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PETER 666 AND THE SIGN IN THE NET … 153

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast ..... Rev 13:18.

Have you wondered why God DID NOT state the language to be used?

I believe He did not because that language was not in existence in that day, but is to be English, the common world-wide language of our day ... the last day.

It is not too difficult to "make" a name sum at 666 using the gematria of Hebrew or Greek because of their high letter values ... 1-400 and 1-800.

It is extremely difficult to have a name sum at 666 using simple English gematria wherein A=1 B=2 C=3 ... to ... Z=26.

Over a period of 20 years examining biblically identified legitimate political and/or religious "suspects", only one came close and only one summed at 666 ... it is that difficult.

I stress the word "simple" because some current "pop prophets" in their zeal, have resorted to some pretty complex systems to make their current suspect "add up".

One was A=6 B=12 C=18 etc ... another was ... A=101 B=102 C=103 etc.


WHY DID GOD PLACE 153 FISH IN THE NET ?

To identify "Satan" as personified by Peter representing the future papacy.

To reveal the language that the end time beast is to be numbered in.

To give evidence AGAINST the common belief that one of the three biblical languages is to be used ... Aramaic Hebrew Greek.

All numeric examples given here will be simple English wherein A=1 ... Z=26

ARAMAIC HEBREW GREEK = 153

The Book of John has been called "The Book of Signs". One of those signs is the “sign in the net” …153. That this number has some spiritual significance is denied by none.

Note that instead of its normal name (Sea of Galilee) being used, it is designated by its ROMAN name, Sea of Tiberias.

John 21's main character is not Jesus, nor is it John, but it is PETER.

The word that Jesus "added" to Simon was ... "peter".
The meaning of this word "small stone" indicates to ... count or calculate.
Small stones were used for that purpose.

Here is wisdom ... count or calculate the number of the beast.

SIMON AND PETER = 153

It is not coincidence that it is Peter that is associated with the "counting" even though Jesus did not specify anyone in particular. John 21:7.

You may recall that the only person that Jesus ever called "Satan" other than Satan himself was ... PETER. Matt. 16:23.

Please note that the victors (of understanding) over the image mark and number of the beast, sing two specific "songs" ... as recorded in Rev 15:3.

Do you think God would know how His chapter and verses would finally be numbered? You can mortgage the house He would !

PETER was naked ... is this the norm? John 21:7.

This chapter also contains that strange discourse wherein Jesus asks Peter three times if he loves Him.

It also tells us that IN PETER'S OLD AGE, his death will GLORIFY GOD. John 21:18-19.

I think a logical understanding of this passage, would be that each pope is considered to be the IMAGE OF PETER.

When pope Paul VI addressed the United Nations, he said: "Do you know who I am? My name is Peter".

Vatican dogma declares its pope to be the image and successor of Peter. When Vatican City and the THE CHURCH OF PETER is finally destroyed, GOD WILL BE GLORIFIED. See Revelation 17 and 18.

Why did God place 153 fish in the net for Peter to count?

NUMERIC PROOF = 153
TO REVEAL SATAN = 153


Sir Isaac Newton, scientist and Bible student had this to say: "If God was so angry with the Jews for not searching more diligently into the prophecies which He had given them to know Christ by, why should we think He will excuse us for not searching into the prophecies which He hath given us to know Antichrist by?"

Newton had no doubts as to the identity of Antichrist and the Whore of Babylon ... that is, the Church of Rome and its pope.

In Newton's mind, the task of the scholar was to show that biblical prophecies had been fulfilled in historical events. One could know, however, only AFTER the event, and it was not for the student of prophecy to become a prophet ... until the event occurred, the prophecies pertaining to it could well remain obscure. This was an important point for Newton ... all would become clear in due course.

Rev 13 tells us that the FALSE PROPHET creates an "image" that dies, yet comes back to life and can speak.

As noted earlier, each pope is considered to be the image of Peter.

When "one of its heads dies", the Vatican through its College of Cardinals "creates" another "image" of the previous Peter. And this "image" can speak and has life. Rev 13:3.

The interpretation ... the VATICAN IS THE FALSE PROPHET
The word "vatic" means "prophet".

VATIC = PROPHET = VATICAN = FALSE PROPHET

By the required 2/3 vote (66.6%) of the 111 cardinals present, in the case of Pope John Paul The Second, he became their new "image of Peter" and this is how John of the Revelation describes the, not so mysterious, image that has life and can speak. Rev 13:3.

