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itchy
I think the mark of the Beast is Good and I'm looking foreward to it's institution.

Why? It promises to eleminate 90% of all crimes and 90% of all wars. The only crimes left are crimes of passion.

Think of the benefits. Reduced Crime, drug dealers and black market industry over, an end to political corruption!!!

What is my reasoning...

You have to take the mark in order to buy or to sell. My solution... don't buy and don't sell. Work for free! Here is the Idea. If you want a new big screen TV you walk down the assembly line and build two as you go; following them along. You get to take home one and give the other to a retired person or a person who has a "dirty job". You want a new car? Build two... take one home and donate the other. Need groceries? Take in the produce from your garden or flowerbox in your appartment and donate it to the grocery store or food production plant, and take home your groceries for free! Of course the farmers get a sizeable donation. Then what once a year you take your country's portion say 10% of the GDP and donate it to Israel. Israel then redistributes it to the impoverished countries. It's a national TITHE!!! We try to pull the world out of poverty.

[color=#3333FF]AN END TO POLITICAL CORRUPTION! WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO BRIBE THEM WITH???
NO MORE TAXES!!![/color]

So maybe the mark of the beast is good if it forces people to stop worshipping money, after all Adam and Eve did not get paid to take care of their stewardship.

[color=#FF0000]OF COURSE THE MARK OF THE BEAST IS VERY, VERY, VERY BAD TO TAKE!!![/color]

Sorry to say the world is too lazy for such an event.
George
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[quote name='itchy' date='Mar 23 2007, 03:57 PM' post='106535']
I think the mark of the Beast is Good and I'm looking foreward to it's institution.

Why? It promises to eleminate 90% of all crimes and 90% of all wars. The only crimes left are crimes of passion.

Think of the benefits. Reduced Crime, drug dealers and black market industry over, an end to political corruption!!!

What is my reasoning...

You have to take the mark in order to buy or to sell. My solution... don't buy and don't sell. Work for free! Here is the Idea. If you want a new big screen TV you walk down the assembly line and build two as you go; following them along. You get to take home one and give the other to a retired person or a person who has a "dirty job". You want a new car? Build two... take one home and donate the other. Need groceries? Take in the produce from your garden or flowerbox in your appartment and donate it to the grocery store or food production plant, and take home your groceries for free! Of course the farmers get a sizeable donation. Then what once a year you take your country's portion say 10% of the GDP and donate it to Israel. Israel then redistributes it to the impoverished countries. It's a national TITHE!!! We try to pull the world out of poverty.

[color=#3333FF]AN END TO POLITICAL CORRUPTION! WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO BRIBE THEM WITH???
NO MORE TAXES!!![/color]

So maybe the mark of the beast is good if it forces people to stop worshipping money, after all Adam and Eve did not get paid to take care of their stewardship.

[color=#FF0000]OF COURSE THE MARK OF THE BEAST IS VERY, VERY, VERY BAD TO TAKE!!![/color]

Sorry to say the world is too lazy for such an event.
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You already have the mark and the number. You can't buy and sell now with out them. Crime and drugs and murder and black market this and that will never stop until the Lord returns and puts an end to all of mans creations. When mans world is totaly removed and the kingdom comes then and only then will there be peace on earth.
onetiggerroo
[quote name='signet' date='Mar 23 2007, 09:20 PM' post='106554']
oh, child of God ...do you know what you are saying?
[/quote]Don't think Itchy does know... 1dsz5f1.gif
itchy
I know exactly what I am saying.

DELUSION! At least a possibility. Man made kingdom.

Christ said "the poor will always be with you..." That means POOR.

It is an image of the Kingdom to come. Is the kingdom age moneyless.... it would be nice to throw off those shackles.

But the point is that for inspiration of those who are left here after the rapture, they will have to make a Choice! Take the Mark and buy/ sell, or Don't. It is possible to create a similitude of society without money. And in an AntiChrist controlled environment, what I have said is essentially the only way.

You would have to work for free, sell all you have, and not necissarily barter, but just give as God has always intended.

