The true Secrets in scripture have evaded you. I read all of your posts from your profile. The first secret that is the most important of all secrets is to ask God for His Spirit. With out the Spirit of God a person will give the kind of answers that I have read in your posts about scripture.

Now I am Going to tell you and everyone on this forum about the two witnesses and you better listen up because their ministry begins in July.
They will shut up the heavens so that no rain, dew, or snow or any moister will fall on earth for 1260 days which is also, forty two months, and a Time Times and half a time.
They will turn all of the water supplies on the earth to blood which will cripple the earth to death. The world of confusion (Babylon) will fall and never rise again.
Faith in Christ alone is the only way to survive threw the great tribulation that will begin in July.
One group will seem to survive by eating each other but the Lord and his saints will destroy them at His second coming, one thousand three hundred and thirty five days, after July.

Dear Godsloft.com,

In putting forward these meanings of yours you have in fact overreached yourself, for it is impossible for you to find a sound basis for them in the Bible. I will now show all people here why you are totally wrong and therefore not led by the Holy Spririt, as you seem to claim.

You quote me and then give me your answer:



My answer:
Aren't you too rash to condemn me the way you now do it here, without first considering the possibility of yourself being the blind one, not me? Well, let Holy Scripture pass judgement! And you even act as foolhardy as to be bound to keep a stiff upper lip in the end, for having no basis whatsoever in Scripture for what you claim. Let both Scripture and time prove it!

You wrote:


My answer:
How lost you are indeed, for if the great tribulation also begins in July, as you claim below, then nobodies ministry can begin. Everyone who reads Matt 24:14 will see that according to Jesus himself the gospel of the kingdom must first be preached, and when that is done the end will come. By the 'end' is here meant the Great Tribulation, which will happen in the beginning of the time of the sixth trumpet. Read Rev 6:12-17 and Hab 3:2 and be convinced of this biblical fact! After the fulfilment of the contents of the sixth trumpet and seal, that is, after the 'end', people will still be alive on this earth. That is why Hab 3:2 says this: "in the midst of the years revive your work!" (KJV which is in accordance with the Hebrew text). This means that God will revive His work approximately in the midst of NT time. If it were true, what you say, that both the two witnesses and the tribulation come in July, then Dan 8:13-14 and Dan 12:6-7 would not describe the two witnesses as people waiting for the 'end' or asking about the 'end'. If you were right they would have no need of asking, for the tribulation (the end) would be there at the same time for all to see and experience! I could enlarge on this in more details but think this should be a foretaste for you to feel and all to know how wrong you are. If you have the right to distort Scripture then I have the right to refute your distortions! In that way your putative divine spirit is put to shame.

You wrote:


My answer:
Let me tell you something very true! While the two witnesses proclaim their message to the whole world there will still be rain and snow, for what is meant by shutting up the heaven is that from whoever dares to contradict the true two witnesses of God shall be taken away his or her part out of the book of life. This is in complete harmony with what Paul the apostle says (2 Corinthians 4:3 ): "even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing." You therefore ought to understand that the rain meant is spiritual, the true baptism by the the Word. All who fight against the two witnesses will be condemned by God, and He has therefore given all people a solemn warning in Scripture. The public period of their ministry will be 3 1/2 year, but still only a small number of mankind will be converted by their preaching.

You wrote:


My answer:
The water supplies meant are all man-made false doctrines of today's fallen Christianity, and all its deviant practices. When the two witnesses refute these doctrines and show them to be false, the doctrines become unsavory like blood-polluted water.

You wrote:


My answer:
It is true that faith in Christ will save, but remember that since Christ is the word of God there will be no Christ to be believed in if the word believed in is distorted by human fiction. That is why there exists such a thing as deception! Your proclamation that the tribulation will start in July is from the Devil himself, for there is no scripture to support your claim. That meaning comes from the flesh and not from God.

You wrote:


My answer:
You are wrong again! Jesus Christ will return in person only on the very last day of all days of this earth. He says so himself and I believe him, don't you? You also should notice that 2 Thess 2 does not say that Antichrist will be destroyed in the SECOND coming of Jesus Christ but rather that this takes place when THE SPIRIT OF HIS MOUTH (that is: his revealing word) devours falsehood. That starts with the coming of the everlasting gospel and terminates with the great tribulation. By then will the ministry of the two witnessed be at an end, and the door of grace will be shut. That is what Rev 15:7-8 foretells. The only way the saints can destroy their enemies is explained in Psalm 149, that is, by using the word, their spiritual sword of might. What you say about the 1335 is rubbish with no basis in Scripture, for the 1335 'days' are a 1335 year period that started in the year 666 AD. That number foretells that from the year 666 CE there will pass 1335 years until the end starts, that is, to 2001 CE. Everyone knows what happened in that year and made a turning point in world history. What the two witnesses receive as answer to their question in Dan 8:13-14 is related to 2001 CE. In Isa 32;10 it is said that the Lord will add a certain amount of days to this year, then comes the end. This is part of the secret that the two witnesses are led into by the spirit of God. They will therefore have the protection of Scripture on every quarter, the true word of God being their eyes.

So, there is a sound reason for you to be careful with your tongue, not knowing what you are fighting against.

With sorrow in heart
PehJeshua

Dear Jeff Joseph,

I dont abide by philosophy but by the word of God. If you really mean that you have found scriptures twisted in my writings you are welcome and also spiritually obligated to show me in what things I err. But claims must be substantiated, not just flung at random. All the scriptures that I have referred to in my writings are all very much down to the point at issue. Yes, I use scriptures from the OT since our Lord says this in Isa 64:10:

"I make known the end from the beginning,
from ancient times, what is still to come.
I say: My purpose will stand,
and I will do all that I please."

In the beginning our Lord thus foretells the last things, what have not yet come true, but His word will not fail. That is why I use the OT as well as the the NT. These two parts of the Bible are like wheels that both are within the other one, as can be seen in Ezek 1:16:

"The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work was AS IT WERE A WHEEL IN THE MIDDLE OF A WHEEL."

Yes, in this way the Old and New Testaments are interlocked with each other and make a perfect picture of the will of God. So, therefore, when you see 10.000 paragraphs on my side, it is because you don't yet see the unbroken whole of what I expound from Scripture. I don't just babble on but know acutely what I say and where these things belong. Earlier in my life, when God had not yet opened my eyes, I was like you, blindly believing in things non-scriptural. So, what shall we say as to 1 Cor 2:10-16?

"But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ."


May God help you see in the dark!

With sorrow in heart
PehJeshua

Dear researcher,

So, in what things do you find me to be similar to those many self-proclaimed "messengers"? What did I proclaim that is not true, have you got from any of those many impostors any examples that are applicable to me and what I say? If so, please tell me!

With sorrow in heart,

PehJeshua

Hi researcher,

What about your backup from Scripture? Is it to be wanted?

With sorrow in heart,
PehJeshua

This is the pseudo intellect that you display in all of your posts.

It is the two witnesses who preach the Gospel, Displaying the almighty Power of God as a witness to all nations. Then the end will come.


the Gospel of "repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand" Is in the Power of the Holy Spirit. The Power that brings fire down on the heads of the captain and fifty. The Power that brings water out of the face of the rock. The Power that feeds five thousand with two loaves. The Power that turns oceans to blood. The Power that shuts up the heavens for the three and a half years of their ministry.