This explanation does not require rocket science knowledge, nor is it sensationalism as some prophecy "experts" would have us believe. It is factual, logical and it is biblical.

Let no man deceive you by any means, for (that day shall not come) except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.

THE FALLING AWAY = 153

THE IMAGE OF PETER = 153


Is this coincidence? ROMAN NUMBERS 1+V+X+L+C+D sum at ... 666

ROMAN NUMBERS = 153
THE GREAT WHORE = 153


Why did God place 153 fish in the net? As a numbering sign to “count the beast”.

A NUMBERING SIGN = 153
COUNT THE BEAST = 153


Here is wisdom ... Let he that hath understanding count the number.

One of the songs that is sung by the victors over the image mark and number of the beast is "Moses Song" ... this is found recorded for us in Rev ..... 15:3

Moses Song (Ps 90) tells us to apply our hearts to wisdom.

APPLY WISDOM = 153
SIGN OF WISDOM = 153


The distinguished Professor JA Emerton submitted a short article to the Journal of Theological Studies regarding the 153 fish. He points out that it has proved a puzzle to commentators, but it is widely believed that there is some symbolic significance in the number but no interpretation has won universal acceptance.

Professor Emerton states that this does not exclude the possibility that this particular number is to be interpreted by the principle of gematria, similar to the numbering of the beast in Revelation 13:18.

He also notes that others have pointed out that the number 153 is the sum of the numbers 1 to 17. He states that this interpretation, which is at least as old as Augustine, demands that some significance be found for 17 as well as 153.

I offer the following points of connection between 17 and 153 ... and to the numbered beast.

The 17th chapter of Revelation deals exclusively with the great whore and Mystery Babylon ... as noted earlier, "The Great Whore" sums at 153.

The names "Simon" and "Peter" occur 17 times in John's controversial chapter 21.

Augustine stopped at 17 but if you continue the count 1 to 26 (A to Z) the sum is 351. If you "cast your eyes" to 351 from the same side that Jesus instructed the net be cast (right side) you will perceive ..... 153

The "right side" is the side that Hebrew is written from. This may (?) relate to the book that is written "within and in reverse". Rev 5:1.

Why would the victors over the number of the beast sing a song of Moses?

PSALM OF MOSES = 153

One of Moses songs, Psalm 90 ... just "happens" to consist of 17 verses. Not only that, but Psalm 90 marks the first of 17 psalms referred to as the “Numbers" Book of Psalms.

NUMBER PSALMS = 153

This Numbers Book of Psalms consist of Psalms 90 to 106 inclusive.
So here we have 17 verses and 17 psalms.

90+91+92+93+94+95+96+97+98+99+100+101+102+103+104+105+106
just "happens" to sum at ... 1666

Another song of Moses is recorded in Deut 32 verses 1-44

It is called the "Song of the Rock". It speaks of the apostasy of Israel, but I believe it prophetically makes reference to the Church of Rome, as it compares their "rock" Peter to our Rock Jesus.

vs 31 for their rock is not as our Rock ... their wine is the poison of dragons ...

vs 34 is not this laid up in store with me, and sealed up among my treasures? Might this song be a sealed treasure of Moses?

SEALED TREASURE = 153
THE SEALED SONGS = 153


vs 37 And he shall say, where are their gods, their rock in who they trusted ...
vs 44 And Moses came and spake all the words of this song.

Note that the verses of this peculiar song are from 1-44

I say peculiar, because this song in the Hebrew Bible, has a very unusual visual construction ... it is like two "pillars of words". It is the only song in the Bible like this.

Another feature of this song is that it has encoded in it the GEMATRIA of Moses name which is ... 345.

This should be another clue for students of prophecy as to why the victors over the number of the beast (Rev 15:3) would sing the Song of Moses, as gematria is required to solve the mystery.

The 144 thousands of Rev 14, the 24 Elders, the 4 ZoA and as noted in David's Psalm 144 ... all sing a new song.

SING A NEW PSALM = 153

THE KINGDOM OF GOD = 153

THE ORACLES OF GOD = 153

The dictionary defines our letter "X" as a stigma, a mark of ownership.
It is also used as a SIGN before the names of popes.

"Stigma" ... an obsolete letter intermediate between the 5th and 6th letters.
When used as a number ie gematria, it represents 600, 60, 6

Gematria comes from the Greek word "geometria" meaning "earth measures".
This is alluded to in Rev 21:17 ... the "measured" wall of 144 cubits.

EARTH MEASURES = 153

Gematria is NOT numerology. When used as directed by God, it is simply a letter used as a number.
Rev 13:18.

