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http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/123961


(IsraelNN.com) US President George W. Bush said a nuclear Iran would mean World War III. Israeli newscasts featured Gog & Magog maps of the likely alignment of nations in that potential conflict.

Channel 2 and Channel 10 TV showed the world map, sketching the basic alignment of the two opposing axes in a coming world war, in a manner evoking associations of the Gog and Magog prophecy for many viewers. The prophecy of Gog and Magog refers to a great world war centered on the Holy Land and Jerusalem and first appears in the book of Yechezkel (Ezekiel).

On one side were Israel, the United States, Britain, France and Germany. On the other were Iran, Russia, China, Syria and North Korea.

US President Bush said Wednesday during a press conference that Iran attaining nuclear weapons raises the risk of "World War III."

"If Iran had a nuclear weapon, it'd be a dangerous threat to world peace," Bush said. "So I told people that if you're interested in avoiding World War III, it seems like you ought to be interested [in preventing a nuclear Iran]…I take the threat of Iran with a nuclear weapon very seriously.”

Russian President Vladimir Putin visited Iran Tuesday and slammed the US’s refusal to rule out the use of force against Iran’s nuclear project. "Not only should we reject the use of force, but also the mention of force as a possibility," he said.

Russia has blocked tougher UN sanctions in the UN Security Council, where it has veto power. The Russian president asserts that there is no evidence Iran is pursuing nuclear weapons rather than a peaceful nuclear power program.

Israel’s Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni called for a new Security Council resolution against Iran at a press conference following her meeting with US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice Wednesday. "I do believe there is a need for another Security Council resolution,” she told reporters. “In the past, the need to get everybody on board - including Russia and China - led to some compromises on the nature of the sanctions. I hope this will not be the case this time."

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert announced Wednesday a sudden trip to Moscow Thursday morning, where he will meet with Putin about Iran. Other topics of discussion will reportedly be Russia’s continued supply of weapons to Syria, which have then made their way into the hands of various terrorist groups based there as well.


Making things even more interesting is also news coming out of Iran itself. It's hard for me to believe that there is a single Jew living inside Iran much less a significant Jewish population. They are getting an urgent message to get out of Iran "with all possible speed". Here's the article;



http://debka.com/headline.php?hid=4685


The letters, according to DEBKAfile’s Iranian sources, have been posted to Jewish families in Tehran (where the community numbers some 13,000), Isfahan (under 2,000) and Shiraz (some 4,000). They are captioned: Danger! Danger! Danger! and tell recipients to try and reach the West with all possible speed. Iranian Jews like the rest of the population face grave danger from impending events, the anonymous writers warn.

Wednesay, Oct. 17, President George W. Bush spoke of World War Three if Iran which seeks to destroy Israel gains a nuclear bomb. He said those who helped the Islamic Republic would be held responsible, a broad hint at Russia and China.

The Israeli prime minister Ehud Olmert’s sudden trip to Moscow Thursday, Oct. 18, for one day there and back, and the two hours President Vladimir Putin has allotted for their conversation, tie in with these events.

DEBKAfile’s sources report that the meeting was requested by Olmert after he conferred with US secretary of state Condoleezza Rice on the last day of her Middle East shuttle, and with Washington. The prime minister is seeking Putin’s assurance that Russia will not complete construction of Iran’s nuclear reactor at Bushehr or supply the fuel for its activation.

Sources in Washington and Jerusalem decided to strike while the iron is hot, namely straight after Putin’s return from Tehran and before his final commitment to Tehran, in the hope of gaining his personal pledge to leave the reactor unfinished. This would be an important obstacle to Iran’s nuclear plans.

But our sources in Moscow judge these calculations are unrealistic. If Putin did not show his cards to the Iranian leaders in Tehran, they say, there is no chance of him giving Olmert any commitments. The Russian president is playing the world leader to the hilt. He will emphasize to the Israeli prime minister that Moscow has its own interests in the Middle East, just like the US and Israel.

The letters posted to Iranian Jews, our sources report, are not signed; they were postmarked from different towns in America and Europe and from private addresses so as not to raise the suspicions of Iranian security services.

