TEACHERS PET

In II Timothy 2:15, we are told NOT TO RELY on the ‘traditions of men” whose 'PET' THEORIES ARE NOW PROVING FALSE and are NOT LINING UP with scripture and that “we are to study and show ourselves approved.”

Daniels 69th week has come and gone, ENDING AT the “cutting off” of Yeshua in 32 CE, and like the week before, the 68th, and the one after, DANIEL’S “70th” IT WAS agriculturally based.

Falling into its own 49 year Sabbatical cycle that ended on 14 Tishri 3819 or 58 CE, with the ‘year of Jubilee’ beginning the next day on Yom Kippur or the Day of Atonement.

You can’t change God’s cycles, you let the weeks fall as they may and YOU CAN’T MOVE ONE OR EVEN A HALF ONE into a future cycle.

Even if the ‘70th” week was to be a ‘futuristic week’ it was the 24th week in that 49 week Sabbatical cycle, and would have had to become the final or a 49th week that began on September 18, 2001.

So it was an impossibility from the get-go, the prophecy gurus, failed to go back to the beginning, the Torah and Leviticus 25:8-11, to find the answer to the end!

How do we know this, if the ‘2300 day vision’ ends on October 9, 2008, THAT DAY WILL BECOME, the first day of the ‘Year of Jubilee’ with Yeshua in His Millennial reign! By counting back by 50’s, all previous ‘Jubilee cycles’ started in the ‘Gregorian’ years 08’ or 58’ throughout the previous centuries.

Their counting had to include the “leap months” to keep the years and their seasons in their proper place so the planting and harvest seasons would stay in cycle; the 70th week (32-38CE) was the 24th week in the Sabbatical cycle and REMAINED IN CYCLE as an agriculturally based week!

God has kept track of the cycles;

The last physical Jubilee year was 58 CE, because the temple was destroyed in 70 CE, but remember in Genesis 6:3, God said that His spirit would not always strive with man and his days would be 120 years or sha'neh, a cycle of time, 6000 years of 120 Jubilee cycles of 50 years.

ANOTHER PET

Matthew 24:15 When you therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, (Palestinian Statehood flag) spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (Jerusalem) (whoso reads, let him understand)

THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND, the President’s vision for a Roadmap to Peace, IS the abomination THAT HAS CAUSED devastation, since June 24, 2002, and will be the ‘Abomination of Desolation’ when Palestinian Statehood is declared and the “inheritance” given Israel is REJECTED! (Psalm 105: 6-9)

Make no doubt about it, the Abomination of Desolation will break an already existing covenant (Genesis 12:7, Psalm 105:9-11), and even if it were possible, IT DOESN’T HAVE anything to do with Daniel’s 70th week. (Daniel 9:27)

Giving Him the glory, an Ezekiel 33:6 watching on REPENT the Kingdom of God is at hand make your election SURE

Who moved the orbit of the Earth around the Sun and disrupted the 360 day year? It now takes 365.25 rotations of the earth to complete a solar orbit. Who changed it and why?

Godsloft on Mar 27 2007, at 2:27 AM' in post # 107006 asked,

"Who moved the orbit of the Earth around the Sun and disrupted the 360 day year? It now takes 365.25 rotations of the earth to complete a solar orbit. Who changed it and why?"

Godsloft hello,

God does not use the ‘pagan’ Gregorian calendar, the Hebraic calendar, normally is a 12 month calendar of 354 days, with 5, 30 day months, 4, 29 day months, 2 months that either have 29 or 30 days and 1 month Adar is a 29 day month except when it is the 13 month (Adar II) it has 30 days and the year is 384 days.

The years basically run in 19 year cycles, Passover, God’s 1st of 7 festivals, fell on April 20th in 2000, April 8th in 2001, March 28th in 2002, April 17th in 2003, April 6th in 2004, April 24th in 2005 and it continues with these 28 day fluctuations through these 19 year cycles.

Although Adar II’s, with the 13th month added in at various intervals has already been figured into these above dates taken from ‘The Feasts of the Lord’ by Howard/Rosenthal pg. 208 written in 1997.

Aren’t you and I happy that God keeps time and His Feasts, that His ‘Sabbatical cycles’ are agriculturally based, the years average 365.2422 days because there are enough 384 day Hebraic calendar years and ever changing 19 year cycles to make it stay in tune!

“And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.” (Genesis 6:3)

A SABBATICAL CYCLE

A Sabbatical cycle is seven ‘weeks of seven’ totaling 49 years, the seventh year in each week is a Sabbatical week, in which no planting or sowing was done, (Exodus 23:11) it was a sabbath year of rest for the land. Another additional week was added to the seventh cycle, completing a 50-year Jubilee cycle.