Revelation 11
10 For these two Prophets tormented those who dwell on the earth.

1 Corinthians 2
4 And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power,
5 that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.







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Godsloft, if you want to speak these things on your own forum, go ahead, but not here. I think this kind of talk can be dangerous. As for peh, he is no longer a member and I would ask that if he comes in under another name that I would be notified. We don't want people using this forum to promote themselves as Christ or one of the Two Witnesses. Thank You!

Please see this link for more of what I think about this as administrator of this forum. http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...st&p=142321

I'm not sure who Charlie and Dean are, but I know that there was another Two Witnesses topic in Bible Prophecy that had a guy named "Elijah" (username) who posted these same things about hacking off hair and wearing sackcloth and a rope and all the other things. That person once signed his name as

Charles Martin
a son of man

Christian Forum.net, Bible Prophecy, The Two Witnesses

I found the same thing on a website as Godsloft posted here, and "Elijah" said that he wrote it and didn't know that anybody had posted it on the web. Then he disappeard--stopped posting--in January, 2006. Charlie joined in January 06 and began posting the same things, so I wonder if he's "Elijah" and just too shy to admit it. This is the first I've heard of anybody named Dean (which we all know is NOT you, Shekel! You've spoken up on this issue and made it clear where you stand, and you wouldn't take that kind of approach, anyway.) Like people have said, we just sincerely want to know.

Somebody asked Peh how he got the calling that he posts about, and I wonder the same thing about any two witnesses, whether real or not. What happens to people to give them a calling like that? Is there something in common with ALL the people out there who sincerely believe they are one of the Two? If you put their stories side by side, would something stand out? Are there 20 or 30 or more people who have had the same experience? I also wonder, what is the point of there being so many who believe they are the Two? Is it to cause confusion when the actual witnesses show up? (Assuming that there are just two.) And how does somebody do some of the things that Godsloft's friend has been mentioned as doing in this topic? Does that automatically make somebody the real thing?

I'd really love to start a poll to find out how many people know one of the two or know of somebody who is one of the two. It just surprises me to see all this. It's a topic I'm sincerely interested in because it's one of the last things that will happen before the Second Coming, so it's going to be very, very important when it happens. I guess there's really no way to study it without running across any of the two somewhere along the way, and I don't know why they would be out and about before their actual days start. Then you'd have to add days to their public ministry since they were out "publicly" in some form or fashion before the official start of their ministry.

Sorry to make this so long--I just really wonder. It's amazing that there can be so much confusion over things like this. But I guess it's one of those things that we'll be sure about after it's happened.

If they are literal people, then they both have this in common, if they are like Moses and Elijah, who was like John the Baptist, then both were in the desert until the time of their revealing. So anyone who says they are it or knows who it is are suspect. We will know when they leave the desert and become public.

As for this person who it is said of them that they did these great feats, we should not believe unless we see with our own eyes.

By the way, just today I had a brand new member claiming he was one of the Two Witnesses. I did not pass his posts.

I also know two people personally who thought that they were it some years ago --- one is dead now!

It is dangerous because it is the sort of stuff that cults are made up of.

Hi Shy1

You said this....

I am also very interested in the study of the Two Witnesses, I was just shocked when they showed up.(LOL)
But seriously, I do believe that when we get to this time and season where they do show up it should be a gret sign unto mankind and it would be something to give the saints reassured Peace.

I really enjoy some of the very deep discussions here and have read posting for months and months...I just started to write the day before yesterday because I read enough of the nonsense and the truth is I felt like it was wrong to just sit on my thumbs and not call for an end of these acclaimations. New Christians could have been greatly confused.

Thanks Shekel for addressing the forums.

Blessings
EveryEyeWillSee

Hi Shy1. I believe the bible says - For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. Mat 24:24

Apparently we will see a lot more of these types, and, not just on the internet. Some will actually do "great" false miracles. Imagine seeing that! Confronting the falsies won't be as easy as it is on a forum. But, it also says "by their fruits you will know them." Plus we have those with the gift of the discernment of spirits. I'm sure that gift will come into play quite a bit in the near future. I think we can see in what some of these people say on this forum that something is just not quite right in the spirit of what they write.

Good post, thanks!
J

Wow! You actually knew two people who thought they were it? I guess this is a lot more common than I thought it was when I started reading these posts! And I'm also surprised to hear that a new member believed he was one. I guess I really shouldn't be surprised. I just would really love to hear the stories of why they believe they have that calling, and then compare those stories to see what the common element is--if they all believe because of a similar experience. They can't all be right, and if they are all having the same experience, then people should know to watch out for that kind of thing. I don't know if that even makes any sense! LOL!


Amen to that! And keep posting--I've enjoyed reading your posts.

You're right. I just don't want to believe bad motives of any of these people, that they are intentionally trying to deceive people. Something happened to them to make them believe they are called, like these guys who have their own websites claiming to be one of the two. And you are right--discernment will be very important. The real ones will come along, and I believe it will be obvious when they do. I think their enemies will be in trouble, or the enemies of Christ, actually, but people who are asking things in a spirit of just wanting to know will see a lot of compassion from them. You do a really good job of putting into words what I'm trying to think clearly about!

Let me add, I don't believe it will be hard to confront them anywhere as long as you know the Truth and can speak. But don't speak unless you know that the L-rd has led you to speak up. I have been put in hard places and learned it wasn't always wise to speak out against wolves who wear sheeps clothing.

There are falses prophets all around us and even many antichrists.
Are they right in what they say??

They cannot be avoided these days and will become more prevelant than years before. Is there a way we can direct them into the right path? I think so....just share the "Truth", G-d's word in Love. Be stable and don't fall for everything you hear. L-rd I pray, Help us all. Amen.

Blessings
EveryEyeWillSee

It isn't likely you will find the Two Witnesses identify themselves by name. It isn't likely they will have websites, or email addresses, or go on talk shows, or be interviewed, even have their own homes or personal belongings, other than what is necessary to sustain them. They MOST CERTAINLY won't be part of ANY CHURCH.

The Two Witnesses wear sackcloth. No three-piece suitor them.

They aren't your standard run-of-the-mill prophet. They are the MOUTHPIECE of the Lord, and they carry the SWORD OF JUDGMENT!

Their calling and walk with the Lord is NOT like yours or mine. They have spent many years with the Lord, closed in and seperate with HIm, being 'sifted' refined' and edified. They had to learn to fully conform their own will to the will of God for them. They do nothing without the direct leading of the Lord.

Remember Moses! He, in disobedience to the Lord, struck a rock with his staff to release water, and the Lord punished him by denying him access to the land of Canaan. This CANNOT HAPPENED with these Two Last Day Witnesses. They are the FINAL AUTHORITY as the Lord's mouthpiece. They will preach the PURITY OF GOD'S WORD and they will carry the SWORD OF JUDGMENT. They will be instruments to God's wrath.

There can be NO ERROR found in them. And they most certainly won't introduce themselves.

John (the Baptist) was the eartly testimony to Jesus Christ as the son of God. Just as John bore independent witness to Jesus Christ, there will be others will will bear witness to the ministry of the Two Witnesses.

They will be recognized by the Body by the SWORD THEY WIELD. Without the POWER no one would pay any attention to them. And if they weren't given supernatural powers of personal protection, they would be 'muted' or killed the instant they preached on the streets and in the public squares.

