SATAN'S 11:11 SCHEME: "KNOW THY ENEMY"
http://www.thothweb.com/content-570.html
Here is a New Age site clearly divulging what Satan has planned via the 11:11 binary frequency programming to “activate” our Junk DNA (the “KEY”), unlocking the "DOOR" and triggering "impregnation" of demons into the human host, precipitating apparent "Transformism" into the new enlightened "higher species" (Homo noeticus [man of the mind]) that will pay complete allegiance to "The One" (Antichrist). The 11:11 programming serves to impregnate the Nephilim who will descend down from Orion's Belt into the human initiates, the ultimate deception foretold by Christ "as in the days of Noah, so also shall be when cometh the Son of Man."
This is Satan's mimicking of God's "Outpouring", and the defilement of Christ’s Divine Attribute as the “DOOR” and of “Keeper of the Door” or “Keeper of Heaven’s Gate” described in Revelation 3:7 & 8…
“And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia (Overcomers in Christ) write, ‘These things says He who is holy, He who is true, “He who has the KEY of David, He who OPENS and no one shuts, and SHUTS and no one opens”…’”
FELLOW CHRISTIANS BEWARE & BE AWARE!
-THE SEVEN THUNDERS
Full Version: Satan's 11:11 Scheme
How can anyone not read that and see DEMONIC written all over it?
http://www.thothweb.com/content-570.html
Paul said this almost 2000yrs ago.
2 Thessalonians 2
1: Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2: That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3: Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Galatians 1
6: I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8: But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9: As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
James: 2
5: Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?
6: But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats?
James: 5:1: Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you.
2: Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten.
Jude said this:
3: Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
4: For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
Paul said this in Galatians the first chapter:
7: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8: But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9: As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Heaven forbid.
Lord, please remove the blindfolds and let those who do not see the truth of this to finally... really see.
God bless.
Collegegirl
http://www.thothweb.com/content-570.html
Paul said this almost 2000yrs ago.
2 Thessalonians 2
1: Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2: That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3: Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Galatians 1
6: I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8: But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9: As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
James: 2
5: Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?
6: But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats?
James: 5:1: Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you.
2: Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten.
Jude said this:
3: Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
4: For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
Paul said this in Galatians the first chapter:
7: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8: But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9: As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Heaven forbid.
Lord, please remove the blindfolds and let those who do not see the truth of this to finally... really see.
God bless.
Collegegirl
QUOTE(Collegegirl @ Oct 9 2007, 11:47 PM) [snapback]123820[/snapback]
How can anyone not read that and see DEMONIC written all over it?
http://www.thothweb.com/content-570.html
Paul said this almost 2000yrs ago.
2 Thessalonians 2
1: Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2: That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3: Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Galatians 1
6: I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8: But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9: As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
James: 2
5: Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?
6: But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats?
James: 5:1: Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you.
2: Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten.
Jude said this:
3: Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
4: For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
Paul said this in Galatians the first chapter:
7: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8: But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9: As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Heaven forbid. Lord, please remove the blindfolds and let those who do not see the truth of this to finally really see.
God bless.
Collegegirl
AMEN, Collegegirl!
Truly the Sheep are asleep. (No pun intended.)
Shear evil genius is most cunning and most cleverly effective when it does NOT portray itself in its true colors as the sinister Darkness that it truly is, but instead, when it portrays itself as the Good Light, as deception appearing "like" it is "Christian", espousing blessings in the name of Christ and speaking of seemingly "Christian" brotherhood and sisterhood, but "lacking the love thereof", devoid of the Spirit and the Presence of the Lord, and preaching "ANOTHER GOSPEL".
As the Thoth website proclaims how ONENESS (One Mind) is the “key” for the success of the demonic 11:11 frequency “activation” of people’s Junk DNA for Satan’s spiritual takeover… it clearly points to the GREAT HARLOT of Revelation 17, a strange people with “ONE MIND” that John of Patmos “marveled with great amazement” of which the Angel scolded him, “Why did you marvel?”…
“These are of ONE MIND, and they will give their power and authority to the beast…. For God has put it into their hearts to fulfill His purpose, to be of ONE MIND…” (Rev. 17:13 & 17)
Thank you for your diligence, tenacity and support in unmasking this deception!
Blessings…
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I wrote a book about 11:11... 
I see this as an attack from Satan to discredit it. People in darkness are gathering all sorts of informations to "fill the void" God has placed in every one's heart. "11:11" is no different, and one of the "baggage" people who have not [yet] received the Light add to their "collection of Esoterica.
All they can do is conjecture but they can't solve anything. Only God can.
I am not saying my book says the whole truth because only God is absolute; what I am saying is that the interest about "11:11" is just another "sign of the times"!
In other words, in my book, "11:11" gives glory to God, and not Satan!
I see this as an attack from Satan to discredit it. People in darkness are gathering all sorts of informations to "fill the void" God has placed in every one's heart. "11:11" is no different, and one of the "baggage" people who have not [yet] received the Light add to their "collection of Esoterica.
All they can do is conjecture but they can't solve anything. Only God can.
I am not saying my book says the whole truth because only God is absolute; what I am saying is that the interest about "11:11" is just another "sign of the times"!
In other words, in my book, "11:11" gives glory to God, and not Satan!
Acts 17:21
For all the Athenians and the foreigners who were there spent their time in nothing else but either to tell or to hear some new thing.
2 Tim 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. 5 But you be watchful in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.
We are there.
Thank you 7 and Collegegirl for boldly speaking His Truth.
In Christ,
Chris
For all the Athenians and the foreigners who were there spent their time in nothing else but either to tell or to hear some new thing.
2 Tim 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. 5 But you be watchful in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.
We are there.
Thank you 7 and Collegegirl for boldly speaking His Truth.
In Christ,
Chris
There seems to be a definate line being drawn. If people are not keeping their eyes on Yeshua...then its way to easy in this time to be decieved.
Its like I can see the side the people are taking. Even Christians or people I thought or had heard they were born again believers. (thinking of Pres. Bush here and other politicians that I have heard were believers).
But you can see it also in others. The sad thing is....I appears to me that the great deception is happening.
So much confusion. People don't know what to believe anymore.
Satan can decieve in the brightest of us...if we allow it.
