Myth 1.
QUOTE
Myth: Jesus is not the Bible. The Bible is not the Word that the Bible talks about.It is impossible to lay your hands on the correct Bible, all translations are full of errors. The devil won, God lost the pure Word.God was incapable of keeping and protecting His Word.
Well that is myth. Although the Bible has been translated and many translation contain errors, God through His sovereignty decided to wait until the end f this age to again make available His Word without error.
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made through him; and without him was not anything made that hath been made.
Joh 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
Joh 1:5 And the light shineth in the darkness; and the darkness apprehended it not.
We have not been given another Word. The Bible is the only Word that we have been given. No other word that you and I can hear from God ,will contradict this first Word.All other words that come through prophecy and revelation, or a word of knowledge , will be backed by the Divine Word....Jesus.
The Bible tells us that in the Word : God is.
God chose to reveal Himself through this manner. It is not just a history book, but it contains all we need for salvation and eternal life. It is God breathed.
We read in one of these translations that all Scripture is inspired by God, but that word inspire means :breathed by God" So , these days, we all have the ability to look up the meaning of the words. You do not have to rely on one translation, you can get it for yourself. God has opened the way for us to be able to get to the truth. If we only sit and read our "favorite" Bible, then we also sit with the errors that occur in that particular translation.
2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, ...................theopneustos
theh-op'-nyoo-stos From G2316 and a presumed derivative of G4154; divinely breathed[/b ] to breathe, to blow
Satan's play has been to discredit it, because he knew it contains the seed of God that will bring forth Christ in those who receive this seed. War was declared on the Bible a long time ago and some of us still suffer from the effects of this war. There is not one Christian that has not been touched by this war. Doubt has crossed each mind and some are still bleeding. Some have truly fallen and some are dead.
The only cure for your wounds is within that which you doubt. The only healing is within the pages of that, which is doubted. Strange nut true. We cannot recover if we do not take the Word and restore it to what the Word says about itself:Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, [b]and the Word was God. Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made through him; and without him was not anything made that hath been made.
Joh 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
Joh 1:5 And the light shineth in the darkness; and the darkness apprehended it not.
Darkness apprehended it not. It turned it into "just another book" "Inspired" but not the real "breath of God" Not something that we can stand on, believe in 100%, but something to doubt, to mistrust, something not perfect, not the Rock.
Once we correct this error within ourselves we start to see more:
SO: If Jesus =Bible=God then this makes sense:Mat 10:32 Every one therefore who shall confess me before men, him will I also confess before my Father who is in heaven.
Mat 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father who is in heaven.
"Confess" means : to speak the same as So if you take the truth of what the Bible tells us about itself and substitute WORD for ME, then we see that IF we speak the same as the Bible before men, then Jesus will speak the same as us before the Father. So its becomes more than the traditional view of proclaiming Jesus as the Son of God before men. It now becomes speaking the truth of the Bible, before people. Those people might and sometimes do laugh at you when you do that, because speaking the Word asks for faith. Believing , before seeing and that is not something most people understand.So you might be ridiculed when you "speak the same as" and say : By His stripes I was healed. The people will say: But we still see you are not healed!!! And you then must decide to either: Speak as they speak, or "speak the same as" Jesus (Word) and if you speak the same as the Word, then Jesus declared that before the Father and the Father sends the Holy Spirit to bring your "speak the same as' to pass in this life. That is how to get a miracle.
love C
I have bought the Numeric New Testament and it is wonderful. Its a simple little blue Bible , but it has within its covers all the truth you will need. Its pure.
Just a note: Mr Irwin can be payed via PayPal as well now. It easy and safe. Its well worth getting some of these materials.
love C
Well that is myth. Although the Bible has been translated and many translation contain errors, God through His sovereignty decided to wait until the end f this age to again make available His Word without error.
QUOTE
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made through him; and without him was not anything made that hath been made.
Joh 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
Joh 1:5 And the light shineth in the darkness; and the darkness apprehended it not.
We have not been given another Word. The Bible is the only Word that we have been given. No other word that you and I can hear from God ,will contradict this first Word.All other words that come through prophecy and revelation, or a word of knowledge , will be backed by the Divine Word....Jesus.
The Bible tells us that in the Word : God is.
God chose to reveal Himself through this manner. It is not just a history book, but it contains all we need for salvation and eternal life. It is God breathed.
We read in one of these translations that all Scripture is inspired by God, but that word inspire means :breathed by God" So , these days, we all have the ability to look up the meaning of the words. You do not have to rely on one translation, you can get it for yourself. God has opened the way for us to be able to get to the truth. If we only sit and read our "favorite" Bible, then we also sit with the errors that occur in that particular translation.
2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, ...................theopneustos
theh-op'-nyoo-stos From G2316 and a presumed derivative of G4154; divinely breathed[/b ] to breathe, to blow
Satan's play has been to discredit it, because he knew it contains the seed of God that will bring forth Christ in those who receive this seed. War was declared on the Bible a long time ago and some of us still suffer from the effects of this war. There is not one Christian that has not been touched by this war. Doubt has crossed each mind and some are still bleeding. Some have truly fallen and some are dead.
The only cure for your wounds is within that which you doubt. The only healing is within the pages of that, which is doubted. Strange nut true. We cannot recover if we do not take the Word and restore it to what the Word says about itself:Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, [b]and the Word was God. Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made through him; and without him was not anything made that hath been made.
Joh 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
Joh 1:5 And the light shineth in the darkness; and the darkness apprehended it not.
Darkness apprehended it not. It turned it into "just another book" "Inspired" but not the real "breath of God" Not something that we can stand on, believe in 100%, but something to doubt, to mistrust, something not perfect, not the Rock.
Once we correct this error within ourselves we start to see more:
SO: If Jesus =Bible=God then this makes sense:Mat 10:32 Every one therefore who shall confess me before men, him will I also confess before my Father who is in heaven.
