Have a great day in the Lord.
As much as l would like to remain positive when l read the way you answer my eyes want to roll back in my head.
Have a great day in the Lord.
Have a great day in the Lord.
QUOTE (Miki @ May 7 2008, 02:53 AM) 
As much as l would like to remain positive when l read the way you answer my eyes want to roll back in my head.
Have a great day in the Lord.
Have a great day in the Lord.
For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to show himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him......
2 Chronicles 16:9
“Seek peace, and pursue it. (Proverbs 34:14)”
Voice....
I got your message. My answer is....your wrong....and I won't. I don't understand (crying). I'm so tired of crying over the things you say.
If you want me to agree to Kabbalah and think its just fine to practice it, I can't. I have to answer to G-d one day....and I think the truth should be spoken in love.
The church fathers you quoted were anti-semetic...no doubt. But I am not. I would think after all the conversations we have had....the one thing that you should know about me is that.
If you don't know that by now....you never will know me.
And I'm so sad about that Voice. You pick and choose what you want to believe about me.....and all the time its the worst things you can imagine.
You always think the worst of me. (crying) And I'm so tired of being hurt by you.
Just forget that I posted anything in this thread. I'm going to delete my posts.
Shalom
C
I got your message. My answer is....your wrong....and I won't. I don't understand (crying). I'm so tired of crying over the things you say.
If you want me to agree to Kabbalah and think its just fine to practice it, I can't. I have to answer to G-d one day....and I think the truth should be spoken in love.
The church fathers you quoted were anti-semetic...no doubt. But I am not. I would think after all the conversations we have had....the one thing that you should know about me is that.
If you don't know that by now....you never will know me.
And I'm so sad about that Voice. You pick and choose what you want to believe about me.....and all the time its the worst things you can imagine.
You always think the worst of me. (crying) And I'm so tired of being hurt by you.
Just forget that I posted anything in this thread. I'm going to delete my posts.
Shalom
C
Kabbalah or show biz?
By: Rabbi Raphael Afilalo
Did Madonna and others find the truth, or are they being taken for a ride by rabbis of the Kabbalah Centers?
Kabbalah has become a word 'a la mode.'
If you do or learn Kabbalah, you belong to the same circle of friends as Madonna, Britney Spears, Demi Moore, Elizabeth Taylor, etc. Today, these and other show business personalities claim to study Jewish mysticism: the Kabbalah.
But what is Kabbalah and what does it teach.
Kabbalah is the mystical and esoteric explanation of the Torah. It teaches the unfolding of the worlds, the various ways of guidance of these worlds, the role of man in the creation, the will of the Creator and so on. No other writings explain in details, the creation of this world and the ones above it, the lights or energies that influence its guidance, nor the final goal of everything.
These writings are based on ancient Jewish texts and mostly on the Zohar. They have been transmitted from teacher to student for generations, and only to the most deserving. They require conforming to a way of life where the commandments of the Torah are sincerely observed, and the guidance of renowned Kabbalist rabbis. In a recent interview on CNN, Madonna declared: "I am a Kabbalist; there is definitely a Kabbalistic approach to life or a Kabbalistic point of view."
Could the actual enchantment, manifested by Madonna and others, be only momentary or a fad, knowing the intensity and the necessary investment required to study the authentic Kabbalah?
Is it possible to study Kabbalah so easily and claim to be a Kabbalist? Are we sure of the sincerity of the so-called Kabbalah teachers in these Kabbalah Centers? Can we be sure that this is genuine Kabbalah knowledge? Are the 'rabbis' and teachings of these centres recognized and respected by renowned Jewish scholars?
The answers are no, no, no and no. Only rabbis that have studied the genuine Kabbalah can properly answer these questions. I have read some of the material taught and seen the various objects sold by these Kabbalah centres. The knowledge being distributed (or sold) has very little to do with genuine Kabbalah. It is more of an esoteric philosophy with some relation to very basic Kabbalah concepts. They sell various products from courses and books, to red woolen strings and 'blessed' bottled mineral water.
The Kabbalah Center is an international operation with schools in many parts of the world. "More than 18,000 students are enrolled in its classes in the United States and an additional 90,000 are 'active members',"
Rabbi Yehuda Berg said, adding that the organization's web site, www.kabbalah.com, is visited by 90,000 people each month and 30,000 call a toll-free number for advice or "student support."
The phenomenon has been derided on some Jewish web sites as McMysticism. Wanting to get closer to God is very noble, and this, from whatever religion or background. I am sure that Madonna and the others sincerely want to do good as she also declared: "I also believe that all paths lead to God."
The problem is the people that allegedly show these seekers 'the way,' take (a lot of) their money on the way. When we see Madonna flashing Hebrew names of God (which normally are so saintly that they should not even be pronounced) on the back wall of her rock concert, we wonder if she realizes the gravity of her actions. If Madonna thinks that she is a Kabbalist, she is certainly not. If her teachers told her she was, they do not go by any recognized standards, and I personally think that she is being abused and taken advantage of.
It is well known in Jewish rabbinical circles that what Berg and his colleagues from the Kabbalah Center are teaching has nothing to do with authentic Kabbalah. It is also well known that they have no credentials to teach Kabbalah and are not recognized or accepted as Kabbalists. Are we witnessing the same phenomena as the meditation craze during the Beatles' era? Could be. Sadly, the very negative result will be the disappointment of honest and sincere truth seekers by seductive deceivers. It is important for Jewish scholars and rabbis that are knowledgeable in the true Kabbalah, to stand up and voice their opinion and their concern.
Rabbi Raphael Afilalo, has just published a book on the authentic Kabbalah called: The Kabbalah of the Ari Z'al, according to the Ramhal. As a foreword to his book, letters of approbation from leading and renowned Kabbalist rabbis (such as the Rishon Letsion — Head rabbi of Israel, and others) confirm his knowledge of the genuine Kabbalah.
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/article.php?id=751
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And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch? Luke 6:39
וישא משלו ויאמר אליהם היוכל עור לנהל את העור הלא יפלו שניהם אל הפחת׃
literal from the hebrew .......
And He explained the question to them, elucidating " Is one who cannot see able to guide another who cannot see? Will not both of them have a pitfall ?
By: Rabbi Raphael Afilalo
Did Madonna and others find the truth, or are they being taken for a ride by rabbis of the Kabbalah Centers?
Kabbalah has become a word 'a la mode.'
If you do or learn Kabbalah, you belong to the same circle of friends as Madonna, Britney Spears, Demi Moore, Elizabeth Taylor, etc. Today, these and other show business personalities claim to study Jewish mysticism: the Kabbalah.
But what is Kabbalah and what does it teach.
Kabbalah is the mystical and esoteric explanation of the Torah. It teaches the unfolding of the worlds, the various ways of guidance of these worlds, the role of man in the creation, the will of the Creator and so on. No other writings explain in details, the creation of this world and the ones above it, the lights or energies that influence its guidance, nor the final goal of everything.
These writings are based on ancient Jewish texts and mostly on the Zohar. They have been transmitted from teacher to student for generations, and only to the most deserving. They require conforming to a way of life where the commandments of the Torah are sincerely observed, and the guidance of renowned Kabbalist rabbis. In a recent interview on CNN, Madonna declared: "I am a Kabbalist; there is definitely a Kabbalistic approach to life or a Kabbalistic point of view."
Could the actual enchantment, manifested by Madonna and others, be only momentary or a fad, knowing the intensity and the necessary investment required to study the authentic Kabbalah?
Is it possible to study Kabbalah so easily and claim to be a Kabbalist? Are we sure of the sincerity of the so-called Kabbalah teachers in these Kabbalah Centers? Can we be sure that this is genuine Kabbalah knowledge? Are the 'rabbis' and teachings of these centres recognized and respected by renowned Jewish scholars?
The answers are no, no, no and no. Only rabbis that have studied the genuine Kabbalah can properly answer these questions. I have read some of the material taught and seen the various objects sold by these Kabbalah centres. The knowledge being distributed (or sold) has very little to do with genuine Kabbalah. It is more of an esoteric philosophy with some relation to very basic Kabbalah concepts. They sell various products from courses and books, to red woolen strings and 'blessed' bottled mineral water.
The Kabbalah Center is an international operation with schools in many parts of the world. "More than 18,000 students are enrolled in its classes in the United States and an additional 90,000 are 'active members',"
Rabbi Yehuda Berg said, adding that the organization's web site, www.kabbalah.com, is visited by 90,000 people each month and 30,000 call a toll-free number for advice or "student support."
The phenomenon has been derided on some Jewish web sites as McMysticism. Wanting to get closer to God is very noble, and this, from whatever religion or background. I am sure that Madonna and the others sincerely want to do good as she also declared: "I also believe that all paths lead to God."
The problem is the people that allegedly show these seekers 'the way,' take (a lot of) their money on the way. When we see Madonna flashing Hebrew names of God (which normally are so saintly that they should not even be pronounced) on the back wall of her rock concert, we wonder if she realizes the gravity of her actions. If Madonna thinks that she is a Kabbalist, she is certainly not. If her teachers told her she was, they do not go by any recognized standards, and I personally think that she is being abused and taken advantage of.
It is well known in Jewish rabbinical circles that what Berg and his colleagues from the Kabbalah Center are teaching has nothing to do with authentic Kabbalah. It is also well known that they have no credentials to teach Kabbalah and are not recognized or accepted as Kabbalists. Are we witnessing the same phenomena as the meditation craze during the Beatles' era? Could be. Sadly, the very negative result will be the disappointment of honest and sincere truth seekers by seductive deceivers. It is important for Jewish scholars and rabbis that are knowledgeable in the true Kabbalah, to stand up and voice their opinion and their concern.
Rabbi Raphael Afilalo, has just published a book on the authentic Kabbalah called: The Kabbalah of the Ari Z'al, according to the Ramhal. As a foreword to his book, letters of approbation from leading and renowned Kabbalist rabbis (such as the Rishon Letsion — Head rabbi of Israel, and others) confirm his knowledge of the genuine Kabbalah.
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/article.php?id=751
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And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch? Luke 6:39
וישא משלו ויאמר אליהם היוכל עור לנהל את העור הלא יפלו שניהם אל הפחת׃
literal from the hebrew .......
And He explained the question to them, elucidating " Is one who cannot see able to guide another who cannot see? Will not both of them have a pitfall ?
...
Kabbalah in the Bibliotheca Philosophica Hermetica
http://www.ritmanlibrary.nl/c/p/exh/kabb/kab_intr.html
Introduction
Because the library's collecting principle is ad fontes, to the source, the collections contain some of the Hebrew kabbalistic works which were studied by the Christian Kabbalists. There is a copy of the second edition of the Zohar, printed in 1559 - 1560; several editions, in Hebrew and in Latin, of the Sefer Yetzirah, and also Kabbalistic commentaries on parts of the Bible, for instance commentaries on the Song of Songs. The majority of these works is related to the medieval Spanish Kabbalists; there are also a few works connected with the Safedian Kabbalists of the sixteenth century, notably a manuscript compendium of Chayyim Vital, the most important follower of Isaac Luria. Lurianic Kabbalah was introduced for the first time in European learned circles in the Kabbala denudata mentioned above. The library does not collect works of the later mystical movements such as the late 17th-century Sabbateans or the 18th-century Chasidim; its focus in this being on the Renaissance and its aftermath.
The library also holds a reference section of modern (post 1800) works on Kabbalah and Jewish mysticism, foremost a number of works of the great modern scholar of Jewish mysticism and the Kabbalah, Gershom Scholem; indeed, Scholem's Major Trends in Jewish Mysticism and the Encyclopedia Judaica have been gratefully rifled to provide the information for the following descriptions! Since Scholem's researches, professor Yehuda Liebes, one of today's most distinguished scholars of Jewish mysticism, has supplemented some of Scholem's views, see the entries on the Zohar (authorship) and Sefer Yetzirah (date of composition).
19th-century historical interest in the Kabbalah was already evinced amongst others by Adolphe Franck; his La kabbale ou la philosophie religieuse des Hébreux (1843) is present in the collection, as is Franz Joseph Molitor's Philosophie der Geschichte oder über die Tradition (1834-1853). The later 19th century also produced French and English occult societies interested in the Kabbalah; some of these texts are also to be found in this section, as an example of the reception of kabbalistic thought in these circles.
The following is a selection of works by Hebrew and Christian Kabbalists present in the BPH. I should like to thank Dov Shlein for transliterating and translating material from the BPH's books in Hebrew for me. The descriptions of the Hebrew manuscripts were kindly supplied by Benjamin Richler of the Jewish National and University Library, Jerusalem, that of the amulet by Esther Liebes of the Jewish National and University Library.
Cis van Heertum
Johannes Reuchlin - a Great Christian Hebraist and Kabbalistic Scholar and Defender of the Jewish People
http://users.sbuniv.edu/~hgallatin/ht34633e09.html#reu<h5 class="left"
Johannes Reuchlin (1455-1522) and the Pfefferkorn Affair</h5> Reuchlin also began his education at the Brethren School in Schlettstadt. Then he studied scholastic theology at Paris. He became fascinated by the study of law while at Paris and later furthered his study of law at Freiburg, Basel and Orleans. In 1475 he published a Latin Dictionary. It became a best seller and went through 25 editions during his life time. Meanwhile he had been studying Greek. We find him next attached to the court of the Duke of Württemberg as an educator, statesman and diplomat. During his visits in Italy his exceptional competence in Greek was quickly recognized. While at Florence he became acquainted with and was influenced by Marsiglio Ficino's students like Pico della Mirandola, among the most knowledgeable Greek Scholars in Italy. From them he learned Neoplatonism, and Pico inspired him to begin studying Hebrew in 1490. In 1506 he published De rudementius hebraicis, a Hebrew grammar and lexicon. Reuchlin was the most accomplished Hebrew scholar of his generation. In 1513 he retired from his responsibilities in Württemberg amidst a storm of controversy.
Because of the popular consternation about the Jewish role in the crucifixion, animosity toward the Jews was such that many theologians considered anything Jewish, including the Hebrew language, to be heresy. There was also the friction arising from the fact that several humanities scholars who were mere laymen had ventured to question some of the 'theologically correct' interpretations of the scriptures on the basis of their language expertise. Some anonymous bigots wrote a very irrational and inflammatory treatise inciting actions against the Jews. In order to make it the more impressive they attached the name of an baptized illiterate Jewish butcher from Cologne, Johannes Pfefferkorn, as the author. It appears that some Dominicans at Cologne actually composed the diatribe. Poor gullible and excitable Pfefferkorn was, in 1509, thrust before the Emperor Maximilian and coached to request that all Jewish books be confiscated and burned. Maximilian first complied with the request, but when the Archbishop of Mainz protested Maximilian sought advice from the faculties of several universities as well as from Reuchlin. He also consulted with Jakob Hochstraten, prior of the Dominican House in Cologne and inquisitor general for the dioceses of Mainz, Trier and Cologne.
