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Bat Yah
9-07-07

i laid down because i was real sleepy all of the sudden.

As i was falling asleep i saw a black banner with USA written on it, and it was falling.
Like it was suspended in the air and then started falling to the ground? Does that make sense?

As i was just writing this out i remembered a vision that was given to me. i'm wondering if that means they are connected somehow?

i'll keep praying.

Shalom



I had forgotten about this vision until now -

Sat, 06 Nov 2004

I was praying before I went to sleep.
As I was praying I started seeing a dark room that had a door with a very bright light coming from behind it.

Because the light was so bright, it illuminated the door and I could see a large map of America on the door. Instead of seeing the states outlined on it, it had our flag on it.

Like if you took our flag and cut it into the shape of America. Does that make sense??

But when it happened it startled me, and I opened my eyes.

This looks like the map-


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flyingsquirrel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Flag
The Black Flag was flown by certain irregular Confederate Army units in the American Civil War of 1861-1865 to symbolize that they would neither give, nor accept quarter; symbolizing the opposite of the white flag of surrender.

The black flag is the traditional anarchist symbol
The Anarchist black flag has been an anarchist symbol since the 1880s. Anarchists use either a plain black flag or a black flag with an "A" and an "O" around it, this symbol is a reference to a Proudhon quote, meaning anarchy is the mother of order .

Black flags are often associated with funerals in the West, particularly state funerals and public mourning.

A black flag was the first and only symbol used by Muhammad to represent his religion.[citation needed] It has also been stated that it will be the flag the army that will fight the Dadjal will carry.
Black Flag is another name for the Jolly Roger, a skull and crossbones on a black background, and is associated with pirates.

The black flag is an Irish Republican symbol dating from the time of the hunger strikes.

The black flag is a racing flag used to summon a driver to the pits.

In yacht racing when the black flag is displayed, you may not pass the startline before the starting signal.
Afghanistan flew a solid black flag from 1880-1901 (see Flag of Afghanistan)


I think the two dreams are related...since the black flag is a traditional symbol of national morning after a tragedy...I think the dreams are saying some national tragedy is comming...one that will make America fall in sorrow...like a Presidential assaissianation...terrorist attack...or natural disaster...
Bat Yah
QUOTE(flyingsquirrel @ Sep 10 2007, 09:50 AM) [snapback]121387[/snapback]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Flag
The Black Flag was flown by certain irregular Confederate Army units in the American Civil War of 1861-1865 to symbolize that they would neither give, nor accept quarter; symbolizing the opposite of the white flag of surrender.

The black flag is the traditional anarchist symbol
The Anarchist black flag has been an anarchist symbol since the 1880s. Anarchists use either a plain black flag or a black flag with an "A" and an "O" around it, this symbol is a reference to a Proudhon quote, meaning anarchy is the mother of order .

Black flags are often associated with funerals in the West, particularly state funerals and public mourning.

A black flag was the first and only symbol used by Muhammad to represent his religion.[citation needed] It has also been stated that it will be the flag the army that will fight the Dadjal will carry.
Black Flag is another name for the Jolly Roger, a skull and crossbones on a black background, and is associated with pirates.

The black flag is an Irish Republican symbol dating from the time of the hunger strikes.

The black flag is a racing flag used to summon a driver to the pits.

In yacht racing when the black flag is displayed, you may not pass the startline before the starting signal.
Afghanistan flew a solid black flag from 1880-1901 (see Flag of Afghanistan)


I think the two dreams are related...since the black flag is a traditional symbol of national morning after a tragedy...I think the dreams are saying some national tragedy is comming...one that will make America fall in sorrow...like a Presidential assaissianation...terrorist attack...or natural disaster...


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Thank you so much flyingsquirrel. This IS VERY helpful with this dream and some other dreams i've had.

I also think this dream is related to a dream i had in 2003 about the Bank of America building in Dallas falling. i will put that dream with this one.

Thank you again.

Shalom and wub.gif
Bat Yah

Dream 2003

My husband had this same dream, except we we not in a hotel, we were standing
outside.

I dreamed my husband & I was in a hotelroom. It was day time.
All I can remember is looking out a large window in the room.
I could see all of downtown Dallas. The sky was clear & a beautiful blue, I
turned & said something to my husband, & when I looked back, there was a
smokey gray cloud right over Dallas.

As I was watching, I started seeing something falling from the sky.
At first I thought it was a bomb, then I could see it alittle better & it was
not a bomb, I don't know what it was, but it crashed into one of the
buildings & the last thing I remember is seeing the building start to fall.
End of dream.