Mat 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father who is in heaven.
"Confess" means : to speak the same as So if you take the truth of what the Bible tells us about itself and substitute WORD for ME, then we see that IF we speak the same as the Bible before men, then Jesus will speak the same as us before the Father. So its becomes more than the traditional view of proclaiming Jesus as the Son of God before men. It now becomes speaking the truth of the Bible, before people. Those people might and sometimes do laugh at you when you do that, because speaking the Word asks for faith. Believing , before seeing and that is not something most people understand.So you might be ridiculed when you "speak the same as" and say : By His stripes I was healed. The people will say: But we still see you are not healed!!! And you then must decide to either: Speak as they speak, or "speak the same as" Jesus (Word) and if you speak the same as the Word, then Jesus declared that before the Father and the Father sends the Holy Spirit to bring your "speak the same as' to pass in this life. That is how to get a miracle.
love C
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Numeric Materials
(Note from David: We at UBM do not sell any materials but because these important materials are not easily found we are making Mr. Irwin's service known to you. I highly recommend the Numeric English New Testament by Ivan Panin. It is the most accurate in the world, proven by God's own numeric pattern. I also highly recommend Mathematics Prove Holy Scripture, also called Astounding New Discoveries, by Karl Sabiers. It is the simplest, clearest explanation of the numeric pattern as a way to prove authenticity of the original Greek and Hebrew texts. Not so much as a letter may be added or removed without being exposed by this pattern. The American Revised Version mentioned in this little book has been popularly known as the American Standard Version.)
Bible Numerics Materials By Ivan Panin, Price List and Order Form.
* Numeric English New Testament @$25.00......................
* Writings of Ivan Panin @$30.00 .
* Shorter Works @$5.00........................
* Bible Numerics @$3.00........................
* The Last Twelve Verses Of Mark @$4.00........................
* A Holy Challenge For Today @$5.00........................
* Verbal Inspiration Of The Bible
Scientifically Demonstrated @$4.00........................
* Inspiration Of The Scriptures
Scientifically Demonstrated @$1.00........................
* Inspiration Of The Hebrew Scriptures
Scientifically Demonstrated @$4.00........................
* The Gospel And The Kingdom @$1.50........................
* Once In Grace, Always In Grace? @$5.00........................
About Bible Numerics (Not by Mr. Panin)
* Mathematics Prove Holy Scripture by Karl Sabiers @$5.00........................
* Absolute Mathematical Proofs @$1.00........................
Please SEND payable to "J.W. Irwin"
Prices are in United States Dollars. Please add 25% for postage and handling.
J. W. Irwin
81 Bayview Ridge
Toronto, Ontario
M2L 1E3
Fax: 416-445-4060
Jirwinc617@rogers.com
Short Descriptions of the above materials.
Numeric English New Testament - translated by Ivan Panin - 630 pages. This is the translation of the Greek New Testament as established by Bible Numerics. By using, wherever possible, the same English word to translate the same Greek word, this translation puts the reader as nearly as possible on the same footing as the reader of the Greek text. Both Greek and English Numeric New Testaments together represent the most significant application of Panin's discovery of Bible Numerics.
Shorter Works of Ivan Panin - 83 pages. This booklet contains a short biography of Ivan Panin, works on Genesis, Jehoiakim, Word Order, Romans, Genesis, Verbal Inspiration demonstrated and others.
Bible Numerics - by Ivan Panin - 30 pages. This paper is the text of a speech delivered by Ivan Panin at Caxton Hall in Westminster England which illustrates the mathematical and numeric interrelationship of all Scripture.
The Last Twelve Verses of Mark - by Ivan Panin - 56 pages. This work establishes the validity of the last 12 verses as Scripture by the multiple of sevens (7's) numerical structure and interrelationship of the words, forms, occurrences, syllables and letters as they relate to the whole Gospel of Mark.
A Holy Challenge for Today - by Ivan Panin - 69 pages. This is an excellent small booklet describing why Panin began to pursue Bible numerics and how he approached a revision of the New Testament text. It also compares the various manuscripts and the whole process Panin went through in creating his revision. This booklet was completed shortly before his death in1942.
Verbal Inspiration of the Bible Scientifically Demonstrated - by Ivan Panin - 94 pages. This is a compilation of writings by A.B. King and six other clergy on Ivan Panin's scientific proof of the verbal inspiration of the Scriptures with the bulk of the work being material by Ivan Panin demonstrating numeric phenomena of the Bible. This shows the Bible to be constructed "on a marvelous numeric design running through its every conceivable detail" The numeric design insures its text against errors and interpolation.
The Inspiration of the Scriptures Scientifically Demonstrated - by Ivan Panin - 15 pages. This is Ivan Panin's letter given in reply to a challenge of Christianity by a person known only a W.R.L., found in the newspaper The New York Sun of Sunday November 19, 1899. Mr. Panin "happened" to find the paper left on a vacant train seat. The editorial section had actually devoted several months to a discussion of the truths of Christianity, Ivan Panin did not know this at the time, having not seen the paper for years. This is a good summary which was published to the readers of the Sun in 1899.
Inspiration of the Hebrew Scriptures Scientifically Demonstrated - by Ivan Panin - 61 pages. This paper shows that the Hebrew Old Testament is constructed of a numeric design running through every conceivable detail.
The Gospel of the Kingdom - by Ivan Panin - 32 pages. A paper addressing the question of Dispensationalism.
Once in Grace Always in Grace? - Principles for the Interpretation of Scripture by Ivan Panin - 116 pages. This booklet addresses the question that the title presents by reviewing pertinent texts, the issue of quoting Scripture and true Christian assurance. This is a topic wrestled with by most Christians at one time or another and the booklet expounds Panin's thought provoking conclusions.