All the same, some were discovered and confiscated, prompting Tehran to accuse Israel and world Zionist organizations of a campaign to scare its Jewish citizens.

In recent months, Iranian officials angrily held up a new Israeli offer of a one-time grant of $10,000 for every Iranian Jew migrating to Israel, over and above the regular grants for other immigrants. Learning of these incentives, the Iranian authorities not long ago ordered the Jewish deputy in the Majlis, Mauris Mo’tamed, to declare that the Jews of Iran cannot be bought for money and would never forsake their country.
LoisFaith2000
Bush`s remark on WWIII `rhetoric`: White House

Washington, Oct 19, Oct 19: The White House says President George W Bush was simply making "a rhetorical point" when he suggested that if Iran could make nuclear weapons, it could lead to World War III.

"The President was not making any war plans, and he wasn't making any declarations," White House Press Secretary Dana Perino said Thursday. "He was making a point, and the point is that we do not believe - and neither does the international community believe - that Iran should be allowed to pursue nuclear weapons."

If Iran acquired nuclear weapons, she said, "That would lead to a very dangerous - a potentially dangerous situation, and potentially lead to a scenario where you have World War III. But he was using that as a rhetorical point, not, you know, making a declaration."

The United States and its allies accuse Iran of secretly trying to build nuclear weapons, which Tehran denies.

Bush, at a news conference on Wednesday, said, "I've told people that if you're interested in avoiding World War III, it seems like you ought to be interested in preventing them (Iran) from having the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon."

Bureau Report

wellspring
Can anyone find a viewable image of the map they're talking about in this article? How do these countries tie-in with biblical prophecy?
crownsevenalphabet
HOW DOES GOG AND MAGOG, RELATE TO MEDES & PERSIANS (Hand Writing on the Wall?) ?

The Satellite tracking of Medes & PersianS:
I created a sentence > : Medes and Persians Satellite tracking
(I put that in and hit go on the computer)

Look what came up.
My point is, The Satellite Tracking of Medes & Persia, links back to
`Hand Writing on the Wall ` . . .

In Daniel 5, we read of the events surrounding the fall of Babylon to the armies of King Cyrus the Great. The empire of the Medes and the Persians was the "second kingdom" that arose after Babylon. History tells us that the reign of the vast-reaching Medo-Persian Empire established by King Cyrus continued just over 200 years.
http://www3.telus.net/thegoodnews/beasty.htm

Revealing The Beast of Revelation :

The empire of the Medes and the Persians was the "second kingdom" that arose ...... planet with super computers and satellite tracking systems But unless we ...

AmericasLastDays.com - Hidden Manna for the End Times (Ch.15 ...

The silver of the Medes and Persians conquered the gold of Babylon and so it ...... Losing our satellite eyes in the sky could explain how the nations could ...

www.americaslastdays.com/?page=hm15


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Forwarded Message:
Subj: Reviewing: Writing on the Wall: Daniel 5:10 : Joshua + Pharasites
Date: 7/5/2007 4:50:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time
From: Bclarkgemetria




http://exodus2006.com/lyuben/writing-on-the-wall.htm

I turned in the Bible today and landed on Daniel 5:10,(Hand Writing on the Wall)?
When I reviewed my 2-7-2007 research on this subject, it reminded me
that the name `Joshua` is encoded in the message. The ^ above
exodus research has the work already completed. If you have time read it.

Pharasites are the Medes and Persians:
The Medes ({Old Kurdish}[1] Māda[2]) were an ancient Iranian people, who lived in the north, western, and northwestern portions of present-day Iran, and roughly the areas of present day Kurdistan, Hamedan, Tehran, Azarbaijan, north of Esfahan and Zanjan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medes


Daniel 5:28: 'PERES'--your kingdom has been divided and given over to the (AU) Medes and Persians."
Peres was the third word written, by the HAND of God on the wall.
I find it interesting about the term divided and given over to . . .
Pharasites are being given special compensation for arms that are being used against my people.
No doubt, the Medes and Persians are connected to the `Hand Writing on the
Wall` repeated upcoming events. . .

Patterns repeat in history !