I found out that the building I saw in my dream is the Bank of America building. It is the tallest building in this pic.


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THE SEVEN THUNDERS
BatYah...

Well, actually and scripturally speaking, the color BLACK has always been a symbol of FAMINE, and death by famine, STARVATION. I think we can all agree that it will be wise to see what the Holy Scriptures have to say about the color black.

It has to do with the opening of the 3rd seal and the rider on the black horse in the Book of Revelation, chapter 6:5 & 6.

“And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast (living creature) say, 'Come and see.' And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances (scales) in his hand.

And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts (Four Horses of the Apocalypse) say, 'A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.'”

Consequently, a black flag (banner) with "USA" written across it appears to symbolize that FAMINE and death by FAMINE are coming to the United States, a "GREAT FAMINE".

We can begin to anticipate from the current extremely contrasting and severe weather patterns across the U.S. (and the world), of simultaneous flood and drought, that this will eventually collapse crop productivity causing escalated food prices. But this will only be part of the equation, for "before" the third seal is opened, the second seal is opened, being the rider on the red horse, i.e. "a global war", not the current war in Iraq, but another war that "takes peace from the (whole) earth". This means WWIII will precede the death and famine of the black horse, and will most likely help to precipitate an economic catastrophe and contribute to food shortages and death by famine across the entire United States (and the world).

But we see here a command against the rider of the black horse (Famine) 'thou hurt not the oil and the wine.' Who are the "oil" and the "wine"? These are those Holy People, the Remnant in Christ, sealed up with the Anointing Oil of the Holy Spirit, and those of God who teach (unfermented wine), being "those who know their God and shall instruct many" with the True Teachings; the Great World Famine will not affect them.

Also, we see the symbolism of BLACK as FAMINE in Lamentations 5:10... "Our skin was black like an oven because of the terrible famine."

And Lamentations 4:8 & 9 further punctuate this notion--- "...their visage is blacker than a coal; they are not known in the streets: their skin cleaveth to their bones; it is withered, it is become like a stick. They that be slain with the sword are better than they that be slain with hunger: for these pine away, stricken through for want of the fruits of the field."

My analysis is that this Great Famine will last 7 years as reflected in the mirror image of the 7 years of famine in the ancient account of Joseph of Egypt, and it will superimpose over the 7 Years of Tribulation. But just as God rose up Joseph ("The Increaser") for the ultimate strategic purpose to store up the grain and wealth to survive the famine, so also God will do this again in the coming Great Famine with the rising up of a "new anointing" via the "Joseph Anointing" upon a Remnant of Godly leaders who will store up food and wealth and "instruct many" with the Gospel during this time of Tribulation so that God's Remnant (the oil and wine that shall not be harmed) can sustain during the reign of Antichrist.

Blessings...

-7
Bat Yah
Shalom,

THANK YOU excl.gif i will print this off for study and prayer.

Wow, these verses in Rev. KEEP coming up before me ohmy.gif
I gave them yesterday on a news thread about wheat prices going up.

http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=12265


May the grace of our Lord Yahshua the Messiah be with your spirit, amen.


Thanks again.


QUOTE(THE SEVEN THUNDERS @ Sep 14 2007, 02:03 PM) [snapback]121786[/snapback]

BatYah...

Well, actually and scripturally speaking, the color BLACK has always been a symbol of FAMINE, and death by famine, STARVATION. I think we can all agree that it will be wise to see what the Holy Scriptures have to say about the color black.

It has to do with the opening of the 3rd seal and the rider on the black horse in the Book of Revelation, chapter 6:5 & 6.

“And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast (living creature) say, 'Come and see.' And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances (scales) in his hand.

And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts (Four Horses of the Apocalypse) say, 'A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.'”

Consequently, a black flag (banner) with "USA" written across it appears to symbolize that FAMINE and death by FAMINE are coming to the United States, a "GREAT FAMINE".

We can begin to anticipate from the current extremely contrasting and severe weather patterns across the U.S. (and the world), of simultaneous flood and drought, that this will eventually collapse crop productivity causing escalated food prices. But this will only be part of the equation, for "before" the third seal is opened, the second seal is opened, being the rider on the red horse, i.e. "a global war", not the current war in Iraq, but another war that "takes peace from the (whole) earth". This means WWIII will precede the death and famine of the black horse, and will most likely help to precipitate an economic catastrophe and contribute to food shortages and death by famine across the entire United States (and the world).