Reuchlin weighed in with the cautionary note that only part of the Hebrew texts deserved to be destroyed--those that were clearly blasphemous such as The Generations of Jesus. Others were books of science and philosophy which were non-theological. Even the Talmud and the Cabala, the Biblical manuscripts, prayer books and hymns in Hebrew were all of value historically and culturally. Moreover, speaking as a lawyer, personal property should be confiscated and burned without being examined and condemned according to proper legal procedures. This courageous stand infuriated the conservative theologians. Reuchlin did indulge himself by participating in a bit of mud slinging, circulating in print some of his more exuberant points. His pamphlet Augenspiegel while scarcely holding a candle to flaming pamphlets circulated by the conservatives, became the basis of heresy charges lodged against him by Hochstraten. Reuchlin appealed to Pope Leo X who commissioned a panel of twenty-two ecclesiastical judges to examine the issue at Speyer in 1514. The panel cleared Reuchlin of heresy and made Hochstraten pay the costs. Hochstraten was not without recourse. He persuaded an important representative of the papal curia, Sylvester Prierias, to convince Pope Leo X to reconsider the case. Prierias was successful and Leo X annulled the action of the Speyer commission in 1520, declared some of Reuchlin's views dangerous, condemned him to silence and compelled Reuchlin to pay the costs--which he seems never to have done.
Reuchlin had already in 1514 published the letters he had received in support of his position from others entitled Clarorum viviorum epistolae: Letters of Famous Men. While Reuchlin could not now publish a rejoinder, his erstwhile scholar-supporters were not condemned to silence!
Johannes Reuchlin - a Great Christian Hebraist and Kabbalistic Scholar and Defender of the Jewish People
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannes_Reuchlin
http://users.sbuniv.edu/~hgallatin/ht34633e09.html#reu<h5 class="left"
Johannes Reuchlin (1455-1522) and the Pfefferkorn Affair</h5> Reuchlin also began his education at the Brethren School in Schlettstadt. Then he studied scholastic theology at Paris. He became fascinated by the study of law while at Paris and later furthered his study of law at Freiburg, Basel and Orleans. In 1475 he published a Latin Dictionary. It became a best seller and went through 25 editions during his life time. Meanwhile he had been studying Greek. We find him next attached to the court of the Duke of Württemberg as an educator, statesman and diplomat. During his visits in Italy his exceptional competence in Greek was quickly recognized. While at Florence he became acquainted with and was influenced by Marsiglio Ficino's students like Pico della Mirandola, among the most knowledgeable Greek Scholars in Italy. From them he learned Neoplatonism, and Pico inspired him to begin studying Hebrew in 1490. In 1506 he published De rudementius hebraicis, a Hebrew grammar and lexicon. Reuchlin was the most accomplished Hebrew scholar of his generation. In 1513 he retired from his responsibilities in Württemberg amidst a storm of controversy.
Because of the popular consternation about the Jewish role in the crucifixion, animosity toward the Jews was such that many theologians considered anything Jewish, including the Hebrew language, to be heresy. There was also the friction arising from the fact that several humanities scholars who were mere laymen had ventured to question some of the 'theologically correct' interpretations of the scriptures on the basis of their language expertise. Some anonymous bigots wrote a very irrational and inflammatory treatise inciting actions against the Jews. In order to make it the more impressive they attached the name of an baptized illiterate Jewish butcher from Cologne, Johannes Pfefferkorn, as the author. It appears that some Dominicans at Cologne actually composed the diatribe. Poor gullible and excitable Pfefferkorn was, in 1509, thrust before the Emperor Maximilian and coached to request that all Jewish books be confiscated and burned. Maximilian first complied with the request, but when the Archbishop of Mainz protested Maximilian sought advice from the faculties of several universities as well as from Reuchlin. He also consulted with Jakob Hochstraten, prior of the Dominican House in Cologne and inquisitor general for the dioceses of Mainz, Trier and Cologne.
Reuchlin weighed in with the cautionary note that only part of the Hebrew texts deserved to be destroyed--those that were clearly blasphemous such as The Generations of Jesus. Others were books of science and philosophy which were non-theological. Even the Talmud and the Cabala, the Biblical manuscripts, prayer books and hymns in Hebrew were all of value historically and culturally. Moreover, speaking as a lawyer, personal property should be confiscated and burned without being examined and condemned according to proper legal procedures. This courageous stand infuriated the conservative theologians. Reuchlin did indulge himself by participating in a bit of mud slinging, circulating in print some of his more exuberant points. His pamphlet Augenspiegel while scarcely holding a candle to flaming pamphlets circulated by the conservatives, became the basis of heresy charges lodged against him by Hochstraten. Reuchlin appealed to Pope Leo X who commissioned a panel of twenty-two ecclesiastical judges to examine the issue at Speyer in 1514. The panel cleared Reuchlin of heresy and made Hochstraten pay the costs. Hochstraten was not without recourse. He persuaded an important representative of the papal curia, Sylvester Prierias, to convince Pope Leo X to reconsider the case. Prierias was successful and Leo X annulled the action of the Speyer commission in 1520, declared some of Reuchlin's views dangerous, condemned him to silence and compelled Reuchlin to pay the costs--which he seems never to have done.
Reuchlin had already in 1514 published the letters he had received in support of his position from others entitled Clarorum viviorum epistolae: Letters of Famous Men. While Reuchlin could not now publish a rejoinder, his erstwhile scholar-supporters were not condemned to silence!
Johannes Reuchlin - a Great Christian Hebraist and Kabbalistic Scholar and Defender of the Jewish People
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannes_Reuchlin
The trickiest warlocks and witches I have ever met have been heavily steeped in the kabbalah.
God hates the kabbalah. It is esoteric knowledge from satan himself born out of mystical writings in the Babylonian exile. It makes people think they are really smart. It fills people with pride. It is a bunch of garbage and reading it is a violation of God's desire and intent for a person's life.
He is looking for simplicity within the bounds of what He has desired us to know.
God has specifically addressed "hidden knowledge" in both the Beginning, with Adam and Eve and also via the Apostle John at the end of the Revelation of Jesus Christ. The first warning to Adam and Eve perhaps was not stern enough for men to grasp how much He hates this wild speculative thinking that comes from the evil one and is introduced as Extra Biblical knowledge.
So, He makes a very stern advisement to men regarding the introduction of such knowledge into their mindset as does the Apostle Paul, the chief of sinners, but the most influential of Apostles.
Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Rev 22:14 Blessed [are] they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Rev 22:15 For without [are] dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, [and] the bright and morning star.
Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
Rev 22:18 ¶ For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book.
Rev 22:20 ¶ He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
Rev 22:21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ [be] with you all. Amen.
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Gal 1:6 ¶ I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Gal 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
Gal 1:11 ¶ But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
Gal 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught [it], but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Paul goes as high on the list as Angelic manifestations to emphasize the danger of such knowledge and false gospels and manifestations.
These are doctrines of demons. These are dangerous teachings. These are forbidden types of knowledge.
And although they have truth within them, so does the koran, confucious, the book or mormon, the catholic catechism, cindarella and the wizard of oz. All of these fables have truth in them. satan does not capture anyone without repeating many of the truths that God has foretold. None of this is a secret to him. He could surely sit beside you, tell you an accurate description of the heavenly temple and throne of God, give you numbers, rhetoric, etc...and lots of it could be quite accurate.
he's not stupid, he is bold and goes right into the throne room of God and accuses believers. he has access and his stinking skulking figure is allowed in to accuse and blaspheme. he presents himself as a prosecuting attorney and God Himself is our only defense and luckily the best defense attorney of all time.
God will forgive you if you repent and throw this knowledge out. We have all gone astray at one time or another. People seem to think satan is stupid. But I can assure you he is quite brilliant and will pander to any part of the human flesh that he can pander to in order to bring you into captivity.
his most powerful way of doing so is through the knowledge of good and evil. And even though it may not outwardly appear to be evil, because it's just writings, it is evil because it is knowledge that EXHALTS something else above the True and Living God and what He has choosen to reveal.
That is what he spends most of his time doing. Exhalting other "possibilities" above the simplicity of Christ. he is tricky. he is cunning. he is hungry and yes, in sheer numbers, he is winning.
The good news is: soon it will all be folly, for the defeated foe of mankind will soon start to reap what he has sown and all things will be restored to their natural and intended state.
It's so simple. What caused the fall of man. One question.
Gen 3:1 ¶ Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
he didn't even make a contrdictory statement. Instead, he asked a question? Yea, hath God said...
he even admitted God exsisted. He didn't deny what God said. He framed the question so to usher in doubt and confusion. Then when he saw the look in Eve's eyes....when he saw she was almost ready to disbelieve God, when he got her to misquote what God had actually said, then he lied:
Gen 3:2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
Gen 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which [is] in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
You see, God never said they couldn't touch that fruit. He said they couldn't eat it. It was probably good not to touch it, because eating it would be a progression of action. But when he got her to touch it, even knowing nothing would happen, he knew he could get her to eat it.
It's like all anti christ spiritual books. he knows once you touch them, your ready to eat!
God hates the kabbalah. It is esoteric knowledge from satan himself born out of mystical writings in the Babylonian exile. It makes people think they are really smart. It fills people with pride. It is a bunch of garbage and reading it is a violation of God's desire and intent for a person's life.
He is looking for simplicity within the bounds of what He has desired us to know.
God has specifically addressed "hidden knowledge" in both the Beginning, with Adam and Eve and also via the Apostle John at the end of the Revelation of Jesus Christ. The first warning to Adam and Eve perhaps was not stern enough for men to grasp how much He hates this wild speculative thinking that comes from the evil one and is introduced as Extra Biblical knowledge.
So, He makes a very stern advisement to men regarding the introduction of such knowledge into their mindset as does the Apostle Paul, the chief of sinners, but the most influential of Apostles.
Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Rev 22:14 Blessed [are] they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Rev 22:15 For without [are] dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, [and] the bright and morning star.
Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
Rev 22:18 ¶ For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book.
Rev 22:20 ¶ He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
Rev 22:21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ [be] with you all. Amen.
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Gal 1:6 ¶ I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Gal 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
Gal 1:11 ¶ But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
Gal 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught [it], but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Paul goes as high on the list as Angelic manifestations to emphasize the danger of such knowledge and false gospels and manifestations.
These are doctrines of demons. These are dangerous teachings. These are forbidden types of knowledge.
And although they have truth within them, so does the koran, confucious, the book or mormon, the catholic catechism, cindarella and the wizard of oz. All of these fables have truth in them. satan does not capture anyone without repeating many of the truths that God has foretold. None of this is a secret to him. He could surely sit beside you, tell you an accurate description of the heavenly temple and throne of God, give you numbers, rhetoric, etc...and lots of it could be quite accurate.
he's not stupid, he is bold and goes right into the throne room of God and accuses believers. he has access and his stinking skulking figure is allowed in to accuse and blaspheme. he presents himself as a prosecuting attorney and God Himself is our only defense and luckily the best defense attorney of all time.
God will forgive you if you repent and throw this knowledge out. We have all gone astray at one time or another. People seem to think satan is stupid. But I can assure you he is quite brilliant and will pander to any part of the human flesh that he can pander to in order to bring you into captivity.
his most powerful way of doing so is through the knowledge of good and evil. And even though it may not outwardly appear to be evil, because it's just writings, it is evil because it is knowledge that EXHALTS something else above the True and Living God and what He has choosen to reveal.
That is what he spends most of his time doing. Exhalting other "possibilities" above the simplicity of Christ. he is tricky. he is cunning. he is hungry and yes, in sheer numbers, he is winning.
The good news is: soon it will all be folly, for the defeated foe of mankind will soon start to reap what he has sown and all things will be restored to their natural and intended state.
It's so simple. What caused the fall of man. One question.
Gen 3:1 ¶ Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
he didn't even make a contrdictory statement. Instead, he asked a question? Yea, hath God said...
he even admitted God exsisted. He didn't deny what God said. He framed the question so to usher in doubt and confusion. Then when he saw the look in Eve's eyes....when he saw she was almost ready to disbelieve God, when he got her to misquote what God had actually said, then he lied:
Gen 3:2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
Gen 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which [is] in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
You see, God never said they couldn't touch that fruit. He said they couldn't eat it. It was probably good not to touch it, because eating it would be a progression of action. But when he got her to touch it, even knowing nothing would happen, he knew he could get her to eat it.
It's like all anti christ spiritual books. he knows once you touch them, your ready to eat!
There were two kinds of "hats" in what is now Iraq and Bahrain, Agade (Akkad), Sumer and Dilmun. One I nicknamed a "Magic Hat." One of the kings wore one of those and the Bible says he did evil. The practices that Solomon fell into caused Israel to be torn in two. This Magic Hat is still worn, it dates back at least 4,000 years. Abraham wore the other kind of hat. How do I know, I have researched the artifacts and seals.
I do not care who you are, what you know, Satan will get you with Kaballah and such. Solomon was wise, given wisdom by God and he did all manner of evil. I won't go into detail but he seduced The Queen of Sheba and it is said that was when Providence left his side. How, how I ask, could one who had so much lose it all? He had many wives that practiced all kinds of magic and witchcraft, without stay.
Do not practice Kaballah, please. Your blood is on you now should you not heed my warning.
I do not care who you are, what you know, Satan will get you with Kaballah and such. Solomon was wise, given wisdom by God and he did all manner of evil. I won't go into detail but he seduced The Queen of Sheba and it is said that was when Providence left his side. How, how I ask, could one who had so much lose it all? He had many wives that practiced all kinds of magic and witchcraft, without stay.
Do not practice Kaballah, please. Your blood is on you now should you not heed my warning.
QUOTE (Patmos @ May 7 2008, 07:46 AM)
The trickiest warlocks and witches I have ever met have been heavily steeped in the kabbalah.
God hates the kabbalah. It is esoteric knowledge from satan himself born out of mystical writings in the Babylonian exile. It makes people think they are really smart. It fills people with pride. It is a bunch of garbage and reading it is a violation of God's desire and intent for a person's life.
He is looking for simplicity within the bounds of what He has desired us to know.
God has specifically addressed "hidden knowledge" in both the Beginning, with Adam and Eve and also via the Apostle John at the end of the Revelation of Jesus Christ. The first warning to Adam and Eve perhaps was not stern enough for men to grasp how much He hates this wild speculative thinking that comes from the evil one and is introduced as Extra Biblical knowledge.
So, He makes a very stern advisement to men regarding the introduction of such knowledge into their mindset as does the Apostle Paul, the chief of sinners, but the most influential of Apostles.
Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Rev 22:14 Blessed [are] they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Rev 22:15 For without [are] dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, [and] the bright and morning star.
Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
Rev 22:18 ¶ For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book.