Mathematics Prove Holy Scriptures - by Karl Sabiers - 158 pages. This work by Karl Sabiers is a biography and exposition of the discoveries made by Ivan Panin including examples, how they were discovered, how they prove the Bible is a God breathed Book, and how the discoveries affect the reader. It is a good synopsis of Panin's work.
Absolute Mathematical Proofs on Divine Inspiration of the Bible - by Dr. Keith Brooks - 15 pages. This tract reviews the works of Ivan Panin and is a nice introductory summary for sharing with those interested in the subject of the title or as a witnessing tract.
(Note from David: We at UBM do not sell any materials but because these important materials are not easily found we are making Mr. Irwin's service known to you. I highly recommend the Numeric English New Testament by Ivan Panin. It is the most accurate in the world, proven by God's own numeric pattern. I also highly recommend Mathematics Prove Holy Scripture, also called Astounding New Discoveries, by Karl Sabiers. It is the simplest, clearest explanation of the numeric pattern as a way to prove authenticity of the original Greek and Hebrew texts. Not so much as a letter may be added or removed without being exposed by this pattern. The American Revised Version mentioned in this little book has been popularly known as the American Standard Version.)
Bible Numerics Materials By Ivan Panin, Price List and Order Form.
* Numeric English New Testament @$25.00......................
* Writings of Ivan Panin @$30.00 .
* Shorter Works @$5.00........................
* Bible Numerics @$3.00........................
* The Last Twelve Verses Of Mark @$4.00........................
* A Holy Challenge For Today @$5.00........................
* Verbal Inspiration Of The Bible
Scientifically Demonstrated @$4.00........................
* Inspiration Of The Scriptures
Scientifically Demonstrated @$1.00........................
* Inspiration Of The Hebrew Scriptures
Scientifically Demonstrated @$4.00........................
* The Gospel And The Kingdom @$1.50........................
* Once In Grace, Always In Grace? @$5.00........................
About Bible Numerics (Not by Mr. Panin)
* Mathematics Prove Holy Scripture by Karl Sabiers @$5.00........................
* Absolute Mathematical Proofs @$1.00........................
Please SEND payable to "J.W. Irwin"
Prices are in United States Dollars. Please add 25% for postage and handling.
J. W. Irwin
81 Bayview Ridge
Toronto, Ontario
M2L 1E3
Fax: 416-445-4060
Jirwinc617@rogers.com
Short Descriptions of the above materials.
Numeric English New Testament - translated by Ivan Panin - 630 pages. This is the translation of the Greek New Testament as established by Bible Numerics. By using, wherever possible, the same English word to translate the same Greek word, this translation puts the reader as nearly as possible on the same footing as the reader of the Greek text. Both Greek and English Numeric New Testaments together represent the most significant application of Panin's discovery of Bible Numerics.
Shorter Works of Ivan Panin - 83 pages. This booklet contains a short biography of Ivan Panin, works on Genesis, Jehoiakim, Word Order, Romans, Genesis, Verbal Inspiration demonstrated and others.
Bible Numerics - by Ivan Panin - 30 pages. This paper is the text of a speech delivered by Ivan Panin at Caxton Hall in Westminster England which illustrates the mathematical and numeric interrelationship of all Scripture.
The Last Twelve Verses of Mark - by Ivan Panin - 56 pages. This work establishes the validity of the last 12 verses as Scripture by the multiple of sevens (7's) numerical structure and interrelationship of the words, forms, occurrences, syllables and letters as they relate to the whole Gospel of Mark.
A Holy Challenge for Today - by Ivan Panin - 69 pages. This is an excellent small booklet describing why Panin began to pursue Bible numerics and how he approached a revision of the New Testament text. It also compares the various manuscripts and the whole process Panin went through in creating his revision. This booklet was completed shortly before his death in1942.
Verbal Inspiration of the Bible Scientifically Demonstrated - by Ivan Panin - 94 pages. This is a compilation of writings by A.B. King and six other clergy on Ivan Panin's scientific proof of the verbal inspiration of the Scriptures with the bulk of the work being material by Ivan Panin demonstrating numeric phenomena of the Bible. This shows the Bible to be constructed "on a marvelous numeric design running through its every conceivable detail" The numeric design insures its text against errors and interpolation.
The Inspiration of the Scriptures Scientifically Demonstrated - by Ivan Panin - 15 pages. This is Ivan Panin's letter given in reply to a challenge of Christianity by a person known only a W.R.L., found in the newspaper The New York Sun of Sunday November 19, 1899. Mr. Panin "happened" to find the paper left on a vacant train seat. The editorial section had actually devoted several months to a discussion of the truths of Christianity, Ivan Panin did not know this at the time, having not seen the paper for years. This is a good summary which was published to the readers of the Sun in 1899.
Inspiration of the Hebrew Scriptures Scientifically Demonstrated - by Ivan Panin - 61 pages. This paper shows that the Hebrew Old Testament is constructed of a numeric design running through every conceivable detail.
The Gospel of the Kingdom - by Ivan Panin - 32 pages. A paper addressing the question of Dispensationalism.
Once in Grace Always in Grace? - Principles for the Interpretation of Scripture by Ivan Panin - 116 pages. This booklet addresses the question that the title presents by reviewing pertinent texts, the issue of quoting Scripture and true Christian assurance. This is a topic wrestled with by most Christians at one time or another and the booklet expounds Panin's thought provoking conclusions.
Mathematics Prove Holy Scriptures - by Karl Sabiers - 158 pages. This work by Karl Sabiers is a biography and exposition of the discoveries made by Ivan Panin including examples, how they were discovered, how they prove the Bible is a God breathed Book, and how the discoveries affect the reader. It is a good synopsis of Panin's work.
Absolute Mathematical Proofs on Divine Inspiration of the Bible - by Dr. Keith Brooks - 15 pages. This tract reviews the works of Ivan Panin and is a nice introductory summary for sharing with those interested in the subject of the title or as a witnessing tract.