I vote we do what we can to ring the alarm bell.
Perhaps some will listen and step back and seek God and not look to signs and wonders.
The thing is...if you care about someone....you will say something and not stay silent. If I didn't care....I would not even mention it. (this last part is for a special someone)
Collegegirl
Its like I can see the side the people are taking. Even Christians or people I thought or had heard they were born again believers. (thinking of Pres. Bush here and other politicians that I have heard were believers).
But you can see it also in others. The sad thing is....I appears to me that the great deception is happening.
So much confusion. People don't know what to believe anymore.
Satan can decieve in the brightest of us...if we allow it.
I vote we do what we can to ring the alarm bell.
Perhaps some will listen and step back and seek God and not look to signs and wonders.
The thing is...if you care about someone....you will say something and not stay silent. If I didn't care....I would not even mention it. (this last part is for a special someone)
Collegegirl
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoth
THOTH was/is an EGYPTIAN god.
Pharaoh had magicians (occultists) who opposed Moses (and the God of Israel) by duplicating (up to a limit) the miracles of Moses.
the occultists turned their walking sticks into SNAKES.
THOTH was/is an EGYPTIAN god.
Pharaoh had magicians (occultists) who opposed Moses (and the God of Israel) by duplicating (up to a limit) the miracles of Moses.
the occultists turned their walking sticks into SNAKES.
QUOTE(Anne @ Oct 10 2007, 07:58 AM) [snapback]123839[/snapback]
I wrote a book about 11:11...
I see this as an attack from Satan to discredit it. People in darkness are gathering all sorts of informations to "fill the void" God has placed in every one's heart. "11:11" is no different, and one of the "baggage" people who have not [yet] received the Light add to their "collection of Esoterica.
All they can do is conjecture but they can't solve anything. Only God can.
I am not saying my book says the whole truth because only God is absolute; what I am saying is that the interest about "11:11" is just another "sign of the times"!
In other words, in my book, "11:11" gives glory to God, and not Satan!
I'd advise that you research the work of W.E. Bullinger, the long standing definitive Christian authority on the biblical interpretation of numbers. "11" and all its factors and derivatives have to do with disintegration, disorganization, and deterioration; it is the number of "confusion". If scripture tells us that Satan is the "god of confusion", then clearly he is the master of the number "11", the number of "confusion".
True the Lord of Creation is the Author of all numbers, but Satan steals and corrupts the things of God. I don't doubt that the Lord has His Own Divine purpose behind "11:11" because it clearly has to do with “Existential Universal Law and Principles” established by the Great I Am, but laws that Satan can manipulate and use in a corrupt fashion for his diabolical schemes as I have cited.
That is what we are talking about here, “SATAN’S 11:11 SCHEME”, a perversion of the Divine, a counterfeit of the coming “Outpouring of the Spirit”, a satanic FALSE AWAKENING by DEMONS and a twisted version of God’s AWAKENING of His Church, which is “ASLEEP” (DEAD) to the deception and needs to be “AWAKEN”…
John 11:11... These things he said; and after that he said to them: Lazarus our friend (THE CHURCH) SLEEPETH: but I GO that I may AWAKE him (THE CHURCH) out of SLEEP.
Additionally... [11:12. His disciples therefore said: Lord, if he SLEEP, he shall do well.
11:13. But Jesus spoke of his DEATH (Ezekiel’s valley of DEAD bones): and they thought that he spoke of the repose of SLEEP.
11:14. Then therefore Jesus said to them plainly: Lazarus (THE CHURCH) is DEAD.]
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QUOTE(THE SEVEN THUNDERS @ Oct 10 2007, 09:11 PM) [snapback]123896[/snapback]
QUOTE(Anne @ Oct 10 2007, 07:58 AM) [snapback]123839[/snapback]
I wrote a book about 11:11...
I see this as an attack from Satan to discredit it. People in darkness are gathering all sorts of informations to "fill the void" God has placed in every one's heart. "11:11" is no different, and one of the "baggage" people who have not [yet] received the Light add to their "collection of Esoterica.
All they can do is conjecture but they can't solve anything. Only God can.
I am not saying my book says the whole truth because only God is absolute; what I am saying is that the interest about "11:11" is just another "sign of the times"!
In other words, in my book, "11:11" gives glory to God, and not Satan!
I'd advise that you research the work of W.E. Bullinger, the long standing definitive Christian authority on the biblical interpretation of numbers. "11" and all its factors and derivatives have to do with disintegration, disorganization, and deterioration; it is the number of "confusion". If scripture tells us that Satan is the "god of confusion", then clearly he is the master of the number "11", the number of "confusion".
True the Lord of Creation is the Author of all numbers, but Satan steals and corrupts the things of God. I don't doubt that the Lord has His Own Divine purpose behind "11:11" because it clearly has to do with “Existential Universal Law and Principles” established by the Great I Am, but laws that Satan can manipulate and use in a corrupt fashion for his diabolical schemes as I have cited.
That is what we are talking about here, “SATAN’S 11:11 SCHEME”, a perversion of the Divine, a counterfeit of the coming “Outpouring of the Spirit”, a satanic FALSE AWAKENING by DEMONS and a twisted version of God’s AWAKENING of His Church, which is “ASLEEP” (DEAD) to the deception and needs to be “AWAKEN”…
John 11:11... These things he said; and after that he said to them: Lazarus our friend (THE CHURCH) SLEEPETH: but I GO that I may AWAKE him (THE CHURCH) out of SLEEP.
Additionally... [11:12. His disciples therefore said: Lord, if he SLEEP, he shall do well.
11:13. But Jesus spoke of his DEATH (Ezekiel’s valley of DEAD bones): and they thought that he spoke of the repose of SLEEP.
11:14. Then therefore Jesus said to them plainly: Lazarus (THE CHURCH) is DEAD.]
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7 Thunders wrote: -
" .. I don't doubt that the Lord has His Own Divine purpose behind "11:11" because it clearly has to do with “Existential Universal Law and Principles” established by the Great I Am,... "
Absolutely true .