Rev 22:20 ¶ He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
Rev 22:21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ [be] with you all. Amen.
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Gal 1:6 ¶ I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Gal 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
Gal 1:11 ¶ But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
Gal 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught [it], but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Paul goes as high on the list as Angelic manifestations to emphasize the danger of such knowledge and false gospels and manifestations.
These are doctrines of demons. These are dangerous teachings. These are forbidden types of knowledge.
And although they have truth within them, so does the koran, confucious, the book or mormon, the catholic catechism, cindarella and the wizard of oz. All of these fables have truth in them. satan does not capture anyone without repeating many of the truths that God has foretold. None of this is a secret to him. He could surely sit beside you, tell you an accurate description of the heavenly temple and throne of God, give you numbers, rhetoric, etc...and lots of it could be quite accurate.
he's not stupid, he is bold and goes right into the throne room of God and accuses believers. he has access and his stinking skulking figure is allowed in to accuse and blaspheme. he presents himself as a prosecuting attorney and God Himself is our only defense and luckily the best defense attorney of all time.
God will forgive you if you repent and throw this knowledge out. We have all gone astray at one time or another. People seem to think satan is stupid. But I can assure you he is quite brilliant and will pander to any part of the human flesh that he can pander to in order to bring you into captivity.
his most powerful way of doing so is through the knowledge of good and evil. And even though it may not outwardly appear to be evil, because it's just writings, it is evil because it is knowledge that EXHALTS something else above the True and Living God and what He has choosen to reveal.
That is what he spends most of his time doing. Exhalting other "possibilities" above the simplicity of Christ. he is tricky. he is cunning. he is hungry and yes, in sheer numbers, he is winning.
The good news is: soon it will all be folly, for the defeated foe of mankind will soon start to reap what he has sown and all things will be restored to their natural and intended state.
It's so simple. What caused the fall of man. One question.
Gen 3:1 ¶ Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
he didn't even make a contrdictory statement. Instead, he asked a question? Yea, hath God said...
he even admitted God exsisted. He didn't deny what God said. He framed the question so to usher in doubt and confusion. Then when he saw the look in Eve's eyes....when he saw she was almost ready to disbelieve God, when he got her to misquote what God had actually said, then he lied:
Gen 3:2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
Gen 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which [is] in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
You see, God never said they couldn't touch that fruit. He said they couldn't eat it. It was probably good not to touch it, because eating it would be a progression of action. But when he got her to touch it, even knowing nothing would happen, he knew he could get her to eat it.
It's like all anti christ spiritual books. he knows once you touch them, your ready to eat!
God hates the kabbalah. It is esoteric knowledge from satan himself born out of mystical writings in the Babylonian exile. It makes people think they are really smart. It fills people with pride. It is a bunch of garbage and reading it is a violation of God's desire and intent for a person's life.
He is looking for simplicity within the bounds of what He has desired us to know.
God has specifically addressed "hidden knowledge" in both the Beginning, with Adam and Eve and also via the Apostle John at the end of the Revelation of Jesus Christ. The first warning to Adam and Eve perhaps was not stern enough for men to grasp how much He hates this wild speculative thinking that comes from the evil one and is introduced as Extra Biblical knowledge.
So, He makes a very stern advisement to men regarding the introduction of such knowledge into their mindset as does the Apostle Paul, the chief of sinners, but the most influential of Apostles.
Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Rev 22:14 Blessed [are] they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Rev 22:15 For without [are] dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, [and] the bright and morning star.
Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
Rev 22:18 ¶ For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book.
Rev 22:20 ¶ He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
Rev 22:21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ [be] with you all. Amen.
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Gal 1:6 ¶ I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Gal 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
Gal 1:11 ¶ But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
Gal 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught [it], but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Paul goes as high on the list as Angelic manifestations to emphasize the danger of such knowledge and false gospels and manifestations.
These are doctrines of demons. These are dangerous teachings. These are forbidden types of knowledge.
And although they have truth within them, so does the koran, confucious, the book or mormon, the catholic catechism, cindarella and the wizard of oz. All of these fables have truth in them. satan does not capture anyone without repeating many of the truths that God has foretold. None of this is a secret to him. He could surely sit beside you, tell you an accurate description of the heavenly temple and throne of God, give you numbers, rhetoric, etc...and lots of it could be quite accurate.
he's not stupid, he is bold and goes right into the throne room of God and accuses believers. he has access and his stinking skulking figure is allowed in to accuse and blaspheme. he presents himself as a prosecuting attorney and God Himself is our only defense and luckily the best defense attorney of all time.
God will forgive you if you repent and throw this knowledge out. We have all gone astray at one time or another. People seem to think satan is stupid. But I can assure you he is quite brilliant and will pander to any part of the human flesh that he can pander to in order to bring you into captivity.
his most powerful way of doing so is through the knowledge of good and evil. And even though it may not outwardly appear to be evil, because it's just writings, it is evil because it is knowledge that EXHALTS something else above the True and Living God and what He has choosen to reveal.
That is what he spends most of his time doing. Exhalting other "possibilities" above the simplicity of Christ. he is tricky. he is cunning. he is hungry and yes, in sheer numbers, he is winning.
The good news is: soon it will all be folly, for the defeated foe of mankind will soon start to reap what he has sown and all things will be restored to their natural and intended state.
It's so simple. What caused the fall of man. One question.
Gen 3:1 ¶ Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
he didn't even make a contrdictory statement. Instead, he asked a question? Yea, hath God said...
he even admitted God exsisted. He didn't deny what God said. He framed the question so to usher in doubt and confusion. Then when he saw the look in Eve's eyes....when he saw she was almost ready to disbelieve God, when he got her to misquote what God had actually said, then he lied:
Gen 3:2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
Gen 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which [is] in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
You see, God never said they couldn't touch that fruit. He said they couldn't eat it. It was probably good not to touch it, because eating it would be a progression of action. But when he got her to touch it, even knowing nothing would happen, he knew he could get her to eat it.
It's like all anti christ spiritual books. he knows once you touch them, your ready to eat!
Romans 8:37-39 (New King James Version)
37 Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. 38 For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, 39 nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
QUOTE (Jack777 @ May 7 2008, 08:42 AM)
There were two kinds of "hats" in what is now Iraq and Bahrain, Agade (Akkad), Sumer and Dilmun. One I nicknamed a "Magic Hat." One of the kings wore one of those and the Bible says he did evil. The practices that Solomon fell into caused Israel to be torn in two. This Magic Hat is still worn, it dates back at least 4,000 years. Abraham wore the other kind of hat. How do I know, I have researched the artifacts and seals.
I do not care who you are, what you know, Satan will get you with Kaballah and such. Solomon was wise, given wisdom by God and he did all manner of evil. I won't go into detail but he seduced The Queen of Sheba and it is said that was when Providence left his side. How, how I ask, could one who had so much lose it all? He had many wives that practiced all kinds of magic and witchcraft, without stay.
Do not practice Kaballah, please. Your blood is on you now should you not heed my warning.
I do not care who you are, what you know, Satan will get you with Kaballah and such. Solomon was wise, given wisdom by God and he did all manner of evil. I won't go into detail but he seduced The Queen of Sheba and it is said that was when Providence left his side. How, how I ask, could one who had so much lose it all? He had many wives that practiced all kinds of magic and witchcraft, without stay.
Do not practice Kaballah, please. Your blood is on you now should you not heed my warning.
Romans 8:1-4
1Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. 3 For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.
Thou shalt increase my greatness, and comfort me on every side.
(Psalms 71:19-21)
"My soul shall be joyful in my God; I will glory in the God of my salvation; for He hath covered me with the robe of righteousness; He hath adorned me with the garments of salvation." Isaiah 61:10.
נושע על ידי דמו
Saved by His Blood
Romans 5:9-11
Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him. (10) For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life. (11) And not only this, but we also exult in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation.
Jewish Mysticism in Revival
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JEWISH MYSTICISM IN REVIVAL, by Jan Markell
Actress Roseanne Barr has had a tumultuous life of emotional despair. Not anymore. The 47-year old actress recently visited The Kabbalah Learning Center in Los Angeles and had this to say in The Los Angeles Times: "I came here to feel healed and to give the energy of healing to other people. It is going to be difficult to leave."
In a story on a once nonobservant Jew, The Houston Chronicle quotes Alex Gedaila, "I am totally different. At last I am happy."
Barr and Gedaila attribute their transformation to the study of a centuries-old Jewish mysticism known as Kabbalah, which is Hebrew for "receiving". A resurgence of the ancient mystical tradition is winning new converts among spiritually searching Jews worldwide. And it is just another "New Age" lie, another false messiah masquerading as the divine deliverer that fulfills from within.
Followers of the Kabbalah believe that God is a cosmic energy that exists in everyone. Believers seek to become co-creators with God in establishing peace and harmony. To do this, however, one must be "consciously connected to God." They follow the Zohar as their bible. The Zohar is attributed to a first-century Jew by the name of Rabbi Shimon bar Yohai. This mystical, occult-oriented commentary teaches reincarnation and a host of other "hidden truth" or "enlighten knowledge" deceptions commonly found in the manuals of the mystical.
Proponents of the Kabbalah believe its teachings can help the practitioner reach greater fulfillment by stepping outside the ordinary realm of the five senses into the extraordinary realm of the sixth or extrasensory sense. Great attention is placed on learning how to tap into the unseen, metaphysical world first described to Eve by the serpent in the Garden of Eden.
In this modern, materialistic and high tech age of rampant deception just prior to the true Messiah's return, it should hardly be surprising that the devil is aggressively promoting this successfully distracting and romantically ancient, mystical road to prominent Jews seeking spiritual fulfillment.
The Kabbalah was once a road less traveled but has now become a fast-moving highway, an interesting and increasingly popular detour away from the God of Israel and into the wayward wadis of the spiritual wilderness of death.
http://www.olivetreeviews.org/articles/Jan...yupZpAlCTDImdUg
THE TRUTH AND THE ONLY WAY.....YESHUA! (not Kabbalah)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6LGSzNW9xU...feature=related
--> Posted to Jans_Articles for June, 2003
JEWISH MYSTICISM IN REVIVAL, by Jan Markell
Actress Roseanne Barr has had a tumultuous life of emotional despair. Not anymore. The 47-year old actress recently visited The Kabbalah Learning Center in Los Angeles and had this to say in The Los Angeles Times: "I came here to feel healed and to give the energy of healing to other people. It is going to be difficult to leave."
In a story on a once nonobservant Jew, The Houston Chronicle quotes Alex Gedaila, "I am totally different. At last I am happy."
Barr and Gedaila attribute their transformation to the study of a centuries-old Jewish mysticism known as Kabbalah, which is Hebrew for "receiving". A resurgence of the ancient mystical tradition is winning new converts among spiritually searching Jews worldwide. And it is just another "New Age" lie, another false messiah masquerading as the divine deliverer that fulfills from within.
Followers of the Kabbalah believe that God is a cosmic energy that exists in everyone. Believers seek to become co-creators with God in establishing peace and harmony. To do this, however, one must be "consciously connected to God." They follow the Zohar as their bible. The Zohar is attributed to a first-century Jew by the name of Rabbi Shimon bar Yohai. This mystical, occult-oriented commentary teaches reincarnation and a host of other "hidden truth" or "enlighten knowledge" deceptions commonly found in the manuals of the mystical.
Proponents of the Kabbalah believe its teachings can help the practitioner reach greater fulfillment by stepping outside the ordinary realm of the five senses into the extraordinary realm of the sixth or extrasensory sense. Great attention is placed on learning how to tap into the unseen, metaphysical world first described to Eve by the serpent in the Garden of Eden.
In this modern, materialistic and high tech age of rampant deception just prior to the true Messiah's return, it should hardly be surprising that the devil is aggressively promoting this successfully distracting and romantically ancient, mystical road to prominent Jews seeking spiritual fulfillment.
The Kabbalah was once a road less traveled but has now become a fast-moving highway, an interesting and increasingly popular detour away from the God of Israel and into the wayward wadis of the spiritual wilderness of death.
http://www.olivetreeviews.org/articles/Jan...yupZpAlCTDImdUg
THE TRUTH AND THE ONLY WAY.....YESHUA! (not Kabbalah)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6LGSzNW9xU...feature=related
I Know Whom I Have Believed
He was recovering from his wounds in the hospital where he grew bored and looked around for something to read, somehow God was working ahd he found a spare New Testament. As he read its words, his heart was moved and he felt a need to accept Christ as his Savior, but he wasn't ready for that at that time. Shortly, however, he was awakened and told to pray with another dying POW because they thought he was a Christian.
Whittle later wrote, "I dropped on my knees and held the boy's hand in mine. In a few roken words, I confessed my sins and asked Christ to forgive me. I believed right there that He did forgive me. I then prayed and pleaded God's promises. When I arose from my knees, he was dead. A look of peace had come over his troubled face, and I cannot but believe that God who used him to bring me to the Savior used me to lead him to trust Christ's precious blood and find pardon."
He then wrote this hymn - "I Know Whom I Have Believed" - as an expression of his testimony of faith in Jesus Christ
Indeed, God works in His own mysterious ways, which we probably find rather difficult to imagine or even to accept. The only more reliable way we can depend on to analyze events is by rationalizing, but again, our brains are limited.
When I was singing this hymn, I can somehow get a taste of what the author felt while writing it. Like, of all people, why did God choose me? I am not better than them in anyway, why? Why would He give His only son to die for us. Why? I mean if we try to think in terms of human beings. Which of us would have that big a heart to do that? It's simple unfathomable but it's true.
And to think about it, if that is so unfathomable, then how do we know it's true? how can we be sure of it? Well, looking at the title of the hymn itself, I know whom I have believed, we should get the whole point which is I have believe first, then I know.
In the second stanza, the author showed that he didn't understand, didn't know how God impart the saving faith to him and how believing in His Word can bring peace within his heart. Commonly, people do not really turn to His Word to find comfort, but to things/people which have once given them temporary comfort. Again very commonly, people, myself used to be one, avoided reading His Words, worrying about its authenticity, or maybe they thought they can live as a Christian without struggling or probably enjoying in reading His Words.
Reading the Bible is more than just what we should do because we are Christians, or because we are told to do so. Christians strive to be more like Christ, to live their lives according to what God wants them to be. How then can we announce ourselves as Christians but not live by His Words, which basically contains the content of God's heart?
In Every Thought Captive, Richard Pratt said that the bible is the absolutely authoritative guide for all believers; without it we are left merely guessing at God's mind, but with it God's directives for all areas of our lives are made certain and clear, as Psalmist wrote "Thy word is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path".
Lastly, I believe that the author has another message for us through this hymn. All the things that he said he does not know, are less important than what is in the Refrain, taken from 2 Timothy 1:12. Focus less on those things that we do not understand because we are just too limited to do so, but more on our commitment and His Promise and on that day, when He comes again, we will be able to understand all those.
