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THE SEVEN THUNDERS
The Real 9/11

http://thereal911.com/index.html


Like a modern “Paul Revere”, the author of the book “THE REAL 9/11: Truth & Testimony”, named Peter Revere, reveals a sinister “THE WAR ON NUMBERS”. Read the sample chapters for a stunning revealing of hidden truth, particularly how the number “11” plays an integral role in the Freemason’s sinister plan for America, their sacred geometry impregnated in our National Treasures, i.e. the “11-pointed star” upon which the Statue of Liberty stands, and how this and the number “11” all points to their “Hidden God”, Lucifer, who is Satan.

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happy2Bfree
A friend of mine and former officer in the NYPD and I have talked about this. I can't say what all he thinks as he used to work for the government....and besides....it dawned on me not too long ago that I need to be more careful about expressing some of my views in the forums because of the field I'm going into.

With that said...I have to say... I still am not convinced that there is solid proof in my opinion to indicate the twin towers were detonated.

It is odd that the buildings fell straight down as if imploded by explosives. They went down very clean and straight. That did shock me. However....

I would also think that the steel and concrete pillars that are below the building which would have had to have been covered in detonation devices would have been noticed by someone in the buildings. Not to mention that there was nobody that noticed people setting up such things.

Those areas were accessed from what I understand by commuters to the World Trade Centers.

I would think the twin towers were highly guarded at night. I would doubt that guards would have let someone have access to do such things.

I am suspicious of some internet postings about all this. There are alot of people that would like to see us give up on the war in the Middle East.

I have a hard time believing our government would be working to sabatage our nation in some way.

I still believe in my Government that they want us to prosper and would not kill our own people or destroy two of our biggest buildings in order to bring about some hidden agenda.

'Twould be very evil if such a thing were the reality.

College


OneOfHisHandmaidens
I would suggest you do a little research on the weekend that they had a 'power-down'. The buildings were 'closed' for some 'work' that needed to be done. Search well.
FLLegal
You have to be a near idiot to believe the garbage put out by the "Truthers" that 9/11 was committed by the American government.

Here is one link of many which debunks such garbage. Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy theories and Controlled Demolition Myths

http://www.debunking911.com/index.html

Also let me say that such lies are an attempt by Satan to destroy this nation. When you entertain such lies, repeat them, and/or argue for them, you are merely being a gullible tool for Satan and our enemies both without and within.

Just another sign of the dumbing down of America. Now many aren't even graduating from High School. We are quickly becoming a nation of idiots and fools.

"Useful idiot"

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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In political jargon, the term "useful idiot" was used to describe Soviet sympathizers in western countries (particularly in the United States) and the alleged attitude of the Soviet government towards them. The implication was that the person in question was naïve, foolish, or in willful denial, and was being cynically used by the Soviet Union, or another Communist state.

The term is now used more broadly to describe someone who is perceived to be manipulated by political movement, terrorist group, or hostile government, whether or not the group is Communist in nature.


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Modern usage

In the United States, the term is sometimes used as a pejorative against political liberals, radicals, and others among left-wing politics. The tone implies that the speaker thinks the "useful idiot" is ignorant of the facts to the extent that they end up unwittingly advancing an adverse cause that they might not otherwise support. The term gained increased use after the publication of conservative columnist and Reagan administration Mona Charen's 2004 book Useful Idiots: How Liberals Got It Wrong in the Cold War and Still Blame America First.

The term is also sometimes used by anarchists and other radicals to describe groups and individuals whose ideology is alleged to be excessively deferential to a government or authoritarian political movement.

Since the September 11, 2001 attacks, the term "useful idiot" has also been used by some commentators to describe individuals said to take a softer line against Islamism and terrorism. For example, Anthony Browne wrote in the United Kingdom newspaper, The Times:[7]

“ Elements within the British establishment were notoriously sympathetic to Hitler. Today the Islamists enjoy similar support. In the 1930s it was Edward VIII, aristocrats and the Daily Mail; this time it is left-wing activists, The Guardian and sections of the BBC. They may not want a global theocracy, but they are like the West’s apologists for the Soviet Union — useful idiots. ”

Similarly, Bruce C. Thornton, a professor of Classics at Cal State Fresno wrote:[8]

“ Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement, reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam.
happy2Bfree
Oneof.....

