note: mean't only as a purely scholarly study with no intent to proliferate
such teachings - for educative purposes only
Kabbalistic Interpretation of 9-11
9/11 reminds us of a lesson from an ancient Kabbalistic text.
by Rabbi Simon Jacobson
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" Ten sefirot of nothingness; ten and not nine, ten and not eleven..."
Ruminating on the anniversary of Tuesday September 11, feeling the grief and trauma of my fellow New Yorkers as they and thousands of visitors solemnly gathered at Ground Zero, something rings a bell. Where have I heard the numbers nine and eleven before? It then comes to me. In the Sefer Yetzira ("Book of Formation"), the oldest Kabbalistic text, attributed to the patriarch Abraham, a cryptic phrase states: "Ten sefirot of nothingness; ten and not nine, ten and not eleven."
The ten sefirot are the basic building blocks - the spiritual DNA - of all of existence. Exactly ten. Not nine, not eleven. Exactly ten, not more, not less. Precision is critical to all systems. One missing or extra point in a computer program, one deficient or additional cell, can wreak devastating havoc.
9/11 is a day that shook up our entire system, a day that exposed our vulnerabilities and revealed the tenuousness of global stability. What is the missing ingredient in 9/11 - the tenth dimension - that manifests the events unleashed one year ago on September 11?
Yom Kippur - the tenth day - is that ingredient. Rosh Hashanah is the birthday of the universe with the human at the center; the following ten days rebuild the structure of existence, culminating with Yom Kippur, when Moses descends from Sinai with the Second Tablets and the promise of hope even after destruction.
" Love of G-d is one with love of all people..."
In Kabbalistic language this ten-day period is called "binyan ha'malchut", the "building of sovereignity". Psychologically, in this period we rebuild human dignity - the essential value and sanctity of every person's life derived from the fact that each human being is created in the Divine Image.
In the ten days from Rosh Hashanah to Yom Kippur, and especially on Yom Kippur itself, we reaffirm the indispensable nature and inalienable rights of every human being on earth, by virtue of our connection to G-d, who chose each of us to fulfill our unique mission.
And it is this divine ingredient - the dignity of malchut - that was missing from the demonically distorted religious beliefs of the attackers. Love of G-d is one with love of all people, if for no other reason than their being reflections of the Divine Image.
One can have an elaborate structure of all nine elements - a complete intellectual and emotional system - but if you are missing the tenth dimension, malchut, everything is compromised.
" G-d that transcends all of existence is one with the G-dliness within all of existence..."
Malchut also represents the Divine Presence within nature and all of existence. At the pinnacle of Yom Kippur, the conclusion of the Ne'ilah prayer, we declare that G-d is One and we repeat seven times, " Havayah hu ha' Elo-him" - G-d that transcends all of existence is one with the G-dliness within all of existence.
Religion that believes in a G-d in Heaven but forgets about G-d's presence on Earth (ten minus one - nine), or annihilates life on Earth (ten plus one - eleven), will be fundamentally bankrupt. 9/11 - and all the events of the past year - remind us that science, politics, economy, every one of our systems, must include the tenth dimension, malchut, for us to survive. This tenth ingredient is the key to our security and future.
Above all, malchut is distinguished for its self-effacement. Malchut is the moon, with no light of its own, reflecting the light of the sun. When you shine your own light, you are only as great as you are. You may be very great, but human greatness is always limited, temporal, mortal. When you become a channel that reflects a light greater than your own, when you are dedicated to something beyond yourself, you become greater than yourself. When you dedicate yourself to eternity - and to eternal values - you become eternal.
Before 9/11, Americans, and much of the rest of the world as well, felt that we had it "all figured out". Our unprecedented prosperity, high standard of living, sophisticated technology, created an illusion of invulnerability. 9/11 reminded us that we need the tenth truth, malchut, and the humility it espouses.
Religion without the dignity and balance of malchut - without the basic respect for the G-dliness in others - becomes a destructive force.
Don't cut out the tenth dimension, and don't add to it. Don't be too "earth-bound" and don't be overly "religious". Don't overindulge in the material and don't escape into the spiritual. Balance and integrate the two. Don't be less or more religious than G-d. Don't be materially or spiritually arrogant. G-d created a universe and entrusted us with the power to refine and not destroy the material world.
[Reprinted from www.chabad.org]
http://www.kabbalaonline.org/Society/curre...ven_and_Ten.asp
Rabbi Simon Jacobson Rabbi Simon Jacobson is the author of the best-selling book Toward a Meaningful Life: The Wisdom of the Rebbe (William Morrow, 1995), and the founder and director of the Meaningful Life Learning Center (www.meaningfullife.com).
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Translation and Elucidation of the above text :
I'm supplying a basic interpretation of the Rabbi's 'shiur' (lesson)...
" Ten sefirot of nothingness; ten and not nine, ten and not eleven..." TEN SPHERES OF INCORPORALITY (SPIRITUAL LEVELS), NOT 9 BUT 10 AND NOT 11 - 10 LEVELS OF GOD'S EFFULGENT LIFE GIVING LIGHT.