Others may ridicule us for believing in something in which there are so many things we do not really understand, so many mysteries, full of questions. Indeed, our spiritual life may be filled with many things we may not fully understand but by His Grace, we can still live with assurance and certainty of our conquering and triumphant faith.
Proverbs 28:12-16 When the righteous triumph, there is great elation; but when the wicked rise to power, men go into hiding. He who conceals his sins does not prosper, but whoever confesses and renounces them finds mercy. Blessed is the man who always fears the LORD, but he who hardens his heart falls into trouble. Like a roaring lion or a charging bear is a wicked man ruling over a helpless people. A tyrannical ruler lacks judgment, but he who hates ill-gotten gain will enjoy a long life.
1 Peter 5:10 But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you.
http://uponmyknees.wordpress.com/2007/04/2...-have-believed/
http://jewsforjesus.org/publications/issue...kabbalahhistory
"I know whom I have believed and am persuaded that He is able to keep what I have committed to Him until that Day" 2 Timothy 1:12Daniel Webster Whittle, the author of this hymn was involved in one of the bloodiest conflict in American history, the Battle of Vicksburg where he lost his right arm, badly injured and was taken prisoner by the Confederates.
He was recovering from his wounds in the hospital where he grew bored and looked around for something to read, somehow God was working ahd he found a spare New Testament. As he read its words, his heart was moved and he felt a need to accept Christ as his Savior, but he wasn't ready for that at that time. Shortly, however, he was awakened and told to pray with another dying POW because they thought he was a Christian.
Whittle later wrote, "I dropped on my knees and held the boy's hand in mine. In a few roken words, I confessed my sins and asked Christ to forgive me. I believed right there that He did forgive me. I then prayed and pleaded God's promises. When I arose from my knees, he was dead. A look of peace had come over his troubled face, and I cannot but believe that God who used him to bring me to the Savior used me to lead him to trust Christ's precious blood and find pardon."
He then wrote this hymn - "I Know Whom I Have Believed" - as an expression of his testimony of faith in Jesus Christ
I know not why God's wondrous grace
To me He hath made known,
Nor why, unworthy, Christ in love
Redeemed me for His own.
But I know Whom I have believèd,
And am persuaded that He is able
To keep that which I've committed
Unto Him against that day.
I know not how this saving faith
To me He did impart,
Nor how believing in His Word
Wrought peace within my heart.
I know not how the Spirit moves,
Convincing us of sin,
Revealing Jesus through the Word,
Creating faith in Him.
I know not what of good or ill
May be reserved for me,
Of weary ways or golden days,
Before His face I see.
I know not when my Lord may come,
At night or noonday fair,
Nor if I walk the vale with Him,
Or meet Him in the air.
Indeed, God works in His own mysterious ways, which we probably find rather difficult to imagine or even to accept. The only more reliable way we can depend on to analyze events is by rationalizing, but again, our brains are limited.
When I was singing this hymn, I can somehow get a taste of what the author felt while writing it. Like, of all people, why did God choose me? I am not better than them in anyway, why? Why would He give His only son to die for us. Why? I mean if we try to think in terms of human beings. Which of us would have that big a heart to do that? It's simple unfathomable but it's true.
And to think about it, if that is so unfathomable, then how do we know it's true? how can we be sure of it? Well, looking at the title of the hymn itself, I know whom I have believed, we should get the whole point which is I have believe first, then I know.
In the second stanza, the author showed that he didn't understand, didn't know how God impart the saving faith to him and how believing in His Word can bring peace within his heart. Commonly, people do not really turn to His Word to find comfort, but to things/people which have once given them temporary comfort. Again very commonly, people, myself used to be one, avoided reading His Words, worrying about its authenticity, or maybe they thought they can live as a Christian without struggling or probably enjoying in reading His Words.
Reading the Bible is more than just what we should do because we are Christians, or because we are told to do so. Christians strive to be more like Christ, to live their lives according to what God wants them to be. How then can we announce ourselves as Christians but not live by His Words, which basically contains the content of God's heart?
In Every Thought Captive, Richard Pratt said that the bible is the absolutely authoritative guide for all believers; without it we are left merely guessing at God's mind, but with it God's directives for all areas of our lives are made certain and clear, as Psalmist wrote "Thy word is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path".
Lastly, I believe that the author has another message for us through this hymn. All the things that he said he does not know, are less important than what is in the Refrain, taken from 2 Timothy 1:12. Focus less on those things that we do not understand because we are just too limited to do so, but more on our commitment and His Promise and on that day, when He comes again, we will be able to understand all those.
Others may ridicule us for believing in something in which there are so many things we do not really understand, so many mysteries, full of questions. Indeed, our spiritual life may be filled with many things we may not fully understand but by His Grace, we can still live with assurance and certainty of our conquering and triumphant faith.
Proverbs 28:12-16 When the righteous triumph, there is great elation; but when the wicked rise to power, men go into hiding. He who conceals his sins does not prosper, but whoever confesses and renounces them finds mercy. Blessed is the man who always fears the LORD, but he who hardens his heart falls into trouble. Like a roaring lion or a charging bear is a wicked man ruling over a helpless people. A tyrannical ruler lacks judgment, but he who hates ill-gotten gain will enjoy a long life.
1 Peter 5:10 But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you.
http://uponmyknees.wordpress.com/2007/04/2...-have-believed/
http://jewsforjesus.org/publications/issue...kabbalahhistory
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The Bible, only one of the "Three Great Lights" of Masonry (along with the Square and Compass), is represented to the Blue Lodge as symbolizing truth. In reality, the Bible may be replaced with the Koran (Qur'an), the Book of the Law, the Hindu scriptures or any other "holy book," depending on the preferences of the men in the Lodge. In most American Lodges, the members are told that all the Masonic system and its rituals are "based on the Bible." Such, however, is not the case. In Chase's "Digest of Masonic Law," pages 207-209, it is clearly written that "Masonry has nothing whatever to do with the Bible," and that "it is not founded upon the Bible, for if it were it would not be Masonry, it would be something else."
Albert Pike, in writing on the subject of Masonry's source-book said, "Masonry is a search after light. That search leads us directly back, as you see, to the Kabalah." (Morals and Dogma, page 741). The Kabalah, then seems to be the actual sourcebook of Masonry and the Bible (as it is spoken of in the ritual) a piece of the furniture" of the Lodge.
Above by ex 33 degree Mason Jim Shaw in "The Deadly Deception", page 145
Albert Pike, in writing on the subject of Masonry's source-book said, "Masonry is a search after light. That search leads us directly back, as you see, to the Kabalah." (Morals and Dogma, page 741). The Kabalah, then seems to be the actual sourcebook of Masonry and the Bible (as it is spoken of in the ritual) a piece of the furniture" of the Lodge.
Above by ex 33 degree Mason Jim Shaw in "The Deadly Deception", page 145
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Jim Shaw, an ex-33 degree Mason says: In a well ordered lodge, Jesus is never mentioned except in vague, philosophical terms. Prayers are never prayed in His name, and when scriptures are quoted in the ritual, all references to Him are simply omitted. For example, II Thessalonians 3:6 is used in the ritual, but not the way it is in your Bible; the words "in the name or our Lord Jesus Christ" are entirely omitted. Likewise, the ritual includes 1 Peter 2:5, but with the words "by Jesus Christ" omitted. Albert Mackey, after Albert Pike the highest Msonic authority, calls this changing of the scriptures "a slight but necessary modification" (Masonic Ritualist, page 272). Reference, The Deadly Deception, Page 76
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satan has understood the trinity for a long time. he was never able to stop God from enacting His plan, because although a constant and everpresent nuisance, he was subtly dismissed by God as God made sport of him like God made sport of Pharaoh.
We can see satan's knowledge of of God's redemptive plan through the false triune aspects of false religions dating back to Babylonian times with bel, semiarmis, ishtar, etc etc etc..
It appears many expositors did not think satan understood the significance of Jesus going to the cross. satan always knew about the substitutionary atonement even if he missed a detail or two. he knew what Jesus was planning on doing, because it was revealed in Scriptures.
Nonetheless, he was only given so much authority to thawrt the plan. The authority he was given was to get Jesus to sin; if indeed this could not be accomplished, satan would fail at his personal mission. We see signs of this in the temptation account in the wilderness as well as the demon spirits or fallen angel account in Gad with the Gaderene who knew Jesus was the Son of God and begged Him not to torment them before His time. That of course didn't happen as Jesus freed the Gaderenne who had a legion of evil spirits within him and sent them into swine who wailed and ran into the water.
This event foreshadowed their final judgement in which they will be thrown into the Lake of Fire as water is not a good place for evil spirits.
Therefore, the adoptations of false religions regarding trinatarian aspects is not surprising. satan uses all methods possbile to decieve humans so that he can exhalt himself.
The false trinatarian method is not unique to him. he is not concerned what people think until he ascends to a postition where he can be worshipped via the a/c with support of the false prophet...at that time everyone will be either a real or false trinatarian. They will either be worshipping the devil via his idol in the in the defile temple or will be fleeing as hard hearted people are finally forced to use their eyes to really see and their ears to really hear what the Spirit has been saying.
It will be played out in three persons, making the real Trinity all that more believable as the beast then moves forward to conquer as many as he can. The desire of his is worship. It's always been worship and it's always been his personal jihad against mankind. It's the same goal he even presented to Jesus in the wilderness...worship me and I WILL give you...
One of his famous I WILL statements..
And of course, he had the deed to the world and was able to give Jesus all the kingdoms...however since he is a liar and the father of all lies, it would be questionable whether or not he would have done so and even if he did, would have only done so for a brief moment, because he of course had not included a time element to this statement...
The Lord didn't mess around with satan at that juncture, but basically told him to go jump in a lake! Which of course he'll be forced to do at the great White Throne judgement.
Therefore, do not be decieved. satan has known elements of God's redemptive plan for a long time. It appears he was shielded from the knowledge as to whom and/or where Jesus was until Jesus was of the age when a Levite was ordained to preach which is thirty years old.
I'm sure Jesus was somewhat a person of interest as Jesus preached in the Synagogue at the early age of 12...but we don't see any accounts of satan being allowed to overtly attack the Son of Man until He was annointed by John the Baptist for His earthly ministry.
We do see a record of satanically inspired effort to kill all boys from the City of David at an early age. It appears satan knew the Messiah was around but was not able to specifically distinguish Him until the Spirit of the Dove had annointed Jesus. He probably had clues and made life difficult but was not 100% sure.
This same Spirit of Truth, is what God/Jesus gives to real believers and satan is able to recognize it and then moves forward to test and try the Spirit of Truth in all believers lives, after they have recieved the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
We can see satan's knowledge of of God's redemptive plan through the false triune aspects of false religions dating back to Babylonian times with bel, semiarmis, ishtar, etc etc etc..
It appears many expositors did not think satan understood the significance of Jesus going to the cross. satan always knew about the substitutionary atonement even if he missed a detail or two. he knew what Jesus was planning on doing, because it was revealed in Scriptures.
Nonetheless, he was only given so much authority to thawrt the plan. The authority he was given was to get Jesus to sin; if indeed this could not be accomplished, satan would fail at his personal mission. We see signs of this in the temptation account in the wilderness as well as the demon spirits or fallen angel account in Gad with the Gaderene who knew Jesus was the Son of God and begged Him not to torment them before His time. That of course didn't happen as Jesus freed the Gaderenne who had a legion of evil spirits within him and sent them into swine who wailed and ran into the water.
This event foreshadowed their final judgement in which they will be thrown into the Lake of Fire as water is not a good place for evil spirits.
Therefore, the adoptations of false religions regarding trinatarian aspects is not surprising. satan uses all methods possbile to decieve humans so that he can exhalt himself.
The false trinatarian method is not unique to him. he is not concerned what people think until he ascends to a postition where he can be worshipped via the a/c with support of the false prophet...at that time everyone will be either a real or false trinatarian. They will either be worshipping the devil via his idol in the in the defile temple or will be fleeing as hard hearted people are finally forced to use their eyes to really see and their ears to really hear what the Spirit has been saying.
It will be played out in three persons, making the real Trinity all that more believable as the beast then moves forward to conquer as many as he can. The desire of his is worship. It's always been worship and it's always been his personal jihad against mankind. It's the same goal he even presented to Jesus in the wilderness...worship me and I WILL give you...
One of his famous I WILL statements..
And of course, he had the deed to the world and was able to give Jesus all the kingdoms...however since he is a liar and the father of all lies, it would be questionable whether or not he would have done so and even if he did, would have only done so for a brief moment, because he of course had not included a time element to this statement...
The Lord didn't mess around with satan at that juncture, but basically told him to go jump in a lake! Which of course he'll be forced to do at the great White Throne judgement.
Therefore, do not be decieved. satan has known elements of God's redemptive plan for a long time. It appears he was shielded from the knowledge as to whom and/or where Jesus was until Jesus was of the age when a Levite was ordained to preach which is thirty years old.
I'm sure Jesus was somewhat a person of interest as Jesus preached in the Synagogue at the early age of 12...but we don't see any accounts of satan being allowed to overtly attack the Son of Man until He was annointed by John the Baptist for His earthly ministry.
We do see a record of satanically inspired effort to kill all boys from the City of David at an early age. It appears satan knew the Messiah was around but was not able to specifically distinguish Him until the Spirit of the Dove had annointed Jesus. He probably had clues and made life difficult but was not 100% sure.
This same Spirit of Truth, is what God/Jesus gives to real believers and satan is able to recognize it and then moves forward to test and try the Spirit of Truth in all believers lives, after they have recieved the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
This is my view of it all also.
By preponderance of the evidence we must talk about Kabbalah and alpert pike all in the same breath (at least if you have your blinders off) Lets mention some evidence.
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Pike is the only Confederate leader to have a statue erected in his honor in the city of Washington, D.C. The statue shows his enormous size. No statue of Robert E. Lee or Stonewall Jackson or any other Confederate leader has ever been erected in the nation’s capital. So is it odd that a seedy Confederate general who committed war crimes should have the only statue in Washington ever erected to someone who served as a Confederate leader. It is even harder to believe that the Civil Rights movement of the 1960’s and 70’s didn’t try to remove the Pike statue on racial grounds. U.S. Rep. James Richardson, the masonic Grand Commander, introduced House Resolution 178 on March 10, 1898, to permit his Scottish Rite to erect on Federal property a huge memorial statue honoring Albert Pike, a mass murderer who had worked for several decades to overthrow America's laws and government.
The little snipet below is interesting ...the third degree of masonry and the third eye..and how about our dollar bill.
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In 3rd degree lectures Masons read:
...that All-Seeing Eye, whom the sun, moon and stars obey, and under whose watchful care even comets perform their stupendous revolutions, beholds the inmost recesses of the human heart, and will reward us according to our works.