I have bought the Numeric New Testament and it is wonderful. Its a simple little blue Bible , but it has within its covers all the truth you will need. Its pure.
Just a note: Mr Irwin can be payed via PayPal as well now. It easy and safe. Its well worth getting some of these materials.
love C
Myth 2
QUOTE
Myth: You have to study and get a degree to be a pastor.
That is a big myth and not anywhere in Scripture.
We have one example of a Scripture trained person . Paul.
Paul was a trained scholar in the Scriptures. He was a pharisee and he knew the Law very well. But what he preached, he did not get from "seminary" . He received it from the Lord Jesus Himself. It was a gift.
Let's look at how do you become a pastor:
Eph 4:11 And he (Jesus) gave some to be apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
Eph 4:12 for the perfecting of the saints, unto the work of ministering, unto the building up of the body of Christ:
OK, so in the same way that you get to be an apostle, prophet, evangelist and teacher: By gift.
So we can rest assure that the Lord did not have seminary in the beginning and its not necessary now.
Also: People today believe that the pastor is the head of the congregation. They pay him a salary.
If that is true, why is the pastor mentioned amongst all the other ministries that are gifts and why then do we not pay all of them a salary? Who decided to make them chief in charge? Who brought in the law that you can only be a pastor (this word meaning shepherd) when you have a degree in some university?
It does not ever tell us in the Bible to send our shepherds to a human institute so that they can be taught by humans how to shepherd the flock of God.
God gives that as a gift.
Facts to look for: Look in the Bible and try and find :Head Pastor, assistant Pastor.
Also: Has anybody noticed that in the church today, somebody has made all the other gifts serve under the pastor?
Have you noticed that there are five ministries (like fingers on the hand.........we are the body of Christ)
So the five-fold ministry is suppose to work as a unit and not a one-man-show.......... for the perfecting of the saints, unto the work of ministering, unto the building up of the body of Christ:
Question 1: Why do we pay the pastor, and not the prophet, teacher etc as well?
Question 2 : If it is a gift, is this gift lacking ? If its lacking then we believe we can add to it by human study and not by revelation and the leading of the Holy Spirit.
Question 3: If seminary is the answer, then why do we not send out prophets to prophet-seminary ?And all the other gift-ministries as well? What can we call this course: Maybe: A Doctorate in : Finishing what God left out of His gifts.
Its not as silly as it sounds, that is exactly what people have done!
C
That is a big myth and not anywhere in Scripture.
We have one example of a Scripture trained person . Paul.
Paul was a trained scholar in the Scriptures. He was a pharisee and he knew the Law very well. But what he preached, he did not get from "seminary" . He received it from the Lord Jesus Himself. It was a gift.
Let's look at how do you become a pastor:
Eph 4:11 And he (Jesus) gave some to be apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
Eph 4:12 for the perfecting of the saints, unto the work of ministering, unto the building up of the body of Christ:
OK, so in the same way that you get to be an apostle, prophet, evangelist and teacher: By gift.
So we can rest assure that the Lord did not have seminary in the beginning and its not necessary now.
Also: People today believe that the pastor is the head of the congregation. They pay him a salary.
If that is true, why is the pastor mentioned amongst all the other ministries that are gifts and why then do we not pay all of them a salary? Who decided to make them chief in charge? Who brought in the law that you can only be a pastor (this word meaning shepherd) when you have a degree in some university?
It does not ever tell us in the Bible to send our shepherds to a human institute so that they can be taught by humans how to shepherd the flock of God.
God gives that as a gift.
Facts to look for: Look in the Bible and try and find :Head Pastor, assistant Pastor.
Also: Has anybody noticed that in the church today, somebody has made all the other gifts serve under the pastor?
Have you noticed that there are five ministries (like fingers on the hand.........we are the body of Christ)
So the five-fold ministry is suppose to work as a unit and not a one-man-show.......... for the perfecting of the saints, unto the work of ministering, unto the building up of the body of Christ:
Question 1: Why do we pay the pastor, and not the prophet, teacher etc as well?
Question 2 : If it is a gift, is this gift lacking ? If its lacking then we believe we can add to it by human study and not by revelation and the leading of the Holy Spirit.
Question 3: If seminary is the answer, then why do we not send out prophets to prophet-seminary ?And all the other gift-ministries as well? What can we call this course: Maybe: A Doctorate in : Finishing what God left out of His gifts.
Its not as silly as it sounds, that is exactly what people have done!
C
Myth 3
QUOTE
We have to understand something here first.
Lets look at what the Greek AND Hebrew tells us about the NAME of the Lord. Both the name of Jesus and the "Name of the Lord"
G3686
ὄνομα
onoma
on'-om-ah
From a presumed derivative of the base of G1097 (compare G3685); a name (literally or figuratively), (authority, character): - called, (+ sur-) name (-d).
Now lets look at the Hebrew:
H8034
שׁם
shêm
shame
A primitive word (perhaps rather from H7760 through the idea of definite and conspicuous position; compare H8064); an appellation, as a mark or memorial of individuality; by implication honor, authority, character: - + base, [in-] fame [-ous], name (-d), renown, report.
In both the Hebrew and the Greek, the word that we translate "name" means character and authority.
So , if we take what we know now and bring it into a practical situation, it will do the following:
When we speak "In the Name of Jesus" we (as were the Apostles of old) are saying "In the character and authority of Jesus! "
Further research brings the word "Nature" into it as well. SO it will be: "In the nature, character and authority of Jesus"
SO we have to know: His Nature, Character and Authority when we pray for somebody and not just speak a name as if it by itself have magical power. We are , as Christians, in fact part of His Body and when we speak we have to 1Pe 4:11 if any man speaketh, speaking as it were oracles of God; if any man ministereth, ministering as of the strength which God supplieth: that in all things God may be glorified through Jesus Christ, whose is the glory and the dominion for ever and ever.Amen .