Why Two Witnesses?

There are two elements of God's people, found in the Jew, God's chosen people, and also in the Christian.
The Bible is centralized around Israel, but it must be understood that Israel and America, her Christian counterpart, are linked at the hip.

Both elements of God's people need to be 'restored' to holiness. Elijah's ministry (Malachi 4:5) is sent to restore the 'six' spiritual churches who need to overcome, to be made holy, and a worthy Bride of Christ, without spot or blemish.

Moses goes to Israel to 'restore' their Jewish counterpart, by getting them to accept Jesus Christ as their Messiah. This happens according to Ezekiel 37:18-28.

To each Christian element of God's people there is a Jewish counterpart, including those who become part of the HARLOT and those in the Jewish element who refuse to accept Jesus Christ as their Messiah.

The bulk of Elijah's 1260 day ministry will occur in America, to 'restore' God's people before judgment. When he has concluded his ministry in America he will meet up with Moses in Jerusalem.

Both will call down God's fire on the invading Magog army in the middle of the 'seven', and soon thereafter, both will be overcome by the Antichrist, who at this time is indwelled by Satan.

This means you can find them come out in their public ministry upon the covenant peace soon to happen in Israel. Before then, you will not likely find them in public, most certainly not identified as Elijah or Moses. They are 'hidden'.

Many 'claim' to be Elijah, but there is only ONE Elijah. And they most certainly don't WIELD THE POWER nor do they preach the purity of the WORD OF GOD.

It is interesting to note how little is mentioned of them (Revelation 11) but how much they will impact the first half of the 'seven'. It takes SPECIAL SPIRITUAL INSIGHT to understand the details of their ministry, why, where, and when.

Trust me when I say they are two MEN, literal men. And trust me when I say that you won't want to be around them either. They are given discernment to expose your sins and lay them bare. You will NOT BE ABLE TO HIDE YOUR INNER SINS FROM THEM. They have the POWER!

Anyone want further details? Just contact me.

ELIJAH

Matthew 17:11-12, “To be sure, Elijah comes and will restore all things. But I tell you, Elijah has already come, and they did not recognize him, but have done to him everything they wished.”

Malachi 4:5, See, I will send the prophet Elijah before the great and dreadful day of the Lord comes. He will turn the hearts of the children to their fathers; or else I will come and strike the land with a curse.”

And, “As the hour draws near, so shall I send my power upon you, and you shall go forth proclaiming my Word, and then shall you go forth proclaiming my judgment, and then shall you go forth and take my sword…”

“Look up and rest in the comfort that you have not chosen me, but I have chosen you from amongst all the face of this earth, to go forth in my name, as a Prophet of God from on High, to proclaim the Restoration, to proclaim that God will be coming to judge the wicked, and that He will smite the earth, and that He will destroy this nation.”

“As you go forth you will be my representative, you will be my prophet on the earth, you will point and you will say, ‘Thus saith the Lord..’ because it will be my Word, it will be my action, it will be my power.”

“It is written in my Word that Elijah surely must come first to restore all things, as I have stated in my Word so shall you go forth and restore all things.”

“So that is why I must send you out, my prophet, to declare that the Living God is not pleased with them, that He is not pleased with their sins, that He is not pleased with their actions, and He is not pleased with their idolatry.”

“That’s why I must send my prophet, that is why I am sending you out---to proclaim my judgments in the name of God, in the name of the Living God, in my name, the name of Jesus Christ.”

“This is why I must send you out---to proclaim devastating judgments so they will know that these judgments are from God!”

“That’s why I must send Elijah! That’s why I must send my judgments! That’s why my judgments will come out of your mouth! That’s why my judgments will be fulfilled! When you prophesy them, for then they will know that the Living God lives, and He has power over the elements and the water and the wind.”

“I tell you, build yourself up strong! For it is a mighty task! And you cannot wave and you cannot sway but you have to stand strong, knowing that I have sent you out there, for this ministry to rebuke and reprove the world of their sin and to bring forth my judgment.”

“Every word that comes out of your mouth will touch their hearts, and this will be the final way in which I will reach out to them, for these are the latter days and the end times are yet to come.”

“I will give you power over the waters; I will give you power over the fire; I will give you power over the weather; I will give you power over the wind; and you shall prophesy of this judgment over this nation.”

“The power that I shall give you will be so utterly destructible that there will be none that can come against you! You will be totally invincible! And the judgements which you will proclaim will cause much burden, much grief, much torment in the hearts of others that are looking on.”

INDICTMENT AGAINST GOD’S PEOPLE

“My people are estranged, they have left me; I ask you to share my burden, for I am grieved and I am heavy hearted, and the time is come, the time is come for me to bring forth my judgment for they have not turned their heads towards me.”

“Religion today is like leprosy; the people are indwelling in this false religion. It is like a leprosy that has grown on them and is ready to kill them and break them; and they are dying, they are dying and they do not know it. They are in the pit and they do not know it, they are blind and they do not know it. Religion is killing them, it is suffocating them and it has blinded them to the truth—the truth of My Word and of my vision for them.”

“The institutions of righteousness are corrupt, full of extortion, full of filth, full of strife.”

“For my axe is laid bare to every tree that bears not fruit; it shall be hewn down and cast into the fire; not one of those will be left for they bear not fruit, for they shine forth not my light, they are but a hindrance. They shall be hewn and cast down to make way for those who bear fruit and who shine forth my light; who bear fruit and water and feed the rest—those they shall make a way for. The rest shall be cut down for they are wicked and they thrive on their own juice that that juice will kill them.”

“From the most grievous sinner to the most righteous of God’s children, I have all given them a chance, I have all at one point called them; I have called them and asked them to come out and to serve me.”

“I have called them; I have searched each one’s heart and I have called them, from the most grievous, from the most terrible sinner, to the most righteous.”

“But I tell you! I have gone to each one of them. I have searched each one of their hearts and they have known that I have called them and I have tried to woo them to me and talk to them. But yet they turn not to me, yet they turn not to me.”

“I have given them a chance; I died on the cross for all sinners, I died on the cross for all without respect of persons, that all may be saved, that not one should be perished except the one that betrayed me.”

“They reject all that I have for them, so they shall see my judgment! For now they shall see what I have in store for them! For they chose the world, they chose the world!”

“I came for them all, without respect of persons I died on the cross; I bled for them! I bled and I died and I was crucified for them; and they know this! And they know this in their heart that I came to save them from the evil one, but yet they turn away, because they look at this world and they are choked by the cares of this world.”

“Woe be unto them! For I came to them just as I came unto you. I pleaded and I wooed them; I asked them to turn their hearts, I asked them to turn their face, that I would take care of their problems, that I would take care of their anguish and their grief and their troubles.”

RESTORATION

“The children of God shall be united under one Spirit, the Spirit of truth, the Holy Spirit. The Spirit that reveals all truth from the throne of God, the Spirit that reveals the beginning from the end, the end from the beginning; this is my Spirit, the Holy Spirit, it will unite all the true children of God.”

“There will be many who are hungry for the Word of God. There will be many who are hungry for the truth. There will be many who will come to the truth, and there will be many who will come to hear you preach the Word of God in all its purity; they are hungry for the truth; they are hungry for their God; and they will come to the light.”

“They must become warriors for Christ; they must proclaim the name of God; the light must shine forth, and the Word of God must be proclaimed.”

