Well thanks. I have not seen you present anything that shows creation took place in the passages I posted. The word you boldened to prove that on the 4th day the sun and moon and stars were created is translated into English in the KJV as "made". It has the connotation of fashioned not created as only God can do.
עשׂה ‛āśâh “work on,” “make out of already existing materials.”
Albert Barnes' Notes on the Bible; Albert Barnes (1798-1870)
Brought forth.
Genesis 1:7 And God brought forth (made) the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
עשׂה ‛âśâh
A primitive root; to do or make, in the broadest sense and widest application
Strong’s Hebrew and Greek Dictionaries
Dictionaries of Hebrew and Greek Words taken from Strong's Exhaustive Concordance by James Strong, S.T.D., LL.D., 1890.
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QUOTE (THE SEVEN THUNDERS @ Oct 7 2007, 09:10 PM) 
An 80 feet deep by 1.5 mile long canyon forms in a mere 3 days, and we are spoon fed to believe by the Evolution/Uniformitarians that the Grand Canyon formed in 100s of millions of years by a tiny snaking river called the Colorado River. "Science" has underestimated the power of water.
The Oklahoma Indians have in their oral tradition the account of the Pacific Ocean “suddenly” overrunning the Rocky Mountains out of the west and inundating the continental land in a great cataclysm… clearly this was “inertia” due to a sudden polar shift precipitated by a mass celestial bombardment. Worldwide myths appear to document this event.
Additionally, the Mississippi River Valley has topographical features indicative to massive runoff, and there exists an “ancient shoreline”, a line of dichotomy indicating the boundary of a great inland sea that once went up the Mississippi River from the Gulf of Mexico.
A simple differential estimate between the Texas canyon and the Grand Canyon can easily determine the amount of time it really took for the Grand Canyon to form, where x equals the total duration in days:
1.0m = average depth (in miles) of Grand Canyon (GC)
10.0m = average width of GC
270m = average length of GC
0.013m = average depth (in miles) of Canyon Lake Gorge (CLG)
1.5m = average width of CLG
0.022m = average length of CLG
3 = days that CLG formed
365 = days per year
EQUATION:
x = {[(1.0m × 10.0m × 270m) × (0.013m × 0.022m × 1.5m)] ÷ 3} × 365
x = {[(2,700) × (0.000429)] ÷ 3} × 365
x = {1.1583 ÷ 3} × 365
x = 0.3861 × 365
x = 140.9265 days
Hence, the Grand Canyon formed in approximately 141 days, which is within the one year duration reported in the 270 worldwide recorded accounts of an historical global inundation where the common denominator of an ark, boat, canoe, houseboat, or box was constructed to save a collection of life, i.e. the Flood or Deluge of the Pre-Hebraic Noah, the Greek Deucalion, the Celtic Patriarch, the Babylonian Xisuthrus (recounted by Gilgamos), and the American Indian Manabozo.
Blessings...
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The Oklahoma Indians have in their oral tradition the account of the Pacific Ocean “suddenly” overrunning the Rocky Mountains out of the west and inundating the continental land in a great cataclysm… clearly this was “inertia” due to a sudden polar shift precipitated by a mass celestial bombardment. Worldwide myths appear to document this event.
Additionally, the Mississippi River Valley has topographical features indicative to massive runoff, and there exists an “ancient shoreline”, a line of dichotomy indicating the boundary of a great inland sea that once went up the Mississippi River from the Gulf of Mexico.
A simple differential estimate between the Texas canyon and the Grand Canyon can easily determine the amount of time it really took for the Grand Canyon to form, where x equals the total duration in days:
1.0m = average depth (in miles) of Grand Canyon (GC)
10.0m = average width of GC
270m = average length of GC
0.013m = average depth (in miles) of Canyon Lake Gorge (CLG)
1.5m = average width of CLG
0.022m = average length of CLG
3 = days that CLG formed
365 = days per year
EQUATION:
x = {[(1.0m × 10.0m × 270m) × (0.013m × 0.022m × 1.5m)] ÷ 3} × 365
x = {[(2,700) × (0.000429)] ÷ 3} × 365
x = {1.1583 ÷ 3} × 365
x = 0.3861 × 365
x = 140.9265 days
Hence, the Grand Canyon formed in approximately 141 days, which is within the one year duration reported in the 270 worldwide recorded accounts of an historical global inundation where the common denominator of an ark, boat, canoe, houseboat, or box was constructed to save a collection of life, i.e. the Flood or Deluge of the Pre-Hebraic Noah, the Greek Deucalion, the Celtic Patriarch, the Babylonian Xisuthrus (recounted by Gilgamos), and the American Indian Manabozo.
Blessings...
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If one knows what to look for...you can see the former shore lines of various water levels all over the US. Many areas were once vast lakes, or inland seas where there is dry land now.
I still think the Earth is very old. Much older than six thousand years.
QUOTE (Godsword @ May 23 2008, 09:13 PM)
This is funny. You said I could not say anything scientific, so I did not. I present something that only has to do with the Bible that refutes you and yoou come back with something scientific. The idea that you can parlay the small canyon example to the Grand Canyon is ludicrous anyway.
Why would you resort to science when it is seemingly to your benefit. You are trying to throw the burden of proof back on me without dealing with it is another thing. Tsk, tsk.
Yes the earth is old, God knows it and we do too.
QUOTE (mikem @ Oct 7 2007, 05:01 AM)
A torrent of water from an overflowing lake sliced open the earth in 2002, exposing rock formations, fossils and even dinosaur footprints in just three days.
How does a torrent of water exposing rock formations, fossils, and dinosaur footprints in 3 days actually prove or show that the canyon itself was formed in 3 days?
Can anyone answer that?
Neal C.
QUOTE (Neal @ May 27 2008, 11:38 AM)
QUOTE (mikem @ Oct 7 2007, 05:01 AM)
A torrent of water from an overflowing lake sliced open the earth in 2002, exposing rock formations, fossils and even dinosaur footprints in just three days.
How does a torrent of water exposing rock formations, fossils, and dinosaur footprints in 3 days actually prove or show that the canyon itself was formed in 3 days?
Can anyone answer that?
Neal C.
Well, I have waited for an answer and not replied.
Biblescholar asked a similar thing.
Well?
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