As a small boy in the early 1960's my parents ordered the World Book Encyclopedia set which included an oversized Atlas. As I turned to the page with the map of Asia and the Middle East, I was amazed to see the image of a robed Kneeling King in prayer composed by the landmass of Saudi Arabia, all the nations of the Middle East, Turkey and the Egyptian Nile Delta forming His praying hands. I don’t know if anyone else could see this anthropomorphic form, but I was simply filled with wonder over it, and would often turn to this portion of the Atlas with bewilderment, contemplating the peculiar image etched onto the very face of the Earth.

Well, apparently I wasn’t hallucinating, years later Lloyd Stewart Carpenter came to the same conclusion. Additionally, with the advent of modern technology including sonar and satellite X-ray mapping of the oceanic topographical floors of the earth, this “King” was not the only image that the Earth has held in secret for millennia and yielded up for the End of Ages.

Carpenter has surmised the existence of the “Face of God” portrayed on the entire floor of the Pacific Ocean, and He is weeping. There is a “Trail of Tears” etched into the oceanic topography via sea floor trenches, rift faults and fracture zones, tears that spill out of the “Right Eye” and traverse across the Pacific and Indian Ocean Basins and ultimately lead up the floor of the Red Sea to the Suez Canal. The canal appears to actually represent the superimposed “nails” of crucifixion through the wrists of the robed Kneeling King of the Middle East, of course representing the King of Kings and Lord of Lords, the crucified and resurrected Christ Jesus.

The “Face of God” is looking toward the East. The sightline from the “Eye” leads to the city of Jerusalem, over which He is weeping. I have noted that this line is at a 44º angle (the “Dominical Number 8” found in the name "Yeshua", being "888") to the earth’s geographic latitudes, and it bisects directly through Mount Magazine (“Storehouse”) in west Arkansas, the suspected location of the Ark of the Covenant as researched and determined by Roy Taylor: http://www.roytaylorministries.com/am00096.htm

Here is a YouTube video of Carpenter’s introduction to his research, and a WEB site on the Face, the Young King, and other topographical images (demons and angels) integrated into the Earth’s Geological Stone Sermon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O178Pe9z-2M

http://www.777news.com/

When l get my lap top l'll look at some of these interesting things. I did view the map..Hard to see.

Once l saw the most perfect face of Christ in the trees during an intense time of prayer...It stayed for a half an hour. I always wished l'd have taken a picture...but what would it prove and would others see it? Or would it be viewed like a piece of burnt toast with Mary on it. Or an old taco with Christ on the flip side...
No..l've kept in in my memory and allowed it to encourage me over the years. I'm not to quick to discredit what others see even if l can't see it.

Greetings 7thunders:

I took a look at the website and wasn't able view the youtube one but then check out 777news tho. The map of the "Weeping King" does helps makes sense that God had promised to Abraham and to his descendants through Isaac that the land between the River Nile to the River Euphrates will theirs. The pacific ocean one I couldn't really make out what they were looking at too well tho.

Sincerely yours,

Wendy

Does anyone have information scriptural and scientific about the earth coming off her axis' in the last days. I would like to know more about this subject. Thanks

John wrote of stars falling to the earth (Revelation 6:13): “And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.”

Isaiah 34:4…“And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree.”

John refers to Isaiah's prophecy that the heavens will be "rolled together as a scroll" (Revelation 6:14): “And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.”

Though some exotic interpretations have proposed that these elements suggest the collapse of the Known Universe when ultimately the Local Universe will reach inertia and blink out, new research is suggesting that this scenario will not be humanly detectable, that it will be an extremely gradual process over a long duration of titanic time, so really no one will be able to witness this within their own lifetime.

Instead, these biblical references logically appear to indicate a future electromagnetic pole shift, and appear to be visual documentations and “prophetic observances” from the perspective of an earthbound viewer during that pending pole shift.

Pole shifts are historical, there is a large body of evidence of their occurrences in the geological record, as well as in the ancient record, experienced by people of former “Earth Ages” that predate our current Earth Age of “known” history. Geological evidence points to former Arctic and Antarctic orientations, i.e. the Brazilian Highlands which have a glaciated past, South Africa, the Philippines, West Australia, etc. Pole shifts are not autocatalytic, but are precipitated by an external celestial agent, an electromagnetic body like a passing star or rogue wandering planet, something of enormous scale larger than the Earth.