LETTER NUMBER = 153

IQ = intelligence quotient. I is our 9th letter, Q our 17th ... 9 x 17 = 153

THE NUMBER OF GOD = 153

Revelation 12:7 tells us that Michael and his angels (messengers) fight and defeat the dragon and his angels, and Rev 20 speaks about an angel having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. The False Prophet's Basilica of St Peter is built in the shape of a key.

A MESSENGER OF GOD = 153
MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL = 153


Note that David wrote 73 of the psalms and holds “the key”. Rev 3:7
Is it coincidence that “count” and “number” each sum at 73?
If David wrote a “new song”, would it be his song 74?

JESUS = 74
YESHUA = 74

JEWISH = 74
MESSIAH = 74

THE KEY = 74


And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshiped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands: and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years ... Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the resurrection; on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God, and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. Rev 20.

PRIESTS OF GOD = 153

Where were the watchmen on the wall ?

The Reformation martyrs had warned us about the errors of Romanism ... was Christianity deaf ... or deceived? If possible even the very elect would be deceived.

As Sir Isaac Newton said regarding biblical prophecies, one could know, however, only after the event ... Until the event occurred, the prophecies pertaining to it could well remain obscure ... all would become clear in due course.

Let no man deceive you by any means: for (that day shall not come) except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition. Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God shewing himself that he is God ... and now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed IN HIS TIME ... And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming. 2 Thess 2.

The "PRIMATE" of Rome ... is the "BEAST" of Revelation 13.

THE IMAGE OF PETER = 153

Behold, I stand at the door and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will dine with him, and he with me.
Rev 3:20

I OPENED THE DOOR = 153


THE 153 ... 144 CONNECTION

Although the information presented here has been centered around the sign in the net 153, and Peter representing the RCC and its papacy, there is a biblical connection between two other prophetic signs.

That would be Daniel's deciphering and interpretation of the writing on the "wall" and the special "measurement" of the wall of 144 cubits enclosing God's mystical City in Rev 21.

In Daniel, the writing on the wall was ... "Mene Mene Tekel Upharsin"

However, the interpretation was ... Mene Tekel Peres.

MENE TEKEL PERES = 153

When I first started studying the sign in the net, I was not aware of any connection between it and 144 ... but surprisingly there is.

SIGN IN THE NET = 144

The "144" sign in the Bible is an interesting story for another time, but the following numeric examples demonstrate that God has a PURPOSE for this sign also, as it too relates to 666 , Peter and the papacy.

It was my original intent (at this time) to limit my presentation to 153 and 144, but I couldn't resist including this little "insignificant" detail found in I Chronicles 25:7.

David (the key) had 288 temple singers "trained and intelligent" in the songs of the Lord. According to Rabbinic sources, it is my understanding that his 288 singers flanked each side of the congregation ... 144 and 144 ... and sang as one.

A TEMPLE SINGER = 144
A TRAINED SINGER = 144


David's Psalm 144 tells us to sing a "new song" on an (unknown) "ten stringed instrument".

TEN STRINGED INSTRUMENT = 288

David's Psalm 144 is loaded with reference to the false church and the mark in the right hand, ie the Roman Catholic sign of the cross, and always given with the right hand, and placed upon the forehead of the infant followers of the beast at baptism, and upon the forehead of the adult followers of the beast on Ash Wednesdays.

BEAST IMAGE AND MARK = 144
MARK OF THE BEAST = 144
THE BRAND OF ROME = 144
THE FALLING AWAY = 144
THE VATICAN HILL = 144
PETER THE BEAST = 144
PETER'S CHURCH = 144
SIGN OF CROSS = 144



I close with one of my favorite signs in the Bible. It is a popular teaching today that the 144 thousands return with Jesus when His feet shall stand in that day upon the Mount of Olives.
This is recorded in Zec ..... 14:4

And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark: But it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that ... at evening time it shall be light.

AT EVENING TIME = 144

IT SHALL BE LIGHT = 144


There are other unusual signs in the Hebrew and Greek OT and NT, but that is a story for another time.

TO GOD BE THE GLORY !

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signet


Shalom Aleichem, Calvin.

What an awesome study and ministry to us.

Thank you again.


Blessings,
Signet

Got one other question...959...got any ideas...i heard something from
a link from 7 that was very interesting...but I was wonderning if you had come across this number...and it's depth...

calvin
959 … got any ideas?