Ruminating on the anniversary of Tuesday September 11, feeling the grief and trauma of my fellow New Yorkers as they and thousands of visitors solemnly gathered at Ground Zero, something rings a bell. Where have I heard the numbers nine and eleven before? It then comes to me. In the Sefer Yetzira ("Book of Formation") BOOK OF MECHANICS OF CREATION , the oldest Kabbalistic text, attributed to the patriarch Abraham, a cryptic phrase states: "Ten sefirot of nothingness; ten and not nine, ten and not eleven." TEN SPHERICAL PLANES OF SPIRITUALITY, 10 AND NOT 9, 10 AND NOT 11
The ten sefirot are the basic building blocks - the spiritual DNA - of all of existence. Exactly ten. Not nine, not eleven. Exactly ten, not more, not less. Precision is critical to all systems. One missing or extra point in a computer program, one deficient or additional cell, can wreak devastating havoc. THE SEFIROT ARE SPHERICAL FILTERS OF GOD'S PRIMORDIAL LIGHT - WHICH NOTHING CAN EXIST IN - DUE TO HIS POWER. THEREFORE AT CREATION HIS LIGHT RADIATED IN DIMINISHING, FILTERED,POWERFUL LEVELS SO THAT THE ACTUAL LIGHT THAT 'CREATED' THE EARTH WOULD NOT SIMULTANEOUSLY DESTROY IT
(CONTROLLED 'CREATION' SO TO SPEAK - eg. WHEN GOD SAID TO MOSES "NO ONE CAN SEE ME (MY GLORY) AND LIVE")
9/11 is a day that shook up our entire system, a day that exposed our vulnerabilities and revealed the tenuousness of global stability. What is the missing ingredient in 9/11 - the tenth dimension - that manifests the events unleashed one year ago on September 11? IN OTHERWORDS, 9-11 OCCURRED BECAUSE SIN DISRUPTED THE 10TH SPHERE OF LIGHT CREATING A DISUNITY IN CREATION (A BREAKING OF TORAH LAW = SIN) AND UNLEASHED A DESTRUCTIVE FORCE THAT TOOK DOWN THE TWIN TOWERS
Yom Kippur - the tenth day - is that ingredient. (YOM KIPPUR IS THE 10TH DAY OR THE CULMINATION OF THE 10 DAYS OF REPENTANCE BETWEEN ROSH HASHANA AND YOM KIPPUR AND HENCE IS AKIN TO THE 10TH SEFIRAH Rosh Hashanah is the birthday of the universe with the human at the center; ROSH HASHANA (10 DAYS BEFORE YOM KIPPUR) IS CALLED THE BIRTHDAY OF THE WORLD WHEN GOD CREATED THE EARTH AND MAN IS THE EPITOME OF THAT CREATION the following ten days rebuild the structure of existence, culminating with Yom Kippur, when Moses descends from Sinai with the Second Tablets and the promise of hope even after destruction. ROSH HA SHANA IS AN APPRAISAL OF ALL THE NATIONS CULMINATING WITH YOM KIPPUR RESERVED FIRST FOR THE REPENTANT OF ISRAEL AND ISRAEL'S SUPPORTERS. YOM KIPPUR, THE 10TH SEFIRAH IS 'YOM HADIN' - JUDGEMENT DAY ... A 'PERFECT 10' SO TO SPEAK FOR THE REPENTANT FORGIVEN ... AN 11 OR WARNING FOR THE PRESUMPTUOUSLY REPENTANT.
" Love of G-d is one with love of all people..."
In Kabbalistic language this ten-day period is called "binyan ha'malchut", the "building of sovereignity". Psychologically, in this period we rebuild human dignity - the essential value and sanctity of every person's life derived from the fact that each human being is created in the Divine Image. (NO NEED FOR ELUCIDATION HERE)
In the ten days from Rosh Hashanah to Yom Kippur, and especially on Yom Kippur itself, we reaffirm the indispensable nature and inalienable rights of every human being on earth, by virtue of our connection to G-d, who chose each of us to fulfill our unique mission. (EASY TO UNDERSTAND)
And it is this divine ingredient - the dignity of malchut - that was missing from the demonically distorted religious beliefs of the attackers. (MALCHUT COMES FROM THE HEBREW 'MELECH' MEANING 'KINGSHIP' AND THEREFORE MALCHUT IS SOVEREIGN KINGLY RULE WHICH THE ATTACKERS IGNORED SINCE THEY STILL HAD FREE WILL) Love of G-d is one with love of all people, if for no other reason than their being reflections of the Divine Image. THE ATTACKERS THEREFORE ATTEMPTED TO DESTROY THE DIVINE IMAGE THROUGH MURDER AND ATTEMPTED TO DISRUPT THE 10TH SEFIRAH CREATING AN '11TH' CONDITION OF ANARCHY. THE NY FIRE DEPT. , POLICE AND US GOVT. ATTEMPTED TO RESTORE THE 10TH SEFIRAH THROUGH THEIR EFFORTS.
One can have an elaborate structure of all nine elements - a complete intellectual and emotional system - but if you are missing the tenth dimension, malchut, everything is compromised. THE 10TH LEVEL AT WHICH THE DIVINE LIGHT RADIATED ON TO THE GARDEN OF EDEN AND ONTO ADAM AND EVE 'CREATING' THEM, MUST BE PRESENT ALONG WITH THE OTHER NINE LEVELS OF GOD'S DIFFUSED LIGHT. (THERE ARE NAMES FOR EACH LEVEL OR SEFIRAH DENOTING THE INTELLECTUAL, EMOTIONAL, LOVING ATTRIBUTES OF THE CREATOR)
" G-d that transcends all of existence is one with the G-dliness within all of existence..." BECAUSE GOD IS THE CREATOR AND NOT THE CREATION, HE TRANSCENDS IT - HE IS 'KADOSH', HOLY AND IS 'SEPARATE' FROM IT - YET BECAUSE HE HAS STAMPED HIS CHARACTER ON EVERY BEAUTIFULLY CREATED CORPOREAL THING, THERE IS 'GODLINESS' WITH IN ALL HE HAS CREATED WHICH SERVES AS A 'WITNESS' OF HIS BEING GOD AND EXISTING OMNIPRESENTLY AND AUTONOMOUSLY
Malchut (HIS SOVEREIGN KINGSHIP) also represents the Divine Presence within nature and all of existence (THE LIFE HE GIVES TO EVERYTHING AND WITH WHICH HE SUSTAINS EVERYTHING BY HIS RUACH OR 'SPIRIT'). At the pinnacle of Yom Kippur, the conclusion of the Ne'ilah prayer (THE LAST PRAYER OF THE 3RD SECTION OF THE YOM KIPPUR SERVICE WHEN THE GATES OF REPENTANCE ARE CLOSING) , we declare that G-d is One and we repeat seven times, " Havayah hu ha' Elo-him" (JEHOVAH IS ELOHIM (GOD) 7 TIMES )- G-d that transcends all of existence is one with the G-dliness within all of existence. GOD WHO IS SOVEREIGNLY ABOVE HIS CREATION IN EVERY INFINITE ASPECT OF HIS BEING, STILL IS HIMSELF, UNIFIED VIA HIS PERFECT RIGHTEOUSNESS THAT PERMEATES ALL THAT HE HAS PRISTINELY CREATED
Religion that believes in a G-d in Heaven but forgets about G-d's presence on Earth (ten minus one - nine), or annihilates life on Earth (ten plus one - eleven), will be fundamentally bankrupt. IN OTHERWORDS THE 10 SEFIROT MUST ALWAYS REMAIN UNVIOLATED . TO BE SO HEAVENLY MINDED THAT ONE IS NO EARTHLY GOOD EQUALS 9 ... TO BE SO EARTHLY AND WORLDLY MINDED THAT ONE IS NOT HOLY (HEAVENLY) WHICH LEADS TO SIN (MURDER ETC) EQUALS 11 .... TOGETHER THEY CULMINATE IN 9/11 - and all the events of the past year - remind us that science, politics, economy, every one of our systems, must include the tenth dimension, malchut, for us to survive. This tenth ingredient is the key to our security and future.