“The truth must go forth, the light must shine; the Word of God must be proclaimed; the evil spirits must be smashed; the saints must come out of their caves.”

“I say, go forth! Go forth and be a light! Show them! Show them that they can be healed, if they but come to my throne, if they but shed this falseness, the lies, the hypocrisy. Just come to my throne and I shall heal them and they shall be with me and we shall live in my Father’s mansion as one, as one family.”

“Only those that turn to me, and realize that I am supreme, and that only in me is there true reality, and that this world is not reality, that this world is just a stage; only those who turn to me and see me as their only hope, as their only salvation, as their true reality, them I shall pluck from this earth and they shall be with me in paradise.”

“I came that all may know me; I came that all may have the knowledge that you have; I came for all that I should reveal wisdom to all.”

You will be my light. You will be my beacon. You will be the light in the world in these latter days. And you will show them that the Holy God is pure without blemish or spot, and that He wants them to be pure without blemish or spot; that they should come to me as a pure bride, a bride that I am proud to show to my Father, that He will accept and say, “Yes, they are right, bring them into my mansion.”

“The bride will know, the bride will see that you are pure and holy; I ask that you be holy as I am holy, perfect yourselves, cleanse yourselves, make your paths straight, make sure that you are holy.”

“This is one of your missions, to bring about the Restoration; as they come to you they will see the truth and they shall perfect themselves through your word and your admonitions and your doctrine, they shall perfect themselves with spot or without blemish.”

“And, when they hear your voice, they will know that this is the voice of the Lord, this is the voice of their Shepherd. And my sheep will come, my sheep will come out of their hiding, my sheep will come out of their sins, my sheep will come out of their works, my sheep will come out of their vanity and frivolity and their programs!”

SAN FRANCISCO

“My heart is heavy, as I see all that goes on in this city my heart is heavy for all the sins and all the abominations and all the wickedness and evil that I see—I cannot bear, I cannot bear! I see sins that you don’t even know about, that you cannot even imagine, and my heart is weary; I ask you to look at this city the way I look at it.

This city is evil and wicked and my judgment is so right for this city; every citizen, every citizen hates God, they walk in their own ways, they walk in their own lust, they walk in their own depravity, they are wretched and they are naked and they are hungry and they don’t even know it. Their face they turn towards themselves, they try to glorify themselves, they try to adorn themselves, they try to cover up, but I see their hearts, their heart is far from me, and my heart is heavy, I am very sad and I am very heavy hearted.

This city hates God and it hates me; the mention of my name and they turn their head and they harden their heart and their back stiffens and they do not want to speak of me; my name itself is like a bad word in this city; this city hates God and this city hates me.

The sins of this city cry out to me to avenge this city with my wrath; this city is evil! The sins of this city are worse than Sodom and Gomorrah! The wickedness that prevails! The wretchedness! The emptiness!

This is why I have brought you to this city as a light—that you will show this city that the Living God sees their sins and He is ready to avenge them!

I cannot speak of their sins, I cannot speak of their wickedness and evil; I am so heavy! I am so heavy hearted! But this city grows in wickedness and evil every day and I am ready to lay my hand bare! I am ready to pierce my sword through their hearts! So they know that I am alive and that they are hurting me, and they are hurting who gave them the very breath which they breath is from me, and they turn their heads away from me, they turn their hearts away from me!
I am grieved! I am very sad! But my justice I will mete out with my wrath and my judgment! I ask you to see this city! I ask you to see their eyes! I ask you to see their hearts the way that I see them! I am grieved! You must see this city the way I see it. So that when you bring forth my judgment you will know it comes with all justice! I ask you to see this city the way I see it!

Raise your arm and take my sword; you will be my instrument to bring forth my vengeance, my wrath.

This is the day, this is my day of fury, for I am very angry with the wicked and my wrath shall come upon them.

When the sun shines brightest, that is your time, when the sun shines brightest and is right over head, you shall enter the crowd and you shall stand in their midst, you shall proclaim my name, you shall uplift my standard and you shall call my fire, you shall bring down my sword and they shall burn!

My fire shall come down and burn the wicked, they shall be as stubble; they shall burn as tares but the righteous shall stand; you shall tread the wicked and they shall not hurt you.

The wicked shall be stamped like pulp on the ground and my wrath shall be manifest; the day is at hand and you shall manifest my wrath! The fire of the Lord shall burn bright!

As the Lord moves in with judgment and wrath, the demons shall move out with anger and fury, and there shall be fire and there shall be smoke and there shall be stench so strong that the righteous will have to turn their head because the stench will be so bad; the judgment of the Lord will fall strong upon this city.

This city is San Francisco, this “pretty”, this so-called “glorious” city of San Francisco shall be abased, shall be abased, shall become like cinders, they shall burn, this city shall burn, this city shall be abased, because my Word will cut their lies, their hypocrisy, their sin, and their evil, shall cut them asunder, and this city will be abased.

I have looked upon this city and it is wicked, it is wicked; and as you go forth in the gap, and as you confront the enemy, you will tell them, you will tell them of the coming wrath and doom that this city will experience, you shall tell them that not one stone will be left unturned.

And they will look at you and they will think that you are mad; but you will tell them that the Living God has said that this city will be destroyed, not one stone will be left unturned, because I have visited this city and I have seen no good.”

AMERICA

“As I have given you visions and messages of my judgment and wrath, so will you go forth. And so will you proclaim in graphic detail of my judgments, and of my fire, and of death all over this land; and of waters that will rise, and of the stars that will darken, and of the wind that will rush.”

“You shall prophesy of this, and I will give you power over the waters, I will give you power over the fire, I will give you power over the weather, I will give you power over the wind, and you shall prophesy of this judgment over this nation.”

“I have forsaken them now, my wrath shall come and you shall prophesy in graphic detail of their judgment, of their death, of their sure doom, and of the dead that will be from one end of this nation to the other.”

“This whole nation shall see my fire, this whole nation shall be in confusion, this whole nation will be under strong delusion, they will not know, I shall shake their very roots, I shall shake their very roots and they will not know what has happened.”

“For the fire will sweep through this nation. And there will be strong confusion and strong delusion. And there will be panic everywhere, there will be panic everywhere, people running to and fro, trying to hide with no place to hide; they will jump into the sea for they will not know where else to go; and they will drown and they will kill themselves.”

“My fire will sweep through this nation. And there shall be turmoil; and there shall be chaos; there will be no place to hide, no place to hide. For I will seek them out of their dark corners and I shall pull them and I shall kill them; for those that reject me, there shall be no place to hide, no place to hide.”

“They will look at you as a fool. They will look at you as a fool masquerading in a fool’s paradise. For you speak of death; for you speak of judgment; for you speak of darkness; for you speak of fire; for you speak of my wrath. And they, all they see is sunshine, green trees, fair weather, and they frolic in their folly, and they have fun, and they enjoy, and they laugh, and they drink, and they become drunken, and they sleep.”

“For all of a sudden my fire will come! For all of a sudden my judgment will come! For all of a sudden when they are asleep and when they are drinking and when they are frolicking in their folly, my judgment will come! And they will know that a prophet has been among them, for he has spoken of it, of my judgment, and my wrath.”