The historical record indicates that such an external body was responsible for precipitating a pole shift that triggered the Flood of Noah…

Diodorus Siculus tells us that in former times, “a monster called Aegides, who vomited flames, appeared in Phrygia (Turkey); hence spreading along Mount Taurus, the conflagration burnt down all the woods as far as India; then, with a retrograde course, swept the forests of Mount Lebanon, and extended as far as Egypt and Africa; at last a stop was put to it by Minerva. The Phrygians remember well this conflagration and the flood which followed it.”

This would explain the special “gopher wood” that the Ark of Noah was constructed from. Gopher wood is resin-treated timber making it not only waterproof and stronger than steel for the purpose of strength to endure the immense current forces of the catastrophic Flood, but it also “fireproofed” the Ark to resist the great conflagration precipitated by the fire vomiting monster Aegides (celestial intruder), the evidential source that laid down the Carboniferous Strata to the Geological Column when half the Earth’s forests fried into the postdiluvium buried carbon fields of today’s coal mines.

During a pole shift to an earthbound viewer the appearance of the stars in the sky will look like the stars are being “rolled up” or suddenly “falling” from the heavens. This is due to the sudden shift of the Earth off its axial, the stars will appear as blurred streaks of light as if the sky is falling. Simultaneously, due to inertia, mountains and islands, as well as seas and top soil, will displace out of their locations. A simple experiment of suddenly and brutally pushing a bowl of water forward on a solid surface (or a cat’s litter box) will clearly demonstrate this… the contained substance will displace out of the container, hence the scriptural reference: “…every mountain and island were moved out of their places” is specifically citing this process of inertia due to a POLE SHIFT.

As Siculus relayed, when a pole shift occurs the Earth will always pivot at the subcontinent of India, because India and the diametrically antipodal (opposite) location on the Earth, being the East Pacific Ocean off the coast of California, are the pivotal axis of the Earth based on the Earth’s crustal and continental weight distribution and the weight of water distribution in the oceanic basins. Thus when the monster Aegides went into a “retrograde course”, i.e. “turned around and retraced its course”, this is the point in which the celestial intruder “appeared” to turn around, but in actuality what was really occurring is that this is the point in which the Earth pivoted off its axis, the pole shift.

The future pole shift will precipitate all the sidereal onslaughts described in revelation, the 100 pound mass celestial bombardment, the incineration of the land, forests, the boiling of the seas and poaching of the sea life, the Great Earthquake felt around the Earth, etc., etc., etc. This future pole shift will be produced due to the intrusion into our Solar System of the missing half of our system, the star “Wormwood” (“Dragon Tree”), which is the Sirius Binary Stellar System, the “Great Dog Star”, “Isis” (Sirius A), the “Queen of Heaven”, the “Eye of the Dragon”, the “Vulture Star”, the “Witch Star”, the return of the god Cronus (Kronos), Sirius B, who comes to devour his children with fire. As the “12,000-Year Cyclic Sirian-Solar Reconvergence” ensues all the debris from the debris belts will dislodge and rain down on all the planets with mass celestial bombardment; hence, this is the sole origin of the periodic process of crater impacting on the solid body planets. As Sirius A and B pass between the Earth and the Sun (which is technically Sirius C), because the Sirian system rotates in the opposite direction to our system, both systems have reverse electromagnetic polarities, and because “opposites attract”, then each star must flip upside down as the negative polarity of our Sun’s north pole and the positive polarity of Sirius A's north pole turn towards each other. Simultaneously, this will result in each planet having to reorient to the new magnetic polarities, thus the Earth must also flip upside down producing a pole shift.

On a spiritual note: About the stars of heaven:
First we have to look at the Biblical use of "stars" Then we will see that it is backed up by the "figs falling from the fig tree" as well.

Gen 22:17 that in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heavens, and as the sand which is upon the seashore. And thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies.

Gen 37:9 And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it to his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed yet a dream: and, behold, the sun and the moon and eleven stars made obeisance to me.

Num 24:17 I see him, but not now; I behold him, but not nigh: There shall come forth a star out of Jacob, And a sceptre shall rise out of Israel, And shall smite through the corners of Moab, And break down all the sons of tumult.

Deu 1:10 Jehovah your God hath multiplied you, and, behold, ye are this day as the stars of heaven for multitude.

