A man
Aug 10 2007, 03:12 PM
I am appalled at what I read in Josh's post entitled, "even if god does help"... that Josh is not saved, that he's evil and under the condemnation of God?
WE ALL ARE but for the grace of GOD.
How could Josh hate the evil he does if he isn't saved? - he would love it and not want to stop.
How could he hate the evil if the seed hadn't been planted, his heart circumcised?
How could he be seeking with great tears and travail if he were not saved?
Why would he even want God to hear him?
I pray that God shuts all the mouths of the ones hurting and hindering this little one coming to the LORD - shame on you!!!
Have you no COMPASSION???
Are you not also in your infirmity?
Was your salvation easy?
Perhaps his is not.
Let each man work out HIS OWN salvation with fear and trembling.
I know Josh rages now but WHO are ANY of YOU to judge him as evil???
EXCUBITOR... if you were standing before me now, against everything I believe, I would knock you out; as well as whomever said he was not saved.
you sound like this guy...
The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men [are], extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
Yeah he was perfect but God did not justify him, he justified the other.
peacemaker
Aug 10 2007, 04:40 PM
A Man of G-d. There isn't many times I would speek out. You are out of line. I called others to fast a pray here, and yet you want to pick others here apart. Saying that something is wrong and wanting to help back up another in pray so that they can get strangth, because they show none, this isn't sin. To twist the reasons for this and calling it judging agaisnt others that wants to help this young man is what is wrong. He has been here for sometime, and because of that we know him well.
I must point out brother, that you are a new person here, and as such I will just think that you didn't know any better.
As for those that are now a pass those things that please the ears, we are not wanting him to feel like things are just all right, true love will tell the truth and help you up when you fall. And to say to others here, "man" that you would just like to hit them isn't showing the love of Christ!!! get back in the word and leave others alone!
Father, I ask that you forgive this person, for he doesn't know what he is doing. In Jesus name, amen.
MOVING ON!!!
This is a set time to get together in agreement for another, I will say that If I was there neededs to be a deep love here. Josh, know that if we didn't love you we just wouldn't be wasting out time. I have a family to spend time with, but more over, If I know that you are out there in danger for what ever reason, even if it be at your own hands, I would be so far after you. This drive to help you comes from G-d. I left you up today, you are very important to me, as some here think that this is judging you, this is not so, I am not blind and can see you are in pain. I am reaching out to help, as well as others.
I have been here many times for you as well as others. I know and trust that you know us well and better than a moment of emotion. History has show our love for you.
Father, I left up Josh right now and ask that you help him be able to know that he is loved here. That we have not grown sick, nor tired of his pain and still am here to help him through it. We point him to you because only you can do what is needed for him. We are nothing, but you are everything. You are love.
In Jesus name, amen.
OneOfHisHandmaidens
Aug 11 2007, 01:51 AM
ummmm......I could be wrong.....but... peacemaker...I think you totally misunderstood what A-man said. My suggestion is...that you re-read it again....slowly. I don't believe he was criticizing you in any way at all.
Like I said....I might be wrong. See what you think.
excubitor
Aug 11 2007, 04:11 AM
QUOTE(A man @ Aug 11 2007, 06:12 AM) [snapback]118854[/snapback]
EXCUBITOR... if you were standing before me now, against everything I believe, I would knock you out; as well as whomever said he was not saved.
you sound like this guy...
The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men [are], extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
I'm not exactly sure what I said wrong which was deserving of such a hateful comment. Still I suppose Jesus actually king hit quite a few pharisees and knocked out more than a dozen sadducees so I suppose you are justified in your hatefilled remark. NOT
End-Time Calling
Aug 11 2007, 02:07 PM
You know what Josh, if you are relying on men to find God then you will not find Him. Here on the forum people only guess at whats gonna happen based on what they see happing in the world today, that relates to what the bible says will happen in the end of this age. Some are truly revelations from God, and others are just guesses. The people on the forum are just that, people on a forum. If you want answers about God then go to God. The bible will not make the mistakes that these people make. It is perfect and if you'll notice its NEVER been wrong. Do not base your faith off of what a bunch of men and women say on the internet.