But we see here a command against the rider of the black horse (Famine) 'thou hurt not the oil and the wine.' Who are the "oil" and the "wine"? These are those Holy People, the Remnant in Christ, sealed up with the Anointing Oil of the Holy Spirit, and those of God who teach (unfermented wine), being "those who know their God and shall instruct many" with the True Teachings; the Great World Famine will not affect them.

Also, we see the symbolism of BLACK as FAMINE in Lamentations 5:10... "Our skin was black like an oven because of the terrible famine."

And Lamentations 4:8 & 9 further punctuate this notion--- "...their visage is blacker than a coal; they are not known in the streets: their skin cleaveth to their bones; it is withered, it is become like a stick. They that be slain with the sword are better than they that be slain with hunger: for these pine away, stricken through for want of the fruits of the field."

My analysis is that this Great Famine will last 7 years as reflected in the mirror image of the 7 years of famine in the ancient account of Joseph of Egypt, and it will superimpose over the 7 Years of Tribulation. But just as God rose up Joseph ("The Increaser") for the ultimate strategic purpose to store up the grain and wealth to survive the famine, so also God will do this again in the coming Great Famine with the rising up of a "new anointing" via the "Joseph Anointing" upon a Remnant of Godly leaders who will store up food and wealth and "instruct many" with the Gospel during this time of Tribulation so that God's Remnant (the oil and wine that shall not be harmed) can sustain during the reign of Antichrist.

Blessings...

-7

THE SEVEN THUNDERS
QUOTE(BatYah @ Sep 14 2007, 06:08 PM) [snapback]121811[/snapback]

Shalom,

THANK YOU excl.gif i will print this off for study and prayer.

Wow, these verses in Rev. KEEP coming up before me ohmy.gif
I gave them yesterday on a news thread about wheat prices going up.

http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=12265


May the grace of our Lord Yahshua the Messiah be with your spirit, amen.


Thanks again.





You are very welcome, BatYah.

Along the same line as your topic posting, the "BLACK USA BANNER", interpreted as FAMINE coming to the United States, this Divine Word was spoken from God through the American Christian Prophet, Chad Taylor...

Briefly, the Lord has identified the city of STOCKTON, CALIFORNIA, (at the threshold to the California Delta) as a future major world food distribution center during the coming 7-Year Great Famine in the United States. Here the new increasers, "Josephs"; will be raised up; multitudes of people will gather there to live; in the city of STOCKton, food will be STOCKED for the Great Famine; the Lord is going to make it a worldwide famous city where the preaching of the Gospel will be reenergized with the Presence of God and disseminate from Stockton to throughout the world and this will become known as the great “Delta River Revival”.

Stockton is in the center of the world’s most productive agricultural land, the Great Central Valley of California. Here is located the Port of Stockton, 75 nautical miles due west of the Golden Gate Bridge (San Francisco), which is a large inland port set on the San Joaquin River, providing a direct route to the Pacific Ocean and other port cities around the world. The Port of Stockton is the third largest landholder seaport in California and operates a 2,100 acre (8.5 km²) transportation center with berthing space for 17 vessels. In addition, 7.7 million square feet of warehouse storage space is available. Here, is where the food for the Great Famine will be STOCKED.

Today, I live in Los Angeles, but I was born in Stockton and I lived in the Delta as a child because my father was a Superintendent Horticulturist to several major growers on the islands, so I’m quite familiar with this area. My family moved to L.A. 36 years ago when I turned 16 years old, but the Lord has always told me that I would return to Stockton as one of the “Josephs” for the end time to do great exploits and instruct many. It is very key to note that “delta” literally means “door”. In the Holy Scriptures Who is the “Door”? It is Jesus. Additionally, the name “San Joaquin River” is named after “Saint Joaquin”, which is the Spanish version for “Joachim”, said to be the name of the father to Mary, the mother of Christ. This name literally means “Established by God” or “God Establishes”. The Lord showed me that Stockton is aligned at a 17º angle to the town of Bethlehem… this is vitally important, for it has to do with the “Joseph Anointing”, because Joseph was given the tunic (coat) of many colors by his father Jacob (Israel) when he turned 17 year old. This is the “super-abundant prosperity number” of the “Increaser”.

Here are the exact words of the Divine Word from Chad Taylor:

September 4, 2007

Chad Taylor:

"THE DELTA RIVER REVIVAL AND THE PENDING FUTURE OF CALIFORNIA"

I recently heard these words over and over in the Spirit, "THE DELTA RIVER REVIVAL." I heard it stated as if it was a historical event such as, "The Cain Ridge Revival," or "The Welsh Revival." The only difference was that these were specific historical events and the DELTA RIVER REVIVAL was an event yet to happen. I heard it again, "THE DELTA RIVER REVIVAL." It was an unusual moment as I heard these words from the future declaring our present, "THE DELTA RIVER REVIVAL."