JESUS CHRIST

“I am the Son of the Living God, and no man comes to the Father but through me, and all those who reject me, Jesus Christ, they are condemned! There is no way out for them! Their sin is that they reject me, they reject me—the Son of God—they deny me, and those who deny me I shall deny to the Father.
They deny my crucifixion. They deny that I died for their sins and that they can live with me in paradise as long as they come to me and believe in me. They deny that I can give them everlasting life; they deny me—this is their sin—that they deny the Living God, the Son of the Living God, and that they are wicked, they choose evil, and they choose wickedness.
This is their sin—they deny the Living God. They deny the Son of the Living God. They deny Jesus Christ, for I am all truth, I am all righteousness, and without me there is no way, they shall perish, this is the truth, that if they come to me, the Son of the Living God, I shall give them everlasting life.
It is me that shall save them, I am the Savior of the world, I am the Redeemer, I am Everlasting Life, I am green pastures, I am everlasting, and I shall give them everlasting waters so that they will never thirst and they shall never hunger.
For my Father so loved the world that He sent me on earth to walk the earth and to set sinners free, to set the down trodden free, to give sight to the blind, to heal the wounded, to heal the sick, to set free the captive.
I came to save sinners; I came to save sinners from the fires of everlasting hell; I came to set them free; I came to give them everlasting life; that they might have life abundantly, that they may live with me and my Father in my Father’s mansion. I came for all. And for those who accept me and for those who serve me, they shall be given abundantly; they shall be treated as sons of God and kings of heaven!
But for those who reject me, for those who reject the Son who the Father has sent, there is only fire left. For I came, for I came to save them out of the pit, for I came to save them, for I came for them that they may live with me.
But if they reject me, if they reject me, woe! For I only can send them to hell. For that is all that is left for them, for that is all that my Father has left for them. He has done all that He can. He has sent them His only Son, to serve, to serve them, to save them, to bring them to the truth, to bring them to the life, but they would rather choose darkness.
I am the light, I am the way, I am the truth! No man comes to the Father but through me. I am the Son of God and only through me can they see the Father; I am the Son of god, I lay down my life for them, and if they reject me there is no other way; I am the way, I am the truth, I am the light; my Father sent me to save the world, and those who receive me I will receive, I will accept, I will tell of them to my Father, and they shall be in heaven with me and they shall be in paradise, their name shall be written in the Book of Life and they shall have everlasting life.
But those who reject me there is no way but hell, there is no other way, for I am the way, I am the truth, I am the light; I was sent to save sinners, I was sent to save them.”
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I am not understanding why all of a sudden you are having a problem with what the people of my church are saying here on your board. What things do you not want jim and charlies and denise to discuss here?

Ed1944,
Are you talking about literal Old Testament Moses and Elijah, or about two men from today who will have callings like Moses and Elijah? I enjoyed your posts--there's a lot to go back and read.

Ed1944



The Posting was WONDERFUL AND VERY DESCRIPTIVE of the Two Witnesses.
Notice: Ed1944 didn't claim to be one of the Two? He just let's us in on what the "real deal" will be like and what to expect. Gotta appreciate that....

Thanks for posting Ed!

Blessings In Y'Shua
EveryEyeWillSee

Hi Ed. I believe I am on one of your mailing lists already.
Interesting reading.

Why would the two witnesses go out to the Churches?

They are to preach the message of faith to the 144,000 so they can be sealed ...they are to bring down the Dome of the Rock and mosque of Omar so the third temple can be built then defiled, they are to identify the anti christ and wage war against him and the false prophet, they are to teach weapons of warfare to their 2 jewish understudies so they can lead the 1/3 of Israel who comes to faith, (after their resurrection) out to Bozrah, then for their reward, they are to be the first 2 people in history to ever be directly killed by satan so the judgement can be set at the Great White Throne and to seal the evil one's fate forever....

This last reason is really the main reason they are given such great power...because since Jesus is now on His Throne, He can make his prophets so powerful that only satan himself for a brief moment can overcome them....otherwise he'd have someone else do it!


(Note: you will note satan did not kill Jesus Christ...he just incited it.)


Would not these signs on TV be enough for the Church? Their mission is not to the Church. Indeed their mission is to signal the end of the Church age and the renewel of God's attention to His choosen people.

Sure, they will probably make a few headlines after they walk in and take over the temple mount!!! Some in the Church might pay heed and perhaps many will be saved! But surely, the islamic world will be up in arms...The wars will rage and the enemies will gather.

But just like Jericho fell, so will any ungodly edifice near or around Mt Moriah. Surely if they call enough fire down from heaven, God can cleanse the threshing field of 1000's of years of trampling and sin so the Third Temple can be built, the tents of David restored and the waters of Meribah/Moriah can flow....

Surely all the new signs will be like the old signs...7 days around the temple mount and then with a shout, it all falls down........1 strike on the rock and the water will flow...how in the world do you think they will convince the 144,000 jews that Jesus is God, if the signs are new and different.....? Preaching in a Church is for Preachers. Prophet's live in tents sometimes with 1 assistant. When Elijah did his ministry, he was by a brook, on a mountain, and on occasion visited Jezebel and Ahab...otherwise, you never hear of him in a Synagouge...because the building was already laid waste in God's mind...why go to a wasting building in times such as this?

If there is one thing we should know from history and from foreshadowing,,,,,there is nothing new under the SON...............

If they won't be part of any Church then they can't be from Christ. Everyone who comes after Christ is built on the same foundation of the Apostles and Prophets Christ Himself being the Chief Cornerstone. Each bodily temple joined together becomes a mighty temple in the Lord. It is the temple of the body the third and final temple that Christ built.

Ephesians 2
20 having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief corner stone,
21 in whom the whole building, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord,

Some people are inferring that they are the two witnesses of the book of Revelation. This is impossible for us to judge without knowing them personally. Besides this, there are those that come promoting themselves regularily with this message, and it confuses people.

I do understand. It takes seeing and beholding the Grace that God has given anyone before ones faith can be in the power of God, through them, and not in the craftiness and wisdom of men.

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These two witnesses are ENDTIME witnesses, given the authority to restore God's people to holiness, and given the POWER, the SWORD OF JUDGMENT!

There are those who will argue that they are Elijah and Enoch, but I will remind people that only Elijah and Moses were given POWER in Old Testament days.

People miss the parallels and dualities of the Old and New Testaments to future events. There are so many scattered throughout the Bible I can't even count them all or even recognize them all.

Few have picked up on the Jezebel and Ahab and Elijah of I Kings being a foretaste and parallel to Hillary (Jezebel) becoming President, with Bill (Ahab) as her co-president during the ministry of Elijah in America.

By now people should know that America is the Mystery Babylon of the Bible and by now, with all of the commentary and prophetic messages about Hillary being President, this is the duality of also Elijah coming to America to 'restore' God's people to holiness.

By now people should know that there will be a FIRST FRUITS taking (already RIPENED for the harvest), but those who remain must be further RIPENED as the main harvest. These are described in Revelation 2 and 3, as needing to 'overcome'.

I'm saddened that 'many' must go through the fire and adversity of tribulation in order to be refined, made holy, and worthy to be the Bride of Christ, holy and pure, without spot or blemish.

People listen to men rather than the Spirit which speaks to them. ALL MEN ARE LIARS MEVER TO BE TRUSTED! Such is the curse of Adam. Yet, people will still listen to men!