Therefore 120 Jubilee cycles of 50 years equals the 6000 years of the days of man.

The word used in Genesis 6:3 for years is actually shaneh. The literal translation of that word is "a division of time" or "a repeating cycle".

Consequently, at the ‘fall’ it was established and proclaimed in Genesis 6:3, that there would be 6000 years of the days of man.

Therefore, please pay close attention, as God wants His people to know what time it is on His calendar as the countdown has commenced!

6000 YEARS FROM THE ‘FALL AND CALL’ TO ADAM

5993 years from the ‘fall’ of Adam and God’s call to him was recorded in a 1939 article in ‘Destiny’ magazine, click link http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/articles/brit...sh-israel-2.htm

The book of Daniel was ‘still sealed’ and Israel had not yet been declared a nation so at the time of the article, 62 years into the future, 2001, who could even speculate an additional ‘seven years and 10 days’ of the “days of man” would still be required to fulfill the cycle.

Tishri 1, year 8 to Elul 29, 6001 ended on 9-17-2001 completing 856 ‘weeks of seven or 5992 years plus 1 from the ‘fall and call’ to Adam (Genesis 3:9).

I believe September 18, 2001 marked the arrival of the final 857th ‘week of seven’ as marked off from Adams fall. 857 X 7 = 5999 years + 1 = 6000 years (1 BC to 1 CE add 1 year) it runs as follows:

THE LAST ‘WEEK OF SEVEN’ IN THE FINAL 49 YEAR ‘SABBATICAL CYCLE’ OF YEARS

Year 1 September 18, 2001 through September 6, 2002
Year 2 September 7, 2002 through September 26, 2003
Year 3 September 27, 2003 through September 15, 2004
Year 4 September 16, 2004 through October 3, 2005
Year 5 October 4, 2005 through September 22, 2006
Year 6 September 23, 2006 through September 12, 2007
Year 7 September 13, 2007 through September 29, 2008

THE 10 DAYS OF YEAR 8

Year 8 - September 30, 2008 Is the day I believe Yeshua returns with the Year of Jubilee beginning on October 9, 2008 on the Day of Atonement as the Millennium begins.

An understanding of the last ‘week of seven’, or seven-year Sabbatical week, is essential in grasping the urgency of the times we are living.

Where the confusion comes from and why questions are asked is because we are in the year 2007 and people think the calendars are wrong or the Bible isn’t true, if God’s word says ‘4000’ years to Yeshua and 2000 years to his return?

DANIEL’S 70th WEEK WAS A LIE FROM THE BEGINNING, the enemy knew the ‘time, times and dividing time of God’s land would be and has been the preeminent ‘controversy’ of the last days. The Abomination of Desolation and this 70th week are the heart and soul of the ‘prophetic gurus’ since the 70’s.

It is a BIG PART of the ‘strong delusion” of trusting on the “traditions of man”.

The 2300 day countdown is 80% completed, with the “at an instant, sudden destruction” of this country IMMINIENT, isn’t it ironic the word that they have used wrongly so long, like a ‘snare’ will trap them!

May God have mercy,
Giving Him the glory, Gavrial

Gav, very interesting too, is that our calendar is 2007, and the timeline has been altered how many times by man? Yet today, in the Jewish Calendar, we can see today is, 8 Nisan 5767 (known in our calendar as 27 March 07).

The Jewish calendar is a little off, but it correlates closest to the Biblical timeline. Notice that the year is 5767, which is close to 6000 years...which could translate to the 6th day or 60th week.

GOD's WORD tells us that 1000 years, is as a day to GOD.

2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Now, only GOD knows the true timeline from which HE will send JESUS again. AMEN!

onetiggerroo on Mar 27 2007, at 2:01 PM in post #107049 said,

"Now, only GOD knows the true timeline from which HE will send JESUS again. AMEN!"

Not quite Tig, the evil one still holds sway over the earth in a sense until Yeshua returns, however he has limitations, but he knows the Bible and the calendar.

He has to keep his 'Conspirators of Psalm 2' deluded into believing that they can "remove the chords of God and bands of His 'anointed' son Yeshua from off themselves and WIN the 'Battle of Armegeddon'.

The calendar is perfect, it has taken years for him to get everything in line, his next step is to take the US out of the way, then get his man into Jerusalem to assemble the nations for the 'big battle' that he loses.

He already knows he will lose and is laughing inside at his pawns as they head to his already designated resting place, the 'Lake of Fire'.

Much love, Gavrial

Gav, How would the evil one know the calendar of GOD? Only GOD knows the time. According to scripture:

Mat 24:36 ¶ But of that day and hour knoweth no [man], no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

Greetings Onetigger:

Good point there. This is precisely why I disapprove of date-setting. Not to say that I don't find Gavrial's ideas and suppositions interesting, of which I do. I do, however, have to commend Gavrial's diligence into studying the Word of God. I can only hope that I can be as diligent.