Jdg 5:20 From heaven fought the stars, From their courses they fought against Sisera.

Dan 8:9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the glorious land.
Dan 8:10 And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and some of the host and of the stars it cast down to the ground, and trampled upon them.

Clearly it is not speaking of real stars, because if even one has to fall on Earth we will all be dead.

Dan 12:3 And they that are wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

Jud 1:13 Wild waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars,(notice that these are believers) for whom the blackness of darkness hath been reserved forever.


Now we can look at this:Rev 6:13 and the stars of the heaven fell unto the earth, as a fig tree casteth her unripe figs when she is shaken of a great wind.

Obviously again, no star can fall to Earth, let alone "stars"
The fig tree is a symbol of the church. Notice it has "unripe" figs. There is a great shaking that is coming and those who are not bearing ripe fruit (Christ) will loose their fruit.

This is revealing:
Rev 12:4 And his tail draweth the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon standeth before the woman that is about to be delivered, that when she is delivered he may devour her child.

Who is the tail of the dragon that will throw down the stars (believers who are seated in heavenly places) ???

The false prophet:Isa 9:15 ................................... and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail.

2Co 11:13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, fashioning themselves into apostles of Christ. 2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for even Satan fashioneth himself into an angel of light.
2Co 11:15 It is no great thing therefore if his ministers also fashion themselves as ministers of righteousness, whose end shall be according to their works.

Its obvious that the Lord is telling us that these are people who call themselves Christians and are standing in the pulpits today.......ministers of righteousness..........they are the tail that preaches falsehood and another Jesus in His name. (Thou shalt not take the Name of the Lord in vain....in other words, if you call yourself a Christian, you should walk as Christ)

So to sum up:Eph 2:6 and raised us up with him, and made us to sit with him in the heavenly places, in Christ Jesus: These are the "stars", the children of Abraham (those of faith.......they that believe in their hearts and with their mouths confess unto righteousness) They are in the heavenlies, just like real stars, seated in Christ. Then , in these last days, many ministers of "righteousness" have come from Satan and stepped into the pulpits and they brought another gospel, which was believed and now these stars (a third of the church) is falling from their position in the heavenlies (because of false teaching that they believed). So the tail which is the prophet that brings the lie, knocks those out of the heavenlies, because they loved not the truth, but believed the lie.

But the Lord God is sovereign. Ultimately it is HE, that is bringing this upon His people:Isa 66:4 I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did that which was evil in mine eyes, and chose that wherein I delighted not.

So we have to return to the Word. Read again for ourselves and leave the doctrine of men Isa 58:1 Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and declare unto my people their transgression, and to the house of Jacob their sins.
We must return to the Lord before its too late. We must leave the doctrines of men and believe the Word. Believe WHAT God SAYS and not just believe IN Him.
Or we will fall as the stars and the unripe figs.
C

..........but I also think that the poles are going to shift
There is a natural AND a spiritual side to all prophecy.

I just like to keep the balance and I am not saying people are wrong.

love C

Thanks, C, for that deeper spiritual lesson. You always seem to bring an elevated nature to the Word of God; that's truly a profound gift. Yes, yes, I agree; things happen in the spirit realm, physical realm and the celestial realm virtually simultaneously. Though I know there is a real spiritual person called Satan, for I have encountered him, personally, face to face, and believe me, it is an experience that no one wants; his very presence actually permeates through the air the sensation of physical evil that penetrates down through your flesh and into the very core of your bones; you can feel his evil... there is also his representation on the cosmic level.

Regarding the "TAIL OF THE DRAGON"... it is interesting to note that the crater impact site off of the Yucatan Peninsula that supposedly ended the reign of dinosaurs 65 million years ago is named after the exclusive ancient Maya name for the region, “Chicxulub”. This name literally translates into “tail of the devil”.