Above all, malchut (SOVEREIGN KINGSHIP OF GOD) is distinguished for its self-effacement (UTTER HUMILITY) . Malchut is the moon (REPRESENTED BY THE MOON) (ISRAEL AND HER CALENDAR ARE LUNAR WITH THE NATION GOING THROUGH HIDDEN VALLEYS AND EXPOSED MOUNTAIN TOP EXPERIENCES) (ISRAEL AND GOD MUST BE ONE WHEN ISRAEL REFLECTS HIS GLORY), with no light of its own, reflecting the light of the sun. When you shine your own light, you are only as great as you are. You may be very great, but human greatness is always limited, temporal, mortal. When you become a channel that reflects a light greater than your own, when you are dedicated to something beyond yourself, you become greater than yourself. When you dedicate yourself to eternity - and to eternal values - you become eternal. YOU WILL HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. TALMUD SAYS THAT ISRAEL, GOD AND THE TORAH ARE ECHAD (ONE). THE MESSIAH TOO IS 'ISRAEL' - ISRAEL'S DEFENDER AND RECEIVES HIS EFFULGENCE FROM GOD.
Before 9/11, Americans, and much of the rest of the world as well, felt that we had it "all figured out". Our unprecedented prosperity, high standard of living, sophisticated technology, created an illusion of invulnerability (THIS REPRESENTED ONLY THE 'NINE' NOT THE 'TEN'). 9/11 reminded us that we need the tenth truth, malchut, and the humility it espouses.
Religion without the dignity and balance of malchut - without the basic respect for the G-dliness in others - becomes a destructive force. (THAT IS THE 9-11 CONDITION)
Don't cut out the tenth dimension, and don't add to it (DO NOT ADD TO THE TORAH AND DON'T TAKE AWAY FROM THE TORAH ... 'TORAH TEMMIMAH' .. TORAH IS PERFECT 10) . Don't be too "earth-bound" and don't be overly "religious". Don't overindulge in the material and don't escape into the spiritual. Balance and integrate the two. Don't be less or more religious than G-d. Don't be materially or spiritually arrogant. G-d created a universe and entrusted us with the power to refine and not destroy the material world. (WHEN THE 10 SEFIROT ARE ALL PRESENT AND IN BALANCE THERE IS RACHAMIM (PERFECT GRACE) ). ALL MUST WORK TOWARDS THIS OR 'SHALOM' CAN NEVER BE ACTUALIZED. (SHALOM, MEANING 'NOTHING BROKEN, NOTHING WANTING'... PERFECT PEACE IN THE 10 SEFIROT (PERFECT PEACE IN GOD'S LIGHT, COMING INTO THE LIGHT)
Shalom
voice
Full Version: Kabbalistic Interpretation Of 9-11 Rabbi S. Jacobson
kabbala is a MYSTIC (occult, hidden, un-orthodox) branch off of Judaism.
Judaism was perfectly valid BEFORE the NT............but, now, EVERY PERSON ON EARTH is supposed to be a NT CHRISTIAN.
kabbala has never been valid, it has ten gods..........it's satanic.
occult means hidden.............why do they keep it hidden?..............they're ashamed of it............it's evil, shameful, wicked, satanic
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SUFISM is a MYSTIC branch off of the ISLAM (Koran ) religion.
the WHIRLING DERVISHES are one form of SUFISM.
Judaism was perfectly valid BEFORE the NT............but, now, EVERY PERSON ON EARTH is supposed to be a NT CHRISTIAN.
kabbala has never been valid, it has ten gods..........it's satanic.
occult means hidden.............why do they keep it hidden?..............they're ashamed of it............it's evil, shameful, wicked, satanic
JJJJJJJJJJJJJJ
SUFISM is a MYSTIC branch off of the ISLAM (Koran ) religion.
the WHIRLING DERVISHES are one form of SUFISM.
QUOTE(dennis mann @ Oct 15 2007, 11:29 AM) [snapback]124359[/snapback]
kabbala is a MYSTIC (occult, hidden, un-orthodox) branch off of Judaism.
Judaism was perfectly valid BEFORE the NT............but, now, EVERY PERSON ON EARTH is supposed to be a NT CHRISTIAN.
kabbala has never been valid, it has ten gods..........it's satanic.
occult means hidden.............why do they keep it hidden?..............they're ashamed of it............it's evil, shameful, wicked, satanic
JJJJJJJJJJJJJJ
SUFISM is a MYSTIC branch off of the ISLAM (Koran ) religion.
the WHIRLING DERVISHES are one form of SUFISM.
the Rabbi's views are merely a scholarly study in the Kabbalistic approach to
the 9-11 trajedy and was posted for interest's sake
(and Jewish Kabbala does not espouse 10 gods - sounds more like Madonna's
teaching
)best just to skip over it and read the next topic then or some of Shekel's interesting
posts on 'bible numbers'
It's wonderful that Jesus did say :
Nothing that goes into a person from the outside can make him unclean. It's what comes out of a person that makes him unclean. Mark 7:15
It's good to know what some Rabbi's believe, what Jehovah Witnesses believe etc. (when they knock on my 'door' I enjoy sitting with them and ministering the word to them ... IN LOVE .... so that we can be
better equipped to handle their assertions.
I enjoy 'cult' evangelism and I try to witness to Sufi's but it is hard
while they are twirling so fast. I just wait until they stop whirling.
Love in Christ
voice
I don't have a problem looking at what another teaches even if it is false so that others can judge it according to the bible. It is like a spiritual innoculation against future attacks against the body in a paticular area.
For too long have Christians been judged correctly as those who avoid the truth by avoiding contrary opinions. If it be true than let it stand the test of scrutiny, no matter how deep it cuts to the soul. We need not fear looking in the closet when we fear the boggie man. We will find the devils bluff to be just that, a bluff, and nothing more.
For as believers we are in the truth and of the Truth, and the light of scrutiny only bears witness to the truth, though at first we may fret that all our faith has all been in vain --- but in the end you will find your faith was not unfounded. But if one never looks under the bed or in the closet they will never know that they had nothing to fear, just as the bible said.
For too long have Christians been judged correctly as those who avoid the truth by avoiding contrary opinions. If it be true than let it stand the test of scrutiny, no matter how deep it cuts to the soul. We need not fear looking in the closet when we fear the boggie man. We will find the devils bluff to be just that, a bluff, and nothing more.
For as believers we are in the truth and of the Truth, and the light of scrutiny only bears witness to the truth, though at first we may fret that all our faith has all been in vain --- but in the end you will find your faith was not unfounded. But if one never looks under the bed or in the closet they will never know that they had nothing to fear, just as the bible said.
