with Biblical inclinations.

TOOLS needed were a ‘time and date’ calculator, a Bible and Webster’s Dictionary.

IT SAID:

IF the anti messiah is revealed on October 12th or at some future date HERE IS YOUR SCRIPTURAL PROOF;

A. From Revelation 13:18 and 19:20 The anti messiah IS A MAN (6) and HIS DAYS ARE NUMBERED, he will be 60 years and 6 months old, a type of 666, when he is thrown into the “lake of fire” on September 30, 2008

B. From Daniel 8:9 His name means: 1) blood, 2) pierce as with a HORN, 3) a triangular segment, in Daniel 8:9 it says “And out of one of them came forth a ‘little horn’…. http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary

C. From Daniel 11:21b… “ He shall COME IN ‘PEACEABLLY and obtain the kingdom with flatteries” this will most likely be more of an ‘acclamation of title’

D. From Daniel 11:21a… And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honor of the kingdom: and Revelation17:11 He is a beast or man “THAT WAS” something, then “IS NOT” something and will become the “eighth” albeit short lived world leader.

THE ENVIRO CHRIST SAVES

Click <go> button under the “Enviro Christ saves” picture at this link http://www.breakfornews.com:80/ and WATCH 4 ‘short’ videos starting with Hillary’s http://pundits.thehill.com/2007/09/21/if-a...el-peace-prize/

More on the “G” man http://www.theitem.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artic...NTERT/710190062

GOD FULFILLS HIS WILL WITH LAST 10 PRESIDENTS REVELATION 17:16-17

These Presidents, incrementally through loans, sale of weapons, armaments and aircraft, along with multiple ‘false peace’ treaties put the US in position to announce the ‘Roadmap to Peace’ on June 24, 2002.

It would become the “abomination of devastation” with its multiple terrorist bombings, Gush Katif’s “disengagement plan” that cleared out the IDF soldiers in Gaza and brought about the rise of Hezbollah, Hamas, Syria and Iran into the regional conflict.

Gaza became a ‘terrorist cesspool’, bringing about the ‘34 day’ war of July-August 2006, putting the nation of Israel, God’s land, into the political disarray it is in today.

This ‘Roadmap to Peace’ in actuality was announced on June 24, 2002 so the recently revealed one can ‘divide’ God’s land. Daniel 11:39c… “ Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, (Ceres/mother earth) whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and SHALL DIVIDE THE LAND for gain”.

A PEACEFUL UN MOTHER EARTH PLAN

From the moment the ‘Nobel Peace’ prize award was announced on October 12, 2007, the day “he came in peaceably obtaining the kingdom by flatteries”, Daniel 11:21, Al Gore, unbeknownst to many, along with his UN world panel of scientists, became a living force of ‘global’ debate.

The ‘Mother earth’ environmental or god of forces movement, Daniel 11:38-39, will become the most influential in defining terms of global law.

Gore, whom they “did not give the honor of the kingdom”, Daniel 11:21, in the 2000 election” became the “was” elected President and “is not” President of Revelation 17:11.

On December 10, 2007 he will be ‘crowned’ at a gala ceremony in Oslo Norway, where he will accept his ‘prize’ and give his ‘acceptance’ speech!

On the next day, the Nobel Peace Prize Concert will be held, Gore invited Etheridge to perform, she won an Academy Award this year for the song "I need to wake up," featured in Gore's environmental documentary "An Inconvenient Truth." Etheridge recently released her ninth studio album, "The Awakening."

BEHOLD THE BEAST

They will then “behold the beast that was President and is not President and yet is the “eighth”, Revelation 17:8d…. What we have to remember the ‘fifth seal’ will be in full swing on December 10th and just as the “concentration camps” of the 40’s were filling up, the large Christian community, turned its back, as their lives went unhindered in the earlier days of the holocaust!

There is nothing new under the sun, while the ‘concentration camps’ are reaching capacity in November, so the ‘marking’ can go on in December, the world will ‘behold the beast’ right on time as the ‘fifth seal’ tries and tests us!

While people are casually making merry and sending gifts to each other while the ‘two witnesses’ lay in the street on December 25, 2007, Revelation 11:8-11, things outside the ‘concentration camps’ here in the US some 50 days after our cities and leader falls, seem to have some ‘normalcy’ although it may be in pockets.

After saying all this, will December 10th, present an opportunity for a ‘greater revealing’? Will his miracle making ‘false prophet’ show up as they wait till the “two witnesses” arise before they kick start their final 305 day reign of terror!

I remain firm that Daniel 8's '2300 day vision' will end on Yom Kippur, October 9, 2008!

Giving Him the glory an Ezekiel 33:6 watching one REPENT the Kingdom of God is at hand make your election SURE

We are watching your dating. Your presentation is relatively clever on the surface, but actually full of holes. Your predictions and date setting will turn out to be false as you have presented them. You are misinterpreting the scriptures for the purpose of supporting your prophecy. You might want to re-evaluate what you are doing.

oct 29th approaches and gav screams louder and louder.......tick tock.....is he a prophet or a false prophet....if oct 29th comes and goes and we are all still here, I ask, "who gave Gav this timeline?"....

It seems to me that you overstate what Gavriel is doing. He is NOT 'prophesying,' nor telling us to serve false gods. He is interpreting Scriptures through lenses which seem appropriate to him at this time. Many did so also when they predicted the anti-Christ was going to be 'this or that' historical figure. This did not make them 'false prophets.' It merely meant they were incorrect. And incorrect NOT in matters relating to our salvation, or affecting doctrines of our Blessed Atonement, but only in secondary, or tertiary matters. Calmness is called for, and not strident accusation.