Jesus, the Great I AM is LORD of ALL
Amen.
if He's not Lord of all, He's not Lord at all
Jesus is Jehovah in Human Flesh Who is Alive Now and is Coming
I hear his 'footsteps'
For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. (Romans 8:38-39)
It is so wonderful to be a born again believer, washed and soaked in the atoning Divine Blood of my Lord and Savior and Messiah Jesus Christ. Praise God from whom all blessings flow !
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7 Thunders wrote: -
" .. I don't doubt that the Lord has His Own Divine purpose behind "11:11" because it clearly has to do with “Existential Universal Law and Principles” established by the Great I Am,... "
Absolutely true .
Jesus, the Great I AM is LORD of ALL
Amen.
if He's not Lord of all, He's not Lord at all
Jesus is Jehovah in Human Flesh Who is Alive Now and is Coming
I hear his 'footsteps'
For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. (Romans 8:38-39)
It is so wonderful to be a born again believer, washed and soaked in the atoning Divine Blood of my Lord and Savior and Messiah Jesus Christ. Praise God from whom all blessings flow !
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YES, BUT WHAT YOU ESPOUSE IS A PERVERSION AND CORRUPTION OF IT MASKED WITH A SUPERFICIAL CHRISTIAN FACADE.
Isaiah 5:20 (KJV)
"Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"
Matthew 24:24 (KJV)
”For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.”
Mark 13:22 (KJV)
”For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.”
YOU ARE PRESENTING THE AGE OLD LIE OF THE SERPENT:
Genesis 3:5 (KJV)
"For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil."
JOB 11:11
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
For He knows false men, And He sees iniquity without investigating.
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
He knows who the scoundrels are. And when he sees sin, doesn't he pay attention to it?
King James Bible
For he knoweth vain men: he seeth wickedness also; will he not then consider it?
American Standard Version
For he knoweth false men: He seeth iniquity also, even though he consider it not.
Bible in Basic English
For in his eyes men are as nothing; he sees evil and takes note of it.
Douay-Rheims Bible
For he knoweth the vanity of men, and when he seeth iniquity, doth he not consider it?
Darby Bible Translation
For he knoweth vain men, and seeth wickedness when man doth not consider it;
English Revised Version
For he knoweth vain men: he seeth iniquity also, even though he consider it not.
Jewish Publication Society Tanakh
For He knoweth base men; and when He seeth iniquity, will He not then consider it?
Webster's Bible Translation
For he knoweth vain men: he seeth wickedness also; will he not then consider it?
World English Bible
For he knows false men. He sees iniquity also, even though he doesn't consider it.
Young's Literal Translation
For he hath known men of vanity, And He seeth iniquity, And one doth not consider it!
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7 Thunders wrote: -
" .. I don't doubt that the Lord has His Own Divine purpose behind "11:11" because it clearly has to do with “Existential Universal Law and Principles” established by the Great I Am,... "
Absolutely true .
Jesus, the Great I AM is LORD of ALL
Amen.
if He's not Lord of all, He's not Lord at all
Jesus is Jehovah in Human Flesh Who is Alive Now and is Coming
I hear his 'footsteps'
For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. (Romans 8:38-39)
It is so wonderful to be a born again believer, washed and soaked in the atoning Divine Blood of my Lord and Savior and Messiah Jesus Christ. Praise God from whom all blessings flow !
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YES, BUT WHAT YOU ESPOUSE IS A PERVERSION AND CORRUPTION OF IT MASKED WITH A SUPERFICIAL CHRISTIAN FACADE.
Isaiah 5:20 (KJV)
"Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"
Matthew 24:24 (KJV)
”For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.”
Mark 13:22 (KJV)
”For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.”
YOU ARE PRESENTING THE AGE OLD LIE OF THE SERPENT:
Genesis 3:5 (KJV)
"For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil."
JOB 11:11
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
For He knows false men, And He sees iniquity without investigating.
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
He knows who the scoundrels are. And when he sees sin, doesn't he pay attention to it?
King James Bible
For he knoweth vain men: he seeth wickedness also; will he not then consider it?
American Standard Version
For he knoweth false men: He seeth iniquity also, even though he consider it not.
Bible in Basic English
For in his eyes men are as nothing; he sees evil and takes note of it.
Douay-Rheims Bible
For he knoweth the vanity of men, and when he seeth iniquity, doth he not consider it?
Darby Bible Translation
For he knoweth vain men, and seeth wickedness when man doth not consider it;
English Revised Version
For he knoweth vain men: he seeth iniquity also, even though he consider it not.
Jewish Publication Society Tanakh
For He knoweth base men; and when He seeth iniquity, will He not then consider it?
Webster's Bible Translation
For he knoweth vain men: he seeth wickedness also; will he not then consider it?
World English Bible
For he knows false men. He sees iniquity also, even though he doesn't consider it.
Young's Literal Translation
For he hath known men of vanity, And He seeth iniquity, And one doth not consider it!
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7 Thunders wrote: -
" .. I don't doubt that the Lord has His Own Divine purpose behind "11:11" because it clearly has to do with “Existential Universal Law and Principles” established by the Great I Am,... "
Absolutely true .
Jesus, the Great I AM is LORD of ALL
Amen.
if He's not Lord of all, He's not Lord at all
Jesus is Jehovah in Human Flesh Who is Alive Now and is Coming
I hear his 'footsteps'
For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. (Romans 8:38-39)
It is so wonderful to be a born again believer, washed and soaked in the atoning Divine Blood of my Lord and Savior and Messiah Jesus Christ. Praise God from whom all blessings flow !
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YES, BUT WHAT YOU ESPOUSE IS A PERVERSION AND CORRUPTION OF IT MASKED WITH A SUPERFICIAL CHRISTIAN FACADE.
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you sound ......... angry
Scripture cautions us not to be harsh and judgmental of others because neither are we perfect and free from error. The admonition not to regard the speck in your neighbor's eye before removing the log from your own eye finds parallels in many scriptures. Rather than justify ourselves and blame others, we should look into ourselves for having such feelings of resentment. We should look into ourselves for where we may have been at fault, and from that starting point we can sincerely strive for peace with God.
Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment that you pronounce you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, "Let me take the speck out of your eye," when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye. Matthew 7.1-5
“But the Fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. Against such things there is no law.” Galatians 5:22-23
For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. (Romans 8:38-39)
God bless you brother, may the peace of God comfort you
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7 Thunders wrote: -
" .. I don't doubt that the Lord has His Own Divine purpose behind "11:11" because it clearly has to do with “Existential Universal Law and Principles” established by the Great I Am,... "
Absolutely true .
Jesus, the Great I AM is LORD of ALL
Amen.
if He's not Lord of all, He's not Lord at all
Jesus is Jehovah in Human Flesh Who is Alive Now and is Coming
I hear his 'footsteps'
For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. (Romans 8:38-39)
It is so wonderful to be a born again believer, washed and soaked in the atoning Divine Blood of my Lord and Savior and Messiah Jesus Christ. Praise God from whom all blessings flow !
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YES, BUT WHAT YOU ESPOUSE IS A PERVERSION AND CORRUPTION OF IT MASKED WITH A SUPERFICIAL CHRISTIAN FACADE.
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you sound ......... angry
Scripture cautions us not to be harsh and judgmental of others because neither are we perfect and free from error. The admonition not to regard the speck in your neighbor's eye before removing the log from your own eye finds parallels in many scriptures. Rather than justify ourselves and blame others, we should look into ourselves for having such feelings of resentment. We should look into ourselves for where we may have been at fault, and from that starting point we can sincerely strive for peace with God.
Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment that you pronounce you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, "Let me take the speck out of your eye," when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye. Matthew 7.1-5
“But the Fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. Against such things there is no law.” Galatians 5:22-23
For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. (Romans 8:38-39)
God bless you brother, may the peace of God comfort you
Seven...If 11 is the number of confusion there is only one reason why... 
Because if there is ONLY 1 GOD....
And SOME 1 ELSE comes along and adds himself to the mix...IT BRINGS CONFUSION!
Seven...You can't borrow from the bad boys without paying a price.
Much of your information comes from 2 sources. If you trespass and take something the devil conjured and try to use it for good, you will pay a price. Ask me...I know. Best to stick with what's revealed in GODS WORD, and leave the revelation offered up by the other for his own demise.
Back to the Cosa Nostra as an example...We've all watched those movies...You can't take from them without a price and the devils good about keeping track.
When you trespass he has a legal right to touch you.
Because if there is ONLY 1 GOD....
And SOME 1 ELSE comes along and adds himself to the mix...IT BRINGS CONFUSION!
Seven...You can't borrow from the bad boys without paying a price.
Much of your information comes from 2 sources. If you trespass and take something the devil conjured and try to use it for good, you will pay a price. Ask me...I know. Best to stick with what's revealed in GODS WORD, and leave the revelation offered up by the other for his own demise.
Back to the Cosa Nostra as an example...We've all watched those movies...You can't take from them without a price and the devils good about keeping track.
When you trespass he has a legal right to touch you.
Yes ... Yes Miki AMEN! I agree with you sweetie. The enemy just loves to come along and pervert what is good. I have seen 11:11 for years..... when I do see it just reminds me that the Lord loves me. He even let my daughter be born on this day. Should I think that because of this it is shrouded in some demonic cult... I think not.
Your Friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming
Your Friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming
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Yes ... Yes Miki AMEN! I agree with you sweetie. The enemy just loves to come along and pervert what is good. I have seen 11:11 for years..... when I do see it just reminds me that the Lord loves me. He even let my daughter be born on this day. Should I think that because of this it is shrouded in some demonic cult... I think not.
Your Friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming
Yes Messiahiscoming,
And we already HAVE the victory in Christ Jesus. The devil will send fear mongers among us to condemn us, pray for us, but notice that there is never any comfort in it ... only condemnation. These are like the men who sat with Job and we know how the Lord dealt with them. God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind. We don't need to rant and rave at brothers or sisters, we don't need to whine or cajole them into 'repentance' , or post scriptures in black and white 2 inches high (laughing)... we just will pray for them.
Great post Messiahiscoming.
I love the scripture you posted: Amos 3:7
"Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets."
The critics would like to really know what is happening but cannot receive the Holy Spirit's gentle voice, and therefore THEY actually become tools of the enemy and accusers of the brethren. We shall pray forthem all.
God bless
I have removed 3 offensive posts. Let's try to keep the peace. This isn't a place to come for strife and contention.
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I have removed 3 offensive posts. Let's try to keep the peace. This isn't a place to come for strife and contention.
Amen with thanks Chrio.
James 3:16-18 (King James Version)
16For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.17But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.18And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.
There were 11 curtains in the tabernacle, Exodus 36:14
I love the sermons of Art Katz.
I was listening to his sermon about Strange Fire tonight.
Even in his death....we can get help from the wisdom in the teaching of this man.
You can listen to his sermons. They are in audio forum if you click on the lesson you want to listen to.
I hope these open for you.
Strange Fire
http://64.34.176.235/sermons/SID14620.mp3
9/11 Tragedy
http://64.34.176.235/sermons/SID3144.mp3
http://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownl...leA&show=20
I was listening to his sermon about Strange Fire tonight.
Even in his death....we can get help from the wisdom in the teaching of this man.
You can listen to his sermons. They are in audio forum if you click on the lesson you want to listen to.
I hope these open for you.
Strange Fire
http://64.34.176.235/sermons/SID14620.mp3
9/11 Tragedy
http://64.34.176.235/sermons/SID3144.mp3
http://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownl...leA&show=20
Jesus said that "all power" in heaven and earth belonged solely to Himself.
Why do some of us believe satan has 'power' to do all these 'mighty deeds' some want to attribute to him?
"For this purpose was the Son of God manifested: That He might destroy the works of the devil." DO YOU BELIEVE JESUS FAILED?
Why do some of us believe satan has 'power' to do all these 'mighty deeds' some want to attribute to him?
"For this purpose was the Son of God manifested: That He might destroy the works of the devil." DO YOU BELIEVE JESUS FAILED?
LOL, we should move the 11:11 time to the debate section. I stay out of that area!
I just like the 11:11 because of my dealings with the Lord. He shows me that it is an ascension code from Him for the rapture, but satan found out about it and is using it for evil. Now Christians cannot enjoy things from God because they are scared it came from the devil! I came from paganism and find that we took Christian things and perverted them, not the other way around.