So the Bible tells us to speak in His character, nature and authority, as the oracle of God. And what we do we must do in His nature , character and authority.
Now we see how important the scripture is that says: Gal 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I that live, but Christ living in me: and that life which I now live in the flesh I live in faith, the faith which is in the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself up for me.
Can you see that if you do not really believe AND LIVE this scripture, that you cannot speak in His character, nature and authority, because in fact it is Christ Himself that speaks forth from those who believe that they are dead and no longer live, but that Christ now dwells in them.
It is achieved only by believing it.Believing that you are actually dead to self and that Christ now lives in you. Believing it, BEFORE you see it, only believing it because God says it is so.
If you believe something: you also live a life that shows that you believe it. You: "Walk the walk AND talk the talk"
Have a NEW look at this scripture and see what it is really saying to Christians today. Some call themselves by His character and authority and nature, yet they do not walk what they talk. They bring another gospel and speak not as the oracles of God:Exo 20:7 Thou shalt not take the name(nature, character and authority) of Jehovah thy God in vain; for Jehovah will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name(Nature, character and authority) in vain.
Lets look at what the Greek AND Hebrew tells us about the NAME of the Lord. Both the name of Jesus and the "Name of the Lord"
G3686
ὄνομα
onoma
on'-om-ah
From a presumed derivative of the base of G1097 (compare G3685); a name (literally or figuratively), (authority, character): - called, (+ sur-) name (-d).
Now lets look at the Hebrew:
H8034
שׁם
shêm
shame
A primitive word (perhaps rather from H7760 through the idea of definite and conspicuous position; compare H8064); an appellation, as a mark or memorial of individuality; by implication honor, authority, character: - + base, [in-] fame [-ous], name (-d), renown, report.
In both the Hebrew and the Greek, the word that we translate "name" means character and authority.
So , if we take what we know now and bring it into a practical situation, it will do the following:
When we speak "In the Name of Jesus" we (as were the Apostles of old) are saying "In the character and authority of Jesus! "
Further research brings the word "Nature" into it as well. SO it will be: "In the nature, character and authority of Jesus"
SO we have to know: His Nature, Character and Authority when we pray for somebody and not just speak a name as if it by itself have magical power. We are , as Christians, in fact part of His Body and when we speak we have to 1Pe 4:11 if any man speaketh, speaking as it were oracles of God; if any man ministereth, ministering as of the strength which God supplieth: that in all things God may be glorified through Jesus Christ, whose is the glory and the dominion for ever and ever.Amen .
So the Bible tells us to speak in His character, nature and authority, as the oracle of God. And what we do we must do in His nature , character and authority.
Now we see how important the scripture is that says: Gal 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I that live, but Christ living in me: and that life which I now live in the flesh I live in faith, the faith which is in the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself up for me.
Can you see that if you do not really believe AND LIVE this scripture, that you cannot speak in His character, nature and authority, because in fact it is Christ Himself that speaks forth from those who believe that they are dead and no longer live, but that Christ now dwells in them.
It is achieved only by believing it.Believing that you are actually dead to self and that Christ now lives in you. Believing it, BEFORE you see it, only believing it because God says it is so.
If you believe something: you also live a life that shows that you believe it. You: "Walk the walk AND talk the talk"
Have a NEW look at this scripture and see what it is really saying to Christians today. Some call themselves by His character and authority and nature, yet they do not walk what they talk. They bring another gospel and speak not as the oracles of God:Exo 20:7 Thou shalt not take the name(nature, character and authority) of Jehovah thy God in vain; for Jehovah will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name(Nature, character and authority) in vain.
Myth 4
QUOTE
Myth: God does not break a promise.
Truth: God breaks a promise if there was a condition to that promise and we (Israel or the church or individuals) do not fulfil that condition.
Have a look and see:
Here is the promise:Exo 12:25 And it shall come to pass, when ye are come to the land which Jehovah will give you, according as he hath promised, that ye shall keep this service.
Num 14:35 I, Jehovah, have spoken, surely this will I do unto all this evil congregation, that are gathered together against me: in this wilderness they shall be consumed, and there they shall die.
This is the same people that God made the promise to that they will come to the land that Jehovah will give them.
Why did God break His promise to them? God killed all of those who came out of Egypt (20 years and older) and only their children inherited the promise. God broke His promise to that first generation.
Because they believed not His PROMISES.
He said He will take them into the land of milk and honey and they did not believe Him. They believed the evil report from the spies.
Num 32:8 Thus did your fathers, when I sent them from Kadesh-barnea to see the land.
Num 32:9 For when they went up unto the valley of Eshcol, and saw the land, they discouraged the heart of the children of Israel, that they should not go into the land which Jehovah had given them
.
Num 32:10 And Jehovah's anger was kindled in that day, and he sware, saying,
Num 32:11 Surely none of the men that came up out of Egypt, from twenty years old and upward, shall see the land which I sware unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob; because they have not wholly followed me:
Num 32:12 save Caleb the son of Jephunneh the Kenizzite, and Joshua the son of Nun; because they have wholly followed Jehovah.
Num 32:13 And Jehovah's anger was kindled against Israel, and he made them wander to and fro in the wilderness forty years, until all the generation, that had done evil in the sight of Jehovah, was consumed.
Num 32:14 And, behold, ye are risen up in your fathers' stead, an increase of sinful men, to augment yet the fierce anger of Jehovah toward Israel.
Num 32:15 For if ye turn away from after him, he will yet again leave them in the wilderness; and ye will destroy all this people.
We also have PROMISES and we can only conquer the land (our own fleshly man) if we believe in the PROMISES. Then we can enter the PROMISEd land .
If we are not going to believe the promises, : we die.
We must not think that God cannot reprobate us as well. Paul himself said that he could be reprobated.
1Co 9:27 but I buffet my body, and bring it into bondage: lest by any means, after that I have preached to others, I myself should be rejected.