Father Onesimus on Oct 26, 200t at 12:34 PM in post 126290 as a 'voice of reason' calling in the forum said,

It seems to me that you overstate what Gavriel is doing. He is NOT 'prophesying,' nor telling us to serve false gods. He is interpreting Scriptures through lenses which seem appropriate to him at this time. Many did so also when they predicted the anti-Christ was going to be 'this or that' historical figure. This did not make them 'false prophets.' It merely meant they were incorrect. And incorrect NOT in matters relating to our salvation, or affecting doctrines of our Blessed Atonement, but only in secondary, or tertiary matters. Calmness is called for, and not strident accusation.

FO,

You are correct, Deuteronomy 13:6-9 is very clear on what a false prophet is, I have made SEVERAL DATES as days to watch, or said something could or would happen and IT DIDN'T.

What I have said since 'day one' ON THIS FORUM is September 29/30 is the RETURN OF YESHUA.

Any date given since 'day one' has been given with 9-30-08 in mind.

I, like all, through this journey, especially before 11-14-06 saw through a 'glass darkly' and missed and will miss but THIS I STATE CLEARLY.

The 'antichrist' HAS BEEN REVEALED, they are escalating the 'dividing of God's land talks' SUDDEN DESTRUCTION is right at the door!

FO, thank you for your 'encouragement' I KNOW, "Scoffers heads are raised" The 'truth cuts as a 2 edged sword'.

Holding on to so called 'SOFT LIES' obscures that seventh verse from THE END of God's word, Revelation 22:15, tells us the 'liars' can dote or are made foolish and have become as fools!

Even causing some to WANT TO BAN what a 'non commissioned' or in disagreement with the 70s and 80s prohecy 'guru' teachers said! Under 'strong delusion ' they say to themselves 'LOVE THE LIE GAV' we want you to go with us.

Are we listening? Heed the leading of the Ruach Ha Kodesh, God's Holy Spirit!

The more they 'scoff' the more I praise Him and His word, thank you TO

Giving Him the glory gavrial

there is no way to defend what gav is doing...he himself says he clearly states that Jesus is coming back, Sept 30th 2008...he says that it is fact that al gore is the anti christ...he also repeats the line that anyone that doesnt believe his time line (the true one as he calls it) is following a lie...he does not deny these things...he doesnt need anyone defending what he is plainly saying...the fact is, either gav is right and everyone else is wrong (i dont think gav has revealed to us yet why he alone was chosen to know this true time line) or gav is wrong...now if he is wrong, what is he wrong about? he clearly says that it is fact that sept 30, 2008 is the second coming...he has plainly said that oct 29th will be huge (day of the Lord) because it has to be on this true timeline. ...if you say these are facts and they turn out not to be ....what are you?

Father Onesimus on Oct 26, 200t at 12:34 PM in post 126290 as a 'voice of reason' calling in the forum said,

It seems to me that you overstate what Gavriel is doing. He is NOT 'prophesying,' nor telling us to serve false gods. He is interpreting Scriptures through lenses which seem appropriate to him at this time. Many did so also when they predicted the anti-Christ was going to be 'this or that' historical figure. This did not make them 'false prophets.' It merely meant they were incorrect. And incorrect NOT in matters relating to our salvation, or affecting doctrines of our Blessed Atonement, but only in secondary, or tertiary matters. Calmness is called for, and not strident accusation.

FO,

You are correct, Deuteronomy 13:6-9 is very clear on what a false prophet is, I have made SEVERAL DATES as days to watch, or said something could or would happen and IT DIDN'T.

What I have said since 'day one' ON THIS FORUM is September 29/30 is the RETURN OF YESHUA.

Any date given since 'day one' has been given with 9-30-08 in mind.

I, like all, through this journey, especially before 11-14-06 saw through a 'glass darkly' and missed and will miss but THIS I STATE CLEARLY.

The 'antichrist' HAS BEEN REVEALED, they are escalating the 'dividing of God's land talks' SUDDEN DESTRUCTION is right at the door!

FO, thank you for your 'encouragement' I KNOW, "Scoffers heads are raised" The 'truth cuts as a 2 edged sword'.

Holding on to so called 'SOFT LIES' obscures that seventh verse from THE END of God's word, Revelation 22:15, tells us the 'liars' can dote or are made foolish and have become as fools!

Even causing some to WANT TO BAN what a 'non commissioned' or in disagreement with the 70s and 80s prohecy 'guru' teachers said! Under 'strong delusion ' they say to themselves 'LOVE THE LIE GAV' we want you to go with us.

Are we listening? Heed the leading of the Ruach Ha Kodesh, God's Holy Spirit!

The more they 'scoff' the more I praise Him and His word, thank you TO

Giving Him the glory gavrial

I'm not agreeing with Gavriel's writings. Frankly, I can't follow it. I remember a VERY old newsreel, of a reporter asking Edison (this is one of the earliest recorded film strips we still have) "What do you think of Mr. Einstein's Theory of Relativity?" Edison without a pause replied: "I don't think anything of it, because I don't understand it."

I'm just saying there have been some pretty harsh attacks on him for his date-setting. To not agree with him is one thing, to be uncharitable quite another.

I agree Brother! If we disagree.... I think we should state our case and give the reasons why. I just do not see the need for bashing of our brothers!

1 John 4
21And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.

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Val
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