Lost on almost all of the Christian community is the real work of the Lord upon His death and subsequent resurrection in giving us the gift of the Holy Spirit, also called the HELPER and the SPIRIT OF TRUTH.

No one will enter the kingdom of heaven without this baptism of the Spirit, in MY view.

Consider Acts. How was it the Apostles and godly men spread the Gospel? They had to 'wait' for the baptism of the Spirit in Pentecost before they could go out. Having received this gift of the Spirit, what did they do? Peter even raised woman from the dead.

The Spirit makes us Christ-like having the same gifts our Lord employed in His public ministry, those gifts received being identified in I Corinthians 12.

Without this gift, how can we discern what is TRUE and what is false? Why is it that there are so many views by those who read and interpret Scriptures to create so many doctrines, false teachings, and another Jesus?

Who is the FINAL ARBITRATOR to TRUTH, but the Holy Spirit?

And people wonder why they need to be further 'refined' to holiness!

The truth be told, we, God's people, have spiritually dumbed ourselves down so low that we aren't worthy to be a Bride.

God's people have ignored the standard of holiness the Lord had set for us and also have ignored the walk with the Lord we are required to take.

Matthew 11:11, "Among those born of women there is risen anyone greater than John the Baptist, yet he who is LEAST in the kingdom of heaven is greater thean he (John).

Please think on this a moment. John is LESS then the LEAST in the kingdom of heaven?

If I recall, John was the human testimony to Jesus as the Son of God. If I recall, John baptized people by water. If I recall, John was beheaded for his testimony.

And, in regards the walk we are ALL required to make?

Matthew 10:37-39 spells it out. We are called to carry our cross for Jesus, putting HIM ABOVE ALL THINGS, including our love of family and our own personal idols. Is this not true?

Also, it says in Matthew 10:39, "Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it."

We MUST DIE OF SELF!

Our most valued possession is our very flesh. We have 'survial' instinct above all things. Yet, our Lord freely laid down His life for the WORST OF US.

So, how do we learn to die of self? It has everything to do with our DEMONSTRATION of our faith and trust in the Lord alone, HOLDING HIM FAST TO HIS PROMISES TO US!

Why was Abraham willing to sacrifice his beloved son, Isaac, in obedience to the Lord? Why does Scriptures say of Abraham and all of those with the faith of Abraham that it was counted unto them as righteousness, because of their FAITH? Why were people healed by Jesus? Because of their faith!

Abraham had such faith that he FOREKNEW the Lord would RESTORE Isaac, if Isaac were sacrificed. You notice the Lord didn't allow Abraham to go through with the sacrifice but restrained Him. Why? Because Abraham passed the 'test' of full measure faith and trust in the Lord.

If we choose to go to doctors or take drugs and medicines for out afflictions, rather than trust the Great Physician, how are we demonstrating such faith? Such half measure faith insults and angers the Lord.

However, IF WE DEMONSTRATE the faith of Abraham, KNOWING WITHOUT A DOUBT that we will be healed, doesn't this please the Lord, giving Him much honor, praise and glory?

And if we trust the Lord to heal us and demonstrate such faith in our lives, shouldn't we also trust in the Lord in regards to our VERY LIVES? We learn to die of self, our flesh is no longer of account, because we live in Spirit.

We all have the curse of Adam. Part of that curse is the exercise of our own free will of choice. Neither the Lord nor Satan can interfere with this 'choice' we make. But when we walk with the Lord, we MUST learn to CONFORM OUR WILL TO HIS WILL FOR OUR LIVES.

Our flesh no longer restrains us. We are no longer cowards, afraid to speak up against evil and wrong, but are bold in raising that banner of righrteousness for ALL to see.

No TRUE prophet can give ANY MESSAGE sent by the Lord unless they, too, have learned to die of self.

All prophets were persecuted, vilified, beaten, stoned, tortured, imprisoned, or ruthlessly killed. That was the fate of a true prophet who spoke the TRUTH. And, who persecuted them? God's own people!

What I have just described to you above is who the real Philadelphia Church is. They are those who live by the faith of Abraham and demonstrate such faith. They are those who have put the Lord above ALL THINGS in their lives. They are those who have conformed their will to the will of God, and they are those who will listen to and obey that 'voice' which speaks to them. This is the Philadelphia Church!

So, now you see why the Two Witness minstry must come. To 'restore' God's people to holiness.

Over time, those who walk in the Spirit learn the selfless love of Christ within them. They learn to put others first in their lives above all things including their own flesh. No SIN can be found in TRUE SELFLESS LOVE! You can't find ONE!

Reading and understanding the Scriptural Word is much more than merely piecing together quotes and phrases to support a preconceived notion. There is heart and SPIRIT in those words, a BIGGER picture, so to speak, a PORTRAIT!

I joined this FORUM to give a message and now I'm moving on. Little is gained on these FORUMS as people are full of ego and spiritual pride, more interested in getting their message across than to seek the truth.

If the Spirit within you leads you, you can contact me personally at d09e@sbcglobal.net and we can talk further. And I don't sell the 'Word' of God for $12.95 plus shipping and handling. I speak from the Spirit within me.

God bless,

Ed

I agree with what Ed1944 says about coming out of the Harlot. The church has become dirty and unprepared in many ways. If you read through Revelation, Jesus gives us examples and tells us clearly where our hearts are at and what he has against us. Read on the Seven Churches in Asia and it is eye opening to hear his Words. His words cut like a knife and are convicting. Inside I hear the Spirit calling me to come out from among them. G-d wants us to be Holy, BE SEPARATE.....to evaluate our hearts and to repent.

Blessings,
EveryEyeWillSee

I missed this. Do you know all these people? I didn't know they even knew each other. I know we have a charlie, but who are jim and denise? And what church do they all belong to? Just wondering. (Yes, I guess I say that phrase a lot lately!)

Ed,
In case you come back by again . . . I asked the question because you named Moses and Elijah, and some people believe these two OT prophets are literally coming again. And I agree with you about the fact that OT and NT events relate to future events--things repeat in history. I quoted your comment about Bill and Hillary and Elijah because I found it interesting. I know about Bill and Hillary, but is there somebody out there active now who corresponds to Elijah? Or does this go with predictions by other people that their ministry is soon to start (July for one person)? I didn't quote the rest of your post, but I see that we need to go back to living by faith, REALLY living by faith, the way we would live if the Lord himself were here with us. There is a great need for personal faith and righteousness among the people here in America. I believe that the two witnesses will, in part, help people increase their faith because of the things they are teaching. Many won't listen, of course, and will go on their merry (wicked) way.

I was curious.....I noticed that Godsloft put up this link http://www.geocities.com/starrgerl/inkhorn.htm

And I am wondering if this 'son of man' is "charlie"....? Are you the same?

I noticed that Godsloft posted in the forum in this post, a bunch of stuff from this particular link and it starts out :

Charles, son of man, called to be a servant of CHRIST, through the MERCY and GRACE of GOD our FATHER. To; Those everywhere who call, and who will call, on the name of the LORD, in HIS SPIRIT and HIS TRUTH.

This is out of the "final warning", "the little book from the writer's ink horn".....?

It seems to start out with a bit of an explanation of why it is going to be rejected by many.....Hmmm.

Charlie, Son of Man, Godsloft.....are you all one person or are you all different people?

Curious.....

EveryEyeWillSee

I added the bold in the quote above. I missed this the first time through this message.