...that All-Seeing Eye, whom the sun, moon and stars obey, and under whose watchful care even comets perform their stupendous revolutions, beholds the inmost recesses of the human heart, and will reward us according to our works.
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Masonic UN-Holy Trinity:
Masonry uses symbols of the Bible to hide the real Masonic meaning behind their Hermetic Rites. They just use the name Solomon for their Temples. The truth is, Solomon, the King of Israel, was not a Mason, nor did he ever have any connection with Freemasonry. The real reason Freemasonry uses the name Solomon is to hide the real names of the Sun gods from 3 different nations. This name Solomon is not the Israelitish king. It is name in form, but different in its meaning. It is a substitute, which is externally like the royal name. This name is a composite. SOL-OM-ON, the names of the Sun in Latin, Indian and Egyptian.." Quoted from the Masonic Report, McQuaig, p. 33
The Royal Arch Candidate is led to believe that the lost name for God is JAH-BUL-ON
JAH represents the name for Yahweh or Jehovah. BUL represents Ba'al or Bel. The name of the god of Jezebel and Ahab. ON represents the name of the Egyptian Sun God. The god of Pharaoh... This is also known as the Grand-Omnific Royal Arch Word.
Contrast these with Yahweh or Jehovah, Jesus or Yeshua, and the Holy Spirit.
Freemasonry Lodge meetings are usually held in the upper chambers of their lodges. The worshippers of Baal (the Sun-god) erected their idols and altars on top of hills, among sacred groves, or on the roofs of houses. And just as the Witches hold their meetings at night, so does the Freemason meet at night.
Following is the sort of "knowledge" would be Masons pay "big bucks" and make blood curdling oaths to receive. It is sheer nonsense... To a Christian or Jew it's pure blasphemy also.
Regarding the identity of God, in Scottish Rite Masonry, the 13th degree is that of the Royal Arch. In it, the alleged true, previously hidden name of God is revealed as Jabulum. "The Encyclopedia of Freemasonry," page 359, affirms this, under the entry for Jabulum, yet does not give the meaning. But in the same book on page 102, in the definition of Bel, the meaning is given. It says, "Bel is the contracted form of . . . Baal, and was worshipped by the Babylonians as their chief deity . . . It has, with Jah and Oh, been introduced into the Royal Arch system as a representative of the" name of God. Jah represents the name Jehovah, Bel represents Baal, and Oh represents Osiris.
Genesis 1:26 (4000 B.C.): "And God said, Let us make man in our image."
Proverbs 30:4 (written 700 B.C.): "...What is His name, and what is His son's name, if thou canst tell?"
John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Masonry uses symbols of the Bible to hide the real Masonic meaning behind their Hermetic Rites. They just use the name Solomon for their Temples. The truth is, Solomon, the King of Israel, was not a Mason, nor did he ever have any connection with Freemasonry. The real reason Freemasonry uses the name Solomon is to hide the real names of the Sun gods from 3 different nations. This name Solomon is not the Israelitish king. It is name in form, but different in its meaning. It is a substitute, which is externally like the royal name. This name is a composite. SOL-OM-ON, the names of the Sun in Latin, Indian and Egyptian.." Quoted from the Masonic Report, McQuaig, p. 33
The Royal Arch Candidate is led to believe that the lost name for God is JAH-BUL-ON
JAH represents the name for Yahweh or Jehovah. BUL represents Ba'al or Bel. The name of the god of Jezebel and Ahab. ON represents the name of the Egyptian Sun God. The god of Pharaoh... This is also known as the Grand-Omnific Royal Arch Word.
Contrast these with Yahweh or Jehovah, Jesus or Yeshua, and the Holy Spirit.
Freemasonry Lodge meetings are usually held in the upper chambers of their lodges. The worshippers of Baal (the Sun-god) erected their idols and altars on top of hills, among sacred groves, or on the roofs of houses. And just as the Witches hold their meetings at night, so does the Freemason meet at night.
Following is the sort of "knowledge" would be Masons pay "big bucks" and make blood curdling oaths to receive. It is sheer nonsense... To a Christian or Jew it's pure blasphemy also.
Regarding the identity of God, in Scottish Rite Masonry, the 13th degree is that of the Royal Arch. In it, the alleged true, previously hidden name of God is revealed as Jabulum. "The Encyclopedia of Freemasonry," page 359, affirms this, under the entry for Jabulum, yet does not give the meaning. But in the same book on page 102, in the definition of Bel, the meaning is given. It says, "Bel is the contracted form of . . . Baal, and was worshipped by the Babylonians as their chief deity . . . It has, with Jah and Oh, been introduced into the Royal Arch system as a representative of the" name of God. Jah represents the name Jehovah, Bel represents Baal, and Oh represents Osiris.
Genesis 1:26 (4000 B.C.): "And God said, Let us make man in our image."
Proverbs 30:4 (written 700 B.C.): "...What is His name, and what is His son's name, if thou canst tell?"
John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
God hates mixing...from the begining to the end.
Darkness must be exposed to the light. If allowed to mingle will leaven the whole.
Should we really only look at the good part of what one says? Or should we try to digest the darkness and put it in perspective to what it is.
We can't come out of her if we don't know she's there. So lets expose the works of darkness.
Don't allow yourself to be defeated when accused of being on a witch hunt. No... lets open our eyes and look at the preponderance of the evidence. Let's sober up and grow up to God's word.
Darkness must be exposed to the light. If allowed to mingle will leaven the whole.
Should we really only look at the good part of what one says? Or should we try to digest the darkness and put it in perspective to what it is.
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The rank and file never learn the "highest secrets". If they did--they may flee in a hurry when they realize "Lucifer, the Light-bearer!" is "directing the show".
This reference is on page 321, of one of Freemasonry's greatest books entitled "Morals and Dogma" by Albert Pike.
This reference is on page 321, of one of Freemasonry's greatest books entitled "Morals and Dogma" by Albert Pike.
We can't come out of her if we don't know she's there. So lets expose the works of darkness.
Don't allow yourself to be defeated when accused of being on a witch hunt. No... lets open our eyes and look at the preponderance of the evidence. Let's sober up and grow up to God's word.
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Another Diabolical Reversal
The Masonic Temple itself
God took great amount of time spelling out exactly how His Temple (Solomen's Temple) should look. In God's Temple, one entered from the east and gradually proceeded in holiness to ultimately the Holy of Holies on the West side of the Temple.
In a diabolical twist, Masonic Temples have their alter in the opposite side of the Temple. The Masons enter in the west vs from the east. This is diabolically significant as say an upside down crucifix would be. It's a dead giveaway to even the most naive among us as to who their alter is really honoring. This reverse image is very prevalent in the occult. The occult teachings seem to always be the negative image of the positive of God’s Word .
The Masonic Temple always has the entrance in the west and the altar in the east. In the Bible we are told the entrance of the Garden of Eden was in the east. Solomon’s Temple (and subsequent Jewish Temples) had their entrances in the east and the Holy of Holies in the west. To enter the Garden of Eden and go to the Tree of Life, one was traveling from east to west. To enter the Tabernacle or the Temple to approach God, the priest traveled from east to west. Freemasonry is 180 degrees reversed.
"The east" is the location within the Lodge Hall where the Worshipful Master sits upon his throne/chair of authority. In the ancient mystery religions, from which Freemasonry springs, the Sun was worshipped, and the most sacred direction was east, where the sun arose each morning to renew life on earth. The position of the feet is no coincidence when facing the Worshipful Master "in the East." The position of the feet forms the "Tau Cross," a phallic symbol from antiquity associated with phallic worship and Sun worship. The Sun was viewed as a phallic symbol, rising each day as the source of life (male), to impregnate the earth (female) with new life. Such worship was always done facing East. In the Masonic rituals, the command to "STAND ERECT" is not a coincidence. It relates to this phallic worship.
The Masonic Temple itself
God took great amount of time spelling out exactly how His Temple (Solomen's Temple) should look. In God's Temple, one entered from the east and gradually proceeded in holiness to ultimately the Holy of Holies on the West side of the Temple.
In a diabolical twist, Masonic Temples have their alter in the opposite side of the Temple. The Masons enter in the west vs from the east. This is diabolically significant as say an upside down crucifix would be. It's a dead giveaway to even the most naive among us as to who their alter is really honoring. This reverse image is very prevalent in the occult. The occult teachings seem to always be the negative image of the positive of God’s Word .
The Masonic Temple always has the entrance in the west and the altar in the east. In the Bible we are told the entrance of the Garden of Eden was in the east. Solomon’s Temple (and subsequent Jewish Temples) had their entrances in the east and the Holy of Holies in the west. To enter the Garden of Eden and go to the Tree of Life, one was traveling from east to west. To enter the Tabernacle or the Temple to approach God, the priest traveled from east to west. Freemasonry is 180 degrees reversed.
"The east" is the location within the Lodge Hall where the Worshipful Master sits upon his throne/chair of authority. In the ancient mystery religions, from which Freemasonry springs, the Sun was worshipped, and the most sacred direction was east, where the sun arose each morning to renew life on earth. The position of the feet is no coincidence when facing the Worshipful Master "in the East." The position of the feet forms the "Tau Cross," a phallic symbol from antiquity associated with phallic worship and Sun worship. The Sun was viewed as a phallic symbol, rising each day as the source of life (male), to impregnate the earth (female) with new life. Such worship was always done facing East. In the Masonic rituals, the command to "STAND ERECT" is not a coincidence. It relates to this phallic worship.
There's your sacred "G" Oh yeah...sacred geometry.. Get a wake up call people. Don't defile yourself with casual conversation with vessels of darkness. Know what you're doing. This isn't a guy in a red suit with a tail. They're mocking you.
This is the DMZ at it's best...gradually slowly over a period of time they draw you in..You partake with them because they've hidden and disquised themselves in the shaded area of this zone. It's a horrible thing to wake up to where you've come to.
Come out from them...Does that really mean the church? Really??? Get a grip here. Who is the real enemy? He has infiltrated the church. Should we just walk away and give it over to him? Or should we stand where we are and hold our ground and occupy like the Lord tells us?
Certainly there is a time to leave but not before speaking the truth. You can't and won't speak the truth if you don't really love my friends.
QUOTE (Patmos @ May 7 2008, 08:46 AM)
Gen 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which [is] in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
You see, God never said they couldn't touch that fruit. He said they couldn't eat it. It was probably good not to touch it, because eating it would be a progression of action. But when he got her to touch it, even knowing nothing would happen, he knew he could get her to eat it.
It's like all anti christ spiritual books. he knows once you touch them, your ready to eat!
Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
You see, God never said they couldn't touch that fruit. He said they couldn't eat it. It was probably good not to touch it, because eating it would be a progression of action. But when he got her to touch it, even knowing nothing would happen, he knew he could get her to eat it.
It's like all anti christ spiritual books. he knows once you touch them, your ready to eat!
Colossian 2:16-23
16Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. 17These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ. 18Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you for the prize. Such a person goes into great detail about what he has seen, and his unspiritual mind puffs him up with idle notions. 19He has lost connection with the Head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow. 20Since you died with Christ to the basic principles of this world, why, as though you still belonged to it, do you submit to its rules: 21"Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!"? 22These are all destined to perish with use, because they are based on human commands and teachings. 23Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence.
Jeremiah 17:8
For he shall be as a tree planted by the waters, and that spreadeth out her roots by the river, and shall not see when heat cometh, but her leaf shall be green; and shall not be careful in the year of drought, neither shall cease from yielding fruit.
Mark 7:14-23
"When He had called all the multitude to Himself, He said to them, 'Hear Me, everyone, and understand: There is nothing that enters a man from outside which can defile him; but the things which come out of him, those are the things that defile a man. If anyone has ears to hear, let him hear!'
When He had entered a house away from the crowd, His disciples asked Him concerning the parable. So He said to them, 'Are you thus without understanding also? Do you not perceive that whatever enters a man from outside cannot defile him, because it does not enter his heart but his stomach, and is eliminated, thus purifying all foods?' And He said, 'What comes out of a man, that defiles a man. For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lewdness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness. All these evil things come from within and defile a man.'"
Consider what our Lord was not doing when He said this: (1) He was not expressing any disapproval of what was actually said about clean/unclean meats in the Levitical Law.
Jesus never said a word against anything in the Torah or any statute of God given to His Jewish people through Moses. He came not to destroy the law but to fulfill it {see Matt. 5:17}.
Jesus maintained - in practice and teaching - the highest allegiance for God's law.
So, whatever construction the reader places on this text in Mark, it cannot mean that He showed no regard for Levitical distinctions.
(2) This passage cannot be pressed into the service of recreational or social intoxication. The phrase "whatever enters a man from outside cannot defile him," should not be lifted from the context and cited as authority for the use of tobacco, alcohol or recreational drugs. These behaviors are prompted by selfish and ungodly motives from the heart and result in conduct not pleasing to God.
The text in Mark 7:14-23 cannot be wisely studied without reference to the scene and the subjects of this pronouncement. The scene was - the leaders of the opposition condemning the Lord's disciples because they did not practice "the tradition of the elders," (verse 3). The subjects of this pronouncement are those men, the scribes and Pharisees who came from Jerusalem to watch and judge. Jesus called them "hypocrites" and used the Word of God (Isaiah 29) to expose their attitude and agenda. They did not respect and uphold the divine statues of the Levitical system (the law of Moses). They laid aside the commandments of God to write their own creed. When they saw the Lord's disciples disregarding their creed (human religious legislation), they "found fault," (verse 2). This is the scene and the subjects of the passage.
According to the tradition upheld by these men - Jewish men and women were required to wash and eat in their prescribed manner. Their "test of fellowship" could be expressed this way: If you eat the food we legislate, in the way we legislate, washing your hands the way we legislate, you will be considered worthy of fellowship (sound, orthodox).
Now the heart of the matter is - Jesus didn't conform to that, nor demand that His men conform. Jesus said: What defiles is the sin that comes from your heart, not the food you put into your stomach or the way you wash your hands!
Jesus is not telling anybody that it doesn't matter what you eat or drink. And He is not teaching against washing your hands. He is answering the external, carnal legalism of the scribes and Pharisees, who wrote their own creed and used it to judge, condemn and exclude.
The point is, purity in life is not about following the religious traditions of men.
The text in Mark 7:14-23 cannot be wisely studied without reference to the scene and the subjects of this pronouncement. The scene was - the leaders of the opposition condemning the Lord's disciples because they did not practice "the tradition of the elders," (verse 3). The subjects of this pronouncement are those men, the scribes and Pharisees who came from Jerusalem to watch and judge. Jesus called them "hypocrites" and used the Word of God (Isaiah 29) to expose their attitude and agenda. They did not respect and uphold the divine statues of the Levitical system (the law of Moses). They laid aside the commandments of God to write their own creed. When they saw the Lord's disciples disregarding their creed (human religious legislation), they "found fault," (verse 2). This is the scene and the subjects of the passage.