The Sacramento-San Joaquin River Delta is an example of an inverted river delta, and one of only a few worldwide is located in Central/Northern California. Created by a massive convergence of the Sacramento and San Joaquin rivers, it's a vast expanse of tributaries and canals that eventually empty into the Pacific Ocean through San Francisco and the Golden Gate. Stockton, California, acts as a "watchman" of the Delta and is located on the San Joaquin River on the eastern edge of the delta and is the seat of the San Joaquin County. The Delta is also a water and energy source for millions of people and one of the world's greatest agricultural resources. It is commonly referred to as the "fruit basket of the world." Again, I heard, "THE DELTA RIVER REVIVAL."

Again, the prophetic words I share below were released after a series of prophetic meetings in Stockton, California. The ministering happens weekly, Friday through Sunday, and we are scheduled through the entire month of September. We hope to continue to push through and raise a clarion call over the state.

THE "DELTA REVIVAL ZONE"--AN EPI-CENTER OF REVIVAL

Stockton, Sacramento, Fresno, Bakersfield, Tracy, Modesto, Visalia, Merced, Chico, Redding and Yuba City were spokes on this "wheel" of revival. Many other cities are connected and related to these cities mentioned above. This zone also impacts the mountain ranges that "guard" this precious resource--Sierra Nevada to the East, the Tehachapi Mountains to the south, and the Coast Ranges and San Francisco Bay to the west. I saw a large red circle covering an aerial view of the state highlighting this "revival zone." God has marked this region to produce some of the most significant signs of revival in Christian history.

I HEARD AN ANGEL DECLARE, "THE YOUTH ARE COMING! THE YOUTH ARE COMING!"

An angelic declaration was being decreed over this region of California. A major influx of youth were about to receive the injunction of the Lord into the Army of God. A great commissioning into this revival was about to take place. Rather than coexisting as "2nd Class" in this army, they were about to receive a major spiritual promotion and begin to take the forefront starting in California, and then nation-wide. A significant sign of this is about to take place that will receive widespread attention. The prison door of their present spiritual position in the Church is about to drastically change. Like Joseph, the pit and prison of present circumstance is going to suddenly be transformed into city-wide authority for revival.

A STOCKPILE OF MIRACLES, SIGNS AND WONDERS IN STOCKTON

Stockton, California, during the historic Gold Rush that dramatically changed the landscape of California and the world, quickly evolved into the SUPPLY LINE for the miners. Stockton is also the location of the largest inland seaport in California. In and around Stockton are thousands of miles of waterways, canals and rivers that comprise the California Delta.

I heard the Lord say, "THE STOREHOUSE AND THE STOCKPILE OF MY PROVISION WILL BE IN STOCKTON, SUPPLYING VITAL PROVISION AND ANOINTING FOR MY MODERN 'MINERS' OR REVIVALISTS. I will have a stockpile of miracles, signs and wonder in Stockton. Many will come to receive their destinies, creative miracles and anointing for revival. The stock and value of Stockton is quickly rising."
"I am even now causing this to happen. You will see this evident in the natural as well as the Spirit. Many will relocate to this city and receive the catalytic anointing inherent in it to impact the world with the Gospel. A great pillar of prayer is rising from this city that will be seen from the uttermost parts of the earth. Watch and see as this comes to pass before your very eyes," says the Lord.

THREE SIGNIFICANT SIGNS IN SAN FRANCISCO

I heard the Lord say, "THREE SIGNIFICANT SIGNS IN SAN FRANCISCO WILL BE FOR A WONDER FOR ALL TO SEE: One will be in the government or governing body of the city; the second will be a major shift in the economy; and thirdly, a sign will be in the very nature of physical substance and environment.
One sign shall capture the attention of the media for 3 days. On the 3rd day, other significant news shall shift the attention of the nation, but it will be for a sign of resurrection and restoration of My law.
One sign will be an alarm that will have a detouring effect on the economy and passions of the city; it will impact the moral fabric of the city displacing millions of dollars in a few short hours of time.

Finally, the last sign will be physical in nature--supernatural shifting the very boundaries of the city restoring the 'old paths' signifying a restoration of the city's destiny and prophetic foundations. A certain death of a historic or primary figure in San Francisco will also make headlines and trigger a 'changing of the guard' and cause a new beginning in the natural and spiritual," says the Lord.

