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Guardian Of Centurian
I am so riddled with frustration at the moment and have found myself asking What happens if there is a person who truly understands the truth? and iif he/she had the ability what would they do if they didnt want it? Is it possable to reliquish and andover to another this ability? if so How?
C
Such a person would know the answer to this question if he/she truly had the knowledge of truth.


If one does not know the answer, then one should not worry too much, because that one is obviously not the one who has all truth.
senteami3
God will only give us enough access to the truth to where we can stand it. He knows our limits.
And yes, at times, if feels as if our spirit is not BIG/WIDE enough to contain the newly received revelations. God always enlarge our spirit as a result. It's just another part of the process.

I had this happen to me this week... sleep.gif
Servi Motava
Hello.

Im totally new to this forum, and this is my first post.


Or rather, i really do not understand the thread question. What do you mean by "truth"? Truth is in general, except few exeptions, subjective, that is, there is no "truth" to "Truth".

Or did i miss something ?
Bananna
QUOTE(Guardian Of Centurian @ Apr 11 2007, 10:10 AM) [snapback]109039[/snapback]

I am so riddled with frustration at the moment and have found myself asking What happens if there is a person who truly understands the truth? and iif he/she had the ability what would they do if they didnt want it? Is it possable to reliquish and andover to another this ability? if so How?

The gifts and the calling are irrivocable.

At first I was frightened by some of my abilities. Partly because my congregation taught they could only be from the devil and only be inaccurate. I certainly don't want to see things, preceive things and follow God as the first in the family to obey every time, but I always end up on the radical side of things and then later on the whole family thinks its the only truth God gives.

Most of my fear in this comes from.... 'thus says the LORD' I would hate to ever hear a word and not speak it. I would hate to ever hear my own flesh speak and say it as the LORD's words. Where I've been raised these abilities are not taught and no one has discipled me. From about the age of 30 I have had to learn and at the age of 40 God called. If one lacks wisdom of how to apply the gifts they are given they should ask of God and he will give an answer. Likely it will not be the answer expected.

I have been blessed with varification on many things. Little miracles to confirm what I heard from God so that I would not misspeak or mistake an action to take. There is only real peace in taking the path that God created for you from the foundation of the world. Whom God calls, he also equips.

I may not be able to speak boldly to evangelize like my sister does, but I could speak to anyone on healing herbs without fear showing hidden things in the scriptures that people have not seen.

blessings
bananna
Josh
QUOTE(Bananna @ Jul 6 2007, 12:05 PM) [snapback]116868[/snapback]

QUOTE(Guardian Of Centurian @ Apr 11 2007, 10:10 AM) [snapback]109039[/snapback]

I am so riddled with frustration at the moment and have found myself asking What happens if there is a person who truly understands the truth? and iif he/she had the ability what would they do if they didnt want it? Is it possable to reliquish and andover to another this ability? if so How?

The gifts and the calling are irrivocable.

At first I was frightened by some of my abilities. Partly because my congregation taught they could only be from the devil and only be inaccurate. I certainly don't want to see things, preceive things and follow God as the first in the family to obey every time, but I always end up on the radical side of things and then later on the whole family thinks its the only truth God gives.

Most of my fear in this comes from.... 'thus says the LORD' I would hate to ever hear a word and not speak it. I would hate to ever hear my own flesh speak and say it as the LORD's words. Where I've been raised these abilities are not taught and no one has discipled me. From about the age of 30 I have had to learn and at the age of 40 God called. If one lacks wisdom of how to apply the gifts they are given they should ask of God and he will give an answer. Likely it will not be the answer expected.

I have been blessed with varification on many things. Little miracles to confirm what I heard from God so that I would not misspeak or mistake an action to take. There is only real peace in taking the path that God created for you from the foundation of the world. Whom God calls, he also equips.

I may not be able to speak boldly to evangelize like my sister does, but I could speak to anyone on healing herbs without fear showing hidden things in the scriptures that people have not seen.

blessings
bananna




hey bananna, maybe you can tell God to send some of that "verication" stuff my way, i never get that. but i know it's what i need.




C
QUOTE(Josh @ Jul 7 2007, 04:23 AM) [snapback]116907[/snapback]

QUOTE(Bananna @ Jul 6 2007, 12:05 PM) [snapback]116868[/snapback]

QUOTE(Guardian Of Centurian @ Apr 11 2007, 10:10 AM) [snapback]109039[/snapback]

I am so riddled with frustration at the moment and have found myself asking What happens if there is a person who truly understands the truth? and iif he/she had the ability what would they do if they didnt want it? Is it possable to reliquish and andover to another this ability? if so How?