QUOTE(voice @ Oct 15 2007, 01:43 PM) [snapback]124370[/snapback]
QUOTE(dennis mann @ Oct 15 2007, 11:29 AM) [snapback]124359[/snapback]
kabbala is a MYSTIC (occult, hidden, un-orthodox) branch off of Judaism.
Judaism was perfectly valid BEFORE the NT............but, now, EVERY PERSON ON EARTH is supposed to be a NT CHRISTIAN.
kabbala has never been valid, it has ten gods..........it's satanic.
occult means hidden.............why do they keep it hidden?..............they're ashamed of it............it's evil, shameful, wicked, satanic
JJJJJJJJJJJJJJ
SUFISM is a MYSTIC branch off of the ISLAM (Koran ) religion.
the WHIRLING DERVISHES are one form of SUFISM.
the Rabbi's views are merely a scholarly study in the Kabbalistic approach to
the 9-11 trajedy and was posted for interest's sake
(and Jewish Kabbala does not espouse 10 gods - sounds more like Madonna's
teaching
)best just to skip over it and read the next topic then or some of Shekel's interesting
posts on 'bible numbers'
It's wonderful that Jesus did say :
Nothing that goes into a person from the outside can make him unclean. It's what comes out of a person that makes him unclean. Mark 7:15
It's good to know what some Rabbi's believe, what Jehovah Witnesses believe etc. (when they knock on my 'door' I enjoy sitting with them and ministering the word to them ... IN LOVE .... so that we can be
better equipped to handle their assertions.
I enjoy 'cult' evangelism and I try to witness to Sufi's but it is hard
while they are twirling so fast. I just wait until they stop whirling.
Love in Christ
voice
I once wrote an essay on 'Sufism as the bridge for evangelism' in Seminary, and visited some of them. It was interesting. People don't realize that most Muslims are very mystical in their thinking, rather than the extreme legalistic stoic type that the media presents them as. Instead they resemble mystic Roman Catholics a lot.
And for the record, I know that the Kabbalah is a pile of garbage. But it is garbage that many feed off of and if we want them to eat true food it helps them to hear us if they know that we took the time to hear them, and their beliefs that they so highly treasure, even if we do not believe them ourselves.
It's called 'basic human respect', --- a good first step in evangelism.
It's called 'basic human respect', --- a good first step in evangelism.
Shekel says above:
And l for one say AMEN!!
And l for one am thankful Shekel!
This has greatly helped me see and put to rest many things that have haunted me.
The spiritual inoculation is two fold...We are inoculated by the blood and we spread the antitoxin to those that have ears to hear and receive it. Those who's hearts are set on God as Love and Father... will in brokenness.... receive and hear with GREAT JOY THE MOST AWSOME ANSWER THEY COULD NEVER FIND. Jesus Christ And with that they receive TRUE FREEDOM from the never ending toil of trying to get there yourself!
One reason they can't find it Shekel comes from a statement like this:
And l can guarantee you that the combination has more than three numbers and every time you turn the wheel and the lock doesn't open you have to retrace your steps and try to locate the 'deficient cell' if you will, and try again. Over an over and over again trying the endless variables.
I found this in astrological interpretation...Once you get so far with the basic understanding of the planets, houses, aspects and transits you begin to get into deep water...Sure people go on with it and they gain bits and pieces..not unlike the basic workings of Kabbalah and numbers. But in order to bare what they consider fruit (and in this case it's to know the future for any given particular situation) precision is critical...and the critical precision is the catch 22...Because nothing is static...It's always moving and changing. (That's why we need a God that is unchanging.) You can have your calculations down pat and all of a sudden a new variable enters the picture...It changes everything. And when one variable enters in it has a chain reaction. Sure people luck out and can even give general interpretations but it's dust in the wind.
Precision is critical and God almighty is the only thing precise and we can't know him this way and live.
Now l know in an esoteric sense they will tell you they are trying to obtain Godhood. To have God birthed in them to become like God...but every astrologer or mystic that uses this method are lying to themselves because they sin every day and know it!
And....They see their own demise coming on the wheel of misfortune.
We are suppose to have child like faith.
There's pride in knowledge.... loneliness and eventually broken shame... at the time wasted in trying to obtain what we were never meant to have.
Ok...Since l had an emotional moment and posted this out of order on the other string I'll bring it over here because it's worthy of a repost. Much of it should be introductory to the codes. But maybe not. Let God's wisdom rule.
http://www.bible-codes.org/acrostic-balanc...e-code-full.htm
[quote]Posted on: Yesterday, 10:49 AM
QUOTE
I don't have a problem looking at what another teaches even if it is false so that others can judge it according to the bible. It is like a spiritual inoculation against future attacks against the body in a particular area.
For too long have Christians been judged correctly as those who avoid the truth by avoiding contrary opinions. If it be true than let it stand the test of scrutiny, no matter how deep it cuts to the soul. We need not fear looking in the closet when we fear the boogie man. We will find the devils bluff to be just that, a bluff, and nothing more.
For as believers we are in the truth and of the Truth, and the light of scrutiny only bears witness to the truth, though at first we may fret that all our faith has all been in vain --- but in the end you will find your faith was not unfounded. But if one never looks under the bed or in the closet they will never know that they had nothing to fear, just as the bible said.
For too long have Christians been judged correctly as those who avoid the truth by avoiding contrary opinions. If it be true than let it stand the test of scrutiny, no matter how deep it cuts to the soul. We need not fear looking in the closet when we fear the boogie man. We will find the devils bluff to be just that, a bluff, and nothing more.
For as believers we are in the truth and of the Truth, and the light of scrutiny only bears witness to the truth, though at first we may fret that all our faith has all been in vain --- but in the end you will find your faith was not unfounded. But if one never looks under the bed or in the closet they will never know that they had nothing to fear, just as the bible said.
And l for one say AMEN!!
And l for one am thankful Shekel!
This has greatly helped me see and put to rest many things that have haunted me.
The spiritual inoculation is two fold...We are inoculated by the blood and we spread the antitoxin to those that have ears to hear and receive it. Those who's hearts are set on God as Love and Father... will in brokenness.... receive and hear with GREAT JOY THE MOST AWSOME ANSWER THEY COULD NEVER FIND. Jesus Christ And with that they receive TRUE FREEDOM from the never ending toil of trying to get there yourself!
One reason they can't find it Shekel comes from a statement like this:
QUOTE
The ten sefirot are the basic building blocks - the spiritual DNA - of all of existence. Exactly ten. Not nine, not eleven. Exactly ten, not more, not less. Precision is critical to all systems. One missing or extra point in a computer program, one deficient or additional cell, can wreak devastating havoc.
And l can guarantee you that the combination has more than three numbers and every time you turn the wheel and the lock doesn't open you have to retrace your steps and try to locate the 'deficient cell' if you will, and try again. Over an over and over again trying the endless variables.