Sorry Signet, I don’t, but thanks for the encouragement for the “Peter 666” article. God’s prophetic numbers are seldom recognized for their significance in our understanding and interpretation of prophecy.

Other than 1666 for the “Numbers Psalms” (Psalms 90-106) I do not look for anything beyond “The Number” … 888 … which is Iesous in Greek.

Speaking of 8’s, our friend Seven Thunders may find this interesting, as he spoke about eight being the “Dominical Number” of Christ.

DOMINICAL NUMBER = 153
THE NUMBER OF GOD = 153


Using the numerical values for our English alphabet letters A=1 … Z=26
results in the following “signs”.

The longest chapter in the Bible is Psalm 119 … it is an acrostic.
One who arranges things alphabetically (like the acrostic verses) is referred to as being an “abecedarius”

ABECEDARIUS = 88
ACROSTIC = 88
VERSES = 88


The Greek numerical value for Iesous is 888.

IESOUS = 88
EXODUS = 88
DAYSTAR = 88
DOCTRINE = 88


GOD IS ONE = 88

LIKE A LION = 88
PASCHAL LAMB = 88


It is said that the term “son of man” occurs 88 times in the NT when referring to Jesus.

The victors over the NUMBER of the beast had God’s harp. Rev 15:2, 15:3.

GOD’S HARP = 88

Harps in the OT are a sign of prophecy, and in the Book of Revelation, we hear of “harpers harping with their harps” associated with the 144k with the “new song” that is not understood.

H-H-H … transposes into … 8-8-8

What I find most significant regarding the inspiration of His Word, is that the spelling of His name is with an “I” (not an E) in Isaiah 8:8

IMMANUEL = 88

As the end approaches, we hear the “trump of God”.
The Greek word for “trump” is … salpigx.

TRUMP = 88
SALPIGX= 88


The Hebrew word for the psalms or songs is … “tehillim”.

TEHILLIM = 88

Perhaps someone can confirm (or deny) this … some time ago, I thought I had read that the word “Jerusalem” means … vision.

VISION = 88

Over the years, the main purpose of my studies have been in trying to determine the correct understanding or interpretation of prophecy rather than its “numbers”, but you mathematical geeks may enjoy this!

Zechariah speaks about a man with a “measuring line”.
Jesus is our Ruler, and a “ruler” is a measuring device.
Rev 21 speaks about a special “measurement” for the wall of 144 cubits.

JESUS = 74
RULER = 74
CUBITS = 74


The literal meaning of out term “Canon” of Scripture is … “measuring rod”.

MEASURING ROD = 144

Some students of prophecy believe that the 144 thousand accompany Jesus when His “feet” touch the mount of Olives and it cleaves in two. This is noted in Zechariah …14:4

MY FEET = 74

74 feet = 888 inches

7 feet 4 inches = 88 inches



Do you think these “signs” are designed by the God who knows the end from the beginning or just mere coincidence?

If any reading this are 100% literalists in their understanding and interpretation of prophecy, by now, you have probably written me off as a “nut case” … however, for those that look deeper and attempt to plumb the depths of His Word, I hope that some of this made sense for you.

THE WATER OF LIFE = 153
THE NUMBER OF GOD = 153

calvin
signet
dear Brother,

i dream in acrostics...

i think you are on point!

blessings,
signet
bonomike
And CALIFORNIA = 88.

As I've pointed out elsewhere, I think we'd probably do good to pay at least a little attention to this, for prayer and warning:

http://www.californiajudgment2008.citymax.com

The number 153 is all over it as well.

In Christ,

Mike
signet
thank you, Mike.

i have been going through this website...and there is a lot of good material there...

blessings,
signet
calvin
Seven Thunders,

In that I supplied some evidence connecting "Peter", each pope being considered to be the "image" of Peter representing the Church of Peter, and the numbering of the beast, and Peter being the only person Jesus ever called "Satan" other that Satan himself ... I have a question for you in regard to your field of study ... etymology.

The word "peter" was added to Simon, and it was "Peter" that was associated with the counting of the 153 fish, and that same word has been associated with "to count or calculate" as small stones were used for that purpose during biblical times.

NUMERIC PROOF = 153
TO REVEAL SATAN = 153
THE IMAGE OF PETER = 153

SIMON AND PETER = 153


The Church of Peter is well known for it's selling of indulgences and performing "masses" (for a fee) for the dead in purgatory etc..

Question: Is there an etymological connection between the words "Simon" and ... "simony"?

Simony: the buying or selling of sacred or spiritual things, as sacraments or benefoces.