I’m the discoverer of the three largest crater impact sites on the Earth that completely dwarf the infamous Chicxulub Crater; the largest is 206% larger than Chicxulub and measures 1,800 miles across and supersedes the diameter of the largest known visible impact crater in the entire Solar System, the 1,300 mile wide Helles Crater on Mars. But it is the second largest of these three impact sites I want to focus on, being three times the size of Chicxulub, and I have named it “Nastapoka”; the crater, a perfect semicircle, forms the eastern rim of Hudson Bay on the Canadian Shield, thought by conventional geologists to have formed from glacial melt. However, the aboriginal name for the islands that comprise the perfect semicircle along the eastern Hudson Bay are called “Nastapoka” from which I have named the crater impact site; this name translates into “burning deceiver, cast down, broken”. Though these two locations are 2,500 miles apart, it became quite clear to me that the formation of the Chicxulub Crater and the Nastapoka Crater were from the same causative source or extraterrestrial agent, since the “devil” and the “burning deceiver cast down” are one in the same. And that source is the stellar culprit, Sirius B, mythologized as the god of the Underworld, Hades, the Egyptian Duat (Netherworld), being the god Pluto, Hades, and Osiris, being, of course, the cosmic representation of Satan. Thus, it becomes obvious that ejected stellar debris during a traversing by the star catapulted and struck the Earth, the lightning bolts of Zeus. Hence, the “tail” of the devil struck at Chicxulub, and the burning deceiver was seen cast down and broken onto the Canadian Shield, forming Nastapoka.

Additionally, because these place names existed since primordial times, it conveys that human eyewitnesses were present to experience and document these cosmocataclysmic events. Hence, if the T-K Event that created Chicxulub ended the reign of dinosaurs, then humans must have been contemporaneous with dinosaurs to know to name this region of the Yucatan “Chicxulub”, particularly since the actual crater is not physically visible, for it is buried beneath alluvium soil a mile below the sea floor, and its structure was only detected and discovered by modern electromagnetic mapping technology during oil surveying operations.

Lastly, because the two sites have similar source names, this infers that “before” the impactors struck the populous of both isolated regions knew the common source. This can only imply a former worldwide technology, a global technoculture, where the Earth had a sophisticated communications system and spoke with one language; this was the Ante-Babelean Earth.

Exceedingly Excellent!

Thank God Almighty.

my thoughts:

Jud 1:13 Wild waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars,(notice that these are believers) for whom the blackness of darkness hath been reserved forever.


Now we can look at this:Rev 6:13 and the stars of the heaven fell unto the earth, as a fig tree casteth her unripe figs when she is shaken of a great wind.


In Jude 1;13,.....the "wandering stars" are APOSTATE BELIEVERS..........they were believers, but they wandered from the Truth.

OSAS and Calvinism are un-true.

un-ripe figs are worthless, .......just like sin is worthless,........ and un-repentant sinners are worthless.

********

Will the a/c be an Apostate believer, .........who will lead a pack of Apostate believers?
Daniel 8;24 Amplified bible
the a/c shall be mighty, but not by his own power, and he shall corrupt and destroy the mighty men and the holy people--the people of the saints.....(rev 13;4-10.........dan 8;9-12........2 thess 2;3-10)

You are correct Dennis:

Jud 1:12 These are they who are hidden rocks in your love-feasts when they feast with you, shepherds that without fear feed themselves; (mostly with the money of the flock ) clouds without water,(No Word as water is the Word) carried along by winds;(winds of doctrine) autumn leaves without fruit,(There is no fruit "Christ" to be found in them) twice dead, (They were born again....the first death.the death to self............then they fall away and they die again ) plucked up by the roots;
Jud 1:13 Wild waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, for whom the blackness of darkness hath been reserved forever.
Jud 1:14 And to these also Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied, saying, Behold, the Lord came with ten thousands of his holy ones,
Jud 1:15 to execute judgment upon all, and to convict all the ungodly of all their works of ungodliness which they have ungodly wrought, and of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
Jud 1:16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their lusts (unwilling to die to self )(and their mouth speaketh great swelling words), (ain't that the truth !! )showing respect of persons for the sake of advantage.
Sounds familiar hey...I know them.
This scripture clearly is speaking about believers. Actually it points to the shepherds of the flock, that is at our love feasts and they get rich , while they starve the flock by not bringing the real Word.

C

Yeah. heard about it!