The morning of 9/11....all access to the buildings were open including underground commuters to the WTC via subway. Someone would have noticed all the detonation devices.

It would have taken massive amounts to bring down the buildings the way that controlled detonations take.

And now that FL has done some of the work for me......thanks FL.....I think there are also good arguments against the 9/11 Conspiracy theories.

God bless.

College
OneOfHisHandmaidens
Check the dates of Sept 8th and 9th of 2001 (the weekend BEFORE the towers came down). I have the links.....if you can't find the information doing your own searching.
happy2Bfree
OneofHis.....

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I have the links.....if you can't find the information doing your own searching.


If you don't mind. I am super super busy with class work and really don't have much time to fool around looking for that info.

It would be a big help for me. I can take a quick glance then.

Thanks...

College
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
I am a designer/architect so I thoroughly understand "exponential load pancaking" of high rise structures, and witnessed it in the 1964 Santiago, Chile Earthquake where several skyscrapers pancaked into their very own "footprint". In controlled demolition "before" a collapse of any structure a whole series of numerous trigger-point detonations are audibly "heard" and bursts of flash points "visibly" seen, this did not occur with the hypothetical "controlled" demolition of the WTC towers. So there is an element of extreme conspiracy to the 9/11 event, which I agree, but also it cannot be denied that this is intermingled with a degree of dubious activities.

With that said, personally, it is my opinion that what Americans view as their traditional government is strictly "superficial", and they are unaware of a "Fifth Column" of operatives buried within the octopus tentacles of our government, and that in regards to the 9/11 tragedy this aspect of the U.S. government does not have an entirely clean nose in this matter, which I suspect "allowed" the tragedy to transpire. It is the agenda of this "underground government" to "castrate" America in preparation for their One World Government, for the one world nation that stands in the way of this Globalists’ quest is the United States, and thus must be eliminated. Their agenda is on schedule as the U.S. has mobilized its global war machine on several fronts and more fronts and theaters are yet to come (Iran, Africa, North Korea and to culminate with China over Taiwan), which will serve to deplete our economic stability, military power, treasury, and our national will to collapse with utter bankruptcy on every level. Their agenda is to use the rouge agents and nations and terrorists as a first wave assault, and then allow Russia and China to bilaterally give the U.S. the final death blow, which will be a thermal nuclear ambush of the continental U.S. before the year 2010. Follow the money trail, ultimately Iran and the terrorists are financed by China and Russia, who are ultimately financed by the foreign trade policies of what nation? What nation has made these nations hostile to America rich? It is the United States.

I am aware of the great "controversy" of the "conspiracies" and how this agitates the typical American who believes that their government would not betray itself, but it has. Unfortunately, if the typical American cannot get past this superficial perspective, then they cannot receive the Truth.

However, my original point to this posted thread is to punctuate that beyond the surface is a hidden language of encoded numbers that serves to identify the true culprit behind America’s pending woes, and this agent is not human.

The annihilation of the U.S. will take place, and God will allow it, because Americans love their lives far more and above their love for Christ, if that love for Him exists even at all. Americans love their “things” with a lustful passion, their toys, gadgets, electronics, luxuries, SUV's; every day and every weekend is filled with shopping gone amok, parties onto high heaven and the main goal in American life is to have "fun". Look around... do you see a Holy Nation onto God? Do you see 300,000,000 Americans closing up shop every Sabbath to go and honor and pay tribute to the Creator of the Universe? I don't think so. Americans have given themselves over to other gods and idols that they lust after insatiably; their weekly manicures, favorite TV shows, Las Vegas, the tabloids, poker with the guys, HDTV's, ipods, the gym, Entertainment Tonight, their gurus like Oprah, Dr. Phil, golf, Super Bowl, the NBA, etc.... and no where can they find time to squeeze into their schedules any time at all for Jesus. Jesus? Jesus who?