According to the tradition upheld by these men - Jewish men and women were required to wash and eat in their prescribed manner. Their "test of fellowship" could be expressed this way: If you eat the food we legislate, in the way we legislate, washing your hands the way we legislate, you will be considered worthy of fellowship (sound, orthodox).
Now the heart of the matter is - Jesus didn't conform to that, nor demand that His men conform. Jesus said: What defiles is the sin that comes from your heart, not the food you put into your stomach or the way you wash your hands!
Jesus is not telling anybody that it doesn't matter what you eat or drink. And He is not teaching against washing your hands. He is answering the external, carnal legalism of the scribes and Pharisees, who wrote their own creed and used it to judge, condemn and exclude.
The point is, purity in life is not about following the religious traditions of men.
You do not become pure and right by making yourself a slave to someone who holds a 'blood curse' over you, which is a form of satanic voodoo. Purity in life and fellowship with God depends upon the presence of God in your heart, and the resulting obedience to Him.
These religious legislators (and there are 'Christian' ones) would talk about God and do "religious" things to be seen of men, but Jesus used the word of the Isaiah to expose them: "...their heart is far from me."
Purity in your life and fellowship with God depends upon having God in your heart, and responding with the allegiance of your life - seeing the forgiveness offered in Christ, then living under His rule. The creeds and rituals written and enforced by men offer "no value against the indulgence of the flesh," (see Col. 2:20-23).
In time, a man-centred creed receives more honor than the actual words of God, taking the form of threats and imprecations to cause fear.
In time, a man-centred creed receives more honor than the actual words of God, taking the form of threats and imprecations to cause fear.
One makes the Word of God of no effect through such un-Christlike behaviour. Jesus said, if you want to be concerned about things that defile - look into your hearts rather than external philosophies or other religious practices, for the cause of real impurity: adultery, fornication, murder, stealing, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, licentiousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride and foolishness. "All these things come from within and defile a man." It is man's heart that needs washing.
What does this mean to you? It means that fear, lip-service, condescension and rules may put you into fellowship with men - but not God.
What does this mean to you? It means that fear, lip-service, condescension and rules may put you into fellowship with men - but not God.
Man-made rules may protect you from the condemnation of "religious police," but cannot protect you from the evils that come from the heart. A born-again, blood-bought believer must not be intimidated by the doctrines and commandments of men. We must honor God without 'superstition' and only with the heart, lips and life.
QUOTE (happy2Bfree @ May 7 2008, 04:49 AM)
Voice....
I got your message. My answer is....your wrong....and I won't. I don't understand (crying). I'm so tired of crying over the things you say.
If you want me to agree to Kabbalah and think its just fine to practice it, I can't. I have to answer to G-d one day....and I think the truth should be spoken in love.
The church fathers you quoted were anti-semetic...no doubt. But I am not. I would think after all the conversations we have had....the one thing that you should know about me is that.
If you don't know that by now....you never will know me.
And I'm so sad about that Voice. You pick and choose what you want to believe about me.....and all the time its the worst things you can imagine.
You always think the worst of me. (crying) And I'm so tired of being hurt by you.
Just forget that I posted anything in this thread. I'm going to delete my posts.
Shalom
C
I got your message. My answer is....your wrong....and I won't. I don't understand (crying). I'm so tired of crying over the things you say.
If you want me to agree to Kabbalah and think its just fine to practice it, I can't. I have to answer to G-d one day....and I think the truth should be spoken in love.
The church fathers you quoted were anti-semetic...no doubt. But I am not. I would think after all the conversations we have had....the one thing that you should know about me is that.
If you don't know that by now....you never will know me.
And I'm so sad about that Voice. You pick and choose what you want to believe about me.....and all the time its the worst things you can imagine.
You always think the worst of me. (crying) And I'm so tired of being hurt by you.
Just forget that I posted anything in this thread. I'm going to delete my posts.
Shalom
C
QUOTE
If you want me to agree to Kabbalah and think its just fine to practice it, I can't. I have to answer to G-d one day....and I think the truth should be spoken in love.
was never implied or suggestedwhole post is fallacious
QUOTE (happy2Bfree @ May 7 2008, 04:49 AM)
Voice....
I got your message. My answer is....your wrong....and I won't. I don't understand (crying). I'm so tired of crying over the things you say.
If you want me to agree to Kabbalah and think its just fine to practice it, I can't. I have to answer to G-d one day....and I think the truth should be spoken in love.
The church fathers you quoted were anti-semetic...no doubt. But I am not. I would think after all the conversations we have had....the one thing that you should know about me is that.
If you don't know that by now....you never will know me.
And I'm so sad about that Voice. You pick and choose what you want to believe about me.....and all the time its the worst things you can imagine.
You always think the worst of me. (crying) And I'm so tired of being hurt by you.
Just forget that I posted anything in this thread. I'm going to delete my posts.
Shalom
C
I got your message. My answer is....your wrong....and I won't. I don't understand (crying). I'm so tired of crying over the things you say.
If you want me to agree to Kabbalah and think its just fine to practice it, I can't. I have to answer to G-d one day....and I think the truth should be spoken in love.
The church fathers you quoted were anti-semetic...no doubt. But I am not. I would think after all the conversations we have had....the one thing that you should know about me is that.
If you don't know that by now....you never will know me.
And I'm so sad about that Voice. You pick and choose what you want to believe about me.....and all the time its the worst things you can imagine.
You always think the worst of me. (crying) And I'm so tired of being hurt by you.
Just forget that I posted anything in this thread. I'm going to delete my posts.
Shalom
C
QUOTE
If you want me to agree to Kabbalah and think its just fine to practice it, I can't. I have to answer to G-d one day....and I think the truth should be spoken in love.
was never implied or suggestedwhole post is fallacious
Are you making a case for practicing Kaballah?
QUOTE (Jack777 @ May 9 2008, 10:51 AM)
Are you making a case for practicing Kaballah?
are you making a case for making a case ....
peruse the topic title - if in disagreement with the author say so - the topic
is for interest only and perhaps you will meet a Kabbalist and could witness
to him some day using what you have learned here
Shall you deny the Lord Jesus this day?
http://christianwords.wordpress.com/2007/10/27/shall-you-deny-the-lord-jesus-this-day/
"Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, That this night, before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice"
Matthew 26:34
Here in this verse we find Jesus telling the apostle Peter that he was going to deny him, Not once but three times in the space of a night. Just imagine for a moment how Peter must have felt being told this by the Lord Jesus, I can only imagine the kind of hurt he must have experienced yet although he believed & trusted in Jesus he could not see that what was said to him could ever happen, as we read in the next verse,
"Peter said unto him, Though I should die with thee, yet will I not deny thee. Likewise also said all the disciples"
Peter truly believed in Jesus & that if he was to have died with him he would not deny him. How very wrong he was. It had to happen.
Later we find in the chapter verses 69-75 how Christ's words were fulfilled in the actions of Peter,
"Now Peter sat without in the palace: and a damsel came unto him, saying, Thou also wast with Jesus of Galilee But he denied before them all, saying, I know not what thou sayest. And when he was gone out into the porch, another maid saw him, and said unto them that were there, This fellow was also with Jesus of Nazareth And again he denied with an oath, I do not know the man. And after a while came unto him they that stood by, and said to Peter, Surely thou also art one of them; for thy speech betrayeth thee Then began he to curse and to swear, saying, I know not the man. And immediately the cock crew And Peter remembered the word of Jesus, which said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice. And he went out, and wept bitterly"
This for me is such a sorrowful image, Jesus has been betrayed & has been taken into custody to face trial & peter is already feeling the pain of what has happened in that night, He has forgotten Christ's words to him though & it is only when the cock crew that it came flooding back in an instant. He, I can only imagine must have felt like he had betrayed Jesus himself, Pain and sorrow shooting through his whole body.
Are you friend offended by Jesus? Will you flee from him & hide among other men?
As Christian's we cannot succumb to the world no matter the persecution we face, we must not turn our backs on the one who came into this world to save us, to save US, sinners rotten to the core with the desires & pleasures of this filthy world we have created.
We remember the Commandment "Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy" How many of us really keep the Lord's day Holy? By not doing so we are denying Christ.
When in someone's presence who is not a Christian, Have you dropped a word in to let them know you are one of the Lord's people & testified of the work He has done in your life? If not, it is denying Christ.
As we read in proverbs 15:23 "a word spoken in due season, how good is it" and also in 25:11 "A word fitly spoken is like apples of gold in pictures of silver"
There are many ways in which we deny Christ friend.
"Is the cock crowing in your life?"
"Are you denying the one who died so that we would live?"
"Is the guilt of denial weighing heavy on your heart?"
Help is at hand friends, The lord Jesus asks that we repent for our sins & we shall be saved, Do it now before your chance is gone. Peter probably thought he could not make up for his denial but as we now know he had a second chance with Jesus……….
He took that chance, Will you?
God Bless
Voice....
When I said this...
You know what I am refering to. And its not fallacious.
Its not the first time you have posted something like that to me. And I know my heart. I don't hate in the way you say. I took what you sent to me to God. I cried several times about it as I prayed. I have peace with the Lord Voice. He is not angry with me.
When I said this...
QUOTE
And I'm so sad about that Voice. You pick and choose what you want to believe about me.....and all the time its the worst things you can imagine.
You know what I am refering to. And its not fallacious.
Its not the first time you have posted something like that to me. And I know my heart. I don't hate in the way you say. I took what you sent to me to God. I cried several times about it as I prayed. I have peace with the Lord Voice. He is not angry with me.
QUOTE (happy2Bfree @ May 9 2008, 12:28 PM)
Voice....
When I said this...
You know what I am refering to. And its not fallacious.
Its not the first time you have posted something like that to me. And I know my heart. I don't hate in the way you say. I took what you sent to me to God. I cried several times about it as I prayed. I have peace with the Lord Voice. He is not angry with me.
When I said this...
QUOTE
And I'm so sad about that Voice. You pick and choose what you want to believe about me.....and all the time its the worst things you can imagine.
You know what I am refering to. And its not fallacious.
Its not the first time you have posted something like that to me. And I know my heart. I don't hate in the way you say. I took what you sent to me to God. I cried several times about it as I prayed. I have peace with the Lord Voice. He is not angry with me.
"And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace."—Luke 7:50.
I see. Thanks.
Kabbalah is an attempt on the part of some Jewish men and women, to seek the God of Israel through mystical and Gnostic means. For many centuries it was well outside normative Judaism, although today it has permeated into Orthodox Judaism and also claims many 'secular' Jewish (and Gentile) adherents. Kabbalah is a counterfeit of Satan. The main reason for this is that man is seen as having to restore the fallen world by his efforts which will bring about the coming of Messiah. Also, the 'way' to God is accomplished through rigorous fasting and spiritual disciplines that are outside the realm of the Bible. This is common to most false religions that seek union with the Divine. (In this article, all italics have been added by me for emphasis.)
David Stern writes that the Hasidim and the Kabbalists, impatient for Messiah and redemption, force His Hand by '...years of ruthless mortification of their flesh. In each case, of course, they were prevented, by death, by Satan, or by some sin which they committed'1 of compelling Messiah to come:
'In one of these legends...the 14th century Rabbi Joseph Della Reina ('of the Queen') attempts, with the help of the Prophet Elijah, to destroy Satan (disguised as a black dog), using God's secret names. But he doesn't follow Elijah's instructions to the letter and thus fails in his task. Later he goes astray, having illicit sexual relations with none other than the Queen of France (hence his name), and ultimately commits suicide.'2
We have serious biblical problems with the rabbi 'using God's secret names to destroy Satan' and the meeting with Elijah to help him do so. This, aside from the fact that he committed suicide. Trying to force God's Hand or to destroy Satan is pride masquerading in religious clothing.
One must ask, 'If Kabbalah were really of Yahveh, the God of Israel, than why didn't the rabbi know or come to find out about Yeshua, the Redeemer of Israel?' And why hasn't anyone within Kabbalah proclaimed in the last 2,000 years, that Yeshua is the Messiah, if they actually make contact with the God of Israel?
Another rabbi of fame and stature within Hasidic and Kabbalistic circles is Rabbi Nachman of Bratslav (1772-1811). The following story is attributed to him:
'...Satan, disguised as a merchant, prevents a rabbi's son from meeting with a great tzaddik (holy man). In the end the son dies. The rabbi again encounters the merchant, who tells him, 'Now I have dispatched your son... had he and the tzaddik met and joined forces, the Messiah would have come.'
Kabbalah is a mixture of demonic activity, pagan philosophy, gnosticism and the Hebrew Bible. Kabbalah is,
'The mystical religious stream in Judaism... In all periods it was influenced by foreign spiritual currents, such as gnosticism and neoplatonism3...'4
'A distinction was usually made between theoretical and practical Kabbalah; the latter consisted of the use of Divine or Holy Names, the permutation and combination of Hebrew letters, magical formulae (amulets), etc. for healing the sick and other practical purposes and also for eschatological and genuinely mystical ends (hastening the advent of the messiah, inducing states of mystical or ecstatic experience, etc.).5
The use of Divine names 'to get to God' is not the Way of Yahveh. The fruit of this is seen in that magic and amulets are used. This is sin as it goes against Yahveh's Word in His Torah (Deut. 18:10, 14). These Jewish mystics opened a spiritual door, but not one you want to go through. Notice too the eclectic 6 and over-arching nature of it ('In all periods it was influenced by foreign spiritual currents...'). What could Kabbalah have picked up from pagan mysticism and philosophy (about Creation, etc.), outside of Israel and the Word of Yahveh?
Gnosticism 7 is a 'secret knowing' designed to entice those into a 'mystery religion' where the doing of certain religious things (asceticism, 'spiritual disciplines, etc.), is 'the way to contact the god' or 'the way to appease the god for sin and guilt' and or 'the way to eternal life.' Kabbalah holds out the same incentive. Kabbalah is nothing more than gnosticism with a Jewish twist to it.
Notice too, if they were really 'in touch' with Yahveh, there would be no need to 'hasten the advent of Messiah', as they would declare that Yeshua came and will come again. So who is it that they are 'in touch' with?