I just like the 11:11 because of my dealings with the Lord. He shows me that it is an ascension code from Him for the rapture, but satan found out about it and is using it for evil. Now Christians cannot enjoy things from God because they are scared it came from the devil! I came from paganism and find that we took Christian things and perverted them, not the other way around.
Check out Revelation "9:11" and 17:8
This is my first post..(yay me!)
I decided to join this forum after finding (and reading) this thread by searching "Christian view of 11:11" in Yahoo. I have a long, hard to explain 11:11 story that I just experienced, and I can tell you that I would never, ever think Satan was involved, no matter how many people post really angry, big, bold letters on the internet about it. I think I'm gonna have to start way back to properly explain what happened, so get comfy if you're interested. I can tell you it affected me enough to sit here now and spend my work day typing about it, not knowing who this would help, if anyone... or if anyone will even bother reading this, but here goes...
I grew up in a somewhat "confused" Christian household, before my parents got together, my Dad was in prison, as was my Mom's brother. They knew eachother and one day my Mom went to visit her brother and ended up meeting my Dad. She was a Christian and my Dad got into it too, but there was always the drugs, anger, fights, bikes, prison buddies (things that came along with my Dad)...you got the picture.
Anyway, Dad was very heavily into dark spiritual stuff, real magic, (I believe channelling and other such things) and some seriously scary things before he met my Mom, and he never thought to spare such information and freaky stories from me while I grew up, so I've always been aware of things that are unseen, good and bad.
My parent's talked alot about Christianity and numbers, so I always knew numbers had a significance of some kind, and they aren't just for adding up the cell phone bills.
I asked Jesus into my heart when I was little, I think I was 7. All I understood then was that I had to believe that Christ died for us, and that if I sinned, I had to ask for forgiveness, forgive everyone else, and try not to do it again. I carried that "close-but-no-cigar" belief on until about a week ago.
When I was younger, I was a good kid. I didn't want God to catch me doing bad things, because I knew it upset him, and I knew he rewarded people according to they're works.
I made the choice at 11 years old to get baptized (fully submerged) because I figured God would be happy with it, I didn't understand what I was doing, I was just shootin' for some brownie points I guess.
So years started to pass, I got older, colder, angrier, heavy into alcohol, drugs, tarot cards, horoscopes, astrology and of course, numerology. I still prayed, but it felt like I was talking to a wall.
I went through a couple years of constant, very vivid, very lucid nightmares, I felt lost and eventually started taking anti-depressants so I'd at least have the energy to get out of bed in the morning.
(This is when I hit the bottom) I became pregnant and lost my baby (This would be the 2nd one I've lost and no, I didn't drink or do drugs when I was pregnant). I almost died, my liver was fried and my eyes went yellow. My 5 year old was in line for ankle surgery that could potentially leave her unable to walk, we had 1 month to find a new house (with no money) the list goes on.
I got to the point where I was crying and completely begging God to make it stop, I told him I need him, I need faith, I need help and I need to understand.... a week or two later we found a house, a really, really nice, really big one. The rent is low and the landlord's ended up knowing my fiance's Dad somehow, so we didn't even need to pay last month's rent, or even a security deposit. I couldn't believe it. I was so happy about it that I decided I would try to get off my anti-depressants the day I move in (despite the warnings from my doctor and very real withdrawl problems that probably would happen)
So we moved in here on October 1st of this year (No problems with withdrawl yet lol... infact, I even quit drinking), and 25 days later my daughter goes in for her surgery. When it was over, they had her in a full, lower-leg fibreglass cast and said she would need to keep it on for 6 months, then she would need to wear a full leg splint for 5-6 months after that.
That news bothered me, of course I was praying the whole time and I tried to stay positive. Anyway, 2 1/2 weeks after surgery she went in to get the cast changed and everything checked over. They took her cast off and never put a new one on, they said she's fine, she doesn't even need the splint. Did I mention this was Sick Kid's Hospital? So she's downstairs walking around and playing right now, she's doing quite well, actually.
Now the 11:11 thing... Right around when all of this good stuff started happening, I started seeing 11:11 and a few other similar numbers like 1:11 10:11 etc... everywhere I looked. If I glanced at the microwave while the timer was counting down it would say 11:11 or 1:11 (you know what I mean). If I looked at the time, if I glanced at a house address while driving or walking by, taxi metres, even clocks set at the wrong time.
At first I thought it was just a coincidence, but as it started happening more and more, I just couldn't ignore it. In fact, it happened a few times that I would look at my clock in my room to see one of those numbers, then later decide to go downstairs to the kitchen for a drink and see those numbers again on the microwave cause the time was set wrong. but seriously, what kind of coincidence is that?
I decided that it was happening enough to tell my fiance about it, and I started to point it out to him whenever it happened, and it definately happened... so much that he started to seriously wonder what was going on....neither of us got creeped out tho, which was weird... I'm quite the chicken, so usually strange things like this would freak me out.
I need to back-track for a sec. About 3 weeks ago I picked up my Bible for the first time in ages for the purpose of reading Revelations. I've always been one of those Christians that fight sleep when a Bible is opened. (at least I'm honest!). But with the world being the way it is today, and with all the apocalyptic talk that's going around, I figured I should dust the ol' book off and have a look.
Before I started reading though, I figured it would be a good idea to close my eyes and ask for some serious help, and while I was praying I asked for some guidance too, because my beliefs, my values, everything...needed a makeover asap, and I knew this by the things surrounding me, the emotions, atmosphere, physical. My whole world. Anyway, when I was done praying, I sat there and read as much as I could, trying hard to understand what I could, then I fell asleep. I did the best I could.
So a couple weeks pass and this 11:11 thing is getting even more frequent, to the point where it's hard to think about much else, and I couldn't brush it off anymore.
I decided to get on the internet and search around for people's interpretations on the meaning of 11:11, remembering that old "Make a wish at 11:11" thing I used to hear as a kid, and knowing most children's stories and superstitions are usually based on something more serious. The first sites I landed on were mostly based on numerology and new age things, so I glanced over them for a sec, then backed away slowly, remembering that I recently renounced that stuff and have to stay away before I get sucked in again, seriously. So I went back to the search results page and landed on a forum that was all for people that constantly experience this 11:11 thing, people from all walks of life, all religions.