Subject: Scott, The Writing on the Wall happened 2006A.D.
Date: 2/7/2007
From: bclarkgemetria@aol.com
To: satovey@yahoo.com
http://yevotas.com/


Quote:Therefore, if AD 2006 is to be a crucial period of human history, it
should correspond somehow to the termination of the Babylonian
empire. . .
What is your opinion Scott, of the similar characteristics of The Hand Writing
on the Wall and AD 2006, versus BC 2006 events ?

Blessings!
Betty


Wed Feb 7, 2007 12:26 pm
"Betty Clark" <bclarkgemetria@aol.com


The word Joshua is an encoded message about :The Hand Writing on the Wall . . .
found in scripture under Daniel 5: 5-6. . . the hand writes the king
a message for Daniel to interp. Yes, JUST A hand. . . See the Bible
code:
http://exodus2006.com/lyuben/writing-on-the-wall.htm . . .

DANIEL 5:5,6 . . .
5Suddenly the fingers of a man's hand emerged and began writing
opposite the lampstand on the plaster of the wall of the king's
palace, and the king saw the back of the hand that did the writing.

6Then the king's (E)face grew pale and his thoughts alarmed him, and
his (F)hip joints went slack and his (G)knees began knocking
together.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_...&version=49

Daniel 5:24-29 .........................

24"Then the (AR)hand was sent from Him and this inscription was
written out.

25"Now this is the inscription that was written out: 'MENE, MENE,
TEKEL, UPHARSIN.'

26"This is the interpretation of the message: 'MENE'--God has
numbered your kingdom and (AS)put an end to it.

27" 'TEKEL'--you have been (AT)weighed on the scales and found
deficient.

28" 'PERES'--your kingdom has been divided and given over to the (AU)
Medes and Persians."

29Then Belshazzar gave orders, and they (AV)clothed Daniel with
purple and put a necklace of gold around his neck, and issued a
proclamation concerning him that he now had authority as the third
ruler in the kingdom.


Scott's answer: http://yevotas.com/
In a message dated 2/7/2007 3:26:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, satovey@yahoo.com writes:

Hi Betty,

I don't see a corelation between AD 2006 and
the destruction of Babylon.

However, 2007 is exactly 110 years after
the first Zionist congress convened in 1897.
This correlates to Joshua because Joshua
lived to be 110 years old.

This year is also 10 years from 2017 which
is the most logical year of Christ's return.
There are ten commandments.

We therefore are at 10 and counting smile.gif

Scott
noahsdaddy
why is 2017 the most logical year for christ to return?
Shekel
Interesting article about what is going on in Iran and Israel.

But about date setting, I think it is unprofitable.

The site that crown quoted is self-incriminating since the very title of their website, "AD2006" was an apparent attempt to forecast some great event that year, which as we know, nothing happened of any exceptional consequence. So why fish from water proven wrong?

Crown, you really should be careful what you teach others. You may mean it as mere speculation, but others might take it and run with it as if its the gospel truth.
Shekel
The site "AD2006" makes this quote at that link given about the writing on the wall:

QUOTE
I believed that my speculation was reasonable. I managed to find AD 2006 encoded in the Torah through an appropriate modification of its expression in Hebrew but by no means violation of the established rules. And there, in a less than 40×21 matrix, was ‘waiting’ one of the most mysterious long-term prophecies in the Old Testament.


This is total nonsense. As many know, I have studied bible codes for many years and I can tell you with certainty that one can find whatever they are looking for with this methodology. It is totally flawed and only muddies legitimate code research.

The same can be said for locating a pattern for a seven-year period of tribulation in the future and then claim that "this is it!"

I can show you that there are potential patterns every year from now to AD 4000! And all seem compelling! But the fact is that any one of them will do, and at the right time He will pick one foreordained and will fill it with breathtaking patterns that He could have done any time he wanted if He so chose.

The rise and fall of every empire affecting Israel has been locked into amazing patterns, and it will be so until the end of the age. So trying to figure out the exact mind of God in this matter as to date setting is impossible, and only shows a lack of understanding of this whole branch of Bible prophecy time frames.
Miki
Shekel says:

QUOTE
trying to figure out the exact mind of God in this matter as to date setting is impossible, and only shows a lack of understanding of this whole branch of Bible prophecy time frames.