'Jewish religion is in principle opposed to magic because the ultimate source of everything is the absolutely free and sovereign will of God which can never be coerced. The only proper attitude is therefore prayer...'8
Sorcery and magic are prohibited by the Bible (Exod. 22:17) but the Talmud, while proscribing the practice as heathenish, admits its efficacy. Members of the Sanhedrin were supposed to have had a thorough knowledge of magic and sorcery, and legends are told of rabbis using 'white' magic. Healing by magic is condemned only when specifically pagan or idolatrous. The magic of names (Divine names, Tetragrammaton, names of angels, permutations and combinations of Hebrew letters or scriptural quotations), whether in amulets or spoken formulas, flourished at all times but particularly under the influence of Kabbalah... Some scholars believe that the tephillin and mezuzah originated as amulets.'9
The amulet is an object 'worn as a charm against evil, consisting usually of sacred letters or symbols: names of angels or demons are often written in geometric patters, etc. Such charms were common in the ancient Middle East... In the Talmudic and gaonic periods, amulets were widely worn and their use was recognized, though not specifically approved, by rabbis. With the development of the later Kabbalah and its insistence on the efficacy of combinations of letters of the Divine names, the vogue of amulets became universal, and their preparation was regarded as a rabbinic function.'10
'The first signs of Jewish mysticism can be fond in the 1st century while the study of the Dead Sea Scrolls may date knowledge on the subject even earlier.'11 'Jewish mysticism' was picked up in Babylon. It was Babylonian paganism (the basis for gnosticism), that some Jewish men living in Babylon adopted and adapted to the Hebrew Bible (using the Bible for its Names and numbers, etc.), giving Babylonian gnosticism its 'Jewish clothes.' Some of these 'clothes' came because of the need of the Jewish People:
'The religious syncretism (the mingling and fusion of various oriental religions, mythologies, semi-philosophical notions, etc.) of the period, as well as the messianic speculations encouraged by the national and political disasters in Palestine (sic) fostered a special kind of interest in the Bible which stressed its eschatological and mystical tendencies.'12
Note well the different religious and secular things that make up Kabbalah. This cannot be of the God of Israel who desires purity and wholeness and whose Word is Truth. Part of the enticement of Kabbalah is the goal of being in the Presence of God. This is a godly desire. But the way they 'get there' is not, devising and using 'secret names' of God, etc.
'Closed circles from among the pupils of Rabbi Yohanan ben Zakai (1st-2nd century), concerned themselves with the mysteries of Creation and the nature of the Divine Throne or 'Chariot... These gnosticising types of study were termed Pardes.'13
'Later writings depict seven celestial palaces or worlds populated by angels praising and serving the deity; in the last or seventh palace, the throne of Divine glory rises. Prepared by a rigorous mystical discipline, and sanctified though fasting and religious ecstasy, the adepts or, as they were called 'viewers of the Merkavah' (Divine chariot), experienced the ascent of their soul though worlds and heavens, and amid lurking dangers, from palace to palace, until they reached the point where they beheld the radiance of the Divine presence and the divine throne. To the soul which achieves this vision are revealed the secrets of creation, the ways of the angels, and the date of Redemption and of the advent of the Messiah.'14
The Lord tells us in His Word that there are mysteries that we should not concern ourselves with. Even the traditional Rabbis caution us to not get too involved with four things: the ancient past and the distant future; the things above and the things below. Why not? Because we can only go around and around in circles with them. On the other hand, we have been given what to do by Yahveh and He tells us not to be concerned with the 'mysteries' or 'secrets' of Creation, His Name, etc:
'The secret things belong to Yahveh our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our sons forever, that we may observe all the words of this Law.' (Deut. 29:29)
It is the Word of God that we are to pursue and meditate on and not to get entangled with the 'spiritual' things of darkness that masquerade as Light. As 2nd Cor. 11:14 says, 'No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of Light.' We have our 'contact' with the Holy One through His Son's Sacrificial Blood and His Holy Spirit. But in Kabbalah, there is a schematic, philosophical system of ten levels, known as sephirot, that one must climb in order to achieve this revelation.
The goal for the Kabbalists of Gerona (Spain in the 13th century) was 'to achieve communion wth God through concentration in prayer and the mediation of the sephirot.'15 The meditation of the sepher yetzirah uses the 'creative force of the letters of the Hebrew alphabet and propounds the doctrine of ten sephirot though which the world came into being.'16
'The climax of Spanish kabbalism was the appearance of the Zohar,17 connected with Moses de Leon (d. 1305). All later kabbalistic systems derived from the Zohar, which teaches the self-manifestation or revelation of God through the Divine sephirot which He emanated. En-soph, the transcendent God, remains forever beyond the grasp of the human mind which can only comprehend the sephirot.'18
'After death, the human soul is judged and allotted to paradise, hell or transmigration in human or animal form in order to make restitution and be cleansed. The Zohar traces all Kabbalah to the Pentateuch, interpreting every word or letter mystically.'19
Transmigration is not found in the Word of God but in many false religions of the world whose philosophy states that if you don't make it the first time around, you get to try it again. It's also known as reincarnation.
'Man must restore the damage' (of fallen Creation), 'by releasing the holy sparks from defilement (Tikkun). The complete restoration will lead to redemption and the advent of the Messiah. Tikkun is accomplished by observance of the commandments, study of the Torah and mystic mediation.20
The idea that Man can and must 'restore the damage' of sin is totally foreign to the Word of God. Only God can redeem Man from his fallen and sinful state and He has done this in Messiah Yeshua. Anyone who thinks that they can help God do this, or do it for God is deceived.
Alfred Edersheim writes, '...neither Eastern mystical Judaism, nor the philosophy of Philo, could admit of any direct contact between God and creation. The Kabbalah solved the difficulty by their Sephiroth, or emanations from God, through which this contact was ultimately brought about, and of which the En-soph, or crown, was the spring'21 (or first of the ten emanations that man could 'climb' like a ladder to actually 'get to God.')
This is totally foreign to the Scriptures. Yahveh has made it possible for both Jew and Gentile 'to make contact' with Him here on earth, and be received into His Glory on the Day of Judgment, not by any 'works' (fasting, etc.), of man, but by His Grace, Mercy and Love.
Kabbalism was able to meld into main line Orthodox Judaism through Hasidism. At first, in the 18th and 19th centuries, the Orthodox vehemently rejected the Hasidic teaching that anyone could know God (verses the Orthodox tenet that only the learned Rabbis could interpret the Word and give advice and know God.
'...kabbalism was absorbed into the doctrine of Hasidism which popularized the mystic teachings...'22 As Hasidism grew, it began to meld with the Orthodox, adopting some of their ways and giving the Orthodox much of its teachings and symbols. Kabbalah means, 'to hand down'23 or 'that which has been received'24 from the verb 'kibel'. There is no doubt as to its 'ancientness' and that it has 'come down' to us. There is also no question that Kabbalah is an 'alternative' form of religion. As such, it runs totally contrary to the Word of God, both written and Alive. It is just another of many satanic 'voices' calling for the souls of Jewish men and women. It also has become aceptable within some Messianic Jewish congregations. More subtle than all the beasts of the field is the Serpent.
'Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the Blood of Yeshua, by a new and living way, which He has consecrated for us, through the Veil, that is to say, His flesh and having a High Priest over the House of God, let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure Water. Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for He is faithful that promised), and let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: (Hebrews 10:19-24)
END NOTES
Dr. David H. Stern, Jewish New Covenant Commentary (Clarksville, MD: Jewish New Covenant Publications, 1992), p. 766. <li>Ibid. Taken from The Messiah Texts by Raphael Patai, p. 68-73. <li>J. M. Sinclair, General Consultant, Diana Treffry, Editorial Director, Collins English Dictionary, Fourth Edition (Glasgow, Scotland: HarperCollins Publishers, 1998), p. 1042. Neoplatonism: 'a philosophical system which was first developed in the 3rd century AD as a synthesis of Platonic, Pythagorean and Aristotelian elements, and which, although originally opposed to Christianity, later incorporated it. It dominated European thought until the 13th century and re-emerged during the Renaissance. <li>Geoffrey Wigoder, Editor in Chief, The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia, 7th Edition (New York-Oxford: Facts on File, 1990), p. 535. <li>Ibid. <li>Collins English Dictionary, p. 490. Eclectic: 'selecting what seems best from various styles, doctrines, ideas, methods, etc.' <li>Ibid. p. 656. Gnosticism: '...characterized by a belief in gnosis, through which the spiritual element in man could be released from its bondage in matter..' gnosis: ''supposedly revealed knowledge of various spiritual truths, especially that said to have been posses by ancient Gnostics..' <li>The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia, p. 619. Listed under 'magic'. <li>Ibid. <li>The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia, p. 48. Listed under 'amulets'. <li>The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia, p. 535. <li>The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia, p. 535. <li>Ibid. <li>Ibid. <li>Ibid. p. 536. <li>Ibid. <li>The Zohar is to the kabbalist what the Bible is to a follower of Yeshua. <li>The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia, p. 536. <li>Ibid. p. 537. <li>Ibid. <li>Alfred Edersheim, The Life and Times of Jesus The Messiah (Peabody, MA: Hendrickson Publishers, 2000), p. 31. <li>The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia, p. 537. <li>The Life and Times of Jesus The Messiah, p. 31. <li>Ibid. p. 71. <li>
http://www.seedofabraham.net/kabbalah.html
addendum:
Trinity and Tree of Life
An mysterious and difficult dogmatic concept of Christianity has clear paralell with subject of central importance inside Jewish Kabbalah - "three lines" of the soul (Tree of Life or Shalosh Kavim in hebrew). There is no other more important spiritual triad inside Kabbalah and it's naming is almost the same as in Christian Trinity. Also it is a concept of Shilush in Messianic Jewish Theology. There are a lot of allegories of the Tree of Life, i.e. 3 or 2 mystical lines or kavim (cinnor and cinnorot too) in logia. This subject is very important for spiritual practice in Kabbalah. The same aspect could be found through concept of 3 mystical Godhead personalities in Christianity as Trinity.
http://en.allexperts.com/e/t/tr/trinity.htm
David Stern writes that the Hasidim and the Kabbalists, impatient for Messiah and redemption, force His Hand by '...years of ruthless mortification of their flesh. In each case, of course, they were prevented, by death, by Satan, or by some sin which they committed'1 of compelling Messiah to come:
'In one of these legends...the 14th century Rabbi Joseph Della Reina ('of the Queen') attempts, with the help of the Prophet Elijah, to destroy Satan (disguised as a black dog), using God's secret names. But he doesn't follow Elijah's instructions to the letter and thus fails in his task. Later he goes astray, having illicit sexual relations with none other than the Queen of France (hence his name), and ultimately commits suicide.'2
We have serious biblical problems with the rabbi 'using God's secret names to destroy Satan' and the meeting with Elijah to help him do so. This, aside from the fact that he committed suicide. Trying to force God's Hand or to destroy Satan is pride masquerading in religious clothing.
One must ask, 'If Kabbalah were really of Yahveh, the God of Israel, than why didn't the rabbi know or come to find out about Yeshua, the Redeemer of Israel?' And why hasn't anyone within Kabbalah proclaimed in the last 2,000 years, that Yeshua is the Messiah, if they actually make contact with the God of Israel?
Another rabbi of fame and stature within Hasidic and Kabbalistic circles is Rabbi Nachman of Bratslav (1772-1811). The following story is attributed to him:
'...Satan, disguised as a merchant, prevents a rabbi's son from meeting with a great tzaddik (holy man). In the end the son dies. The rabbi again encounters the merchant, who tells him, 'Now I have dispatched your son... had he and the tzaddik met and joined forces, the Messiah would have come.'
Kabbalah is a mixture of demonic activity, pagan philosophy, gnosticism and the Hebrew Bible. Kabbalah is,
'The mystical religious stream in Judaism... In all periods it was influenced by foreign spiritual currents, such as gnosticism and neoplatonism3...'4
'A distinction was usually made between theoretical and practical Kabbalah; the latter consisted of the use of Divine or Holy Names, the permutation and combination of Hebrew letters, magical formulae (amulets), etc. for healing the sick and other practical purposes and also for eschatological and genuinely mystical ends (hastening the advent of the messiah, inducing states of mystical or ecstatic experience, etc.).5
The use of Divine names 'to get to God' is not the Way of Yahveh. The fruit of this is seen in that magic and amulets are used. This is sin as it goes against Yahveh's Word in His Torah (Deut. 18:10, 14). These Jewish mystics opened a spiritual door, but not one you want to go through. Notice too the eclectic 6 and over-arching nature of it ('In all periods it was influenced by foreign spiritual currents...'). What could Kabbalah have picked up from pagan mysticism and philosophy (about Creation, etc.), outside of Israel and the Word of Yahveh?
Gnosticism 7 is a 'secret knowing' designed to entice those into a 'mystery religion' where the doing of certain religious things (asceticism, 'spiritual disciplines, etc.), is 'the way to contact the god' or 'the way to appease the god for sin and guilt' and or 'the way to eternal life.' Kabbalah holds out the same incentive. Kabbalah is nothing more than gnosticism with a Jewish twist to it.
Notice too, if they were really 'in touch' with Yahveh, there would be no need to 'hasten the advent of Messiah', as they would declare that Yeshua came and will come again. So who is it that they are 'in touch' with?
'Jewish religion is in principle opposed to magic because the ultimate source of everything is the absolutely free and sovereign will of God which can never be coerced. The only proper attitude is therefore prayer...'8
Sorcery and magic are prohibited by the Bible (Exod. 22:17) but the Talmud, while proscribing the practice as heathenish, admits its efficacy. Members of the Sanhedrin were supposed to have had a thorough knowledge of magic and sorcery, and legends are told of rabbis using 'white' magic. Healing by magic is condemned only when specifically pagan or idolatrous. The magic of names (Divine names, Tetragrammaton, names of angels, permutations and combinations of Hebrew letters or scriptural quotations), whether in amulets or spoken formulas, flourished at all times but particularly under the influence of Kabbalah... Some scholars believe that the tephillin and mezuzah originated as amulets.'9
The amulet is an object 'worn as a charm against evil, consisting usually of sacred letters or symbols: names of angels or demons are often written in geometric patters, etc. Such charms were common in the ancient Middle East... In the Talmudic and gaonic periods, amulets were widely worn and their use was recognized, though not specifically approved, by rabbis. With the development of the later Kabbalah and its insistence on the efficacy of combinations of letters of the Divine names, the vogue of amulets became universal, and their preparation was regarded as a rabbinic function.'10
'The first signs of Jewish mysticism can be fond in the 1st century while the study of the Dead Sea Scrolls may date knowledge on the subject even earlier.'11 'Jewish mysticism' was picked up in Babylon. It was Babylonian paganism (the basis for gnosticism), that some Jewish men living in Babylon adopted and adapted to the Hebrew Bible (using the Bible for its Names and numbers, etc.), giving Babylonian gnosticism its 'Jewish clothes.' Some of these 'clothes' came because of the need of the Jewish People:
'The religious syncretism (the mingling and fusion of various oriental religions, mythologies, semi-philosophical notions, etc.) of the period, as well as the messianic speculations encouraged by the national and political disasters in Palestine (sic) fostered a special kind of interest in the Bible which stressed its eschatological and mystical tendencies.'12
Note well the different religious and secular things that make up Kabbalah. This cannot be of the God of Israel who desires purity and wholeness and whose Word is Truth. Part of the enticement of Kabbalah is the goal of being in the Presence of God. This is a godly desire. But the way they 'get there' is not, devising and using 'secret names' of God, etc.