Lots of people posted long posts (like this one!) but one of the short ones caught my eye. Someone put up this link: http://www.scripturesforamerica.org/PDF%20...r%20Message.pdf and said something along the lines of: This is what I believe it is. Read it, then tell me if you think I'm wrong.
I clicked on the link and realized that this thing is like 48 pages long... How am I supposed to stay awake for 48 pages of church talk? man... so I put my head down and started praying. I asked God to give me the time, eye power and desire to read this thing only IF he wanted me to. I couldn't even print it out, so I had to stare at the screen the whole time.
Anyway, this was early on in the day, my fiance was gone all day until whenever while he worked a double shift, so I figured I had some time, but I didn't want to start it unless I could finish it, cause I knew the chances of me going back to it again on another day to resume reading were slim.
So I started reading, my phone never rang, I felt a million knew things and gained so much more understanding while I read it, then, just when I was finishing up the last page, my fiance walked in from work. I found it funny the timing was so good.... I went to bed that night with a smile on my face and a happy, comforted, super saved feeling that hasn't gone away like every other feeling I've ever experienced. I feel incredible, and I now understand what it really means to be born-again. The best way I can describe it is to say that I feel like a kid again, in every way, only BETTER.
My post here isn't going to make much sense unless you read what I read, so you might wanna book some vacation time for it lol.
MOVING ON....
So I woke up the next day after sleeping in, with that same smile on my face. My fiance and I had to drive out of town on a really dark, cloudy, no sun kinda day, I think it was last Sunday? it looked like the evening at lunch time, it wasn't nice out.
We were driving on a long, straight stretch of road and the radio was off. It was dark everywhere except for right infront of us where the clouds had opened up (while they were moving quickly) and tons of these really bright sunbeams were shooting out of the clouds directly onto the road infront of us. When that happened, I wished I had my camera to take a picture (I'm a photographer) because it looked so much like a typical "God scene" from a movie or something, it was beautiful. Of course, as soon as I thought that, my fiance pointed out himself that I should have brought it.
I'm not much of a radio person, I'd rather use my iPod or car CD player, but for whatever reason right when the sun started blasting through the clouds infront of us, right after my fiance was done mentioning my camera, I turned on the radio and the song "Falling On" had just started playing. I've heard this song a million times before, but for some reason this time I decided to listen to the words, and the meaning behind the song. I didn't catch the whole drift of the song while it was playing, but it made me feel really good while I looked up at the sun, and while remembering everything I had read and learned the night before. As soon as the song ended, the clouds moved over the sun and I made a mental note to look up the lyrics to that song.
When I got home I fired up my computer and found the lyrics, which are:
When you feel so close to some resolve
And you write the words you’re writing for
But your courage gets dissolved
Into what, I don't know...
When you feel that way again
You have to stop your thinking
And think of what you're here for
And let the rest of your feelings go
You've got to find your balance, You've got to realize
You've got to try to find what's right before your eyes
And if you find you've fallen, and all your grace is gone
Just scream for me and I'll be what you're falling on
When you feel so close to some resolve
And you say the things that you're standing for
Don't let your courage get dissolved
Cause it's then the fear grows
You've got to find your balance, You've got to realize
You've got to try to find what's right before your eyes
And if you find you've fallen, and all your grace is gone
Just scream for me and I'll be what you're falling on
Just give me the word and I’ll be there
Show me the words that I’ve been living for
Just tell me the things you’re not afraid for
It’s do or die, this is either or
Just give me the word and I will be there,
Just give me the word and I will be there!
You've got to find your balance
You've have to realize
You've got to try to find what's right before your eyes
And if you find you've fallen
And all your grace is gone
Just scream for me and I'll be what you're falling on
You've got to find your balance
You've got to realize
You've got to try to find what's right before your eyes
And if you find you've fallen
And all your grace is gone
Just scream for me and I'll be what you're falling on
Ok, so I'm sure alot of you can understand why this song affected me, and why I'm including it in this story. I believe alot of what is said in this song is what God wants us to know he's like, what he's here for, what he'll do for us, what we have to do.
Another thing, the first search result that I clicked on for these lyrics happened to be a site that mentions the meanings of the band's name and other things. Of course, the name of the band that wrote this song is Finger ELEVEN, and as it turns out, they named their band after 11:11, that's what Finger Eleven means. Coincidence? I dunno, but it's cool.
So, all of the good things I've mentioned here have just recently happened, and here I am today just making sure that it's ok that the numbers 11:11 are still popping up everywhere, and I think it is, because if it hadn't I wouldn't be feeling the way I am, and I certainly wouldn't know God the way I should, and if it wasn't for His grace and mysterious ways of reminding his children of his power and presence (in subtle ways that don't induce fear, imagine if a huge angel appeared to you out of nowhere, or God spoke into your ear), I'd be ruined by my lack of understanding if it wasn't for that. I don't think it's possible for me to believe that 11:11 is a satanic thing, because I don't think it's possible for me to believe that satan wants to bring people closer to God.
So that's it I think, have my 2 cents... and as a disclaimer, the 48 page e-book that I read was written by somebody else, there may be a couple points in that book that I'm not sure on, but maybe not...who knows! I certainly don't know everything, but I'd love to hear other people's opinions on that book, it really changed my world around. The overall message is good, and real, thank God.
I decided to join this forum after finding (and reading) this thread by searching "Christian view of 11:11" in Yahoo. I have a long, hard to explain 11:11 story that I just experienced, and I can tell you that I would never, ever think Satan was involved, no matter how many people post really angry, big, bold letters on the internet about it. I think I'm gonna have to start way back to properly explain what happened, so get comfy if you're interested. I can tell you it affected me enough to sit here now and spend my work day typing about it, not knowing who this would help, if anyone... or if anyone will even bother reading this, but here goes...
I grew up in a somewhat "confused" Christian household, before my parents got together, my Dad was in prison, as was my Mom's brother. They knew eachother and one day my Mom went to visit her brother and ended up meeting my Dad. She was a Christian and my Dad got into it too, but there was always the drugs, anger, fights, bikes, prison buddies (things that came along with my Dad)...you got the picture.