Sincerely yours,

Wendy

QUOTE

"The God of peace will SOON (in Paul's day) crush Satan under YOUR feet" (those living in those days!)
(Romans 16:20).

". . . the accuser of the brethren, who accused them before our God day and night HAS BEEN CAST DOWN. And they overcame him BY THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB and by the word of THEIR testimony . . . . the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a SHORT time" (Rev. 12:10b-12).

Revelation begins (1) with "the things which must SHORTLY take place" and ends with "the things which must SHORTLY take place" (22:6). Shortly in THAT day, not ours!

Preterist

onetiggerroo on Mar 27 2007, at 5:53 PM in post #107069 asked,

Gav, How would the evil one know the calendar of GOD? Only GOD knows the time. According to scripture:

Mat 24:36 ¶ But of that day and hour knoweth no [man], no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

Tig, my brother,

Simplicity is the key, we are told in 2 Corinthians 11:3;

But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

Let’s take a "simple" look at what is said about this "knoweth no man" quotation, so often misinterpreted. WE MUST NOT OVERLOOK THE PRECEDING STATEMENT or we will miss the simplicity of Yeshua’s words! Then WE CAN EASILY KNOW just what "day" is being spoken of.

Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, BUT my words shall not pass away.
36: BUT OF THAT DAY AND HOUR knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

Mark 13:31: Heaven and earth shall pass away: BUT my words shall not pass away.
32: But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

The simplicity is this; Gods word WILL NOT PASS AWAY heaven and earth WILL, and is a day sometime NEAR THE END OR AT THE END of the millennial reign of Yeshua.

Now we ask where "that day" is found.

II Peter 3:10: But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Revelation 21:1; And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

Again, simply put, the "day and hour knoweth no man" is THE day GOD destroys HEAVEN AND EARTH and the new one comes!

Where all of the supposition comes from surrounding the return of Yeshua and this passage shows us that we are under the ‘strong deluding’ spell of the ‘traditions of men’. God gave SIMPLE INSTRUCTIONS, perhaps we would be better off to heed them. Much love, Gavrial

You didn't understand my question. Let me see if I can clarify.
A day in any calender is from sun up to sun up the following rotation of the earth. if a calender is 354 days then the orbit of the earth around the sun must be 354 sunups to sunups. otherwise the seasons of the next year will be thrown off. Until where down the line the winter will be in the dead of summer on the calender. Do you understand what I am saying? right now the earth rotates 365.25 times per solar cycle. For any calender to be correct right now and the seasons to line up each and every year it must be based on 365.25 rotations per solar cycle. I was under the understanding that in the time of Christ the earth had a perfect 360 day solar cycle and the calender was based on the lunar cycle that corresponds with that. The only other thing that can change that equation is that the earths solar cycle is the same but the earth has sped up it's rotation.

What's the answer Gavrial?

Godsloft on Mar 29 2007, at 1:12 AM' in post # 107292 said,

You didn't understand my question. Let me see if I can clarify.

A day in any calender is from sun up to sun up the following rotation of the earth. if a calender is 354 days then the orbit of the earth around the sun must be 354 sunups to sunups. otherwise the seasons of the next year will be thrown off. Until where down the line the winter will be in the dead of summer on the calender. Do you understand what I am saying? right now the earth rotates 365.25 times per solar cycle. For any calender to be correct right now and the seasons to line up each and every year it must be based on 365.25 rotations per solar cycle. I was under the understanding that in the time of Christ the earth had a perfect 360 day solar cycle and the calender was based on the lunar cycle that corresponds with that. The only other thing that can change that equation is that the earths solar cycle is the same but the earth has sped up it's rotation.

What's the answer Gavrial?

Hello Godsloft,

The ‘seven’ spring and fall feasts are Gods ‘feasts’, the Hebraic calendar, is God’s calendar, and it is perfect. There are “leap months’” added to keep it in sync, and each 19 year cycle has a 28 day fluctuation because it is ‘lunar based’, these fluctuations’ and leap months keep it agriculturally accurate.

There are 120 X 50 Jubilee cycles totaling 6000 years of man that began on Tishri 10, the year 8. That’s why the 2300 day vision, began on June 24, 2002 and not June 18 so it could end on Tishri 10 6008, or October 9, 2008 the Day of Atonement.

What can we say, it’s His calendar and it will end perfectly, and the 'year of Jubilee' will begin!

The ‘vision’ is true, run with it! Much love, Gavrial

Thanks Gavrial

Yes the jewish calendar is very similair, if for instance trying to calculate the abomination of desolation . Its only a few days short a year on average.