Marriage/Divorce/Remarriage/Adultery


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Hey newby....Fall ishere and isn't it wonderful.

Just had this conversation with a friend.....sure it is adultry to remarry unless you are set free by the Christ and the only reason He gave His OK too was prior adultry. He takes that kind of thing rather personally when we snub what He put together.

But remember that knowing what is right from what is wrong is FAR different from making a conclusion or judgement upon the person. What they did is wrong....but if we jump to the next level we humans are so good at jumping to and say "then she (or he) is a bad person", we are wrong. We are not judge another's slave....just pay attention tothe rules the Master gave us.

leia

today, if i commit adultry, Jesus allows my wife to divorce me and re-marry someone else,,,,,,,,,BECAUSE I WAS UN-FAITHFUL.

she is not required to divorce me, but she is permitted to do so.

in similar fashion, if a believer is betrothed to Christ, and is UN-FAITHFUL (the believer cheats on Christ), Christ allows Himself to divorce the believer, since the believer was UN-FAITHFUL.

in other words, CALVINISM and OSAS are not true.

Devorce is wrong.

But for safety of another you are aloud to leave, and even to by some peace for a time, but only for a short time because you are still to work things out.

I feel for those in our churches that have been through this. Even by their own hand. I believe like every sin, that when you ask forgiveness, that this is washed away, never to be remembered again, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't mean that you aren't released from that marriage. Some assume this. When I was going through marriage classes with the paster that married my husband and I...He said that best thing you can do is remove Devorce from your vocabulary. It just shouldn't be there at all!

I confirm - The word of God stands fast - What God has joined together - Let no man break apart.

But - says the God YHVH - when Mans sin comes and breaks apart what God has joined together - You must both repent, and let the Law of the ten commandments again be your guide and strength. Because you first broke the commandment and let sinfull wisdom guide you - corrupt you - then you whished that you had never married - and your love for each other turns to hate - and therefore says the LORD - it is better to divorce than to let the hate dwell into murder - But it is best to repent from the sin, and go back to the commandments - My YHVHs Law of truth and wisdom.



Behold: The Holy 7-10-12 commandments of YHVH


I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery;

§1 - you shall have no other gods before me.

§2 - You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or
that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

§3 - You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing
children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and fourth generation of those who reject me,
but showing steadfast love to the thousandth generation of those who love me and keep my
commandments.

§4 - You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not acquit anyone
who misuses his name.

§5 - Observe the sabbath day and keep it holy, as the Lord your God commanded you.
For six days you shall labour and do all your work.
But the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God; you shall not do any work—you, or your son
or your daughter, or your male or female slave, or your ox or your donkey, or any of your livestock,
or the resident alien in your towns, so that your male and female slave may rest as well as you.
Remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt, and the Lord your God brought you out from
there with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm; therefore the Lord your God commanded you to
keep the sabbath day.

§6 - Honour your father and your mother, as the Lord your God commanded you, so that your days may
be long and that it may go well with you in the land that the Lord your God is giving you.

§7 - You shall not murder.

§8 - Neither shall you commit adultery.

§9 - Neither shall you steal.

§10 - Neither shall you bear false witness against your neighbour, neither shall you covet your neighbour’s
wife. Neither shall you desire your neighbour’s house, or field, or male or female slave, or ox, or
donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbour.

I have divorced three times, all in my days of sin and despair. Since then I have come fully to the Lord and wish to obey Him and please Him.

My first husband abandoned me at my sixth month of pregnancy. I gave my son up for adoption.
My second husband humiliated me by demanding that I have sex with his friends. He liked to watch.
My third husband brought me ingredients to make drugs with, and watched as I sank into a world of corruption, sin, and evil.
I have lived with men whom I was not married to. I have been raped, beaten, drugged, used, and degraded by men who 'loved' me.

I cannot be sorry for having divorced any of these men. Obviously, I have mixed feelings about divorce.

I am forgiven, restored, redeemed, changed and loved by Him who died to save me. Marriage the way He planned it should always be held dear and precious.

I see my parents, married forty years, and my sister, married twelve years, and am so happy for them. Yet I also realize that it was my decisions early in my life that causes me the pain I have today. I have learned to be happy in my solitude, even joyful, as I have my Lord with me now.