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happy2Bfree
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The annihilation of the U.S. will take place, and God will allow it, because Americans love their lives far more and above their love for Christ, if that love for Him exists even at all. Americans love their “things” with a lustful passion, their toys, gadgets, electronics, luxuries, SUV's; every day and every weekend is filled with shopping gone amok, parties onto high heaven and the main goal in American life is to have "fun". Look around... do you see a Holy Nation onto God? Do you see 300,000,000 Americans closing up shop every Sabbath to go and honor and pay tribute to the Creator of the Universe? I don't think so. Americans have given themselves over to other gods and idols that they lust after insatiably; their weekly manicures, favorite TV shows, Las Vegas, the tabloids, poker with the guys, HDTV's, ipods, the gym, Entertainment Tonight, their gurus like Oprah, Dr. Phil, golf, Super Bowl, the NBA, etc.... and no where can they find time to squeeze into their schedules any time at all for Jesus. Jesus? Jesus who?


Hey Seven....

How are you doing? I hope well. I just wanted to comment on this. I see things so much differently than what you mentioned above.

Remember when Lot argued with God about saving Sodom and Gomorrah? God was willing to save that city even for just a few good people.

There are still believers in America that do not live their lives in extravagance. They could if they wanted to...but they don't.

If fact...more and more are becoming more frugal with spending. In some cases.....saving over $40,000 dollars a year.

I think the ones you are referring to are the unsaved.

But yes...there are Christians who do live large if they got the money....but the ones that do that are also the ones that go to church faithfully and tithe and spend money on others who don't have as much and donate not just their money but also their time into community programs and put their own sweat and labor into projects to help the needy.

This is the kind of Americans I am used to being around in my area.

I consider them blessed. They are blessed so that they can bless others.

But I can see how it certainly looks like all Americans are spoiled brats who are a greedy, materialistic, pampered people. Thats all the media portrays its seems.

However....its not a true picture of the people that make up this great nation.

College

THE SEVEN THUNDERS
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The annihilation of the U.S. will take place, and God will allow it, because Americans love their lives far more and above their love for Christ, if that love for Him exists even at all. Americans love their “things” with a lustful passion, their toys, gadgets, electronics, luxuries, SUV's; every day and every weekend is filled with shopping gone amok, parties onto high heaven and the main goal in American life is to have "fun". Look around... do you see a Holy Nation onto God? Do you see 300,000,000 Americans closing up shop every Sabbath to go and honor and pay tribute to the Creator of the Universe? I don't think so. Americans have given themselves over to other gods and idols that they lust after insatiably; their weekly manicures, favorite TV shows, Las Vegas, the tabloids, poker with the guys, HDTV's, ipods, the gym, Entertainment Tonight, their gurus like Oprah, Dr. Phil, golf, Super Bowl, the NBA, etc.... and no where can they find time to squeeze into their schedules any time at all for Jesus. Jesus? Jesus who?


Hey Seven....

How are you doing? I hope well. I just wanted to comment on this. I see things so much differently than what you mentioned above.

Remember when Lot argued with God about saving Sodom and Gomorrah? God was willing to save that city even for just a few good people.

There are still believers in America that do not live their lives in extravagance. They could if they wanted to...but they don't.

If fact...more and more are becoming more frugal with spending. In some cases.....saving over $40,000 dollars a year.

I think the ones you are referring to are the unsaved.

But yes...there are Christians who do live large if they got the money....but the ones that do that are also the ones that go to church faithfully and tithe and spend money on others who don't have as much and donate not just their money but also their time into community programs and put their own sweat and labor into projects to help the needy.

This is the kind of Americans I am used to being around in my area.

I consider them blessed. They are blessed so that they can bless others.

But I can see how it certainly looks like all Americans are spoiled brats who are a greedy, materialistic, pampered people. Thats all the media portrays its seems.

However....its not a true picture of the people that make up this great nation.

College


Hi, Collegegirl...

Nice to hear from you. I'm doing very well, thank you.

Yes, Lot and his family were spared... but ONLY Lot and his family, in other words, a very small "Remnant".

The research of Stan Deyo (http://standeyo.com/index1.html) at "Millennial Ark"... has put the coming "vomitting out" of America's inhabitants (according to Leviticus 18) at 95% of the total U.S. population, i.e. 95% of all Americans will be killed. This means only about 15 million Americans will survive the coming holocaust.