If so, would you think it reasonable to conclude that God has marked him with those two names as a prophetic sign for students of prophecy?

calvin



THE SEVEN THUNDERS
Calvin...

It is very difficult to say with any tangible credence, because it would require actually knowing God’s motivational intent. Thus, it may be plausible, but it may also be just coincidental, and thus your premise may be stretching the true reality, because the word “simony”, defined as buying or selling of sacred or spiritual things, as sacraments or benefices, has its sole origin not in “Simon Peter”, but in “Simon Magus”, the Samaritan magician whose offer of money to learn how to impart the Holy Ghost to others angered Peter, himself (Acts 8:19-24); so herein lies the confusion to potentially draw an erroneous conclusion, for clearly Simon Peter and Simon Magnus are contradistinct images. The term simony was applied as a derogatory term many centuries later by critics of the practice (of simony) in the Catholic Church. Additionally, in its truest sense in etymological analysis the name “Simõn”, being the Greek form of the Hebrew “Simeon” (shim’on), translates literally into “heard”, "hearing" and “hearkening”, thus "Simon Peter" literally translates into "hearkening stone", "hearkening pebble" or "hearing pebble". Hence, Christ's promise to Simon Peter, "Upon this rock I shall build my Church." Most interpert this as the Church of Rome, but I believe these words have yet to be fulfilled and that Christ was actually refering to a crowning Ultimate True Church at the End of Ages, being a body of people spiritually married to Christ (a walless church), not an organized world religion with a titanic infrastructure. This future Ultimate Church will not be possible if it were not for Christ planting the "seed" for it in Simon Peter. It is refered to in Ezekiel 37 as the "exceedingly great army" that transforms from the Valley of Dead Bones, today's Dead Church, for she shall be a "Great Warrior Bride".
calvin
Thanks Seven,

"... "simony", defined as buying or selling of sacred or spiritual things, as sacraments or benefices, has its sole origin not in "Simon Peter", but in "Simon Magus" ... "

Seven, in that you used the term "sole origin", would it therefore be correct to say that the word "simony" did not exist prior to the biblical account?
THE SEVEN THUNDERS
Calvin, yes you are correct the terminology "simony" did not exist before the Simon Magnus account recorded in Acts. It ultimately became a dubious practice that mushroomed into a complex system under the expanding hierarchy and orthodoxy of church infrastructure...

SOURCE QUOTE FROM: The Reader's Encyclopedia, Thomas Y. Crowell Company publisher, New York 1965, Volume Two page 932 "Simon"...

"Simony is the ecclesiastical crime of paying for offices or positions in the hierarchy of a church, named after Simon Magus, who appears in the Acts of the Apostles 8:18-24. Simon Magus offers the disciples of Jesus, Peter and John, payment so that anyone he would place his hands on would receive the power of the Holy Spirit. This is the origin of the term simony.

The intertwining of temporal with spiritual authority in the Middle Ages caused endless problems with simony and accusations of simony. Secular rulers wanted to employ the educated and centrally organized clergy in their administrations, and often treated their spiritual positions as adjuncts to the secular administrative roles.

Canon Law also outlawed as simony some acts that did not involve the sale of offices, but the sale of spiritual authority: the sale of tithes, the taking of a fee for confession, absolution, marriage or burial, and the concealment of one in mortal sin or the reconcilement of an impenitent for the sake of gain. Just what was or was not simony was strenuously litigated: as one commentator notes, the widespread practice of simony is best evidenced by the number of reported ecclesiastical decisions as to what is or is not simony.

Simony did serious harm to the moral standing of the Roman Catholic Church. Dante Alighieri condemns simonists to the eighth circle of hell in his Inferno, where he encounters Pope Nicholas III buried upside down, the soles of his feet burning with oil, in a mock baptism. Nicholas goes on to predict the damnation of both Pope Boniface VIII, the Pope in office at the time the Divine Comedy is set, and Pope Clement V, his successor, for that sin. Writers in the early Renaissance, such as Niccolò Machiavelli and Erasmus, condemned the practice, while Blaise Pascal attacked the casuistic defenses offered by those accused of simony in his Lettres provinciales.

The Church of England also struggled with the practice after its separation from the Catholic Church. While English law recognized simony as an offense, it treated it as merely an ecclesiastical matter, rather than a crime, for which the punishment was forfeiture of the office or any advantage from the offense and severance of any patronage relationship with the person who bestowed the office."
calvin
Thank you Seven for your very thorough explanation.
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