This makes perfect sense to me. They really are not supposed to appear until that time. And the comment about Hillary and Bill would apply to that time as well, if the peace treaty happens when Bush wants it to happen, before he leaves office. Then if Hillary wins (Billary), then that's when one would expect to see the witnesses--after that treaty has been signed. And I'm not trying to set dates--just events that need to happen together. Peace treaty, two witnesses. If it so happens that the treaty happens when Bush wants, then the next president is in place at the start of that time. And that may be Billary--we will see. I keep thinking what an exciting time this is to live.


I'm sure somebody could tell that pretty quickly on the technical side of the forum.

I tend to think this is how it is going to all play out. Makes sense.

Sends the mod's the post link. It is easy to see with the IP address.
Kim

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Shy1, if anyone is looking for the Two Witnesses, it isn't like they connect with anyone, but are 'seperate'. They gain their power at the start of the Tribulation. I'm sure they aren't sitting on their hands but have been active their entire walk. They just haven't announced themselves.

Look for Elijah in San Francisco. IF people think they will come out in July 2008, which means the covenant agreement is in place, which is the trigger for their ministries, then you will NOT find him in SF until 2009.

Elijah comes to San Francisco, on the Gay Freedom Day parade, held each year in San Francisco, on the LAST SUNDAY of June. He will enter the crowd that gathers at Civic Center Square, go up on the stage, set across the street from City Hall, and will call down God's fire upon all the Sodomites gathered there.

There are many reasons this will happen and NO ONE knows about this but Elijah himself and the one who bears witness to him.

First, it must be understood, both the Lord's wrath and His mercy.

The Sodomites are beyond redemption, they've fallen so low, there is nothing left for them but to be destroyed. They CANNOT BE REDEEMED.

This is why the Lord had no choice but to condemn Sodom and Gomorrah. Note that the Lord will NEVER judge the righteous with the wicked. What did He do for Lot? He removed him from the judgment, a foretastes of God's people, those who are called by His name, won't suffer judgment along with the wicked.

When Elijah is sent to America the first thing which will occur will be that he will be sent to attack the very core of wickedness in America, in San Francisco first.

Why San Francisco?

The first Church of Satan was established in San Francisco, by Anton LeVey, on Clement street. Open Satanic worship.

San Francisco was the root and core of the great social and cultural rebellion in the '60's, which ultimately spread throughout the US.

San Francisco was the first city to openly accept homosexuals. Harvey Milk, who was killed by Dan White, was a homosexual and a City Council member.

San Francisco was the first city to bring forth the Hippie movement, iin 'free love', and drugs.

San Francisco was the first city to promote heavy rock. Remember the Fillmore theater and all the new rock bands, like Santana and many others? Rooted from San Francisco.

San Francisco was the first city to show Porno in Theaters during this time.

San Francisco was the first city to open nudie clubs and gay bars.

During these days, people were having open sex in public in Golden Gate park during concerts.

San Francisco now has the majority of their city council members as openly gay as well as many of the leaders on the police and fire departments. San Francisco is literally a 'gay town'.

What happens in San Francisco is spread throughout America.

The Lord sends Elijah to San Francisco to answer for the justice called by those souls from Sodom.

This FIRST judgment will kill many thousands, even hundreds of thousands which gather at Civic Center during the Gay Freedom Day parade. Note what it says in Revelation 13:13. The 'false prophet' duplicates this act in the presence of the Antichrist. This act is designed to sow further delusion and to take glory away from God.

The secular world will view this act as an act of terrorism, but God's people, many within the Body will see this act performed by Elijah as a signature mark to his authority and power. Those in San Francisco who remain unharmed will be given a further chance to repent of their sins. But only briefly.

Then San Francisco and the Bay Area, itself, will be totallly destroyed by such a severe earthquake and tsunami that all the man-made idols will be swept away and no one stone will be left unturned in San Francisco. This means both the Golden Gate Bridge and the Bay Bridge will be gone, as well as all the infrastructure in the Bay Area. But this act of judgment will be seen by others in America and they will be given a chance to repent before THEY FACE JUDGMENT.

What I'm about to share with you is a prophetic message GIVEN TO ELIJAH HIMSELF regarding San Francisco. Read it carefully!
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SAN FRANCISCO

“My heart is heavy, as I see all that goes on in this city my heart is heavy for all the sins and all the abominations and all the wickedness and evil that I see—I cannot bear, I cannot bear! I see sins that you don’t even know about, that you cannot even imagine, and my heart is weary; I ask you to look at this city the way I look at it.

This city is evil and wicked and my judgment is so right for this city; every citizen, every citizen hates God, they walk in their own ways, they walk in their own lust, they walk in their own depravity, they are wretched and they are naked and they are hungry and they don’t even know it. Their face they turn towards themselves, they try to glorify themselves, they try to adorn themselves, they try to cover up, but I see their hearts, their heart is far from me, and my heart is heavy, I am very sad and I am very heavy hearted.

This city hates God and it hates me; the mention of my name and they turn their head and they harden their heart and their back stiffens and they do not want to speak of me; my name itself is like a bad word in this city; this city hates God and this city hates me.

The sins of this city cry out to me to avenge this city with my wrath; this city is evil! The sins of this city are worse than Sodom and Gomorrah! The wickedness that prevails! The wretchedness! The emptiness!

This is why I have brought you to this city as a light—that you will show this city that the Living God sees their sins and He is ready to avenge them!

I cannot speak of their sins, I cannot speak of their wickedness and evil; I am so heavy! I am so heavy hearted! But this city grows in wickedness and evil every day and I am ready to lay my hand bare! I am ready to pierce my sword through their hearts! So they know that I am alive and that they are hurting me, and they are hurting who gave them the very breath which they breath is from me, and they turn their heads away from me, they turn their hearts away from me!
I am grieved! I am very sad! But my justice I will mete out with my wrath and my judgment! I ask you to see this city! I ask you to see their eyes! I ask you to see their hearts the way that I see them! I am grieved! You must see this city the way I see it. So that when you bring forth my judgment you will know it comes with all justice! I ask you to see this city the way I see it!

Raise your arm and take my sword; you will be my instrument to bring forth my vengeance, my wrath.

This is the day, this is my day of fury, for I am very angry with the wicked and my wrath shall come upon them.

When the sun shines brightest, that is your time, when the sun shines brightest and is right over head, you shall enter the crowd and you shall stand in their midst, you shall proclaim my name, you shall uplift my standard and you shall call my fire, you shall bring down my sword and they shall burn!

My fire shall come down and burn the wicked, they shall be as stubble; they shall burn as tares but the righteous shall stand; you shall tread the wicked and they shall not hurt you.

The wicked shall be stamped like pulp on the ground and my wrath shall be manifest; the day is at hand and you shall manifest my wrath! The fire of the Lord shall burn bright!

As the Lord moves in with judgment and wrath, the demons shall move out with anger and fury, and there shall be fire and there shall be smoke and there shall be stench so strong that the righteous will have to turn their head because the stench will be so bad; the judgment of the Lord will fall strong upon this city.

This city is San Francisco, this “pretty”, this so-called “glorious” city of San Francisco shall be abased, shall be abased, shall become like cinders, they shall burn, this city shall burn, this city shall be abased, because my Word will cut their lies, their hypocrisy, their sin, and their evil, shall cut them asunder, and this city will be abased.