As for the Kindgom age after tribulation... I think it would be beautiful to take care of our stewardship without money, and fulfill prophecy by pulling the world out of poverty by giving tithes to Israel once A Year AS Revelations CLEARLY STATES!!!! PRAISE GOD!!!

I HOPE YOU DID NOT MISUNDERSTAND MY FIRST POST...

AND PLEASE IF YOU READ THIS DURING THE TRIBULATION!!!! DO NOT TAKE THE MARK OF THE BEAST! PLEASE!!!!! MAKE IT THROUGH THE SEVEN YEARS!!! TO LOSE YOUR LIFE IS TO GAIN,,, BUT TO LIVE TO THE GLORIOUS APPEARING!!! I ENVY THAT IN A SENSE, BUT I WILL BE RIDING ON A WHITE HORSE WITH A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE!!!

IT IS VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY BAD TO TAKE THE MARK OF THE BEAST IN YOUR HAND OR FOREHEAD! DO NOT DO IT!!! TRY THE MONYLESS WAY FIRST! YOU CAN DO IT.

THUS IF THE MARK OF THE BEAST PREPARES YOUR HEART TO SERVE GOD WITHOUT WORSHIPPING MONEY, AND TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR STEWARDSHIP BEFORE GOD FOR FREE AS ADAM DID. MAY GOD BLESS YOU.

Ok... now to find a way to resurrect this after the rapture. smile.gif
George
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I know exactly what I am saying.

DELUSION! At least a possibility. Man made kingdom.

Christ said "the poor will always be with you..." That means POOR.

It is an image of the Kingdom to come. Is the kingdom age moneyless.... it would be nice to throw off those shackles.

But the point is that for inspiration of those who are left here after the rapture, they will have to make a Choice! Take the Mark and buy/ sell, or Don't. It is possible to create a similitude of society without money. And in an AntiChrist controlled environment, what I have said is essentially the only way.

You would have to work for free, sell all you have, and not necissarily barter, but just give as God has always intended.

As for the Kindgom age after tribulation... I think it would be beautiful to take care of our stewardship without money, and fulfill prophecy by pulling the world out of poverty by giving tithes to Israel once A Year AS Revelations CLEARLY STATES!!!! PRAISE GOD!!!

I HOPE YOU DID NOT MISUNDERSTAND MY FIRST POST...

AND PLEASE IF YOU READ THIS DURING THE TRIBULATION!!!! DO NOT TAKE THE MARK OF THE BEAST! PLEASE!!!!! MAKE IT THROUGH THE SEVEN YEARS!!! TO LOSE YOUR LIFE IS TO GAIN,,, BUT TO LIVE TO THE GLORIOUS APPEARING!!! I ENVY THAT IN A SENSE, BUT I WILL BE RIDING ON A WHITE HORSE WITH A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE!!!

IT IS VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY BAD TO TAKE THE MARK OF THE BEAST IN YOUR HAND OR FOREHEAD! DO NOT DO IT!!! TRY THE MONYLESS WAY FIRST! YOU CAN DO IT.

THUS IF THE MARK OF THE BEAST PREPARES YOUR HEART TO SERVE GOD WITHOUT WORSHIPPING MONEY, AND TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR STEWARDSHIP BEFORE GOD FOR FREE AS ADAM DID. MAY GOD BLESS YOU.

Ok... now to find a way to resurrect this after the rapture. smile.gif
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I guess you don't know what you are talking about. There is no rapture. The antichrists have been here for thousands of years and so have the raising of the beast of revelation to where the whole world is set up on the same evil principals. There will be no money in the kingdom and not one of mans manufactured items will survive. Likewise not one person who has it in their hand or heart when judgement comes will survive.
C
[quote name='itchy' date='Mar 24 2007, 05:51 AM' post='106564']
I know exactly what I am saying.

DELUSION! At least a possibility. Man made kingdom.

Christ said "the poor will always be with you..." That means POOR.

It is an image of the Kingdom to come. Is the kingdom age moneyless.... it would be nice to throw off those shackles.