Rejected in the Greek means:G96
ἀδόκιμος
adokimos
ad-ok'-ee-mos
From G1 (as a negative particle) and G1384; unapproved, that is, rejected; by implication worthless (literally or morally): - castaway, rejected, reprobate.
Once saved, always saved is a doctrine of men, designed by satan, to rob Christians. You can see how God, Who says that HE is the same , yesterday, today and forever, is concerned by how we believe Him.
He does not regard unbelief lightly.
Heb 11:6 and without faith it is impossible to be well-pleasing unto him; for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that seek after him.
People, there is a difference between believing IN God and believing God. Even the devils believe IN God. They know He is real.
But we are also called to believe Him.
Here are some of the promises. Have a look and count how many you believe. You will know how many, by your actions.In other words, do you live as if the following are true?
(Epe.2:8) for by grace have ye been saved through faith; (1 Pet.2:24) who his own self bare our sins in his body by whose stripes we were healed; (Col.1:13) who delivered us out of the power of darkness and translated us into the kingdom of the Son of his love; (2 Cor.5:18) who reconciled us to himself; (Gal.2:20) I have been crucified with Christ, and it is no longer I that live, but Christ liveth in me; (Gal. 3:13) Christ redeemed us from the curse; (1 Pet.1:3) the Father begat us again by the resurrection of Jesus Christ; (Heb.10:10) We have been sanctified ; (14) He hath perfected forever them that are sanctified; (Epe.1:3) who hath blessed us with every spiritual blessing, and God (2 Pet.1:3) hath granted unto us all things
Here is the scripture that OSAS love to use:Rom 8:38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers,
Rom 8:39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Notice that the love of God is: in Christ Jesus our Lord.
In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word WAS God. This same Word is Christ Jesus. SO if we are IN CHRIST JESUS, we are in the love of God.How are we in Christ Jesus? Well firstly through faith.
Secondly when we walk as He walked. If we obey the Word, if we believe the Word, if we believe the promises. If we trust Him to do this for us, to bring us to a place of total obedience. (because it is ALL GRACE, so no man can boast)
Do no try and do this in your own strength. Rely on God to do this, or you will fail, like Peter did.
It grace. Even your ability to have faith is given to you by God. He called you. He started the good work in you and please do not try and finish it yourself: He is the author AND finisher of your faith. Trust HIM. Trust in the Word of God and its promises, They are sure and they are true.
Its nothing of yourself.Its all God. Ask Him to help you, because it is so very , very important that you do that. No good works will buy anything for you, only faith in the DONE works will give life to the believer.
Ask God to enable you to have the right faith and the right actions. Ask Him to make it REAL to you and do not rely on your own wisdom or intellect.Ask God for His wisdom.
love C
Truth: God breaks a promise if there was a condition to that promise and we (Israel or the church or individuals) do not fulfil that condition.
Have a look and see:
Here is the promise:Exo 12:25 And it shall come to pass, when ye are come to the land which Jehovah will give you, according as he hath promised, that ye shall keep this service.
Num 14:35 I, Jehovah, have spoken, surely this will I do unto all this evil congregation, that are gathered together against me: in this wilderness they shall be consumed, and there they shall die.
This is the same people that God made the promise to that they will come to the land that Jehovah will give them.
Why did God break His promise to them? God killed all of those who came out of Egypt (20 years and older) and only their children inherited the promise. God broke His promise to that first generation.
Because they believed not His PROMISES.
He said He will take them into the land of milk and honey and they did not believe Him. They believed the evil report from the spies.
QUOTE
Num 32:8 Thus did your fathers, when I sent them from Kadesh-barnea to see the land.
Num 32:9 For when they went up unto the valley of Eshcol, and saw the land, they discouraged the heart of the children of Israel, that they should not go into the land which Jehovah had given them
.
Num 32:10 And Jehovah's anger was kindled in that day, and he sware, saying,
Num 32:11 Surely none of the men that came up out of Egypt, from twenty years old and upward, shall see the land which I sware unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob; because they have not wholly followed me:
Num 32:12 save Caleb the son of Jephunneh the Kenizzite, and Joshua the son of Nun; because they have wholly followed Jehovah.
Num 32:13 And Jehovah's anger was kindled against Israel, and he made them wander to and fro in the wilderness forty years, until all the generation, that had done evil in the sight of Jehovah, was consumed.
Num 32:14 And, behold, ye are risen up in your fathers' stead, an increase of sinful men, to augment yet the fierce anger of Jehovah toward Israel.
Num 32:15 For if ye turn away from after him, he will yet again leave them in the wilderness; and ye will destroy all this people.
We also have PROMISES and we can only conquer the land (our own fleshly man) if we believe in the PROMISES. Then we can enter the PROMISEd land .
If we are not going to believe the promises, : we die.
We must not think that God cannot reprobate us as well. Paul himself said that he could be reprobated.
1Co 9:27 but I buffet my body, and bring it into bondage: lest by any means, after that I have preached to others, I myself should be rejected.
Rejected in the Greek means:G96
ἀδόκιμος
adokimos
ad-ok'-ee-mos
From G1 (as a negative particle) and G1384; unapproved, that is, rejected; by implication worthless (literally or morally): - castaway, rejected, reprobate.
Once saved, always saved is a doctrine of men, designed by satan, to rob Christians. You can see how God, Who says that HE is the same , yesterday, today and forever, is concerned by how we believe Him.
He does not regard unbelief lightly.
Heb 11:6 and without faith it is impossible to be well-pleasing unto him; for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that seek after him.
People, there is a difference between believing IN God and believing God. Even the devils believe IN God. They know He is real.
But we are also called to believe Him.
Here are some of the promises. Have a look and count how many you believe. You will know how many, by your actions.In other words, do you live as if the following are true?