Eze 34:2 Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy, and say unto them, even to the shepherds, Thus saith the Lord Jehovah: Woe unto the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the sheep?
Eze 34:3 Ye eat the fat, and ye clothe you with the wool, ye kill the fatlings; but ye feed not the sheep.
Eze 34:4 The diseased have ye not strengthened, neither have ye healed that which was sick, neither have ye bound up that which was broken, neither have ye brought back that which was driven away, neither have ye sought that which was lost; but with force and with rigor have ye ruled over them.
Mat 20:25 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their great ones exercise authority over them.
Mat 20:26 Not so shall it be among you: but whosoever would become great among you shall be your minister;
Mat 20:27 and whosoever would be first among you shall be your servant:

Eze 34:5 And they were scattered, because there was no shepherd; and they became food to all the beasts of the field, and were scattered.
Eze 34:6 My sheep wandered through all the mountains, and upon every high hill: yea, my sheep were scattered upon all the face of the earth; and there was none that did search or seek after them.
Eze 34:7 Therefore, ye shepherds, hear the word of Jehovah:
Eze 34:8 As I live, saith the Lord Jehovah, surely forasmuch as my sheep became a prey, and my sheep became food to all the beasts of the field, because there was no shepherd, neither did my shepherds search for my sheep, but the shepherds fed themselves, and fed not my sheep;
Eze 34:9 therefore, ye shepherds, hear the word of Jehovah:
Eze 34:10 Thus saith the Lord Jehovah: Behold, I am against the shepherds; and I will require my sheep at their hand, and cause them to cease from feeding the sheep; neither shall the shepherds feed themselves any more; and I will deliver my sheep from their mouth, that they may not be food for them.
For they are not all Israel, that are of Israel:
Rom 9:7 neither, because they are Abraham's seed, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
Rom 9:8 That is, it is not the children of the flesh that are children of God; but the children of the promise are reckoned for a seed.

So the prophecy is for the church of today as well.
C

Sorry 7- I do not want to hijack your thread. I will open up a study on this in another thread.
C

C... Don't be silly... no, by all means continue. I find it's best to let things flow on their natural course. I'm rather enjoying it. It's so much fun to see how things evolve and morph into unexpected and deligtful surprises. And to think I had a small part in it humbles me and brings me great cheer.

Bless you!

-7

Judas Iscariot APPEARED to be a believer........an apostle........Jesus sent out the 12 disciples (including Iscariot) to preach, expel demons, and heal.

Iscariot and the Anti-Christ have something in common...........they are the ONLY 2 PEOPLE in the Bible called "the son of perdition" or "man of perdition".

perdition = loss, destruction

So, is Iscariot the little proto-type of the a/c?
will the a/c APPEAR to be a believer,........an apostle,..........preaching, expelling demons, and healing?.....and then,....BETRAY Christ with a kiss?

Was Iscariot a REAL believer? Or a fake-believer?..........i don't know.

If he was a REAL believer, then he lost his salvation.

The a/c will be a man, in-dwelt and controlled by Satan.
He will oppose Christ, by claiming to BE Christ.
He will (ALMOST) deceive the very ELECT...........which means that the ELECT are looking for the CHRIST,......and the ELECT will (ALMOST) choose the a/c to be the CHRIST.

For Christians, we are looking for the SECOND COMING OF CHRIST.
For the ELECT NATION ISRAEL (the non-Messianic), they are looking for the FIRST COMING OF CHRIST.


one thing we know for sure,..........when we fail to know and believe and obey the WORD OF GOD (BIBLE) , we will get a Disaster of Biblical proportions.


it is wicked to never know Christ and reject Him, BUT,........
it would certainly be HORRIFICALLY WICKED if the a/c knew Christ, and was saved, and then, turned against Him,.............as in Iscariot.

You have good insight here Dennis.
First: Son of perdition=Judas(He is the "father" of people who do the same and talk the same=believers that turn and fall away =again Son(s) if Perdition (GROUP)

Son of Man=Jesus (He is the Father of those who do the same and talk the same)=Son of God, now in His BODY (who are believers) =BODY of Christ (GROUP)


The first group (sons of perdition) also fall into the Anti (against) Christ group (that is logical, because they are in fact against Him ) ( MAN NO 1)

The second group is the body of Christ , with Jesus as the Head (MAN NO 2)

Mat 24:40 Then shall two men be in the field; one is taken, and one is left:Mat 13:38 and the field is the world; and the good seed, these are the sons of the kingdom; and the tares are the sons of the evil one;

Sons of God versus Sons of perdition. Christ versus Antichrist.

