What does Hebrews 6;6 mean?
Dose it mean that .........if i sin, i lose my salvation, .....and can't get saved again?
Some have suggested that.

but , as per J. Grant Swank,........i think he is saying,.............if i sin, and i remain a believer, and confess, and repent,........i can remain saved.

so,.........Hebrews 6;6 must be talking about a believer who sins, and , then, refuses to confess and repent.



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Hebrews 6 (Amplified Bible)
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Hebrews 6
1THEREFORE LET us go on and get past the elementary stage in the teachings and doctrine of Christ (the Messiah), advancing steadily toward the completeness and perfection that belong to spiritual maturity. Let us not again be laying the foundation of repentance and abandonment of dead works (dead formalism) and of the faith [by which you turned] to God,

2With teachings about purifying, the laying on of hands, the resurrection from the dead, and eternal judgment and punishment. [These are all matters of which you should have been fully aware long, long ago.]

3If indeed God permits, we will [now] proceed [to advanced teaching].

4For it is impossible [to restore and bring again to repentance] those who have been once for all enlightened, who have consciously tasted the heavenly gift and have become sharers of the Holy Spirit,

5And have felt how good the Word of God is and the mighty powers of the age and world to come,

6If they then deviate from the faith and turn away from their allegiance--[it is impossible] to bring them back to repentance, for (because, while, as long as) they nail upon the cross the Son of God afresh [as far as they are concerned] and are holding [Him] up to contempt and shame and public disgrace.

7For the soil which has drunk the rain that repeatedly falls upon it and produces vegetation useful to those for whose benefit it is cultivated partakes of a blessing from God.

8But if [that same soil] persistently bears thorns and thistles, it is considered worthless and near to being cursed, whose end is to be burned.

9Even though we speak this way, yet in your case, beloved, we are now firmly convinced of better things that are near to salvation and accompany it.

10For God is not unrighteous to forget or overlook your labor and the love which you have shown for His name's sake in ministering to the needs of the saints (His own consecrated people), as you still do.




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(quote from Swank)
The truth is that Arminians are quite sure of their salvation in knowing that as long as they obey God they are assuredly saved by heaven's grace. Furthermore, If they do lapse--sin--they have an Advocate, Jesus, who is ready to forgive that sin once that believer repents, confesses and then endeavors to go on with life apart from sin.

I would keep this verse in mind -

1Jo 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. I believe this is what is being said here in not so many words -

Heb 6:9 But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak

This is just an example of people who return to dead works to atone for their sins instead of fully relying on Jesus and Jesus alone. satan is very crafty and just as he fooled cain to rely on dead works, he fools many to rely on dead works...they want to earn something and prove that they are worthy, when God Himself tells us no one is worthy and works of the law will not get you anywhere...this is so no man can boast.

boasting is pride and working for something is veiled pride....although God may call those saved by faith to produce works and endure suffering, it is Jesus Himself that produces the works in the lives of believers. they are reliant on Him for the right answer, the proper motivation, which is humbling themselves so that He can work through them....

These are not works of their own merit. Just as God provided Abel with the proper sacrifice to atone for his sins, the same sacrifice is available to all, and of course know it's Jesus and Jesus alone...

We don't see God commending Abel for doing some super human feat...cause he didn't. Abel did what God told him to do...currently God tells us to believe in Him/Jesus and that salvation will come from Him and Him alone...it's His works that save....

Jesus and Jesus alone...and this is very hard concept for man to comprehend because it goes against our natural sin nature to not go out and build the cities of cain....we see thoughout history that it is the natural man that typically accomplishes so much in this world, because they want to prove themselves....God is not impressed with the natural man...He already proved Himself by putting together a universe, what can you bring Him that is acceptable other than faith in what He has already accomplished.....

This type of childlike faith, is a humbling experience because then you know that you can do no good without Him...and day by day, you become more reliant on Him and Him alone and by virtue of that reliance, you actually get to know God because He walks with you....



What does Hebrews 6;6 mean?
Dose it mean that .........if i sin, i lose my salvation, .....and can't get saved again?
Some have suggested that.

but , as per J. Grant Swank,........i think he is saying,.............if i sin, and i remain a believer, and confess, and repent,........i can remain saved.

so,.........Hebrews 6;6 must be talking about a believer who sins, and , then, refuses to confess and repent.



http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?searc...amp;version=45;

Hebrews 6 (Amplified Bible)
Amplified Bible (AMP)

Copyright © 1954, 1958, 1962, 1964, 1965, 1987 by The Lockman Foundation
[AMP at Lockman] [The Lockman Foundation] [Amplified at Zondervan] [Zondervan]

Hebrews 6
1THEREFORE LET us go on and get past the elementary stage in the teachings and doctrine of Christ (the Messiah), advancing steadily toward the completeness and perfection that belong to spiritual maturity. Let us not again be laying the foundation of repentance and abandonment of dead works (dead formalism) and of the faith [by which you turned] to God,

2With teachings about purifying, the laying on of hands, the resurrection from the dead, and eternal judgment and punishment. [These are all matters of which you should have been fully aware long, long ago.]

3If indeed God permits, we will [now] proceed [to advanced teaching].

4For it is impossible [to restore and bring again to repentance] those who have been once for all enlightened, who have consciously tasted the heavenly gift and have become sharers of the Holy Spirit,

5And have felt how good the Word of God is and the mighty powers of the age and world to come,

6If they then deviate from the faith and turn away from their allegiance--[it is impossible] to bring them back to repentance, for (because, while, as long as) they nail upon the cross the Son of God afresh [as far as they are concerned] and are holding [Him] up to contempt and shame and public disgrace.

7For the soil which has drunk the rain that repeatedly falls upon it and produces vegetation useful to those for whose benefit it is cultivated partakes of a blessing from God.

8But if [that same soil] persistently bears thorns and thistles, it is considered worthless and near to being cursed, whose end is to be burned.

9Even though we speak this way, yet in your case, beloved, we are now firmly convinced of better things that are near to salvation and accompany it.

10For God is not unrighteous to forget or overlook your labor and the love which you have shown for His name's sake in ministering to the needs of the saints (His own consecrated people), as you still do.




http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_17969.shtml

(quote from Swank)
The truth is that Arminians are quite sure of their salvation in knowing that as long as they obey God they are assuredly saved by heaven's grace. Furthermore, If they do lapse--sin--they have an Advocate, Jesus, who is ready to forgive that sin once that believer repents, confesses and then endeavors to go on with life apart from sin.
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Jesus did good works, but our SALVATION/REDEMPTION was not bought with His good works (or His sufferings)..........or our good works and sufferings.

Our Redemption was paid for with His DEATH.

a LIFE for a LIFE.
a DEATH for a DEATH.

the wages of sin is DEATH............(not good works or sufferings).

so, someone must DIE for my Redemption.

Either i must die for my sins,.........or Jesus died as my substitute.

If i believe God (and the Gospel), then, the DEATH of Jesus buys my Salvation.

Jesus REQUIRES me to do good works, but my good works do not buy my salvation.

Jesus REQUIRES me to do many things..............worship, belief, prayer, good works, repentance from evil works to good works, bible study, assembling with the Church, water-baptism, BE FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT, love, help the poor, preach the Gospel, make disciples, baptize the disciples, etc

Jesus REQUIRES obedience to HIS WORD................THE WORD OF GOD is not suggestions (the Word is COMMANDMENTS).

Jesus COMMANDS us to love..........whether we feel like it or not..............it is a choice (it's a decision),......it's not an emotion.

emotions sometimes happen, but , to OBEY the WORD is a decision (choice).