The gifts and the calling are irrivocable.

At first I was frightened by some of my abilities. Partly because my congregation taught they could only be from the devil and only be inaccurate. I certainly don't want to see things, preceive things and follow God as the first in the family to obey every time, but I always end up on the radical side of things and then later on the whole family thinks its the only truth God gives.

Most of my fear in this comes from.... 'thus says the LORD' I would hate to ever hear a word and not speak it. I would hate to ever hear my own flesh speak and say it as the LORD's words. Where I've been raised these abilities are not taught and no one has discipled me. From about the age of 30 I have had to learn and at the age of 40 God called. If one lacks wisdom of how to apply the gifts they are given they should ask of God and he will give an answer. Likely it will not be the answer expected.

I have been blessed with varification on many things. Little miracles to confirm what I heard from God so that I would not misspeak or mistake an action to take. There is only real peace in taking the path that God created for you from the foundation of the world. Whom God calls, he also equips.

I may not be able to speak boldly to evangelize like my sister does, but I could speak to anyone on healing herbs without fear showing hidden things in the scriptures that people have not seen.

blessings
bananna




hey bananna, maybe you can tell God to send some of that "verication" stuff my way, i never get that. but i know it's what i need.


Here is some "verification stuff" smile.gif
love C

Verification Stuff Click Here
Bananna
C,
Okay I don't have time for a study on cleansing right now. You want a short comment on why that bible study was relevant to learning to access and verify a gift and a calling?

Josh.

Lets get to the nitty gritty. Faith is one of my gifts I've been equipped with. You may not have this level of giftedness or you may have more, but you will have what you need. I've got the faith to walk around critically sick for nine years believing God will heal me and refusing surgery and drugs and going on to have six healthy children unassisted by medical care at home during severe graves disease. One of my worst deterents to learning from God about His healing was that I listened to Allopathic doctors that seemed to know what they were talking about. God every time put the blinders on them. I'm serious, I think these were excellent knowledge about doctors but if I made a suggestion to them they went the oposite way and made me worse. So I had to exercise faith and I had to exercise my mind and I had to start trusting supernaturally given knowledge that God gave me for my self, my family and my community.

Some things you will need to learn to discern, have to do with the tone in wich God speaks to you. You may make mistakes in the little things he starts bringing your way. What is your age? In God's kingdom age of the mind is important. Often leaders in training get impatient and get proud and angry at authority. Be very careful till 40 years of age not to rebell against those God sets over you. They may not be as gifted, but learninging the authority chain is very important in God's kingdom.

The sense of having a 'Check" in your spirit when you have to stop and search out what the scriptures truly say, because brother we often have our scriptures transposed and out of context, because there are a lot of people out there following the wrong spirit and they latch onto scriptures and twist them out of their intended meaning for their own gain. This means you have to be reading that scripture through once a year to make your brain familiar with the truth so you will recognize a lie whether out of your heart or someone elses heart.

You need to study the gifts and the callings till God gives you a sense of direction for your learning. Then you can study the characters with those gifts from Genesis to Revelation.

What equipment do you think God has given you. What do you think He is calling you to? What do you think is your gift of the Spirit?

You can pm me if it is too personal.

Blessings
bananna
Humble Bob
I like this smile.gif
peacemaker
Good read!

Bananna
Thank you
Damo
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This means you have to be reading that scripture through once a year to make your brain familiar with the truth so you will recognize a lie whether out of your heart or someone elses heart.

You need to study the gifts and the callings till God gives you a sense of direction for your learning. Then you can study the characters with those gifts from Genesis to Revelation.

What equipment do you think God has given you. What do you think He is calling you to? What do you think is your gift of the Spirit?



Blessings
bananna


New member and first time poster here. This being the first thread I read (besides the member info stuff), I just wanted to express how glad I was to see such an articulate and insightful response. So thanks smile.gif
bogoy
QUOTE(Guardian Of Centurian @ Apr 11 2007, 11:10 PM) [snapback]109039[/snapback]

I am so riddled with frustration at the moment and have found myself asking What happens if there is a person who truly understands the truth? and iif he/she had the ability what would they do if they didnt want it? Is it possable to reliquish and andover to another this ability? if so How?


a person once told me that knowing too much is sometimes a curse and a gift. and this person showed me his knowledge so i kinda see things a lil bit as he sees things
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