I now plan on growing old alone. My last fiance', and my only boyfriend since I came back to God, convinced me that it needs to be this way. I was honest with his questions concerning my past, and though he claimed to be a Christian, he, too, wanted premarital sex while calling me a whore, though by that time he was the first man I had dated in years. It's now been over two years since I broke up with him, and I can see why Paul stated that it was good not to marry. (Since I can contain, I've no fear of hell due to fornication. )

I agree that when the Lord brings two together, they need to stay together. I think, however, that when it's the things of the world that bring two together, it may be another matter entirely.

In Christ, Angela

I feel for you because I too have been divorced. We feel ashamed to tell anyone or even a Christain because we are look down on by alot of by some not all of people who say they are Christains.
Hey in there if God wants you to marry then you will know it believe me.
God did send some one to me and it was a shock. There is no way we would EVER divorce no matter what. We just dont even use the word in our home. I now know what it means when God joins two people together.
Kim

Thank you, Kim. I'm very glad that you were blessed with a holy union, and I pray that it be blessed.

Your friend in Christ, Angela

Thank you for sharing the story Angela.

I am sorry that you had to see all that evil in your life - and I am joyfull that you have found God and that he has restored you from the sin of your past.

God bless you Angela.

In india it was not common for divorce. It is just now that every want to divorce and marrying and remarry. Many people blame western for corrupting india culture. Though i agree partial. Some of them marry for greed. In india when woman is given to man. The woman have to give whatever man ask be it rich or poor. If a man ask for mercedes car the woman should give that to him. I strongly feel this is dowry. I said to mum that when it comes to marriage love comes first and then comes money but this days money comes first and then come love that depends some people wants only money.

This is very cruel world.

Having to divorce is something we shouldnt ever have to do....but then neither should God have had to have given Israel a bill of divorce.
God hates putting away...but sometimes it is the only choice...as He Himself fully knows.



Only in a case where BOTH are believers are they told to remain unmarried/reconcile.
This is because both supposedly being true christians they should be able to get it worked out and live like Christ calls them too.
The reason why Paul doesnt say this to 'the REST' who are believers unequally yoked to a nonchristian, but tells them VERY clearly that they are not in bondage (ie not a 'slave' but free) is because we cannot control unbelievers nor even expect that they will care about obeying a God they do not believe in to begin with.



Thats a very nice sentiment, but 'divorce' should not have had to have been in Gods vocabulary either...and yet it was as proven in Jeremiah.

The God who gave a writ of divorcement surely understands that sometimes there is no choice but to give that writ and then end that covenant because of the continued and unrepented sins of a covenant spouse...as He Himself had to carry out.

Marriage is a conditional covenant...always has been.
When those conditions are broken by one of the spouses, it does give the innocent the right to end that covenant. It is simply fact from Gods whole word...

I run into so many women who have faced the horrors you have sister and it breaks my heart that men can be so cruel.
When someone has gone thru so much because of marriage its completely understandable why they would simply want to be alone the rest of their lives.
You are forgiven and you dont need anyone except Christ alone. If He has someone in your future, so be it, but just knowing that you dont 'need' anyone is so liberating.
I remember after having to leave my second wife over her adultery and how I felt after so many years of torment in that marriage. She had crushed my spirit and my mind so badly that I just couldnt feel anything anymore...no love, no joy....nothing. So much betrayal and even having her trying to 'accidently' take my life for death benefits....it was all just too much to bear.
Finallly understanding that I didnt need anyone but Jesus and Id be ok...of course being a man the sexual urges might have been a bit harder..Im quite sure I dont have the gift of being able to live celibate...at least not very easily.
But knowing that emotionally and spiritually I just really only needed Him.....that was quite a wonderful thing to finallly understand.

But He did have someone else in mind for me. The most wonderful woman in the world. A very precious person that is the embodiment of everything a wife and a friend should be.
Maybe He has it for you to be single the rest of your days....maybe He has someone in mind for you at a certain time....only He knows...as only He knew about my wife Laura.

Its great that we can just lay it all down and follow Him.....

AngelaNPraise....

I'm so sorry to hear about your situation. I am also recently divorced. I believe that God can change things for any of us in a blink of an eye.

I understand about not wanting to get involved with anyone because of what you have been through. But if you do want that.....then I pray that God brings that special someone into your life.

Thank you for sharing a bit of your story. That really touched my heart.

God bless you.

Collegegirl