But the point is that for inspiration of those who are left here after the rapture, they will have to make a Choice! Take the Mark and buy/ sell, or Don't. It is possible to create a similitude of society without money. And in an AntiChrist controlled environment, what I have said is essentially the only way.

You would have to work for free, sell all you have, and not necissarily barter, but just give as God has always intended.

As for the Kindgom age after tribulation... I think it would be beautiful to take care of our stewardship without money, and fulfill prophecy by pulling the world out of poverty by giving tithes to Israel once A Year AS Revelations CLEARLY STATES!!!! PRAISE GOD!!!

I HOPE YOU DID NOT MISUNDERSTAND MY FIRST POST...

AND PLEASE IF YOU READ THIS DURING THE TRIBULATION!!!! DO NOT TAKE THE MARK OF THE BEAST! PLEASE!!!!! MAKE IT THROUGH THE SEVEN YEARS!!! TO LOSE YOUR LIFE IS TO GAIN,,, BUT TO LIVE TO THE GLORIOUS APPEARING!!! I ENVY THAT IN A SENSE, BUT I WILL BE RIDING ON A WHITE HORSE WITH A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE!!!

IT IS VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY BAD TO TAKE THE MARK OF THE BEAST IN YOUR HAND OR FOREHEAD! DO NOT DO IT!!! TRY THE MONYLESS WAY FIRST! YOU CAN DO IT.

THUS IF THE MARK OF THE BEAST PREPARES YOUR HEART TO SERVE GOD WITHOUT WORSHIPPING MONEY, AND TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR STEWARDSHIP BEFORE GOD FOR FREE AS ADAM DID. MAY GOD BLESS YOU.

Ok... now to find a way to resurrect this after the rapture. smile.gif
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you are scratching where it does not itch.

Do you know how many Scriptural errors you have just made?

I dread the day when the church is going to be faced with the tribulation and realise: Oh my, we have forgotten about the Word..!!! Its been the Word all along...but now its too late!!!

My friend, you are talking about a rapture that you have only heard of from men, and they do not even know the Scriptures and they have passed on their words to you and you have believed them. Not good.
Repent (meaning: change your mind) and open the Bible and see what God has to teach you Himself. Ask Him, not man. Do not even believe me, go ask the Lord.

Man I tell you, the church has a serious problem. Its Wordless.
C

George
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You are scratching where it does not itch.

Do you know how many Scriptural errors you have just made?

I dread the day when the church is going to be faced with the tribulation and realise: Oh my, we have forgotten about the Word..!!! Its been the Word all along...but now its too late!!!

My friend, you are talking about a rapture that you have only heard of from men, and they do not even know the Scriptures and they have passed on their words to you and you have believed them. Not good.
Repent (meaning: change your mind) and open the Bible and see what God has to teach you Himself. Ask Him, not man. Do not even believe me, go ask the Lord.

Man I tell you, the church has a serious problem. Its Wordless.
C
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Excelent post C 1dsz5h3.gif
itchy
Love you all.

First to say the topic line was an eyeopener. Bait if you will. I know some do not like that but to catch the eyes of some visitors.

Ok as for me having the mark of the beast... I am not so sure of that. I under where you are coming from Brothers and Sisters.

Why do I say this... from my understanding some Minnonites and Amish do not have a social security number, nor have taken an oath.

So "small and great" have yet to be marked. Is a SSN similar to the mark of the beast. Very Possibly!

Now As for the rapture I again understand what you are saying, yet I do not intend to get into a debate on that, because it is a neverending debate, and ends up hurting feelings, dividing the fellowship and becoming a ministry of distraction.

If you wish to address the flaws of the rapture, I understand, yet I suggest we do so on a different posting, and without arguement, attempting to avoid hurt feelings and always in the love of Christ.

The topic of the rapture is a very heated one, and generally degenerates into almost a knock down drag out fight.

YBIC
George
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If you wish to address the flaws of the rapture, I understand, yet I suggest we do so on a different posting, and without arguement, attempting to avoid hurt feelings and always in the love of Christ.

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Are you talking about this Love of Christ?

