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johnpaul

the article about 40 x 144 makes 5760 years and
being related to the year 2000.

to fully understand this you need to know and why it is this number(576)
and how it fits to the whole.

while for a reason i can not fully give you everything,it would also be to lenghtly
in a single article i will provide you with the basics on it.

you will all be familiar with the star of bethlehem,this star with it,s tail
is made up of the star of david(the six pointed star) and the pentagram
they are joined together(for those who wish to know how can contact me at
debroek@home.nl) and if you draw a circle around each they will create the visica piscis

and the circumference of this shape is 576 degrees the shape is also a eight(8)
there are two of these and another hidden one.

two of these 8,s make 576x2=1152 (and with the 3rd 1728 but
these 12 times 144(the apostles) and Christ makes 13 or 1872

this is also the reason why there were 3 wiseman each with the knowledge of
one of these eights which each has its own key.

de broek
togarma
I think it is simple.


God created the world in six literal days - He rested on the seventh day - and made the day holy.
That is important knowledge for later.


4000 years after creation - Jesus comes
4033 years after creation - Jesus leaves

Jesus told a story: The good samarithan (Jesus) pays 2 days wages for the sick man (The World) and promissed the inn-keeper that he would leave (to Heaven) and come back for him after two days (2000 years)

We know that 1 day in Heaven is 1000 years on earth - so, when should he come back? - 2000 years after he left, in the year 33 - meaning he will come back in 2033.

BUT: GOD made the time shorter - because we where sick, and he cares for us - and know that we wonīt last 2033 years - so he will come back before 2033.


Well - The Biblecode tells us that: "Jesus came in 2010" - which is shorter than 2033, and I beleive the Biblecode is true, because it is in the book - Im a Bible Fundamentalist, I beleive in everything that comes out of the Bible, and live my life by the word.

The Biblecode also tells us more detailed about the "vanish" - It confirms that the "vanish" is an Atomic holocoast - George W. Bush have just announced that the World is on the edge of exactly that - and with the locked conflict in Iran, Asia & Russia - I can confirm that the Russian Bear has been resurected - I live in Norway - There has not been a Russian military aircraft flying next to our borders since the cold war - but now we see them all the time.


Most of us live in cities - as for myself, I live in Oslo, Norway - the capital, and when the nuclear missiles hits us, I will vanish - as a reaction to the nuclear action - The flesh on my body will just dissapear because of the nuclear reaction.

And what I think wil happend is that I just see the light - and feel a sting (i die momentant) and then I am risen up again to see Jesus in the sky.


I think that if you take the death of Jesus (year 4000) and go back exactly 4000 years, I beleive that is the beginning - that is the creation of Adam - the first day in Eden - exactly 4000 years later - Jesus dies - and exactly 2000 years later - he will be back - and if we use that timeline - weīre currently living in the year 1974 instead of 2007 - counting from his resurrection (leave for 2 days).

Unfortunatly - the world counted the year from his birth - and God had to (because of our calendar) shorten the times (because the church where waiting for him to arrive in the year 2000 according to our calendar)

Can you imagen what the world will be like in 2033 if God had not made the times shorter?


We count the day after the birth of the samarittan, when we should count the days from when he left. It is a timeline, we changed our way of counting the days, and so God made everything happend before it should, because of our actions - and we should praise the LORD for that.

I donīt want to live in this evil world - but I want to live and see everything that is going to happend - as I have allready seen in my heart.

Keep studying Gods word - keep digging deep, and may God bless you when you puzzle the pieces together.

Miki
Interesting togarma..
Adonaicole
togarma,

Do not be afraid, God will never leave you or forsake you. It may be that you will meet him on that day or it may be that he will hide you and protect you. When the atomic bombs fell on Japan, there were Christians living at ground zero that were unharmed even though everyone and everything around them was devastated. I believe that this is a holy sign that God is well-able to protect those he chooses to protect. May God have mercy on us all.
Adonaicole
Here is a link to the story. Here is an absolute sign from God: The Hiroshima 8 Survivors

bonomike
QUOTE(Adonaicole @ Sep 7 2007, 12:00 PM) [snapback]121191[/snapback]


Adonaicole,

Do you believe that is an "absolute sign from God?" In other words, does the mere fact that eight people miraculously survived a localized nuclear holocaust mean that God did it?

How can we prove, from the scriptures, that the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob did or didn't do this?