I found this in astrological interpretation...Once you get so far with the basic understanding of the planets, houses, aspects and transits you begin to get into deep water...Sure people go on with it and they gain bits and pieces..not unlike the basic workings of Kabbalah and numbers. But in order to bare what they consider fruit (and in this case it's to know the future for any given particular situation) precision is critical...and the critical precision is the catch 22...Because nothing is static...It's always moving and changing. (That's why we need a God that is unchanging.) You can have your calculations down pat and all of a sudden a new variable enters the picture...It changes everything. And when one variable enters in it has a chain reaction. Sure people luck out and can even give general interpretations but it's dust in the wind.
Precision is critical and God almighty is the only thing precise and we can't know him this way and live.
Now l know in an esoteric sense they will tell you they are trying to obtain Godhood. To have God birthed in them to become like God...but every astrologer or mystic that uses this method are lying to themselves because they sin every day and know it!
And....They see their own demise coming on the wheel of misfortune.
We are suppose to have child like faith.
There's pride in knowledge.... loneliness and eventually broken shame... at the time wasted in trying to obtain what we were never meant to have.
Ok...Since l had an emotional moment and posted this out of order on the other string I'll bring it over here because it's worthy of a repost. Much of it should be introductory to the codes. But maybe not. Let God's wisdom rule.
http://www.bible-codes.org/acrostic-balanc...e-code-full.htm
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All this will seem strange to non-Jews. However, to a large segment of the Jewish population this is their language, and this is the way many of them mystically understand these Hebrew letters. Does not the zayin and the ayin come forth from the yod of the hand of the Balance of Justice, which is a tree of life and light? The way I just spoke is foreign to Gentiles, but to Hasidic Jews who study the Cabbala it is simple speech. For God is using the language and symbols of His people after the flesh to win them. For Yeshua is the Aleph and the Tav, the first and the last, the beginning and the ending! And he is all the letters in between. And by Him all things were created for He is the Word of God! And these letters are no mere impersonal force, but the Word of God is a person! He is the Son of God --- not born by natural birth, but as One who has always been in the bosom of the Father --- The Almighty. But He took upon Himself the form of man, and lived as a man, and died as a man, and rose again by the power of God, having made atonement for sins. He is the New Creation of God. He is the Promised Messiah. And God is using your speech, the Cabbala, to prove to you that He is the Messiah even though the Cabbala up until this day has been used by Satan to lead you astray, pointing to mystic powers to save you rather than Messiah. But that power is not of Him. It is of Baal! But God has defeated Baal. He has plundered him and God now speaks to you in the language of Babylon so that you might believe. For you have left the path and have become as a Babylonian in His sight. Therefore He speaks to you in the foreign tongue which has become your own. Yes, you speak Hebrew --- but your understanding of language is Babylonian. And so He speaks your language so that you may believe that He is who He is. And then He will come! And He will wrap up this age. And He will make all things new. And the Babylonian language will never again be on your lips. For with an uncircumcised lip God speaks to you to the end that you might be circumcised in heart, and not just flesh.
I am a messenger. I do not like speaking Babylonian. I speak neither Hebrew or Babylonian, though by God I speak both. I am not a Jew. I do not want to speak to you because I look silly to us Gentiles. They think I am a mystical fool. But I am a fool for His sake and yours, for He is calling you in the garb of Jew wearing a Babylonian garment. For you are not clothed as Jews. You speak Hebrew but wear Babylonian clothes. (I speak figuratively.) Even if you remove the garment, with what will you cloth yourself? All has become a foreign land to you and even in Israel you remain in exile. You are yet slaves for your sins have not been removed. Messiah alone can wash away yours sins and clothe you and bring you out of Egypt into His heavenly kingdom. It is not so much a place for your feet to stand, but a place for your heart to rest --- like Noah in the Ark. For Yeshua (Jesus) is that Ark. By faith you enter into the Promised land when you believe and acknowledge that He is your Lord and Savior --- the One spoken of in the Law and the Prophets.
I have become a fool to my own people and to the Jew! I think I would rather walk naked 3 years like Isaiah as a sign, then to be seeing signs in clouds! That, to me, is completely ridiculous! But there it is!
The Jew disowns me because I preach Yeshua. They mock me because my Hebrew is imperfect. My brethren mock me because I am sent to the Jew and they do not understand the Jew and think me a fool. Woe is me! A man without a country and a home! Misunderstood by both sides! If it were not for God I would have run. But He watches over ever line and word and letter to do them. Woe am I if I run! Woe am I if I stay! And so I bear the reproach of Messiah, for really it is He that has humbled Himself to speak to you in your mother tongue! For Yeshua is a Jew. Was it not enough for Him to speak Hebrew that He must speak Aramaic also? ---the language and thought forms of Babylon! But Satan has counterfeited the true. For language is God's invention, not his. And pictures and language are both communication tools --they are both languages. And the bible uses images and language to communicate. And those images and words are encoded within the bible itself. And they correct the errors of the Babylonian tongue, having been corrupted by Satan by the hardness of men's hearts. And I long for the day when He removes the tongue of Babylon from the earth, and it is not longer remembered forever. For though God humbles Himself to speak it, He Himself is not in it, and in the end it will disappear like the morning mist. Hasten the day O God! For it is a language never meant for mortal man to speak. Have your way, then, O God. To the Jew, then, I will speak! For your love is deeper than man's thoughts, and the hand of love reaches into the lowest pit to save. A pit of fiery flying vipers. For your rod swallows up the rods of the Babylonians. For their works are works of illusion, but You created the heavens and the earth, and they are sustained by the Word of Your power. Yeshua is the Word of Your power! Heaven and earth will pass away, but your word will never pass away! Not one yod or vav will pass away until all is fulfilled. He is the stone that the builders rejected. Once again the word of the prophets comes to pass:
(If you prefer, you can read the following passage in the ASV found after it instead.)
Isa 28:9 (GNB) They complain about me. They say, "Who does that man think he's teaching? Who needs his message? It's only good for babies that have just stopped nursing!
Isa 28:10 He is trying to teach us letter by letter, line by line, lesson by lesson."
Isa 28:11 If you won't listen to me, then God will use foreigners speaking some strange-sounding language to teach you a lesson.
Isa 28:12 He offered rest and comfort to all of you, but you refused to listen to him.
Isa 28:13 That is why the LORD is going to teach you letter by letter, line by line, lesson by lesson. Then you will stumble with every step you take. You will be wounded, trapped, and taken prisoner.
Isa 28:14 Now you arrogant leaders who rule here in Jerusalem over this people, listen to what the LORD is saying.