Matthew 16
23 But He turned and said to Peter, "Get behind Me, Satan! You are an offense to Me, for you are not mindful of the things of God, but the things of men."

or this Love of Christ?

Matthew 23
33 Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of hell?

or maybe this Love of Christ?

Luke 13
5 I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish."

I can do that, "Let's talk".
itchy
This is in response to Pamela's qustion in "Chicken Little" under the What do you say discussion forum.

[quote] 'Pamela' date'Mar 25 2007, 09:37 AM' post='106741'

...
I've noticed your posts are kinda all over the place, you must be searching...For example, you started a thread claiming to want to take the mark of the beast...then turn around and proclaim to be saved...

Just trying to understand where your coming from....Please don't take offense to my line of questioning...I am not trying to offend you....

[/quote]

Greetings Pamela,

First,
Being a "newbie" I had to deal with the first 10 post review. I thought that they were under review and that they would automatically post via review. They didn't. Then I surpassed the 10 posts, and they still didn't show. A couple were introductions, and they didn't show so I reintroduced myself. I also had some difficulty posting and replying when I first registered and my account had been activated.

[b]Now for a strong disclaimer!!! I never said that I wanted to take the mark of the beast. I thought I had made that clear in the post itself and addressed it again in the second post. Clearly I have been misunderstood, first due to the "shock title" of "the mark of the beast is good" and then the leadup to my response to the mark where I spoke sort of in sarcasm. Yet the way I truly feel about the mark is not to take it... WORK FOR FREE![/b]

There is a societal system that can take place without the mark and that is what I was encouraging. A moneyless system. I am looking foreward to the implementation of the mark in that It WILL polarize this world, in that It will make people question how important buying an selling is. And it also means that there are approximately 3 years left until the Lord Our God establishes His kindom.

To put it in perspective, I was taking the darkest of Christian understanding and turning it into light...

Apparently I did not make a good presentation. Perhaps I should ask for it to be deleated.

But as you can see the view count is in the 130's, I understand some don't like "baiting"... but I am looking foreward to it in some regards, AND WILL HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. It is very sad that almost everyone will take it and be lost forever; but there are positive sides to it!!! Or I should say positive sides for society in not taking the Mark.

YBIC,
itchy
mmddll
people are already taking it...it's a spritual mark that started when Christ was raised up to God's throne...yet is a mystery (Mystery Babylon) until Jesus Christ comes and reveals the (corporate)man of lawlessness and destroys him (corporately).by the breath of His mouth and the brightness of His coming...revelation of the beast and the mark



Look at how much power a "corporation" has over an individual, because of the corporate power of many (legion) against one. It has always been this way...in every aspect whether it be religious, financial, or military



Look at corporate media (television, music, books, art), for example, and the power they have over people's minds (forehead) and actions(right hand)

mmddll
Think of the corporate beast/whore this way: Paul says the "mystery of iniquity" is already at work...but that the "man of lawlessness" won't be revealed until there comes a falling away first.



This "man of lawlessness" opposes and exalts himself above everything that is called God, showing himself that he is God...actually placing himself in the position of Jesus Christ, when Christ was exalted above everything and all power was given to Him. This "corporate whore" has tried to take His place through the "media"...what does "media" mean? It means "mediator" and who is the only mediator between God and man? Jesus Christ is. But Hollywood will not accept that. ABC and FOX news will not accept that. MTV will not accept that...most publishing companies will not accept that...most musicians and artists will not accept that...Walt Disney will not accept it...the ACLU be damned if Christ is it's head...and they all "wondered" after the beast and said "who can make war with it?" because the beast has all the money and riches you could dream about...

AGAPEaNg
[quote name='mmddll' date='Mar 25 2007, 03:54 PM' post='106765']
Think of the corporate beast/whore this way: Paul says the "mystery of iniquity" is already at work...but that the "man of lawlessness" won't be revealed until there comes a falling away first.

