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togarma
God bless you all - Just a question to admin - can it be redused from 40 to 10 seconds?

Sincerely
Kjetil
excubitor
Good question. The 40 second wait drives me batty.
WhiteKnight
It is mainly got to do with bandwidth. If they reduce it they would be severe server overload which can crash servers.
JohnK
I think this 40 second issue, is related to lack of knowledge about browser windows. (Note: you can have 'multiple windows open', and used from within your browser... you just need to know how.)


From the main window, place your cursor on 'view new posts', then (in your browser) you need to use a 'right' mouse click to open this in a new window. Now that you have a ' window' open that has all the new messages posted, open them, as needed in a new window (using a right mouse click on the 'last post'). The last posted message from that 'thread' will be opened. (you can still open more within that 'thread' from within the 'window' you opened). Just open and close windows (as needed), and move between them as needed. This '40 second thing' should then be a very small problem.


(Note: I tried to post a PDF file that demonstrates this but it is too big...sorry). I can upload it elsewhere, if someone will tell me where it can be posted ( and how to post it).









MrMJS
40 seconds does seem kind of long
excubitor
John, I don't think you are understanding the problem. The problem is the message "Sorry, the board administrator has enabled search flood control. Please wait at least 40 seconds before trying again." which comes up whenever you try to do consecutive search's.

Doing the searches in different windows makes no difference as the 40 second rule is linked to your userid not your browser session ID.
JohnK
QUOTE(excubitor @ Sep 16 2007, 08:27 PM) [snapback]121997[/snapback]
John, I don't think you are understanding the problem. The problem is the message "Sorry, the board administrator has enabled search flood control. Please wait at least 40 seconds before trying again." which comes up whenever you try to do consecutive search's.

Doing the searches in different windows makes no difference as the 40 second rule is linked to your userid not your browser session ID.


That is the problem, consecutive searches. Do one search (window) which shows the current new, items, (in a new window... (from which you then do your individual lookups), and you have no issue with the 40 second rule.
This because you have already done all the searching (in the previous window). The issue only appears when you do any search within 40 seconds of another. But since you have already done one search, which shows all 'new messages', the 40 second rule does not apply.

If you are doing any searches within 40 seconds of each other, yes you will have issues. So do your searches differently (one window that shows all the new posts). If you are jumping all over the place, and not doing 'efficient searches', you will have issues not only with this forum but others as well. Unless of course you work with something like Google who is able to afford entire 'server farms', and share the load of all those requests across those servers within the 'server farm'. In other words you may be overloading the servers on this forum with the number of your requests. Somehow you will have to deal with this, and I deal with it by reducing the number of requests I make of the servers. (Thereby living within the '40 second' rule.).
excubitor
QUOTE(JohnK @ Sep 17 2007, 12:44 PM) [snapback]122008[/snapback]

QUOTE(excubitor @ Sep 16 2007, 08:27 PM) [snapback]121997[/snapback]
John, I don't think you are understanding the problem. The problem is the message "Sorry, the board administrator has enabled search flood control. Please wait at least 40 seconds before trying again." which comes up whenever you try to do consecutive search's.

Doing the searches in different windows makes no difference as the 40 second rule is linked to your userid not your browser session ID.


That is the problem, consecutive searches. Do one search (window) which shows the current new, items, (in a new window... (from which you then do your individual lookups), and you have no issue with the 40 second rule.
This because you have already done all the searching (in the previous window). The issue only appears when you do any search within 40 seconds of another. But since you have already done one search, which shows all 'new messages', the 40 second rule does not apply.

If you are doing any searches within 40 seconds of each other, yes you will have issues. So do your searches differently (one window that shows all the new posts). If you are jumping all over the place, and not doing 'efficient searches', you will have issues not only with this forum but others as well. Unless of course you work with something like Google who is able to afford entire 'server farms', and share the load of all those requests across those servers within the 'server farm'. In other words you may be overloading the servers on this forum with the number of your requests. Somehow you will have to deal with this, and I deal with it by reducing the number of requests I make of the servers. (Thereby living within the '40 second' rule.).

Thanks for the tip on how to live with the 40 second rule.
The question was whether or not the 40 seconds can be reduced to 10 seconds.
Is there an admin who can answer this? Is it because of load on the servers that it is set as high as 40 seconds. Can we try a 10 second wait and see how server load is affected?
JohnK
QUOTE(excubitor @ Sep 17 2007, 12:18 AM) [snapback]122016[/snapback]
QUOTE(JohnK @ Sep 17 2007, 12:44 PM) [snapback]122008[/snapback]

QUOTE(excubitor @ Sep 16 2007, 08:27 PM) [snapback]121997[/snapback]
John, I don't think you are understanding the problem. The problem is the message "Sorry, the board administrator has enabled search flood control. Please wait at least 40 seconds before trying again." which comes up whenever you try to do consecutive search's.

Doing the searches in different windows makes no difference as the 40 second rule is linked to your userid not your browser session ID.


That is the problem, consecutive searches. Do one search (window) which shows the current new, items, (in a new window... (from which you then do your individual lookups), and you have no issue with the 40 second rule.
This because you have already done all the searching (in the previous window). The issue only appears when you do any search within 40 seconds of another. But since you have already done one search, which shows all 'new messages', the 40 second rule does not apply.