(Epe.2:8) for by grace have ye been saved through faith; (1 Pet.2:24) who his own self bare our sins in his body by whose stripes we were healed; (Col.1:13) who delivered us out of the power of darkness and translated us into the kingdom of the Son of his love; (2 Cor.5:18) who reconciled us to himself; (Gal.2:20) I have been crucified with Christ, and it is no longer I that live, but Christ liveth in me; (Gal. 3:13) Christ redeemed us from the curse; (1 Pet.1:3) the Father begat us again by the resurrection of Jesus Christ; (Heb.10:10) We have been sanctified ; (14) He hath perfected forever them that are sanctified; (Epe.1:3) who hath blessed us with every spiritual blessing, and God (2 Pet.1:3) hath granted unto us all things
Here is the scripture that OSAS love to use:Rom 8:38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers,
Rom 8:39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Notice that the love of God is: in Christ Jesus our Lord.
In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word WAS God. This same Word is Christ Jesus. SO if we are IN CHRIST JESUS, we are in the love of God.How are we in Christ Jesus? Well firstly through faith.
Secondly when we walk as He walked. If we obey the Word, if we believe the Word, if we believe the promises. If we trust Him to do this for us, to bring us to a place of total obedience. (because it is ALL GRACE, so no man can boast)
Do no try and do this in your own strength. Rely on God to do this, or you will fail, like Peter did.
It grace. Even your ability to have faith is given to you by God. He called you. He started the good work in you and please do not try and finish it yourself: He is the author AND finisher of your faith. Trust HIM. Trust in the Word of God and its promises, They are sure and they are true.
Its nothing of yourself.Its all God. Ask Him to help you, because it is so very , very important that you do that. No good works will buy anything for you, only faith in the DONE works will give life to the believer.
Ask God to enable you to have the right faith and the right actions. Ask Him to make it REAL to you and do not rely on your own wisdom or intellect.Ask God for His wisdom.
love C
Myht 5
QUOTE
Myth: We are sinners saved by grace.
Bible truth: We use to be sinners, now we are saints, saved by grace.
We do not find any reference to the Myth that we are sinners saved by grace in the Bible. The only thing we do find is that God calls the saved individual a saint.
Look here: Jesus is talking to the disciples, he talks about the sinners, but He is excluding the disciples from the equation.Look carefully, Jesus is teaching them how to live, He is telling them (the saints) that they must not be the same as the sinners. He is making a dividing line here , between saints and sinners.
First you must know why:He told them that they were already CLEAN because of the Word:Joh 15:3 Already ye are clean because of the word which I have spoken unto you.
Luk 6:31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
Luk 6:32 And if ye love them that love you, what thank have ye (Saints)? for even sinners love those that love them.
Luk 6:33 And if ye do good to them that do good to you, what thank have ye (Saints)? for even sinners do the same.
Luk 6:34 And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye (Saints) ? even sinners lend to sinners, to receive again as much.
(Now here He is not speaking to the sinners or about them, He is now speaking to the Saints: )
Luk 6:35 But love your enemies, and do them good, and lend, never despairing; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be sons of the Most High[/b](Notice that God has no sinners for sons): for he is kind toward the unthankful and evil.
Luk 6:36 Be ye merciful, even as your Father (again, God has no sinners for children) is merciful.
Luk 6:37 And judge not, and ye shall not be judged: and condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: release, and ye shall be released:
Luk 6:38 give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, shaken together, running
over, shall they give into your bosom. For with what measure ye mete it shall be measured to you again.
................................
OK this always bring a rush of answers why this cannot be.
Cornelius, we still sin, we are still sinners.
The answer (like always) is in FAITH.. God does not expect YOU to overcome your sin, but He expects you to believe that He has already cleansed you, washed you, and GIVEN you the victory in Christ.
Can you see it?
No
May we believe something , before we can see it?
Yes
Why?
Because God says it is so.
Read Romans, Paul had a problem with this as well, and then the Lord showed him, that if he is not out there in WILLING sin, that God is on his side. His sin (that he sometimes still struggle with, and his WILL is against that sin) that God does not hold that against him. Paul says: Its not me that is sinning, I am against that sin. God says: I agree, now its you and I against that sin. God says: Just STAND on My Word and you will be delivered. I WILL deliver you if you can believe that I HAVE delivered you at the cross.
God uses faith as well. He calls things that "are not" as "if they were" You can do that to and you will see the power of God move into your life.
Rom 4:17 ...................... and calleth the [b]things that are not, as though they were.
So Saints, start believing your inheritance. Speak the same as Jesus before the world and you will see the power of God.
You are all correct: YOU cannot walk without sin: But you are all wrong if you believe that it is not in the power of God to enable you through faith.
In short: If you want victory, you first have to believe that you already HAVE IT. Because Christ IN YOU has the victory
I will add more scripture to this later.
C
Bible truth: We use to be sinners, now we are saints, saved by grace.
We do not find any reference to the Myth that we are sinners saved by grace in the Bible. The only thing we do find is that God calls the saved individual a saint.
Look here: Jesus is talking to the disciples, he talks about the sinners, but He is excluding the disciples from the equation.Look carefully, Jesus is teaching them how to live, He is telling them (the saints) that they must not be the same as the sinners. He is making a dividing line here , between saints and sinners.
First you must know why:He told them that they were already CLEAN because of the Word:Joh 15:3 Already ye are clean because of the word which I have spoken unto you.
Luk 6:31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
Luk 6:32 And if ye love them that love you, what thank have ye (Saints)? for even sinners love those that love them.
Luk 6:33 And if ye do good to them that do good to you, what thank have ye (Saints)? for even sinners do the same.
Luk 6:34 And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye (Saints) ? even sinners lend to sinners, to receive again as much.
(Now here He is not speaking to the sinners or about them, He is now speaking to the Saints: )
Luk 6:35 But love your enemies, and do them good, and lend, never despairing; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be sons of the Most High[/b](Notice that God has no sinners for sons): for he is kind toward the unthankful and evil.