This "man of lawlessness" opposes and exalts himself above everything that is called God, showing himself that he is God...actually placing himself in the position of Jesus Christ, when Christ was exalted above everything and all power was given to Him. This "corporate whore" has tried to take His place through the "media"...what does "media" mean? It means "mediator" and who is the only mediator between God and man? Jesus Christ is.
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I think you are exactly right but you're generalization of Hollywood is a bit off. I've never realized this before but after the church service I went to today (http://www.southcrestuniversityministry.org/dustyspeaks.htm) I think I am able to understand this a bit better. In service we talked about what exactly the gospel means for us and the speaker told us the difference between three world views: the religious view, the non-religious view, and the gospel view. This is what I see now: the man of lawlessness is like the religious way of thinking ("I am accepted because of what I do") and that thinking excludes Jesus Christ because he thinks that he can save himself and he does not need the work of the Son of God to save him. A lot of us were like that at one time, until the great falling away!!! Then we realized that we are indeed sinful and can never win our salvation and *we never could!!!!* We then realize that we can *only* be saved because of what Jesus Christ did for us! The gospel way of thinking is "“I am more sinful than I could ever dream. I am more loved/accepted than I could ever hope.” Our old nature, the man of lawlessness who thought he could save himself without Jesus Christ is revealed after our falling away from the faith! When we realize how sinful we really are, we realize that we need salvation outside of ourselves and the world, we need God and He has revealed himself in Jesus Christ. Maybe that is why Jews have a hard time being saved, because they follow the Law and reject Jesus Christ. We were born into sin and we will never be good enough to justify ourselves before God and therefore we need Jesus Christ.
mmddll
You make a very good point...but I think the falling away has a more dire consequence, because Paul was speaking of it in terms of the Day of the Lord...it's not going to be a pretty sight for those who fall away...for the Day of the Lord is Great, who can stand? Only those who have endured to the end. The antichrist is described as those "who were with us, but have gone out from us"



1 John chapter 2 talks about not loving "the world" and then goes right into the description of the antichrist:




[b]Do Not Love the World [/b]
15Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16For everything in the world—the cravings of sinful man, the lust of his eyes and the boasting of what he has and does—comes not from the Father but from the world. 17The world and its desires pass away, but the man who does the will of God lives forever.


[b]Warning Against Antichrists [/b]
18Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. [b]This is how we know it is the last hour. 19They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us[/b]. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.





This is how we know it is the last hour, just as Paul described...the falling away. This is a prophetic of the future "last hour".

Pamela
[quote name='itchy' date='Mar 25 2007, 01:50 PM' post='106757']
This is in response to Pamela's qustion in "Chicken Little" under the What do you say discussion forum.

[quote] 'Pamela' date'Mar 25 2007, 09:37 AM' post='106741'

...
I've noticed your posts are kinda all over the place, you must be searching...For example, you started a thread claiming to want to take the mark of the beast...then turn around and proclaim to be saved...

Just trying to understand where your coming from....Please don't take offense to my line of questioning...I am not trying to offend you....

[/quote]

Greetings Pamela,

First,
Being a "newbie" I had to deal with the first 10 post review. I thought that they were under review and that they would automatically post via review. They didn't. Then I surpassed the 10 posts, and they still didn't show. A couple were introductions, and they didn't show so I reintroduced myself. I also had some difficulty posting and replying when I first registered and my account had been activated.

[b]Now for a strong disclaimer!!! I never said that I wanted to take the mark of the beast. I thought I had made that clear in the post itself and addressed it again in the second post. Clearly I have been misunderstood, first due to the "shock title" of "the mark of the beast is good" and then the leadup to my response to the mark where I spoke sort of in sarcasm. Yet the way I truly feel about the mark is not to take it... WORK FOR FREE![/b]

There is a societal system that can take place without the mark and that is what I was encouraging. A moneyless system. I am looking foreward to the implementation of the mark in that It WILL polarize this world, in that It will make people question how important buying an selling is. And it also means that there are approximately 3 years left until the Lord Our God establishes His kindom.

To put it in perspective, I was taking the darkest of Christian understanding and turning it into light...

Apparently I did not make a good presentation. Perhaps I should ask for it to be deleated.