Thanks.

In Christ,

Mike

Adonaicole
Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego were saved from the midst of the fiery furnace. Could there be any more fiery furnace than a nuclear explosion? Is there any other God that can save in this way?

Daniel 3

22Therefore because the king's commandment was urgent, and the furnace exceeding hot, the flames of the fire slew those men that took up Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego.

23And these three men, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, fell down bound into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.

24Then Nebuchadnezzar the king was astonished, and rose up in haste, and spake, and said unto his counsellors, Did not we cast three men bound into the midst of the fire? They answered and said unto the king, True, O king.

25He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.

26Then Nebuchadnezzar came near to the mouth of the burning fiery furnace, and spake, and said, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, ye servants of the most high God, come forth, and come hither. Then Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, came forth of the midst of the fire.

27And the princes, governors, and captains, and the king's counsellors, being gathered together, saw these men, upon whose bodies the fire had no power, nor was an hair of their head singed, neither were their coats changed, nor the smell of fire had passed on them.

28Then Nebuchadnezzar spake, and said, Blessed be the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, who hath sent his angel, and delivered his servants that trusted in him, and have changed the king's word, and yielded their bodies, that they might not serve nor worship any god, except their own God
togarma
QUOTE(Adonaicole @ Sep 7 2007, 09:11 AM) [snapback]121173[/snapback]

togarma,

Do not be afraid, God will never leave you or forsake you. It may be that you will meet him on that day or it may be that he will hide you and protect you. When the atomic bombs fell on Japan, there were Christians living at ground zero that were unharmed even though everyone and everything around them was devastated. I believe that this is a holy sign that God is well-able to protect those he chooses to protect. May God have mercy on us all.


Well, I do not fear Bombs - I got a warning signal about a month ago, it was not a physical signal, but it was a strong feeling on the inside - I have booked a flight to Israel, leaving on October 15th with my wife - I fear for all those people who donīt know Jesus - and I fear God.

I know God is well able to protect his children - and I pray for his mercyfull protection when we walk in the valley of the shaddow of death - I think of Daniel in the Lions den - and nebucanezzars barbecue with Jesus - not even a straw of hair crumbeled on their heads - what an awesome and mercyfull God we have.
If 8 christians survived a bombing in Japan, ground zero - I beleive that, and it does not go against the Bible - it only strenghten my beleif in him - he is capable, and doable to anything we ask him in Jesus name.

Me and my wife are outside almost every night on a mountain, looking down on Oslo - praying for more time - and look at the sky (God does wonders in the sky every time - it is just wonderfull - not many stars left though)

The Biblecode have told that the Atomic bomb will hit "Bullseye America" - and you should be ready to leave at any moment. (If you are in Judea at that time, run to the mountains - Matthew 24)

I do not fear death - I just donīt want to waste my time in a grave during the world war and world suffering. - I am a fat man - It would be an oppertunity to loose a few pounds wink.gif - It is unbiblical to die when you have been warned ahead - like all the people who died during the flood, and the crushing of Sodoma and Gomorra. It has happend before, it will happend again - the world will be destroyed - and God will see his people through the destruction smile.gif

Letīs get on the right side with God, and repent from our sins - we need a whole heart with him, not just a part smile.gif

It will be the worst time the "WORLD" has ever seen - Well, I belong to God - so i Guess it wont be suffering to me if God is willing - he will feed me in front of my enemies - and boys and girls, brothers and sisters - This is still the case: Fear and Know GOD - Repent from your sins - Beleive in Jesus Christ - follow the ten commandments, and let the ten commandments be your guide.

It is very easy when you start, but it gets a bit hard sometimes if you focus on problems or subjects that is amusement - stay away from amusement, it makes you not think - study the word, and throw that TV out the door (news is OK to look for signs, but remember - it is fake news, horroble news and doctrine and propaganda 24/7 - turn it off as often as you can).

Always check everything you see with what the Bible tells you - use the Internet and search for answer (search and ye shall find) - Trust no man, no woman - only God - and Gods word, and everything that comes out of that word. - Look for signs - understand the signs - if you donīt understand crop-signs: there are people who have studied them, and have made videos and reports of their findings and investigations - let me point to this video on Youtube - people who have studied can explain

God bless us all
Adonaicole
By the way, I wanted to mention that Oslo is a very beautiful city and the people very friendly.
I especially liked Frogner Park (spelling?) the one with all the sculptures.
JohnK

Before this 'posting' goes much further, everyone might want to check some facts first. (Remember test the spirits and the 'facts'.)