I have looked upon this city and it is wicked, it is wicked; and as you go forth in the gap, and as you confront the enemy, you will tell them, you will tell them of the coming wrath and doom that this city will experience, you shall tell them that not one stone will be left unturned.

And they will look at you and they will think that you are mad; but you will tell them that the Living God has said that this city will be destroyed, not one stone will be left unturned, because I have visited this city and I have seen no good.”
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Note that this is very specific, when the sun shines brightest. I might add that in San Francisco this is about 1:00 PM due to its latitude. It also corresponds to when the Gay Freedom day parade ends.

It always starts at the base of Market Street, near the Embarcadero and moves up Market Street until they hit the Civic Center Square, which sits adjacent to SF City Hall facing to the west of the square.

They set up a stage for notables to speak, many guests, and sometimes in the past SF's own mayors as well as many city council members. Crowds have been known to be as large as 300,000, but the average has been around 250,000 (estimated).

Elijah goes up on this stage and calls down fire from heaven on them. Only the righteous will survive. I was of the belief once that I would bear witness to this event, but I've been told differently.

Soon after he leaves San Francisco, this will happen:

GOD ALWAYS WARNS HIS PEOPLE

Oh Zion, Zion, do not let your faith wander and be overshadowed by your own desires. For Zion is my body, my Church, my Spirit. It is I, your Lord Jesus, who has reached out and touched every heart and every soul that enters through your doors of fellowship. For I have a special purpose and task awaiting all those who will stand firm and believe this message. It is not my pleasure that you build walls, rules, and doctrine, other than what is written. I know each and every heart that bears my name and longs for my coming. Won’t you open your spiritual ears and spiritual eyes to see and hear of what a mighty thing I am about to do? I want you to trust, fully, in me, for you look at the sky and predict tomorrow's weather and you table the tides, but you won’t look at the warnings of the changing times. There is a cloud of judgment hanging over the United States, and, in fact, hovering over California. In January 1980, the very ground you dwell on shook by my hand. Then in May 1980, to your far north, a mountain exploded and the ground shook all about. Then in June 1980, to the direct east of you, the earth shook the strong high mountains of the Sierras. Within weeks, your southern borders shook. And then, centered off the West Coast, the earth and seas were shaken. Why are you sleeping Zion?
Can you not see my anger? Can you not see all about you the rebellious masses eagerly worshipping all their man-made idols? Sex-sin is rampant; lust for power and self-righteousness are the talk of the times. Above every nation of all history, America has been blessed. But in the last 30 years she has walked away from my covenant. Even the most wicked generation of Israel was not as evil as yours. Sodom and Gomorrah were small compared to the evil ways of this Nation. Awaken to my calling Zion, lest I find you sleeping, not guarding what little faith you have. Catch hold! For in less than two minutes of time the riches and man—made idols will be swept away. Wake up, Zion, for the Glory of God is at hand. Listen carefully, open your hearts, plant your feet firmly where you stand. For I, your Lord, am going to shake my Church and scatter my flocks and those with faith will hear your singing and your worship and know I am with you. Yes, you, Zion will be my guide to my lost sheep; you will be the compassion of my Spirit; you will be the rallying point after disaster strikes. Yes, I will be with you and lead you, and the weak of heart, the broken spirits, the torn flesh, and even the dead will hear your voices lifted up to me, and my healing power, signs and wonders will abound to lead them back to me. There will be no dwelling large enough to hold all the repentant hearts and, in fact, the green fields surrounding your place of worship on Zion’s hill will be amassed with souls bearing my name. Lay hold of your faith, Zion, for as surely as you hear this Prophesy, all of this and much more is about to happen. Do not move from where you are, but rather pray for the strength of my spirit: pray for your roots to be deeply immersed in my word; prepare for the work I have for you. Know this, since my ministry began, I have not come seeking the righteous but rather the lost, those living in darkness; yes, those even now seeking for someone to tell them the truth. But, my church bodies, selfishly, have turned inward to themselves and I must pull them down and scatter the flocks for they are full of thistles and thorns not fit for my high purpose. Lay hold, Zion, lest this happens to you. Cast away your bolted doors; prepare to move into the open fields on Zion’s hill. For even the building you are dwelling in will be gone. I tell you this, even if just two of my beloved remain faithful to this Prophesy, I will unfold all of this around them, for my will be done. The very Glory of God is and always has been the repentant heart, those seeking the truth and salvation, and entering in. My ministry is the whole world and you who have faith are to gather the harvest of my hand. All the promises of my written word are available to you who believe. In that time, when Zion gathers, and the weather is foul, just a mighty shout of praise, in my name, will part the clouds, stop the winds and gales, and my light will burst forth and abundantly refresh you; and when you hunger, the bread of life will feed your souls, and your faith and worship shall glorify the Living God…. My servant, who now gives this Prophesy to you, is anointed by my hand and Spirit to warn all the churches and Christian meeting places round—about. He will be abused, scoffed at, and ridiculed by those claiming to be mine, but my Holy Spirit will precede him, and my signs and wonders will follow him. I always warn my people! Anoint him with oil, Zion, any of you who believe, and swiftly send him on his way. For before he can finish his task, all of what he has told you, this day, will come to pass…Amen…Behold, I come quickly, Amen…Yes, I come quickly, Amen.
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Elijah will also call this judgment as well.

The California judgment I quote above was published in at least two Bay Area newspapers on December 20,1980 as advertisements covering nearly half a page. It was posted by David R. Mason, someone who I have never met. The messages covered nearly half a full page in each posting coming at great expense to the author.

The SF prophesy was given in 1983.

Of note to consider in carefully breaking down the California earthquake predictiion, was that in May 1980 Mt. St. Helens exploded. In June 1980, three 6.5 magnitude earthquakes occurred on the east side of the Sierra Nevada's, near Mono Lake. Later, a large magnitude earthquake occurred at the Southern border of California, near the Mexican border ( I can't recall the magnitude but it was large). Then later, a 7.1 magnitude earthquake occurred off of San Francisco in the Pacific Ocean.

IF you were to take a map of these areas and use a string east to west and north to south, you will discover than the lines intersect in the Bay Area.

You will note also in the prophesy about this earthquake it says in less than two minutes time, all of the man-made idols will be swept away. As a student of earthquake study, I can tell you than significant damade occurs as a result of the duration of the shaking. Something as long as nearly two minutes is unheard of, so the presumption can be made that this is no ordinary earthquake, similar to the one which occurred in 1906.

It should be remembered how California became a state, the Gold Rush, or to say it simply, the lust for greed and wealth. San Francisco became a city, called the Barbary Coast, as it was founded on gambling, corruption, slavery, prostitution, and crime. This is their history.

You will also note the deep influence that both California and San Francisco has had on the United States, how their culture has spread throughout.

It takes spiritual 'eyes' to see and understand this.

As I've been saying, people can sort through this man or that man as being Elijah and they don't understand.
The Two Witnesses carry the SWORD OF JUDGMENT!

I can tell you also that unless you are free of sin, you won't want to be around either of them. They can 'see' your hidden sins, just like the Lord can 'see' our hidden sins. This is a spiritual gift given to very few.

Again, I invite you to email me personally if you wish to discuss this further. I'm on this website only to share a message and move on. This is what I do as my own personal calling.

God bless,

Ed