But as you can see the view count is in the 130's, I understand some don't like "baiting"... but I am looking foreward to it in some regards, AND WILL HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. It is very sad that almost everyone will take it and be lost forever; but there are positive sides to it!!! Or I should say positive sides for society in not taking the Mark.

YBIC,
itchy
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"Replied in the CHicken Little thread." happy.gif

Ya, I don't think most like baiting...Don't hook the worm....Just be open and bring to the table food that can feed the babes..... blush.gif
itchy
Well I was informed by a friend that I need to inform you that I like to play Devil's Advocate.

I like to state things in a way that I hope will get you to think. To give you a different perspective to broaden your understanding of the word of God and to make you search the scriptures for the truth. For example in a small group ministry I started a discussion of "Why I like the Antichrist." Of course jaws drop.

So I explained why. "So many of you hate him soooo much that you want to be the first person to shoot the guy." "I on the other hand realize that if I shoot him I will be creating the very thing I hate. So by default I like him more than you in preserving his life."

Similarly with this post. With such a mark Good things are bound to happen to some people, hearts will change, and many will perish while others will lose their heads.

YBIC,
Itchy


LemuelReyes
[quote name='C' date='Mar 24 2007, 05:26 AM' post='106593']
[quote name='itchy' date='Mar 24 2007, 05:51 AM' post='106564']
I know exactly what I am saying.

DELUSION! At least a possibility. Man made kingdom.

Christ said "the poor will always be with you..." That means POOR.

It is an image of the Kingdom to come. Is the kingdom age moneyless.... it would be nice to throw off those shackles.

But the point is that for inspiration of those who are left here after the rapture, they will have to make a Choice! Take the Mark and buy/ sell, or Don't. It is possible to create a similitude of society without money. And in an AntiChrist controlled environment, what I have said is essentially the only way.

You would have to work for free, sell all you have, and not necissarily barter, but just give as God has always intended.

As for the Kindgom age after tribulation... I think it would be beautiful to take care of our stewardship without money, and fulfill prophecy by pulling the world out of poverty by giving tithes to Israel once A Year AS Revelations CLEARLY STATES!!!! PRAISE GOD!!!

I HOPE YOU DID NOT MISUNDERSTAND MY FIRST POST...

AND PLEASE IF YOU READ THIS DURING THE TRIBULATION!!!! DO NOT TAKE THE MARK OF THE BEAST! PLEASE!!!!! MAKE IT THROUGH THE SEVEN YEARS!!! TO LOSE YOUR LIFE IS TO GAIN,,, BUT TO LIVE TO THE GLORIOUS APPEARING!!! I ENVY THAT IN A SENSE, BUT I WILL BE RIDING ON A WHITE HORSE WITH A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE!!!

IT IS VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY BAD TO TAKE THE MARK OF THE BEAST IN YOUR HAND OR FOREHEAD! DO NOT DO IT!!! TRY THE MONYLESS WAY FIRST! YOU CAN DO IT.

THUS IF THE MARK OF THE BEAST PREPARES YOUR HEART TO SERVE GOD WITHOUT WORSHIPPING MONEY, AND TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR STEWARDSHIP BEFORE GOD FOR FREE AS ADAM DID. MAY GOD BLESS YOU.

Ok... now to find a way to resurrect this after the rapture. smile.gif
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you are scratching where it does not itch.

Do you know how many Scriptural errors you have just made?

I dread the day when the church is going to be faced with the tribulation and realise: Oh my, we have forgotten about the Word..!!! Its been the Word all along...but now its too late!!!

My friend, you are talking about a rapture that you have only heard of from men, and they do not even know the Scriptures and they have passed on their words to you and you have believed them. Not good.
Repent (meaning: change your mind) and open the Bible and see what God has to teach you Himself. Ask Him, not man. Do not even believe me, go ask the Lord.