I assure you that you are loved by many on this forum. Not because we have to but because when we died to ourselves and were reborn the creation God intended, it is now in our nature. Its is an honest love, a heartfelt love, And soooo much more love coming from the Father in Heaven.
People on this site and others talk about the signs of the times so much cause there is great hope of His return soon based on the events happening. Also because soon there will be a deciever on Earth to lead all astray whom are not spiritualy ready. This deciever will lead anyone whom follows him to eternal punishment. People are zealous about this cause this world is so immoral and full of Hate and that my friend will change upon THe Kings Return.
Don't let the American society of Evolution, anything goes, love your money and hate your neighbor trick you like so many. If you will notice so many societies just like our have sprouted up only to dissapear for their choice of Cutting God out.
He will return to gather those whom have accepted his FREE gift of Eternal life and punish those whom chose not to, to eternal punishment in hell. He created hell for the fallen angels not man, but any man whom chooses to take the same path as those angels of rebellion will suffer the same punishment. It is for this reason also that people on here share what they do. They want to warn of the impending Judgment from God. To tell those whom don't know that even though you've sinned you are capable of being forgiven (for free) and living with God or being separted forever in torment for choosing not to accept his gift.
Don't let the ignorance of man push you away from your loving Creator. He waits for you, so that He may take you into His bosum for protection and guide you on the path HE has set before you.I must go but please don't let a humans stupidity chase you away from God when obvioulsy he is Calling after you. Accept what he is offering before you are decieved in the coming time of Deception.
peacemaker
Aug 11 2007, 11:28 PM
QUOTE(End-Time Calling @ Aug 11 2007, 03:07 PM) [snapback]118920[/snapback]
You know what Josh, if you are relying on men to find God then you will not find Him. Here on the forum people only guess at whats gonna happen based on what they see happing in the world today, that relates to what the bible says will happen in the end of this age. Some are truly revelations from God, and others are just guesses. The people on the forum are just that, people on a forum. If you want answers about God then go to God. The bible will not make the mistakes that these people make. It is perfect and if you'll notice its NEVER been wrong. Do not base your faith off of what a bunch of men and women say on the internet.
I assure you that you are loved by many on this forum. Not because we have to but because when we died to ourselves and were reborn the creation God intended, it is now in our nature. Its is an honest love, a heartfelt love, And soooo much more love coming from the Father in Heaven.
People on this site and others talk about the signs of the times so much cause there is great hope of His return soon based on the events happening. Also because soon there will be a deciever on Earth to lead all astray whom are not spiritualy ready. This deciever will lead anyone whom follows him to eternal punishment. People are zealous about this cause this world is so immoral and full of Hate and that my friend will change upon THe Kings Return.
Don't let the American society of Evolution, anything goes, love your money and hate your neighbor trick you like so many. If you will notice so many societies just like our have sprouted up only to dissapear for their choice of Cutting God out.
He will return to gather those whom have accepted his FREE gift of Eternal life and punish those whom chose not to, to eternal punishment in hell. He created hell for the fallen angels not man, but any man whom chooses to take the same path as those angels of rebellion will suffer the same punishment. It is for this reason also that people on here share what they do. They want to warn of the impending Judgment from God. To tell those whom don't know that even though you've sinned you are capable of being forgiven (for free) and living with God or being separted forever in torment for choosing not to accept his gift.
Don't let the ignorance of man push you away from your loving Creator. He waits for you, so that He may take you into His bosum for protection and guide you on the path HE has set before you.I must go but please don't let a humans stupidity chase you away from God when obvioulsy he is Calling after you. Accept what he is offering before you are decieved in the coming time of Deception.
Agree!!!
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