"Fr. Johannes Siemes, SJ, a professor of philosophy at Sophia University in Tokyo, was one of a number of German Jesuits working in Japan during World War II. In 1945, American B-29s were stepping up bombing missions against Japanese cities. Kobe, Osaka, Nagoya, and particularly Tokyo were being hard hit by nighttime incendiary raids and daytime high explosive raids. The mounting danger had prompted the Japanese government to evacuate many of Tokyo's residents; Siemes and his students had left the city for the relative safety of the Jesuit novitiate, where the Jesuits' future superior general, Fr. Pedro Arrupe, SJ, was rector. The location was just outside Hiroshima."
http://www.companysj.com/v231/august6.htm

Hiroshima: Our First Nuclear War


http://www.americancatholic.org/Features/W...feature0183.asp


How Fables Become "Facts"

http://www.sxws.com/charis/mary25.htm
dennis mann
the web-page about the 8 survivors of the nuclear bomb..........says, LIVE THE FATIMA MESSAGE:

quote from that web-page:
How does one live the Fatima message?
1. People must first CONVERT: turn away from sin and go back to God.
This entails the usual demands of the Christian life like prayer,
reading Scripture, obedience to the commandments, concern for others.
Beyond it there are special requests from the Blessed Virgin:
2. DAILY OFFERING. "Offer up each day whatever God requests of
you... for the conversion of sinners and reparation for sin."
3. REPARATION. "Pray, fast, and make sacrifices for your sins and for
the sins of all sinners and unbelievers."
4. EUCHARIST. Frequent prayer, adoration and reparation before Jesus
in the Blessed Sacrament.
5. FIVE FIRST SATURDAYS. "Confess, offer Mass, receive Holy
Communion on the First Saturday of five consecutive months... with the
intention of making reparation to me..."
6. ROSARY. "Each day recite the prayers of the rosary, five decades
at least -- meditating on the mysteries -- to make reparation for
sin."
7. CONSECRATION. Consecrate yourself to the Sacred heart of Jesus
and the Immaculate Heart of Mary. This means entrusting yourself to
their care and protection. Wear the brown scapular as a sign.
un-quote




OUR LADY OF FATIMA is a demonic hoax,..........that apparition (a demon masquerading as Mary) said to make sacrifices for sins, and REPARATIONS TO ME..........which contradicts the Bible.

The Bible says that the only sacrifice for sin necessary is the DEATH OF JESUS CHRIST........no more sacrifice is needed............no reparations to Mary is needed.
Anything added to the DEATH OF CHRIST is heretical..........it indicates that the DEATH OF CHRIST isd not effective and adequate, which contracist the Bible..........read Hebrews in the NT.

The RCC religion is full of heresies.
togarma
QUOTE(Adonaicole @ Sep 7 2007, 04:08 PM) [snapback]121217[/snapback]

By the way, I wanted to mention that Oslo is a very beautiful city and the people very friendly.
I especially liked Frogner Park (spelling?) the one with all the sculptures.


Well, thank you Adonaicole - Frogner Park is right spelled, that is the big green park on the right side of Vigelands Park, the area with all the sculptures.

I like that park too smile.gif

IPB Image
Oslo By Night
togarma
QUOTE(dennis mann @ Sep 7 2007, 09:22 PM) [snapback]121227[/snapback]

OUR LADY OF FATIMA is a demonic hoax,..........that apparition (a demon masquerading as Mary) said to make sacrifices for sins, and REPARATIONS TO ME..........which contradicts the Bible.

The Bible says that the only sacrifice for sin necessary is the DEATH OF JESUS CHRIST........no more sacrifice is needed............no reparations to Mary is needed.
Anything added to the DEATH OF CHRIST is heretical..........it indicates that the DEATH OF CHRIST isd not effective and adequate, which contracist the Bible..........read Hebrews in the NT.

The RCC religion is full of heresies.


Indeed - that is why we must know the Bible - and always preach and teach the Bible. Dennis Mann - good job pointing to those important evidence for me, Jesus never went to his mother to pray, he turned to God every time.

We also must only pray to God - asking him things in Jesus name - as Jesus told us to do - and the Holy Spirit is our helper down here to cleaify things when we search the scriptures, and when we use the power of the spirit.