CALIFORNIA FIRES ARE ONLY THE PREREQUISITE FOR SPIRITUAL FIRES

As record-breaking fires have blazed across the state, it is only the opening act of a great spiritual fire to follow. Some of the regions most impacted by these fires will be "fire zones" of revival and evangelism. It is also a sign of the burning away of the old, making way for the new.

God says, "I am restoring the vision that has been buried and it will be revealed by fire. The wood, hay and stubble of men's own efforts--will fail, but the gold and silver of revival will prevail in the coming days. The back draft of My purposes will suddenly hit many, and launch ministries and churches literally overnight. They will have 'stellar success' as they embrace this new day of My visitation, and let go of the stigma of the past with its rules and regulations. They will be a tabernacle of My presence inviting entire cities into My anointing.

This will be highlighted by graphic and poignant miracles that will be so powerful in nature, it will arrest the attention of entire regions filling open arenas and market places with spontaneous gatherings lasting for weeks. These occurrences will spread across the West Coast and the entire nation, setting on fire a course of revival that will defy modern premise and theology shattering the present wineskin. The days of Elijah are here!"

THE CAPTAIN OF THE SHIP IS CALIFORNIA AND WHERE IT SAILS THE NATION WILL SURELY FOLLOW

I saw a picture of a mariner, grasping the wheel of his ship, braving the storm that was lashing out against him. Over the heaving waves and whipping winds, he was overcome as I heard the shout from above, "LAND HO! LAND HO!" The ship of grace had found its harbor. Like Christopher Columbus who sailed the unknown waters of the Atlantic, so is California and her ramification on the nation. Where her bow breaks spiritual waters, breakthrough is sure to follow.

I heard the Lord say, "WATCH THE ECONOMY! WHAT I DO IN CALIFORNIA, WILL SET THE STANDARD FOR THE NATION. A groundswell of economic breakthrough is beginning. Breakthrough will be highlighted by natural events that will, at times, go completely unnoticed, and often, never connected to these events. Others will be clear and validating signs that I am opening up the wells of blessing to equip the army that is consequently being commissioned. Watch for flooding and other signs related to water and waterways--it is only one landmark on the road to revival."

Chad Taylor

Consuming Fire Revival Network
Email: info@consumingfire.com
Miki
I can't imagine going to Ca. to get food...San Francisco won't be hungry though..according to this.
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
QUOTE(Miki @ Sep 15 2007, 09:08 AM) [snapback]121854[/snapback]

I can't imagine going to Ca. to get food...


Well, with that attitude, it's a good thing you weren't in charge of the 150-member Tribe of Israel, saying, “I can’t imagine going to Egypt to get food…”, or else their 300-mile trek to Egypt would have never occurred to escape the famine, and all Israel would have perished in the famine, and the lineage of Christ would have collapsed and ceased to exist, thus not bring forth the Messiah. And they undertook their journey on foot, they walked, through desert; not having the modern car as you do. But, it's easy for you to smugly say this now in the comfort of your home with a fully stocked refrigerator and pantry, for you are not yet starving, nor a fraction of your current body weight, and don't yet look like a walking Auschwitz skeleton… so it’s completely understandable.
Sand
me neither
Miki
Oh Hi Seven...I'm just getting back to read your response. Wow 300 miles on foot with little food! How long could that have taken? Good grief! It must have taken weeks!

Actually you read something into my post that wasn't there. Smugness in light of a full pantry.

If California is a food port ...(spiritually and physically) then great.

Reasoning tells me it wouldn't be the only port. I have another port in mind...

You shouldn't be offended when challenged? ...
but see it as an opportunity to reveal the true Character of Christ in you. cool.gif

end3
Found that out the hard way, I have been "discussing" issues with ex-Christians, and it has taught me several things....Long but enlightening discussion....
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
Miki... Don't be silly... I wasn't offended at all... I learned long ago not to take anything personally... rather, it was Christ in me Who was disappointed.

-7
peacemaker
Well this was a very good read, thanks.
Miki
QUOTE(THE SEVEN THUNDERS @ Sep 21 2007, 05:33 PM) [snapback]122431[/snapback]

Miki... Don't be silly... I wasn't offended at all... I learned long ago not to take anything personally... rather, it was Christ in me Who was disappointed.

-7


Nor was l smug with a pantry full of food.. But maybe it was Christ in you making that summation about my attitude. wacko.gif Don't be so pious.

I'm not mad.. just helping you to stay in alignment ... because l love you so much.. laugh.gif
Miki
But Seven...with all levity aside...this is a serious issue. I don't think there's a grown person in this country that doesn't recognize the curse our food has become...
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