People will ultimately learn that it is not merely the guilt of the sinner that shall be judged, but also the guilt of the silent, those who chose to remain silent in the face of sin and spoke not against the atrocities within our nation, but tolerated it and closed their eyes.

Also, I know so-called "Christians" who took out 30 year mortgages on their homes with absolutely no intention of paying it back in full. They all told me this and said that it's a "blessing" from God to live deliciously and lavishly before they are "magically" Raptured away. I would say that is a good reason for God NOT to "Rapture" anyone. These ones I feel will be part of the "vomitting out".

Blessings...

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Miki
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Unfortunately, if the typical American cannot get past this superficial perspective, then they cannot receive the Truth.


Things are thoroughly mixed...

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But the Lord knows his own recipe....And the cooks in the kitchen...

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Don't worry..The Lord can retrieve ashes from the sea.
happy2Bfree
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Hi, Collegegirl...

Nice to hear from you. I'm doing very well, thank you.

Yes, Lot and his family were spared... but ONLY Lot and his family, in other words, a very small "Remnant".

The research of Stan Deyo (http://standeyo.com/index1.html) at "Millennial Ark"... has put the coming "vomitting out" of America's inhabitants (according to Leviticus 18) at 95% of the total U.S. population, i.e. 95% of all Americans will be killed. This means only about 15 million Americans will survive the coming holocaust.

People will ultimately learn that it is not merely the guilt of the sinner that shall be judged, but also the guilt of the silent, those who chose to remain silent in the face of sin and spoke not against the atrocities within our nation, but tolerated it and closed their eyes.

Also, I know so-called "Christians" who took out 30 year mortgages on their homes with absolutely no intention of paying it back in full. They all told me this and said that it's a "blessing" from God to live deliciously and lavishly before they are "magically" Raptured away. I would say that is a good reason for God NOT to "Rapture" anyone. These ones I feel will be part of the "vomitting out".

Blessings...

-7


Hey Seven....

I'm also thinking of when Jonah was told by God to go to Ninevah. He ended up being disappointed that God didn't destroy them. Remember what God told him? God has mercy and loves all of His creation. Even us evil Americans who give so much to other nations. But yet.. we are probably the most hated nation on the planet. Go figure.

I think until God removes all the believers from the United States in the rapture...than the wrath of God will not be on this great nation.

God is using the United States right now. We continue to help Israel and protect that nation against the surrounding Arab nations.

It would take alot to destroy the United States. And the rest of the world would greatly feel the ramifications of such a thing. Trust me....the fall of the United States is not what this world would want.

Great World powers have ended...but they have not totally gone away. If 95% of the United States is going to die.....then I can honestly tell you that the rest of the world is also going to suffer a major loss in their populations as well.

College
Here Am I
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The Real 9/11

http://thereal911.com/index.html


Like a modern “Paul Revere”, the author of the book “THE REAL 9/11: Truth & Testimony”, named Peter Revere, reveals a sinister “THE WAR ON NUMBERS”. Read the sample chapters for a stunning revealing of hidden truth, particularly how the number “11” plays an integral role in the Freemason’s sinister plan for America, their sacred geometry impregnated in our National Treasures, i.e. the “11-pointed star” upon which the Statue of Liberty stands, and how this and the number “11” all points to their “Hidden God”, Lucifer, who is Satan.

-7




Greetings,

Warning: Peter Revere's website you posted is simply a web of deceit; a ploy to sell his book. He leaves no clue on the site about the Roman Catholic influence and teaching which his book "The Real 911" contains.

I personally had the opportunity to read the book. It contains actual instructions on how to pray the rosary! sad.gif
peacemaker
Here am I, thanks for that info!
GodspromisesRyes
i agree that there was a " conspiracy" to do this thing with 911

just as it is no coincidence that it was 9-11 when the man tried to fly the little plane into the white house a few years ago to kill the president and also how this very scenario was on tv shows and movies ahead of the time. however

what is imporant truly is not tht wicked men conspired to do this but that GOD is in control and GOD uses wicked men to bring judgements and these things do not happen without Gods hand. satan has no free reign to do as he pleases and GOD is who is going to tare down and destroy this nation not satan. this is not a rightous nation or a christian nation- it is a nation of the WORLD and only Gods kingdom is unmoveable, holy, eternal.
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