I also beleive it is very important to receive holy communion - Jesus told the Diciples to do that as often as they could - and I beleive there is hidden power if we actually just do it the way Jesus told - as often as we can, to remember him Alive.

johnpaul
hi there, you are right about 4000 years, but if you knew the strukture, or i should say the star of bethlehem, then you would know that the outer shape is that of a eight 8 and two halfs of each 4 or 40 or 400 or 4000 makes 8 or 8000 and the circumference is 576 in degrees.
we are talking about the same thing or time span. be it that the counts you use are years as you understand them. yes it is good to believe, but do you not sometimes wander, who and what made up your believe?
is it not largely based on your understanding of what is said or writen in the bible?
what is wrong with that you migh ask? to believe in truth, that is the difference, if we believe our ideas of it, or the truth deep within it. to believe is a very mistaken concept in biblical terms, to believe the story written in the bible, then you believe the idea of your understanding of the verhicles which are the very words you read, to which you connected your understanding of them, like the word ark, Noah, water, fire and all other,this leads you to look outwardly, as you seek its truth,even to the point that they look on mountain ararat to find the ark of noah. each word has a meaning connected to it which is build through your understanding and experience( in this world. but this world like those words are verhcles/instruments to give you a idea of the world you can not see. untill you realise, you have build an idea of it, hopefully enough to understand you need to let them all go, so the concepts have helped you, the build up through the tree of good and bad, given you some insight into this world,and realise they are merely your ideas of the truth, and not the truth itself, just as the word glass is not the glass itself\, or the silver bird used to help explain the concept of airplain ,that the silver bird is not an airplain but a verhicle to help explain with what is known to build an idea so when the truth is said you might be able to recognize.and recognize you do, at first merely a feeling but through experience, you add words,at first your feeling is not very spesific,and you might call it intuition, then it becomes knowledge, but only when completed, Wisdom. yes only when the whole is known, only when God is known will you know that in the fire of wisdom burns the flame of love, and only through "ME" will you come to Him.to believe in god, or to believe in a personalised idea of god
there are many golden calfs.

moshiya de broek
www.unite-us.com
QUOTE(johnpaul @ Apr 7 2007, 09:59 AM) [snapback]108484[/snapback]

the article about 40 x 144 makes 5760 years and
being related to the year 2000.

to fully understand this you need to know and why it is this number(576)
and how it fits to the whole.

while for a reason i can not fully give you everything,it would also be to lenghtly
in a single article i will provide you with the basics on it.

you will all be familiar with the star of bethlehem,this star with it,s tail
is made up of the star of david(the six pointed star) and the pentagram
they are joined together(for those who wish to know how can contact me at
debroek@home.nl) and if you draw a circle around each they will create the visica piscis

and the circumference of this shape is 576 degrees the shape is also a eight(8)
there are two of these and another hidden one.

two of these 8,s make 576x2=1152 (and with the 3rd 1728 but
these 12 times 144(the apostles) and Christ makes 13 or 1872

this is also the reason why there were 3 wiseman each with the knowledge of
one of these eights which each has its own key.

de broek

voice
QUOTE(johnpaul @ Apr 7 2007, 05:59 AM) [snapback]108484[/snapback]

the article about 40 x 144 makes 5760 years and
being related to the year 2000.

to fully understand this you need to know and why it is this number(576)
and how it fits to the whole.

while for a reason i can not fully give you everything,it would also be to lenghtly
in a single article i will provide you with the basics on it.
you will all be familiar with the star of bethlehem,this star with it,s tail
is made up of the star of david(the six pointed star) and the pentagram
they are joined together(for those who wish to know how can contact me at
debroek@home.nl) and if you draw a circle around each they will create the visica piscis

and the circumference of this shape is 576 degrees the shape is also a eight(8)
there are two of these and another hidden one.




two of these 8,s make 576x2=1152 (and with the 3rd 1728 but
these 12 times 144(the apostles) and Christ makes 13 or 1872

this is also the reason why there were 3 wiseman each with the knowledge of
one of these eights which each has its own key.

de broek


does it say that there were specifically 3 three wisemen? or does it say:

Matthew 2:1-12 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)




Matthew 2
1Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,

2Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.

3When Herod the king had heard these things, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him.

4And when he had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the people together, he demanded of them where Christ should be born.