Luk 6:36 Be ye merciful, even as your Father (again, God has no sinners for children) is merciful.
Luk 6:37 And judge not, and ye shall not be judged: and condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: release, and ye shall be released:
Luk 6:38 give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, shaken together, running
over, shall they give into your bosom. For with what measure ye mete it shall be measured to you again.
................................
OK this always bring a rush of answers why this cannot be.
Cornelius, we still sin, we are still sinners.
The answer (like always) is in FAITH.. God does not expect YOU to overcome your sin, but He expects you to believe that He has already cleansed you, washed you, and GIVEN you the victory in Christ.
Can you see it?
No
May we believe something , before we can see it?
Yes
Why?
Because God says it is so.
Read Romans, Paul had a problem with this as well, and then the Lord showed him, that if he is not out there in WILLING sin, that God is on his side. His sin (that he sometimes still struggle with, and his WILL is against that sin) that God does not hold that against him. Paul says: Its not me that is sinning, I am against that sin. God says: I agree, now its you and I against that sin. God says: Just STAND on My Word and you will be delivered. I WILL deliver you if you can believe that I HAVE delivered you at the cross.
God uses faith as well. He calls things that "are not" as "if they were" You can do that to and you will see the power of God move into your life.
Rom 4:17 ...................... and calleth the [b]things that are not, as though they were.
So Saints, start believing your inheritance. Speak the same as Jesus before the world and you will see the power of God.
You are all correct: YOU cannot walk without sin: But you are all wrong if you believe that it is not in the power of God to enable you through faith.
In short: If you want victory, you first have to believe that you already HAVE IT. Because Christ IN YOU has the victory
I will add more scripture to this later.
C
Continued.....................
QUOTE
In order to believe the Myth that we are "sinners saved by grace" we must then be able to say: We are sinner saints and that is just not anywhere in the Bible. Its an oxymoron, because they really are opposites of the spiritual spectrum. Sinner (needs salvation) . Saint (sanctified , holy)
Act 9:13 But Ananias answered, Lord, I have heard from many of this man, how much evil he did to thy saints at Jerusalem:
Act 9:32 And it came to pass, as Peter went throughout all parts, he came down also to the saints that dwelt at Lydda.
Act 26:10 And this I also did in Jerusalem: and I both shut up many of the saints in prisons, having received authority from the chief priests, and when they were put to death I gave my vote against them.
Rom 1:7 to all that are in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. (notice "to be" is added and is not in the original)
Rom 8:27 and he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
Rom 15:25 but now, I say, I go unto Jerusalem, ministering unto the saints.
Rom 15:26 For it hath been the good pleasure of Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the poor among the saints that are at Jerusalem.
Rom 15:31 that I may be delivered from them that are disobedient in Judaea, and that my ministration which I have for Jerusalem may be acceptable to the saints;
Rom 16:1 I commend unto you Phoebe our sister, who is a servant of the church that is at Cenchreae:
Rom 16:2 that ye receive her in the Lord, worthily of the saints, and that ye assist her in whatsoever matter she may have need of you: for she herself also hath been a helper of many, and of mine own self.
Rom 16:15 Salute Philologus and Julia, Nereus and his sister, and Olympas, and all the saints that are with them.
1Co 1:2 unto the church of God which is at Corinth, even them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, ("even" and "to be" are added and it is not in the original)
Here is a great one:
1Co 6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against his neighbor, go to law before the unrighteous,(sinners ) and not before the saints?
1Co 6:2 Or know ye not that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world is judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
Just a thought: When do you think the saints will judge the world? (The world being everybody that's not saved) Before or after the rapture? Just asking................
back to the saints:
2Co 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus through the will of God, and Timothy our brother, unto the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints that are in the whole of Achaia:
So we are saints.
Many believe they are not saints.
I do not want to go into the false doctrines about who's a saint and who is not. Those are doctrines designed to keep the truth from you. Satan hopes that you will never discover the truth.
love C
Act 9:13 But Ananias answered, Lord, I have heard from many of this man, how much evil he did to thy saints at Jerusalem:
Act 9:32 And it came to pass, as Peter went throughout all parts, he came down also to the saints that dwelt at Lydda.
Act 26:10 And this I also did in Jerusalem: and I both shut up many of the saints in prisons, having received authority from the chief priests, and when they were put to death I gave my vote against them.
Rom 1:7 to all that are in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. (notice "to be" is added and is not in the original)
Rom 8:27 and he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
Rom 15:25 but now, I say, I go unto Jerusalem, ministering unto the saints.
Rom 15:26 For it hath been the good pleasure of Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the poor among the saints that are at Jerusalem.
Rom 15:31 that I may be delivered from them that are disobedient in Judaea, and that my ministration which I have for Jerusalem may be acceptable to the saints;
Rom 16:1 I commend unto you Phoebe our sister, who is a servant of the church that is at Cenchreae:
Rom 16:2 that ye receive her in the Lord, worthily of the saints, and that ye assist her in whatsoever matter she may have need of you: for she herself also hath been a helper of many, and of mine own self.
Rom 16:15 Salute Philologus and Julia, Nereus and his sister, and Olympas, and all the saints that are with them.
1Co 1:2 unto the church of God which is at Corinth, even them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, ("even" and "to be" are added and it is not in the original)
Here is a great one:
1Co 6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against his neighbor, go to law before the unrighteous,(sinners ) and not before the saints?
1Co 6:2 Or know ye not that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world is judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
Just a thought: When do you think the saints will judge the world? (The world being everybody that's not saved) Before or after the rapture? Just asking................
back to the saints:
2Co 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus through the will of God, and Timothy our brother, unto the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints that are in the whole of Achaia:
So we are saints.
Many believe they are not saints.
I do not want to go into the false doctrines about who's a saint and who is not. Those are doctrines designed to keep the truth from you. Satan hopes that you will never discover the truth.
love C