Anyway, Dad was very heavily into dark spiritual stuff, real magic, (I believe channelling and other such things) and some seriously scary things before he met my Mom, and he never thought to spare such information and freaky stories from me while I grew up, so I've always been aware of things that are unseen, good and bad.
My parent's talked alot about Christianity and numbers, so I always knew numbers had a significance of some kind, and they aren't just for adding up the cell phone bills.
I asked Jesus into my heart when I was little, I think I was 7. All I understood then was that I had to believe that Christ died for us, and that if I sinned, I had to ask for forgiveness, forgive everyone else, and try not to do it again. I carried that "close-but-no-cigar" belief on until about a week ago.
When I was younger, I was a good kid. I didn't want God to catch me doing bad things, because I knew it upset him, and I knew he rewarded people according to they're works.
I made the choice at 11 years old to get baptized (fully submerged) because I figured God would be happy with it, I didn't understand what I was doing, I was just shootin' for some brownie points I guess.
So years started to pass, I got older, colder, angrier, heavy into alcohol, drugs, tarot cards, horoscopes, astrology and of course, numerology. I still prayed, but it felt like I was talking to a wall.
I went through a couple years of constant, very vivid, very lucid nightmares, I felt lost and eventually started taking anti-depressants so I'd at least have the energy to get out of bed in the morning.
(This is when I hit the bottom) I became pregnant and lost my baby (This would be the 2nd one I've lost and no, I didn't drink or do drugs when I was pregnant). I almost died, my liver was fried and my eyes went yellow. My 5 year old was in line for ankle surgery that could potentially leave her unable to walk, we had 1 month to find a new house (with no money) the list goes on.
I got to the point where I was crying and completely begging God to make it stop, I told him I need him, I need faith, I need help and I need to understand.... a week or two later we found a house, a really, really nice, really big one. The rent is low and the landlord's ended up knowing my fiance's Dad somehow, so we didn't even need to pay last month's rent, or even a security deposit. I couldn't believe it. I was so happy about it that I decided I would try to get off my anti-depressants the day I move in (despite the warnings from my doctor and very real withdrawl problems that probably would happen)
So we moved in here on October 1st of this year (No problems with withdrawl yet lol... infact, I even quit drinking), and 25 days later my daughter goes in for her surgery. When it was over, they had her in a full, lower-leg fibreglass cast and said she would need to keep it on for 6 months, then she would need to wear a full leg splint for 5-6 months after that.
That news bothered me, of course I was praying the whole time and I tried to stay positive. Anyway, 2 1/2 weeks after surgery she went in to get the cast changed and everything checked over. They took her cast off and never put a new one on, they said she's fine, she doesn't even need the splint. Did I mention this was Sick Kid's Hospital? So she's downstairs walking around and playing right now, she's doing quite well, actually
.Now the 11:11 thing... Right around when all of this good stuff started happening, I started seeing 11:11 and a few other similar numbers like 1:11 10:11 etc... everywhere I looked. If I glanced at the microwave while the timer was counting down it would say 11:11 or 1:11 (you know what I mean). If I looked at the time, if I glanced at a house address while driving or walking by, taxi metres, even clocks set at the wrong time.
At first I thought it was just a coincidence, but as it started happening more and more, I just couldn't ignore it. In fact, it happened a few times that I would look at my clock in my room to see one of those numbers, then later decide to go downstairs to the kitchen for a drink and see those numbers again on the microwave cause the time was set wrong. but seriously, what kind of coincidence is that?
I decided that it was happening enough to tell my fiance about it, and I started to point it out to him whenever it happened, and it definately happened... so much that he started to seriously wonder what was going on....neither of us got creeped out tho, which was weird... I'm quite the chicken, so usually strange things like this would freak me out.
I need to back-track for a sec. About 3 weeks ago I picked up my Bible for the first time in ages for the purpose of reading Revelations. I've always been one of those Christians that fight sleep when a Bible is opened. (at least I'm honest!). But with the world being the way it is today, and with all the apocalyptic talk that's going around, I figured I should dust the ol' book off and have a look.
Before I started reading though, I figured it would be a good idea to close my eyes and ask for some serious help, and while I was praying I asked for some guidance too, because my beliefs, my values, everything...needed a makeover asap, and I knew this by the things surrounding me, the emotions, atmosphere, physical. My whole world. Anyway, when I was done praying, I sat there and read as much as I could, trying hard to understand what I could, then I fell asleep. I did the best I could.
So a couple weeks pass and this 11:11 thing is getting even more frequent, to the point where it's hard to think about much else, and I couldn't brush it off anymore.
I decided to get on the internet and search around for people's interpretations on the meaning of 11:11, remembering that old "Make a wish at 11:11" thing I used to hear as a kid, and knowing most children's stories and superstitions are usually based on something more serious. The first sites I landed on were mostly based on numerology and new age things, so I glanced over them for a sec, then backed away slowly, remembering that I recently renounced that stuff and have to stay away before I get sucked in again, seriously. So I went back to the search results page and landed on a forum that was all for people that constantly experience this 11:11 thing, people from all walks of life, all religions.
Lots of people posted long posts (like this one!) but one of the short ones caught my eye. Someone put up this link: http://www.scripturesforamerica.org/PDF%20...r%20Message.pdf and said something along the lines of: This is what I believe it is. Read it, then tell me if you think I'm wrong.
I clicked on the link and realized that this thing is like 48 pages long... How am I supposed to stay awake for 48 pages of church talk? man... so I put my head down and started praying. I asked God to give me the time, eye power and desire to read this thing only IF he wanted me to. I couldn't even print it out, so I had to stare at the screen the whole time.
Anyway, this was early on in the day, my fiance was gone all day until whenever while he worked a double shift, so I figured I had some time, but I didn't want to start it unless I could finish it, cause I knew the chances of me going back to it again on another day to resume reading were slim.
So I started reading, my phone never rang, I felt a million knew things and gained so much more understanding while I read it, then, just when I was finishing up the last page, my fiance walked in from work. I found it funny the timing was so good....
I went to bed that night with a smile on my face and a happy, comforted, super saved feeling that hasn't gone away like every other feeling I've ever experienced. I feel incredible, and I now understand what it really means to be born-again. The best way I can describe it is to say that I feel like a kid again, in every way, only BETTER.My post here isn't going to make much sense unless you read what I read, so you might wanna book some vacation time for it lol.