Man I tell you, the church has a serious problem. Its Wordless.
C
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please elaborate
goodshepard
Dear, dear itchy. Sounds like to me that maybe you are undecided about the mark of the beast. I really want you to know that I have been praying for you. You have stated the mark will be a good thing, but for selfless reasons. The mark will bring nothing but enternal pain and damnation to those who receive it, and as a Christian, you are supposed to be trying to save people from the mark, not advocate for the beast.
(KJV)Matt.10:30 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.
31 Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows.
32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

Maybe you don't understand, but by my reackoning you are denying the LORD JESUS CHRIST. You are advocating the mark, again I state for pure selfless reasons. Who is going to have time for a TV, when we will be trying to save others and ourselves during the trib?

Lord Jesus, I ask that you bind the spirit of deception on itchy, and that You open the spiritual eyes and ears, so that the truth of Your Living Words may pierce the heart.Thank You Lord for Your sacrafice on that cross, for all of mankind. And thank You Lord for that spiritual awaken of itchy.
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LemuelReyes
[quote name='goodshepard' date='Mar 26 2007, 04:50 AM' post='106888']
Dear, dear itchy. Sounds like to me that maybe you are undecided about the mark of the beast. I really want you to know that I have been praying for you. You have stated the mark will be a good thing, but for selfless reasons. The mark will bring nothing but enternal pain and damnation to those who receive it, and as a Christian, you are supposed to be trying to save people from the mark, not advocate for the beast.
(KJV)Matt.10:30 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.
31 Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows.
32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

Maybe you don't understand, but by my reackoning you are denying the LORD JESUS CHRIST. You are advocating the mark, again I state for pure selfless reasons. Who is going to have time for a TV, when we will be trying to save others and ourselves during the trib?

Lord Jesus, I ask that you bind the spirit of deception on itchy, and that You open the spiritual eyes and ears, so that the truth of Your Living Words may pierce the heart.Thank You Lord for Your sacrafice on that cross, for all of mankind. And thank You Lord for that spiritual awaken of itchy.
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Amen happy.gif
NIGHTMARE
QUOTE (itchy @ Mar 23 2007, 11:51 PM) *
I know exactly what I am saying.

DELUSION! At least a possibility. Man made kingdom.

Christ said "the poor will always be with you..." That means POOR.

It is an image of the Kingdom to come. Is the kingdom age moneyless.... it would be nice to throw off those shackles.

But the point is that for inspiration of those who are left here after the rapture, they will have to make a Choice! Take the Mark and buy/ sell, or Don't. It is possible to create a similitude of society without money. And in an AntiChrist controlled environment, what I have said is essentially the only way.

You would have to work for free, sell all you have, and not necissarily barter, but just give as God has always intended.

As for the Kindgom age after tribulation... I think it would be beautiful to take care of our stewardship without money, and fulfill prophecy by pulling the world out of poverty by giving tithes to Israel once A Year AS Revelations CLEARLY STATES!!!! PRAISE GOD!!!

I HOPE YOU DID NOT MISUNDERSTAND MY FIRST POST...

AND PLEASE IF YOU READ THIS DURING THE TRIBULATION!!!! DO NOT TAKE THE MARK OF THE BEAST! PLEASE!!!!! MAKE IT THROUGH THE SEVEN YEARS!!! TO LOSE YOUR LIFE IS TO GAIN,,, BUT TO LIVE TO THE GLORIOUS APPEARING!!! I ENVY THAT IN A SENSE, BUT I WILL BE RIDING ON A WHITE HORSE WITH A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE!!!

IT IS VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY BAD TO TAKE THE MARK OF THE BEAST IN YOUR HAND OR FOREHEAD! DO NOT DO IT!!! TRY THE MONYLESS WAY FIRST! YOU CAN DO IT.

THUS IF THE MARK OF THE BEAST PREPARES YOUR HEART TO SERVE GOD WITHOUT WORSHIPPING MONEY, AND TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR STEWARDSHIP BEFORE GOD FOR FREE AS ADAM DID. MAY GOD BLESS YOU.

Ok... now to find a way to resurrect this after the rapture. smile.gif


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Nightmare..... laugh.gif biggrin.gif laugh.gif I always go to your posts because they always put a smile on my face. You just have to find a new name because this one doesn't fit you at all.
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