Isa 28:15 You boast that you have made a treaty with death and reached an agreement with the world of the dead. You are certain that disaster will spare you when it comes, because you depend on lies and deceit to keep you safe.
Isa 28:16 This, now, is what the Sovereign LORD says: "I am placing in Zion a foundation that is firm and strong. In it I am putting a solid cornerstone on which are written the words, 'Faith that is firm is also patient.'
Isa 28:17 Justice will be the measuring line for the foundation, and honesty will be its plumb line." Hailstorms will sweep away all the lies you depend on, and floods will destroy your security.
Isa 28:18 The treaty you have made with death will be abolished, and your agreement with the world of the dead will be canceled. When disaster sweeps down, you will be overcome.
Isa 28:19 It will strike you again and again, morning after morning. You will have to bear it day and night. Each new message from God will bring new terror!
Isa 28:20 You will be like the person in the proverb, who tries to sleep in a bed too short to stretch out on, with a blanket too narrow to wrap himself in.
Isa 28:21 The LORD will fight as he did at Mount Perazim and in the valley of Gibeon, in order to do what he intends to do---strange as his actions may seem. He will complete his work, his mysterious work.
Isa 28:22 Don't laugh at the warning I am giving you! If you do, it will be even harder for you to escape. I have heard the LORD Almighty's decision to destroy the whole country.
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Isa 28:9 (ASV) Whom will he teach knowledge? and whom will he make to understand the message? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts?
Isa 28:10 For it is precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, there a little.
Isa 28:11 Nay, but by men of strange lips and with another tongue will he speak to this people;
Isa 28:12 to whom he said, This is the rest, give ye rest to him that is weary; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.
Isa 28:13 Therefore shall the word of Jehovah be unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, there a little; that they may go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.
Isa 28:14 Wherefore hear the word of Jehovah, ye scoffers, that rule this people that is in Jerusalem:
Isa 28:15 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with Sheol are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us; for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:
Isa 28:16 therefore thus saith the Lord Jehovah, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner -stone of sure foundation: he that believeth shall not be in haste.
Isa 28:17 And I will make justice the line, and righteousness the plummet; and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding-place.
Isa 28:18 And your covenant with death shall be annulled, and your agreement with Sheol shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.
Isa 28:19 As often as it passeth though, it shall take you; for morning by morning shall it pass through, by day and by night: and it shall be nought but terror to understand the message.
Isa 28:20 For the bed is shorter than that a man can stretch himself on it; and the covering narrower than that he can wrap himself in it.
Isa 28:21 For Jehovah will rise up as in mount Perazim, he will be wroth as in the valley of Gibeon; that he may do his work, his strange work, and bring to pass his act, his strange act.
Isa 28:22 Now therefore be ye not scoffers, lest your bonds be made strong; for a decree of destruction have I heard from the Lord, Jehovah of hosts, upon the whole earth.
I am a messenger. I do not like speaking Babylonian. I speak neither Hebrew or Babylonian, though by God I speak both. I am not a Jew. I do not want to speak to you because I look silly to us Gentiles. They think I am a mystical fool. But I am a fool for His sake and yours, for He is calling you in the garb of Jew wearing a Babylonian garment. For you are not clothed as Jews. You speak Hebrew but wear Babylonian clothes. (I speak figuratively.) Even if you remove the garment, with what will you cloth yourself? All has become a foreign land to you and even in Israel you remain in exile. You are yet slaves for your sins have not been removed. Messiah alone can wash away yours sins and clothe you and bring you out of Egypt into His heavenly kingdom. It is not so much a place for your feet to stand, but a place for your heart to rest --- like Noah in the Ark. For Yeshua (Jesus) is that Ark. By faith you enter into the Promised land when you believe and acknowledge that He is your Lord and Savior --- the One spoken of in the Law and the Prophets.
I have become a fool to my own people and to the Jew! I think I would rather walk naked 3 years like Isaiah as a sign, then to be seeing signs in clouds! That, to me, is completely ridiculous! But there it is!
The Jew disowns me because I preach Yeshua. They mock me because my Hebrew is imperfect. My brethren mock me because I am sent to the Jew and they do not understand the Jew and think me a fool. Woe is me! A man without a country and a home! Misunderstood by both sides! If it were not for God I would have run. But He watches over ever line and word and letter to do them. Woe am I if I run! Woe am I if I stay! And so I bear the reproach of Messiah, for really it is He that has humbled Himself to speak to you in your mother tongue! For Yeshua is a Jew. Was it not enough for Him to speak Hebrew that He must speak Aramaic also? ---the language and thought forms of Babylon! But Satan has counterfeited the true. For language is God's invention, not his. And pictures and language are both communication tools --they are both languages. And the bible uses images and language to communicate. And those images and words are encoded within the bible itself. And they correct the errors of the Babylonian tongue, having been corrupted by Satan by the hardness of men's hearts. And I long for the day when He removes the tongue of Babylon from the earth, and it is not longer remembered forever. For though God humbles Himself to speak it, He Himself is not in it, and in the end it will disappear like the morning mist. Hasten the day O God! For it is a language never meant for mortal man to speak. Have your way, then, O God. To the Jew, then, I will speak! For your love is deeper than man's thoughts, and the hand of love reaches into the lowest pit to save. A pit of fiery flying vipers. For your rod swallows up the rods of the Babylonians. For their works are works of illusion, but You created the heavens and the earth, and they are sustained by the Word of Your power. Yeshua is the Word of Your power! Heaven and earth will pass away, but your word will never pass away! Not one yod or vav will pass away until all is fulfilled. He is the stone that the builders rejected. Once again the word of the prophets comes to pass:
(If you prefer, you can read the following passage in the ASV found after it instead.)
Isa 28:9 (GNB) They complain about me. They say, "Who does that man think he's teaching? Who needs his message? It's only good for babies that have just stopped nursing!
Isa 28:10 He is trying to teach us letter by letter, line by line, lesson by lesson."
Isa 28:11 If you won't listen to me, then God will use foreigners speaking some strange-sounding language to teach you a lesson.
Isa 28:12 He offered rest and comfort to all of you, but you refused to listen to him.
Isa 28:13 That is why the LORD is going to teach you letter by letter, line by line, lesson by lesson. Then you will stumble with every step you take. You will be wounded, trapped, and taken prisoner.
Isa 28:14 Now you arrogant leaders who rule here in Jerusalem over this people, listen to what the LORD is saying.
Isa 28:15 You boast that you have made a treaty with death and reached an agreement with the world of the dead. You are certain that disaster will spare you when it comes, because you depend on lies and deceit to keep you safe.