Trying to find out the mind of God in any matter is impossible... dah!

But he does reveal at times..to those he's called according to his purposes..

But not to those who try to pry their way in through the back door. Those who manipulate knowledge based on human findings and then try to create a pattern that vulnerable fools will follow to their own destruction.

Men have been doing this (that l know of) since Babel...They try to be like God or make others think they have special knowledge to garner a following.
Dio
I agree with Shekel on this one, because of what Jesus said -

-> Matt 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no [man], no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

I think it stands to reason we may know the generation, and possibly the season of the end, but any man stating he knows certainly when is in obvious contradiction with this famous verse.
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heretic5
QUOTE (Miki @ May 3 2008, 05:10 AM) *
Trying to find out the mind of God in any matter is impossible... dah!

But he does reveal at times..to those he's called according to his purposes..

Agreed. The problem is to know whom He has called. For instance, people occasionally saw a halo above William Branham's head. (No, I'm not kidding. Photos still exist.) Despite that fact, I'm telling you that Branham was not called by God.

Well, many people would dispute that claim, and they would bring forth all sorts of evidence, not the least of which would be his halo. If you can't believe a halo, what can you believe?

Good question. Let me give you a short answer about heretics: I am one, so I know who else is one. I could tell you how I know in each case; but you would not believe me because I'm just too much of a heretic for anybody to believe me. Well, that's an exaggeration, a few would believe me; but they are few and far between. Not complaining; just reporting a fact.

And while I'm reporting facts about heretics, let me mention another one. Every prophet you ever heard about was considered to be a heretic by the people he was sent to, at least at first. The only notable exception was Jonah. So just because you know that somebody is a heretic, you still don't know who sent that person.

The sad truth is that the person usually doesn't know either, just thinks he/she knows. The person would therefore pass a lie detector test with flying colors. So we discover that sincerity also doesn't mean a thing. Just look at David Ickes.

Well, how about quoting scripture? You're kidding, right? Re-examine the temptations of Jesus, and you'll see that Satan can out-quote you any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Not only that, Satan understands topics you haven't even heard of yet. Satan is a lot of things; but ignorant and stupid he is not.

Well, how about testifying that Jesus is God? Again, you're kidding, right? Some of the most accurate testimony about Jesus being God was spoken by some of the worst devils in the book.

So let's see now. Halos are out; quoting scripture is out; sincerity is out; accurately testifying about Jesus is out. So what's in? Again, I could tell you; but what good would it do you? In short; you're a sitting duck for deceptions. So, I'm not? Right. I've got a red phone; but I can't hand it to you so you can listen for yourself. And what I can hand you, you won't accept. Checkmate.
Divinespark
QUOTE (noahsdaddy @ May 2 2008, 03:23 PM) *
why is 2017 the most logical year for christ to return?


Because we are getting closer and closer to 2012, and nothing extraordinary is happening.
It's usual that pseudoscientists and fantastics are postponing a remarkable year somewhere further into the near future.
For whatever "reasons".

Greets, Divinespark
FreedomPower
QUOTE (Divinespark @ Aug 1 2008, 02:42 PM) *
QUOTE (noahsdaddy @ May 2 2008, 03:23 PM) *
why is 2017 the most logical year for christ to return?


Because we are getting closer and closer to 2012, and nothing extraordinary is happening.
It's usual that pseudoscientists and fantastics are postponing a remarkable year somewhere further into the near future.
For whatever "reasons".

Greets, Divinespark


Its incredible how people try to guess the day of the return when Christ himself said only the Father knew the time.
yaqub
QUOTE (Shekel @ May 2 2008, 01:16 PM) *
The site "AD2006" makes this quote at that link given about the writing on the wall:

QUOTE
I believed that my speculation was reasonable. I managed to find AD 2006 encoded in the Torah through an appropriate modification of its expression in Hebrew but by no means violation of the established rules. And there, in a less than 40×21 matrix, was ‘waiting’ one of the most mysterious long-term prophecies in the Old Testament.




Wow.... if one can "modify" the Hebrew expression, one can certainly prove anything!
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