Jesus is the Head of the one man (God is the Father)
A man will be the head of the other man.(Satan is the father)

i don't know what to think of that

If you look at the eye of the face on the ocean floor, the ones who see a face into it have clearly left away what's right in front of the eye which does not make it look like an eye anymore so they made a biased selection by their subjectivity.

Furthermore, part of the brains is quick in recognizing faces into something, that's why one person says he or she sees faces in so-called "orbs" on photographs while others don't. If people start explaining things in a spiritual way while they are ignoring how reality works, that's the type of mistake usually (and often) made.

Greets, Divinespark

wow!

Seven.....

I just seen the youtube video. I never seen that before. Pretty amazing.

Thanks so much for posting this. I loved it.

Collegegirl

I'm sorry, but I have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. Sirius A is 2.6 Parsecs away... and if it were ever to cross anywhere near our Solar System, what makes you think it would pass between earth an the Sun? Also, if a star were ever to actually pass within our Solar System, we surely would fry long before we would be able to feel the effects of a Pole Shift. I've heard of theories regarding Pole Shifts, but a Star entering our solar system is definitely not one of them. Also-- if a star as massive as Sirius A did pass between Earth and the Sun, they'd probably end up colliding-- and the gravity would pull earth closer to the sun because of the immense gravity of Sirius A.

Because the star Sirius A doesn't move anywhere even close to the speed of light... without doing any mathematical calculations I can confidently say that it would take millions of years for even the nearest star (assuming it was moving toward our solar system in the first place) to reach us.

When it speaks of stars falling to the sky in the Bible it was far before people knew what stars were. Of course scripture is God spoken, but the words we use to interpret God must be words that we know. Perhaps, as even today we call them, shooting stars will begin to fall (meteorites) and it will appear as though the stars are being wrapped up. However, a star coming into our Solar System and shifting our poles to create the illusion of the stars being wrapped up is impossible... because we'd all be fried to a crisp long before the planet's poles were to shift, if they were to shift at all.

Maybe I read your post incorrectly-- if so, please clarify what exactly you were talking about.

Cheers and God Bless-
jp

It is a shame that you read the Word of the Lord God with unclean eyes.
If you need an adrenalin rush, there are simpler ways than to seek the destruction of Gods Creation.
Why are ye not praying for the salvation thereof?
Read the Word again, now with eyes of Love, and throw away the hard parts.
Then the seal is broken.

^ I agree that there is no reason to specifically focus our views solely on the End Times, however, simply discussing such things is no different than discussing any other aspect of the Word of God. I've seen, in having just searched a bit on this forum (I'm a newbie), that there are a lot of threads concerning the End of the World. It's very interesting, how everything is going to happen in the future, and there is nothing unclean about looking for information in the Bible regarding such things since the Lord put it all there for a reason. However, anybody would be at a loss if all they did was worry about the End Times when there is so much more in the Word of God for us to study.

God Bless-
jp

very much of the bible is PROPHECY (prediction of future events)..........about 28%

much of prophecy has already been fulfilled, such as, the FIRST ADVENT of christ

on the road to Emmaus, Christ rebuked the 2 disciples, because they had not studied the PROPHETS (PROPHECY)

much of the bible foretells the ENDTIMES

You're right, the Bible does foretell the End Times. However, in spite of its significance, there seems to be much more speculation than solid biblical truth.

Which is very much what I was asking in my first posts of someone to posted something regarding the stars and Pole Shifts. I was wondering if there was anything Biblical or scientific to support what he was saying. It is important, yes, to consider and study the prophecies of the End Times for they are an important aspect of the world our Lord has put us in, however, I feel that it is in vain to try to speculate about the End Times and draw distant connections in our world today to the End Times. If we seek worldly things to answer Godly things, we seek death to answer Life.

If someone knows what was being talked about in regards to the Pole Shifts and Sirius A and B coming between Earth and the Sun, please read my post a few posts up and the post I was talking about-- I would very much like to know what he was trying to say.

God Bless
jp

There are a lot of very speculative things being spread which need to be taken with a grain of sea-salt.

^^ Should I PM THE SEVEN THUNDERS about his post... I would very much like a reply... I guess I don't want to encroach upon this forum's etiquette with a PM, if such action is usually looked down upon... I just hope for an explanation.

Honestly, we don't know what Jesus or God actually looks like.
The paintings we have of Jesus could be so far from the truth and that's where we get our idea of Jesus from(his looks).