Isa 28:16 This, now, is what the Sovereign LORD says: "I am placing in Zion a foundation that is firm and strong. In it I am putting a solid cornerstone on which are written the words, 'Faith that is firm is also patient.'
Isa 28:17 Justice will be the measuring line for the foundation, and honesty will be its plumb line." Hailstorms will sweep away all the lies you depend on, and floods will destroy your security.
Isa 28:18 The treaty you have made with death will be abolished, and your agreement with the world of the dead will be canceled. When disaster sweeps down, you will be overcome.
Isa 28:19 It will strike you again and again, morning after morning. You will have to bear it day and night. Each new message from God will bring new terror!
Isa 28:20 You will be like the person in the proverb, who tries to sleep in a bed too short to stretch out on, with a blanket too narrow to wrap himself in.
Isa 28:21 The LORD will fight as he did at Mount Perazim and in the valley of Gibeon, in order to do what he intends to do---strange as his actions may seem. He will complete his work, his mysterious work.
Isa 28:22 Don't laugh at the warning I am giving you! If you do, it will be even harder for you to escape. I have heard the LORD Almighty's decision to destroy the whole country.
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Isa 28:9 (ASV) Whom will he teach knowledge? and whom will he make to understand the message? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts?
Isa 28:10 For it is precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, there a little.
Isa 28:11 Nay, but by men of strange lips and with another tongue will he speak to this people;
Isa 28:12 to whom he said, This is the rest, give ye rest to him that is weary; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.
Isa 28:13 Therefore shall the word of Jehovah be unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, there a little; that they may go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.
Isa 28:14 Wherefore hear the word of Jehovah, ye scoffers, that rule this people that is in Jerusalem:
Isa 28:15 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with Sheol are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us; for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:
Isa 28:16 therefore thus saith the Lord Jehovah, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner -stone of sure foundation: he that believeth shall not be in haste.
Isa 28:17 And I will make justice the line, and righteousness the plummet; and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding-place.
Isa 28:18 And your covenant with death shall be annulled, and your agreement with Sheol shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.
Isa 28:19 As often as it passeth though, it shall take you; for morning by morning shall it pass through, by day and by night: and it shall be nought but terror to understand the message.
Isa 28:20 For the bed is shorter than that a man can stretch himself on it; and the covering narrower than that he can wrap himself in it.
Isa 28:21 For Jehovah will rise up as in mount Perazim, he will be wroth as in the valley of Gibeon; that he may do his work, his strange work, and bring to pass his act, his strange act.
Isa 28:22 Now therefore be ye not scoffers, lest your bonds be made strong; for a decree of destruction have I heard from the Lord, Jehovah of hosts, upon the whole earth.
[quote]Posted on: Yesterday, 10:49 AM
Miki, you are in a position to warn others about the dangers of astrology like few others, so in this way God turns things around for a blessing to others. Thanks!
Thanks Shekel.
It always boils down to ascension...
Becoming like God...
This is why l get uncomfortable with the term 'having Christ birthed in us' It's so two fold and hard to discern truth from error when using these terms...
That's why l simply want to lean on the mercy of his saving blood.
My sins are covered once and for all.
I want to live like l believe that and am grateful. I wish l didn't fall short...
but then that's why he came.
It always boils down to ascension...
Becoming like God...
This is why l get uncomfortable with the term 'having Christ birthed in us' It's so two fold and hard to discern truth from error when using these terms...
That's why l simply want to lean on the mercy of his saving blood.
My sins are covered once and for all.
I want to live like l believe that and am grateful. I wish l didn't fall short...
but then that's why he came.
I have to say I absolutely love these posts. I know that I am not alone out here. A lot of people in the church consider my past very troublesome and therefore they are unwilling to understand what I went through in the occult to get a better handle on their faith. I do not think Christians need to start going out there and knowing too much as to sway them to do evil, but know enough to keep a distance, yet become wiser in the process. What I have learned along the way is a lot of these people in the occult and other religions have take something good from the Lord and morphed it into something evil: the witches symbol, the Egyptian cross, the "ascension" theory etc. I also witness to those who are witches and in various cults. So, to me these posts assist me a lot.
QUOTE(California Dreamin @ Oct 27 2007, 12:40 PM) [snapback]126486[/snapback]
I have to say I absolutely love these posts. I know that I am not alone out here. A lot of people in the church consider my past very troublesome and therefore they are unwilling to understand what I went through in the occult to get a better handle on their faith. I do not think Christians need to start going out there and knowing too much as to sway them to do evil, but know enough to keep a distance, yet become wiser in the process. What I have learned along the way is a lot of these people in the occult and other religions have take something good from the Lord and morphed it into something evil: the witches symbol, the Egyptian cross, the "ascension" theory etc. I also witness to those who are witches and in various cults. So, to me these posts assist me a lot.
Good! That's what these posts are intended to do. God forbid that it should be to entice people into these things, but to educate them, as you say, in the basics so that they can intelligently help other, and with empathy.
Too ofter we trivialize someone's beliefs not realizing how tender they are to a person, although completely false.
My hope is that many people who are into the Kabbalah and other occult practices will find such posts as these while surfing the internet and be challenged as to their beliefs and be strenghtened to turn away from darkness and believe of Jesus.
Many hundreds of people everyday visit this forum, and many of these will believe in all sorts of error, and although they many never identify themselves as members, yet this forum will have nudged them a little closer to the Lord. About a million people have been to this forum since it began four years ago, and of those we can be sure there were many who visited and who were drawn toward Jesus away from various error, including the occult. This forum is an outreach to the unsaved besides just a place for believers to grow and share.
Thanks CD...I have found that LOTS of people in the church have dabbled with many of these things. They see it as a passing phase. Because they were only dabblers they never came to any understanding of the depth of the thing that gave them unclean hands...So they never really repented of it. Some still have books and Buddhas on their shelves.
When confronted because of lingering problems in their lives they're in denial. Many times when l witness they are shocked. They say "Oh I wasn't into that!
Some Pastors don't realize nor utilize all the parts of the body made available to them.
But don't let that stop you. God opens plenty of doors. Seize the opportunities and make the most of them.
When confronted because of lingering problems in their lives they're in denial. Many times when l witness they are shocked. They say "Oh I wasn't into that!
Some Pastors don't realize nor utilize all the parts of the body made available to them.
But don't let that stop you. God opens plenty of doors. Seize the opportunities and make the most of them.
QUOTE(Miki @ Oct 28 2007, 05:36 AM) [snapback]126589[/snapback]
Thanks CD...I have found that LOTS of people in the church have dabbled with many of these things. They see it as a passing phase. Because they were only dabblers they never came to any understanding of the depth of the thing that gave them unclean hands...So they never really repented of it. Some still have books and Buddhas on their shelves.