'Closed circles from among the pupils of Rabbi Yohanan ben Zakai (1st-2nd century), concerned themselves with the mysteries of Creation and the nature of the Divine Throne or 'Chariot... These gnosticising types of study were termed Pardes.'13
'Later writings depict seven celestial palaces or worlds populated by angels praising and serving the deity; in the last or seventh palace, the throne of Divine glory rises. Prepared by a rigorous mystical discipline, and sanctified though fasting and religious ecstasy, the adepts or, as they were called 'viewers of the Merkavah' (Divine chariot), experienced the ascent of their soul though worlds and heavens, and amid lurking dangers, from palace to palace, until they reached the point where they beheld the radiance of the Divine presence and the divine throne. To the soul which achieves this vision are revealed the secrets of creation, the ways of the angels, and the date of Redemption and of the advent of the Messiah.'14
The Lord tells us in His Word that there are mysteries that we should not concern ourselves with. Even the traditional Rabbis caution us to not get too involved with four things: the ancient past and the distant future; the things above and the things below. Why not? Because we can only go around and around in circles with them. On the other hand, we have been given what to do by Yahveh and He tells us not to be concerned with the 'mysteries' or 'secrets' of Creation, His Name, etc:
'The secret things belong to Yahveh our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our sons forever, that we may observe all the words of this Law.' (Deut. 29:29)
It is the Word of God that we are to pursue and meditate on and not to get entangled with the 'spiritual' things of darkness that masquerade as Light. As 2nd Cor. 11:14 says, 'No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of Light.' We have our 'contact' with the Holy One through His Son's Sacrificial Blood and His Holy Spirit. But in Kabbalah, there is a schematic, philosophical system of ten levels, known as sephirot, that one must climb in order to achieve this revelation.
The goal for the Kabbalists of Gerona (Spain in the 13th century) was 'to achieve communion wth God through concentration in prayer and the mediation of the sephirot.'15 The meditation of the sepher yetzirah uses the 'creative force of the letters of the Hebrew alphabet and propounds the doctrine of ten sephirot though which the world came into being.'16
'The climax of Spanish kabbalism was the appearance of the Zohar,17 connected with Moses de Leon (d. 1305). All later kabbalistic systems derived from the Zohar, which teaches the self-manifestation or revelation of God through the Divine sephirot which He emanated. En-soph, the transcendent God, remains forever beyond the grasp of the human mind which can only comprehend the sephirot.'18
'After death, the human soul is judged and allotted to paradise, hell or transmigration in human or animal form in order to make restitution and be cleansed. The Zohar traces all Kabbalah to the Pentateuch, interpreting every word or letter mystically.'19
Transmigration is not found in the Word of God but in many false religions of the world whose philosophy states that if you don't make it the first time around, you get to try it again. It's also known as reincarnation.
'Man must restore the damage' (of fallen Creation), 'by releasing the holy sparks from defilement (Tikkun). The complete restoration will lead to redemption and the advent of the Messiah. Tikkun is accomplished by observance of the commandments, study of the Torah and mystic mediation.20
The idea that Man can and must 'restore the damage' of sin is totally foreign to the Word of God. Only God can redeem Man from his fallen and sinful state and He has done this in Messiah Yeshua. Anyone who thinks that they can help God do this, or do it for God is deceived.
Alfred Edersheim writes, '...neither Eastern mystical Judaism, nor the philosophy of Philo, could admit of any direct contact between God and creation. The Kabbalah solved the difficulty by their Sephiroth, or emanations from God, through which this contact was ultimately brought about, and of which the En-soph, or crown, was the spring'21 (or first of the ten emanations that man could 'climb' like a ladder to actually 'get to God.')
This is totally foreign to the Scriptures. Yahveh has made it possible for both Jew and Gentile 'to make contact' with Him here on earth, and be received into His Glory on the Day of Judgment, not by any 'works' (fasting, etc.), of man, but by His Grace, Mercy and Love.
Kabbalism was able to meld into main line Orthodox Judaism through Hasidism. At first, in the 18th and 19th centuries, the Orthodox vehemently rejected the Hasidic teaching that anyone could know God (verses the Orthodox tenet that only the learned Rabbis could interpret the Word and give advice and know God.
'...kabbalism was absorbed into the doctrine of Hasidism which popularized the mystic teachings...'22 As Hasidism grew, it began to meld with the Orthodox, adopting some of their ways and giving the Orthodox much of its teachings and symbols. Kabbalah means, 'to hand down'23 or 'that which has been received'24 from the verb 'kibel'. There is no doubt as to its 'ancientness' and that it has 'come down' to us. There is also no question that Kabbalah is an 'alternative' form of religion. As such, it runs totally contrary to the Word of God, both written and Alive. It is just another of many satanic 'voices' calling for the souls of Jewish men and women. It also has become aceptable within some Messianic Jewish congregations. More subtle than all the beasts of the field is the Serpent.
'Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the Blood of Yeshua, by a new and living way, which He has consecrated for us, through the Veil, that is to say, His flesh and having a High Priest over the House of God, let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure Water. Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for He is faithful that promised), and let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: (Hebrews 10:19-24)
END NOTES
Dr. David H. Stern, Jewish New Covenant Commentary (Clarksville, MD: Jewish New Covenant Publications, 1992), p. 766. <li>Ibid. Taken from The Messiah Texts by Raphael Patai, p. 68-73. <li>J. M. Sinclair, General Consultant, Diana Treffry, Editorial Director, Collins English Dictionary, Fourth Edition (Glasgow, Scotland: HarperCollins Publishers, 1998), p. 1042. Neoplatonism: 'a philosophical system which was first developed in the 3rd century AD as a synthesis of Platonic, Pythagorean and Aristotelian elements, and which, although originally opposed to Christianity, later incorporated it. It dominated European thought until the 13th century and re-emerged during the Renaissance. <li>Geoffrey Wigoder, Editor in Chief, The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia, 7th Edition (New York-Oxford: Facts on File, 1990), p. 535. <li>Ibid. <li>Collins English Dictionary, p. 490. Eclectic: 'selecting what seems best from various styles, doctrines, ideas, methods, etc.' <li>Ibid. p. 656. Gnosticism: '...characterized by a belief in gnosis, through which the spiritual element in man could be released from its bondage in matter..' gnosis: ''supposedly revealed knowledge of various spiritual truths, especially that said to have been posses by ancient Gnostics..' <li>The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia, p. 619. Listed under 'magic'. <li>Ibid. <li>The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia, p. 48. Listed under 'amulets'. <li>The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia, p. 535. <li>The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia, p. 535. <li>Ibid. <li>Ibid. <li>Ibid. p. 536. <li>Ibid. <li>The Zohar is to the kabbalist what the Bible is to a follower of Yeshua. <li>The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia, p. 536. <li>Ibid. p. 537. <li>Ibid. <li>Alfred Edersheim, The Life and Times of Jesus The Messiah (Peabody, MA: Hendrickson Publishers, 2000), p. 31. <li>The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia, p. 537. <li>The Life and Times of Jesus The Messiah, p. 31. <li>Ibid. p. 71. <li>
http://www.seedofabraham.net/kabbalah.html
addendum:
Trinity and Tree of Life
An mysterious and difficult dogmatic concept of Christianity has clear paralell with subject of central importance inside Jewish Kabbalah - "three lines" of the soul (Tree of Life or Shalosh Kavim in hebrew). There is no other more important spiritual triad inside Kabbalah and it's naming is almost the same as in Christian Trinity. Also it is a concept of Shilush in Messianic Jewish Theology. There are a lot of allegories of the Tree of Life, i.e. 3 or 2 mystical lines or kavim (cinnor and cinnorot too) in logia. This subject is very important for spiritual practice in Kabbalah. The same aspect could be found through concept of 3 mystical Godhead personalities in Christianity as Trinity.
http://en.allexperts.com/e/t/tr/trinity.htm
I read Against Heresies several years ago and was struck by the fact it was something that needed to be written. It seems there are new twists from time to time and some receive deceit and lies independently that are very similar. I was also struck by the fact that Gnostocism or some variation would be recognized in the new world religion if any Christians are left. Gnosticism and Kabbalah are endless journies leading those interested away from God. They lead people into leaning on their own understanding. Routinized to satisfying the Natural Man on a pseudo-intellectual basis, I suspect individuals tend to blither and are finally completely hardened to hearing God whisper and following the tutoring of the Holy Spirit. Refusal to accept the help of God and His Holy Spirit makes recognizing Jesus near impossible. What did happen in the early centuries of the Church was persecution.
Seeking God through philosophical systems that emanate from Satan is idiotic.
Seeking God through philosophical systems that emanate from Satan is idiotic.
QUOTE (Jack777 @ May 11 2008, 09:51 PM)
I read Against Heresies several years ago and was struck by the fact it was something that needed to be written. It seems there are new twists from time to time and some receive deceit and lies independently that are very similar. I was also struck by the fact that Gnostocism or some variation would be recognized in the new world religion if any Christians are left. Gnosticism and Kabbalah are endless journies leading those interested away from God. They lead people into leaning on their own understanding. Routinized to satisfying the Natural Man on a pseudo-intellectual basis, I suspect individuals tend to blither and are finally completely hardened to hearing God whisper and following the tutoring of the Holy Spirit. Refusal to accept the help of God and His Holy Spirit makes recognizing Jesus near impossible. What did happen in the early centuries of the Church was persecution.
Seeking God through philosophical systems that emanate from Satan is idiotic.
Seeking God through philosophical systems that emanate from Satan is idiotic.
And Jesus said, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do....
Luke 23:34
In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them.But now you also, put them all aside: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and abusive speech from your mouth.
Colossians 3:7,8
For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light: Ephesians 5:8
But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:8
And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise. Luke 10:37
Reading over all this makes my head hurt..... May I offer an alternative perspective?
We have indication (per the Bible) that God interacted with us in 3 forms (can't think of the best word..for a lack of better words):
1) The Father
2) The Son
3) The Holy Spirit (or for us Appalachian Americans: 'the holy ghost')
It makes since to me that an emphasis is put on the trinity as a way to point out there is no 'quad' (4) or 'pen' (5) or 'hex' (6) :
4) God the tree (nature)
5) God the animal (beast)
6) God the statue (idol)
.... That's how I work it out in my head.... Again, I believe God is very practical... It's us who confuses things.
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Kabbalah is an attempt on the part of some Jewish men and women, to seek the God of Israel through mystical and Gnostic means. For many centuries it was well outside normative Judaism, although today it has permeated into Orthodox Judaism and also claims many 'secular' Jewish (and Gentile) adherents.
In knowing this Voice...why do you continually use the gematria of numbers from Kabbalah...
to gain insight onto hidden things? Why calculate when the Holy Spirit it available to reveal what is necessary for you to know? l'm asking in sincerity.
QUOTE (Miki @ Jun 18 2008, 09:38 PM)
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Kabbalah is an attempt on the part of some Jewish men and women, to seek the God of Israel through mystical and Gnostic means. For many centuries it was well outside normative Judaism, although today it has permeated into Orthodox Judaism and also claims many 'secular' Jewish (and Gentile) adherents.
In knowing this Voice...why do you continually use the gematria of numbers from Kabbalah...
to gain insight onto hidden things? Why calculate when the Holy Spirit it available to reveal what is necessary for you to know? l'm asking in sincerity.
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In knowing this Voice...why do you continually use the gematria of numbers from Kabbalah...
to gain insight onto hidden things? Why calculate when the Holy Spirit it available to reveal what is necessary for you to know? l'm asking in sincerity.
to gain insight onto hidden things? Why calculate when the Holy Spirit it available to reveal what is necessary for you to know? l'm asking in sincerity.
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to gain insight onto hidden things? Why calculate when the Holy Spirit it available to reveal what is necessary for you to know?
these creative inferences are your own, not my own at all and never were implied by any posts
continually ? no, I only posted articles about gematria or asked the forum questions about gematria for their opinions - never made any conclusive statements about its efficacy - have not posted anything about gematria in quite a while in fact , but there are other posters on this forum who are knee - deep in it (bible numbers, gematria etc.) ... as you are well aware
find the posts with dates to substantiate your statements if you really desire to expend your energies on that sort of 'thing'
על כן בעזב כעת ראשית דבר המשיח נעבר אל השלמות ולא נשוב לשית יסודי התשובה ממעשי מות והאמונה באלהים׃
Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God. Hebrews 6:1
וכעללים אשר מקרוב נולדו התאוו לחלב השכלי והזך למען תגדלו בו׃
As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:
1 Peter 2:2
The eleven references plus some Greek references.
I would say this:
The argument over the "trinity" is really no issue at all. It is amazing how many mull over this makeup of the Lord. One can get the impression that He is composed of different parts when reading the scriptures, but at the same time one can also note that He is all of them. This stand off of who is right and who is wrong on this issue is very distracting and one of creating division for naught [except for satanic meddeling]. There are many other issues of greater significance that are totally over looked.
The Lord is a very complex being and He has unlimited capabilities and stature that are far above the human propensity to put Him in a box for observation. He can be God and an extended human part of Himself at the same time, and yet still be separate. He can and has manifested Himself in human form and also has many other spiritual dimensions of extensions of Himself. He is One being with extensions that He chooses to add to His composit. He is not actually a "He" in essence, but is a spirit being with no root gender. He has presented Himself to human kind in the form of a human, Jesus Christ. God is "One" and there is no other being like Him.
The arguement of "unitarian" or "trinitarian" understanding is very superficial and contrived by human limitations for the purpose of creating intentional division and organizational exclusitivity. There is nothing in the scriptures that gives direction for making this stand off an issue at all. It should be a non-issu
The argument over the "trinity" is really no issue at all. It is amazing how many mull over this makeup of the Lord. One can get the impression that He is composed of different parts when reading the scriptures, but at the same time one can also note that He is all of them. This stand off of who is right and who is wrong on this issue is very distracting and one of creating division for naught [except for satanic meddeling]. There are many other issues of greater significance that are totally over looked.
The Lord is a very complex being and He has unlimited capabilities and stature that are far above the human propensity to put Him in a box for observation. He can be God and an extended human part of Himself at the same time, and yet still be separate. He can and has manifested Himself in human form and also has many other spiritual dimensions of extensions of Himself. He is One being with extensions that He chooses to add to His composit. He is not actually a "He" in essence, but is a spirit being with no root gender. He has presented Himself to human kind in the form of a human, Jesus Christ. God is "One" and there is no other being like Him.
The arguement of "unitarian" or "trinitarian" understanding is very superficial and contrived by human limitations for the purpose of creating intentional division and organizational exclusitivity. There is nothing in the scriptures that gives direction for making this stand off an issue at all. It should be a non-issu