MOVING ON....
So I woke up the next day after sleeping in, with that same smile on my face. My fiance and I had to drive out of town on a really dark, cloudy, no sun kinda day, I think it was last Sunday? it looked like the evening at lunch time, it wasn't nice out.
We were driving on a long, straight stretch of road and the radio was off. It was dark everywhere except for right infront of us where the clouds had opened up (while they were moving quickly) and tons of these really bright sunbeams were shooting out of the clouds directly onto the road infront of us. When that happened, I wished I had my camera to take a picture (I'm a photographer) because it looked so much like a typical "God scene" from a movie or something, it was beautiful. Of course, as soon as I thought that, my fiance pointed out himself that I should have brought it.
I'm not much of a radio person, I'd rather use my iPod or car CD player, but for whatever reason right when the sun started blasting through the clouds infront of us, right after my fiance was done mentioning my camera, I turned on the radio and the song "Falling On" had just started playing. I've heard this song a million times before, but for some reason this time I decided to listen to the words, and the meaning behind the song. I didn't catch the whole drift of the song while it was playing, but it made me feel really good while I looked up at the sun, and while remembering everything I had read and learned the night before. As soon as the song ended, the clouds moved over the sun and I made a mental note to look up the lyrics to that song.
When I got home I fired up my computer and found the lyrics, which are:
When you feel so close to some resolve
And you write the words you’re writing for
But your courage gets dissolved
Into what, I don't know...
When you feel that way again
You have to stop your thinking
And think of what you're here for
And let the rest of your feelings go
You've got to find your balance, You've got to realize
You've got to try to find what's right before your eyes
And if you find you've fallen, and all your grace is gone
Just scream for me and I'll be what you're falling on
When you feel so close to some resolve
And you say the things that you're standing for
Don't let your courage get dissolved
Cause it's then the fear grows
You've got to find your balance, You've got to realize
You've got to try to find what's right before your eyes
And if you find you've fallen, and all your grace is gone
Just scream for me and I'll be what you're falling on
Just give me the word and I’ll be there
Show me the words that I’ve been living for
Just tell me the things you’re not afraid for
It’s do or die, this is either or
Just give me the word and I will be there,
Just give me the word and I will be there!
You've got to find your balance
You've have to realize
You've got to try to find what's right before your eyes
And if you find you've fallen
And all your grace is gone
Just scream for me and I'll be what you're falling on
You've got to find your balance
You've got to realize
You've got to try to find what's right before your eyes
And if you find you've fallen
And all your grace is gone
Just scream for me and I'll be what you're falling on
Ok, so I'm sure alot of you can understand why this song affected me, and why I'm including it in this story. I believe alot of what is said in this song is what God wants us to know he's like, what he's here for, what he'll do for us, what we have to do.
Another thing, the first search result that I clicked on for these lyrics happened to be a site that mentions the meanings of the band's name and other things. Of course, the name of the band that wrote this song is Finger ELEVEN, and as it turns out, they named their band after 11:11, that's what Finger Eleven means. Coincidence? I dunno, but it's cool.
So, all of the good things I've mentioned here have just recently happened, and here I am today just making sure that it's ok that the numbers 11:11 are still popping up everywhere, and I think it is, because if it hadn't I wouldn't be feeling the way I am, and I certainly wouldn't know God the way I should, and if it wasn't for His grace and mysterious ways of reminding his children of his power and presence (in subtle ways that don't induce fear, imagine if a huge angel appeared to you out of nowhere, or God spoke into your ear), I'd be ruined by my lack of understanding if it wasn't for that. I don't think it's possible for me to believe that 11:11 is a satanic thing, because I don't think it's possible for me to believe that satan wants to bring people closer to God.
So that's it I think, have my 2 cents... and as a disclaimer, the 48 page e-book that I read was written by somebody else, there may be a couple points in that book that I'm not sure on, but maybe not...who knows! I certainly don't know everything, but I'd love to hear other people's opinions on that book, it really changed my world around. The overall message is good, and real, thank God.
I read your whole post!
I am not going to comment on the 11:11 thing, and I don't believe that the thing with the song was a coincidence. By the way, I get nicknamed the "numbers guy" at times. It is my life long study so I certainly can relate, but I do think we have to be careful. But in your case, I really am not sure what to think.
Anyway, welcome to the forum, and glad God made a way for you with the house and with your child. And may He continue to work in your life.
Let me pray for you: "Lord, show this person your truth and your ways, and what all this means. Lead them to you by your power and grace. Answer their "scream" for help. Amen!"
God bless!
Dean (Shekel)
I am not going to comment on the 11:11 thing, and I don't believe that the thing with the song was a coincidence. By the way, I get nicknamed the "numbers guy" at times. It is my life long study so I certainly can relate, but I do think we have to be careful. But in your case, I really am not sure what to think.
Anyway, welcome to the forum, and glad God made a way for you with the house and with your child. And may He continue to work in your life.
Let me pray for you: "Lord, show this person your truth and your ways, and what all this means. Lead them to you by your power and grace. Answer their "scream" for help. Amen!"
God bless!
Dean (Shekel)
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This is my first post..(yay me!)
I read your whole post too.....I've been there/done that.
No one would ever convince me there is anything evil about seeing numbers, at least from my point of view. I see 1 & 4, alone or in combinations....1144, 1411, 4111, etc. It doesn't happen as often now but I was bombarded with them for a time. I still am awakened at 11:41, 4:11 in the night/morning. I just smile and go back to sleep.
Perhaps where the numbers leads you is the key.....it led me to Father.
Thank you for telling your story.
.......Whirlwind
Do the people who write the content for the New Age sites even know what DNA is? It's hard for me to read their material and not chuckle at how they're supposedly activating their junk DNA when that junk ( introns ) has to be taken out before mature mRNA is formed and sent to be translated at ribosomes into proteins that the body needs. I think they should go and get a freaking degree in either molecular biology, biochemistry, physical biochemistry, or something that makes them credible. I feel like chuckin my Biochemistry textbook and saying "just read this and don't talk".
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