When confronted because of lingering problems in their lives they're in denial. Many times when l witness they are shocked. They say "Oh I wasn't into that!
Some Pastors don't realize nor utilize all the parts of the body made available to them.
But don't let that stop you. God opens plenty of doors. Seize the opportunities and make the most of them.
When confronted because of lingering problems in their lives they're in denial. Many times when l witness they are shocked. They say "Oh I wasn't into that!
Some Pastors don't realize nor utilize all the parts of the body made available to them.
But don't let that stop you. God opens plenty of doors. Seize the opportunities and make the most of them.
God created us and therefore owns us. He has a right to set the rules for our lives. God's Word indicates that these practices are part of Satan's strategy of evil tricks and deception, designed to lead us astray. Satan and his demons are real beings set on our destruction. Christians are warned to "put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places" (Ephesians 6:11-12).
See: What is the occult?Concerning occult practices, the Israelites were told:
"When you come into the land which the LORD your God is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominations of those nations. There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire [an ancient occult practice], or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. For all who do these things are an abomination [detestable] to the LORD…"
-Deuteronomy 18:9-12a
Astrology (predictions by the planets or moon; horoscopes; sometimes referred to as "observing times" in the Old Testament)</H2>Although the Bible does go into great detail about astrology, it certainly makes its position clear. We should never trust in astrological beliefs or predictions. Astrology is an ancient, heathen practice that leads to disaster. Our lives are not determined by the stars or movement of planets. The Bible warns against the false predictions of astrology (Jeremiah 10:2; 27:9-10; Daniel 2:1-4; 4:7; 5:7-9) and repeatedly condemns the associated practice of worshipping the sun, moon and stars (or "deities or demons associated with them") (Deuteronomy 4:19; 17:2-5; 2 Kings 21:3, 5; Zephaniah 1:5; Job 31:26-28; Jeremiah 8:1-2).
In Isaiah, God sarcastically rebukes men for practicing astrology,
…For you have trusted in your wickedness… Therefore evil shall come upon you… trouble shall fall upon you… Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, And the monthly prognosticators stand up and save you from what shall come upon you. Behold, they shall be as stubble, The fire shall burn them; They shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame…Magic, Spells, Enchantments, Charming, Sorcery, Wizardry, Witchcraft</H2>Research has shown that occult magic is often fraudulent and deceitful illusion - counterfeit miracles. Many books have been written on this subject. In some instances, occult magic or divination are a manifestation of demonic powers or the result of demon possession (Acts 16:16). Of course, the power of Satan and his demons is extremely limited compared to God's power.
-Isaiah 47:10-14a
Those who follow the path of the magic arts are on the wrong path - a road that leads away from God, not toward Him. In one way or another, the end will be disaster. The evil Queen Jezebel practiced witchcraft (2 Kings 9:22) bringing catastrophe on herself and all Israel. Over and over, God denounces those who "conjure spells" (NKJV) and those who practice witchcraft and sorcery. The Bible says that anyone who does these things is detestable to the Lord (Deuteronomy 18:10-12; 2 Kings 21:6; Micah 5:12; Isaiah 47:12; Ezekiel 13:18, 20; Acts 8:11-24; Leviticus 20:27; Exodus 7:11; Revelation 9:21; 22:15).
God warns of the ultimate punishment. Revelation 21:8 says of "…those who practice magic arts …their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur… the second death" (NIV). Those who practice witchcraft (sorcery) will not inherit the kingdom of God (Galatians 5:20-21). These practices are anti-God and are in rebellion against Him.
Many of citizens of ancient Ephesus practiced the magic arts. Those who became Christians realized the foolish error of their former lives and burned their expensive books of magic as the trash they were (Acts 19:19).
The Bible tells how the apostle Paul once dealt with one of these deceivers, a sorcerer and false prophet who led people astray. "Paul, filled with the Holy Spirit, looked intently at him and said, O full of all deceit and all fraud, you son of the devil, you enemy of all righteousness, will you not cease perverting the straight ways of the Lord? And now, indeed, the hand of the Lord is upon you, and you shall be blind, not seeing the sun for a time.' And immediately a dark mist fell on him, and he went around seeking someone to lead him by the hand" (Acts 13:9-11).
Divination, Fortune-telling, Mediums, Spiritism, Necromancy, Familiar Spirits, Wizardry, Seances, Channeling, Clairvoyance, Spirit-guides</H2>The Bible strongly warns people not to consult mediums and spiritists for the truth, but to inquire of God (Isaiah 8:19). Clearly, if those who practiced these arts have any power (beyond being great deceivers), it is not a gift from God (as some falsely claim). The Bible condemns and forbids these practices several times (Deuteronomy 18:9-14; Isaiah 44:25; Jeremiah 27:9; 2 Kings 21:6; 23:24). Divination and Spiritism were despised practices of the heathens (Ezekiel 21:21; Isaiah 19:3; 1 Samuel 28). Scripture says that one of the reasons King Saul died was "because he consulted a medium for guidance" rather than God (1 Chronicles 10:13-14).
The Bible provides examples showing the folly and failures of those who claimed the ability to predict the future based on their own powers or those of spirits (Daniel 2:27, etc.). God calls the word of diviners "nonsense," "lies" and "deception" for foolish people (Ezekiel 13:8; Jeremiah 14:14; Isaiah 44:25). God said, "Woe to the foolish prophets who follow their own spirit and have seen nothing!" (Ezekiel 13:3). If an Israelite lived the deceitful practice of being a medium, it was punishable by death (Leviticus 20:27). The presence of a medium or spiritist among God's people of Israel was considered a defilement (Leviticus 19:31). All these practices take people further from their Creator, the true and living God.
Following omens or signs ....We are not to look to omens or "signs" to direct our lives. The Bible reprimands people for doing this. It is an "abomination" and foolishness (Deuteronomy 18:10-12). Look to God and His instructions for life as provided in the Bible. To do otherwise is to foolishly deceive yourself, or allow Satan and others to deceive you.
Revelation 21:8
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
The Rapture is imminent. Remember Noah, Lot and Jonah, Moses ....all were delivered at the right moment. It is coming.
Well metatron...I use to measure the angles but l threw the books in the burn heap and decided to trust in the shed blood alone and the witness of my life. I'm not 100% so thank God for his intervention.
Thanks for all the information.
Thanks for all the information.
QUOTE(Miki @ Nov 5 2007, 08:21 AM) [snapback]128359[/snapback]
Well metatron...I use to measure the angles but l threw the books in the burn heap and decided to trust in the shed blood alone and the witness of my life. I'm not 100% so thank God for his intervention.
Thanks for all the information.
Thanks for all the information.
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