If you are doing any searches within 40 seconds of each other, yes you will have issues. So do your searches differently (one window that shows all the new posts). If you are jumping all over the place, and not doing 'efficient searches', you will have issues not only with this forum but others as well. Unless of course you work with something like Google who is able to afford entire 'server farms', and share the load of all those requests across those servers within the 'server farm'. In other words you may be overloading the servers on this forum with the number of your requests. Somehow you will have to deal with this, and I deal with it by reducing the number of requests I make of the servers. (Thereby living within the '40 second' rule.).

Thanks for the tip on how to live with the 40 second rule.
The question was whether or not the 40 seconds can be reduced to 10 seconds.
Is there an admin who can answer this? Is it because of load on the servers that it is set as high as 40 seconds. Can we try a 10 second wait and see how server load is affected?


I deal with this type of issue daily in my work with computers, perhaps you are not understanding the information in my replies.

This forum is based upon rented server space, in other words it is likely shared space with other forums. It is not up to the system admin (Likely Shekel...for this forum), to decide how often someone can make a search. It is up to the owner of the servers who is renting the space to this forum (The Internet Service Provider). If they decide to make it 40 seconds they are the law, the only way this is likely to change is for the forum to be moved to a site that has more servers (and does not implement flood control on server requests from individuals). It may also be possibe for the owner of this forum to pay more for the right to have less than 40 seconds, however it seems unlikely as this would cost more money each month. I am sure if you are willing to pay for the difference he would likely reconsider. I for one consider myself fortunate to have someone willing to pay for this service, and will live within this 40 second constraint. If you feel differently then it is likely up to you to help pay for more services.
WhiteKnight
Btw John i seen your name somewhere. You own a forum right?.
JohnK
QUOTE(WhiteKnight @ Sep 17 2007, 09:43 AM) [snapback]122051[/snapback]
Btw John i seen your name somewhere. You own a forum right?.

No I do not own a forum.

excubitor
QUOTE(JohnK @ Sep 17 2007, 11:06 PM) [snapback]122049[/snapback]

QUOTE(excubitor @ Sep 17 2007, 12:18 AM) [snapback]122016[/snapback]
QUOTE(JohnK @ Sep 17 2007, 12:44 PM) [snapback]122008[/snapback]

QUOTE(excubitor @ Sep 16 2007, 08:27 PM) [snapback]121997[/snapback]
John, I don't think you are understanding the problem. The problem is the message "Sorry, the board administrator has enabled search flood control. Please wait at least 40 seconds before trying again." which comes up whenever you try to do consecutive search's.

Doing the searches in different windows makes no difference as the 40 second rule is linked to your userid not your browser session ID.


That is the problem, consecutive searches. Do one search (window) which shows the current new, items, (in a new window... (from which you then do your individual lookups), and you have no issue with the 40 second rule.
This because you have already done all the searching (in the previous window). The issue only appears when you do any search within 40 seconds of another. But since you have already done one search, which shows all 'new messages', the 40 second rule does not apply.

If you are doing any searches within 40 seconds of each other, yes you will have issues. So do your searches differently (one window that shows all the new posts). If you are jumping all over the place, and not doing 'efficient searches', you will have issues not only with this forum but others as well. Unless of course you work with something like Google who is able to afford entire 'server farms', and share the load of all those requests across those servers within the 'server farm'. In other words you may be overloading the servers on this forum with the number of your requests. Somehow you will have to deal with this, and I deal with it by reducing the number of requests I make of the servers. (Thereby living within the '40 second' rule.).

Thanks for the tip on how to live with the 40 second rule.
The question was whether or not the 40 seconds can be reduced to 10 seconds.
Is there an admin who can answer this? Is it because of load on the servers that it is set as high as 40 seconds. Can we try a 10 second wait and see how server load is affected?


I deal with this type of issue daily in my work with computers, perhaps you are not understanding the information in my replies.

This forum is based upon rented server space, in other words it is likely shared space with other forums. It is not up to the system admin (Likely Shekel...for this forum), to decide how often someone can make a search. It is up to the owner of the servers who is renting the space to this forum (The Internet Service Provider). If they decide to make it 40 seconds they are the law, the only way this is likely to change is for the forum to be moved to a site that has more servers (and does not implement flood control on server requests from individuals). It may also be possibe for the owner of this forum to pay more for the right to have less than 40 seconds, however it seems unlikely as this would cost more money each month. I am sure if you are willing to pay for the difference he would likely reconsider. I for one consider myself fortunate to have someone willing to pay for this service, and will live within this 40 second constraint. If you feel differently then it is likely up to you to help pay for more services.

Yeah maybe,
Is their an admin who can confirm this hypothesis.
I too am happy and willing to live within the 40 second constraint.
However I would rather live within a 10 second constraint.
Perhaps an admin who actually knows the answer could respond
Roxygal
Just email Shekel or one of the mods..it could be that no one has read your question here.
JohnK
QUOTE(Roxygal @ Sep 17 2007, 10:41 AM) [snapback]122061[/snapback]
Just email Shekel or one of the mods..it could be that no one has read your question here.


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