5And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet,

6And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Juda, art not the least among the princes of Juda: for out of thee shall come a Governor, that shall rule my people Israel.

7Then Herod, when he had privily called the wise men, enquired of them diligently what time the star appeared.

8And he sent them to Bethlehem, and said, Go and search diligently for the young child; and when ye have found him, bring me word again, that I may come and worship him also.

9When they had heard the king, they departed; and, lo, the star, which they saw in the east, went before them, till it came and stood over where the young child was.

10When they saw the star, they rejoiced with exceeding great joy.

11And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense and myrrh.

12And being warned of God in a dream that they should not return to Herod, they departed into their own country another way.


Please let me know if it specifically says 3 , otherwise it could have been 5, 10, or 15 'magi'.




















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NIGHTMARE
QUOTE (togarma @ Sep 7 2007, 09:11 AM) *
I think it is simple.


God created the world in six literal days - He rested on the seventh day - and made the day holy.
That is important knowledge for later.


4000 years after creation - Jesus comes
4033 years after creation - Jesus leaves

Jesus told a story: The good samarithan (Jesus) pays 2 days wages for the sick man (The World) and promissed the inn-keeper that he would leave (to Heaven) and come back for him after two days (2000 years)

We know that 1 day in Heaven is 1000 years on earth - so, when should he come back? - 2000 years after he left, in the year 33 - meaning he will come back in 2033.

BUT: GOD made the time shorter - because we where sick, and he cares for us - and know that we wonīt last 2033 years - so he will come back before 2033.


Well - The Biblecode tells us that: "Jesus came in 2010" - which is shorter than 2033, and I beleive the Biblecode is true, because it is in the book - Im a Bible Fundamentalist, I beleive in everything that comes out of the Bible, and live my life by the word.

The Biblecode also tells us more detailed about the "vanish" - It confirms that the "vanish" is an Atomic holocoast - George W. Bush have just announced that the World is on the edge of exactly that - and with the locked conflict in Iran, Asia & Russia - I can confirm that the Russian Bear has been resurected - I live in Norway - There has not been a Russian military aircraft flying next to our borders since the cold war - but now we see them all the time.


Most of us live in cities - as for myself, I live in Oslo, Norway - the capital, and when the nuclear missiles hits us, I will vanish - as a reaction to the nuclear action - The flesh on my body will just dissapear because of the nuclear reaction.

And what I think wil happend is that I just see the light - and feel a sting (i die momentant) and then I am risen up again to see Jesus in the sky.


I think that if you take the death of Jesus (year 4000) and go back exactly 4000 years, I beleive that is the beginning - that is the creation of Adam - the first day in Eden - exactly 4000 years later - Jesus dies - and exactly 2000 years later - he will be back - and if we use that timeline - weīre currently living in the year 1974 instead of 2007 - counting from his resurrection (leave for 2 days).

Unfortunatly - the world counted the year from his birth - and God had to (because of our calendar) shorten the times (because the church where waiting for him to arrive in the year 2000 according to our calendar)

Can you imagen what the world will be like in 2033 if God had not made the times shorter?


We count the day after the birth of the samarittan, when we should count the days from when he left. It is a timeline, we changed our way of counting the days, and so God made everything happend before it should, because of our actions - and we should praise the LORD for that.

I donīt want to live in this evil world - but I want to live and see everything that is going to happend - as I have allready seen in my heart.

Keep studying Gods word - keep digging deep, and may God bless you when you puzzle the pieces together.



God did not create the world in six days
Genesis 1:2 "And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep

In the Hebrew translation of the word, "was", as used in this verse "...the earth was without form,..."; in the original text it reads "became without form...". This same mistranslation of the word "became", and turning it into the word "was" is also present in Genesis 2:7. It should read there; "..and man became a living soul."







happy2Bfree
QUOTE
does it say that there were specifically 3 three wisemen? or does it say:


I was about to mention the same thing....but you beat me to it. smile.gif

Shalom Voice. 1dsz5e4.gif
voice
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/ka/v1/n2/wise-men


http://www.christiananswers.net/dictionary/wisemen.html


http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/n...ted-in-six-days







1 Tim 4:1-3 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
1 Tim 6:20-21 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen. 2 Tim 2:16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
2 Tim 4:3-4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
1 Pet 4:7 But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer.
2 Pet 2:1-2 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
Jude 1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.






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