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Miki
If you want to go through the trouble of following this chain of events you can catch it under prophecy topic "look up your redemption draweth nigh" http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=2145I talk about my green house as representing God's protected work and what he has been showing me in relation to it. (specifically Israel but not exclusively)

Last year I discovered a hornet nest in the dogwood across the yard from the green house. About the time they discovered a terrorist nest in the UK. We were able to use the spray to get rid of it. The other nest found was in the two birch trees located just a side walk away from the green house. We decided at that time to leave it because it was so high. We were afraid of missing and disturbing it and making it more of a problem.

This week we prunned the two birch trees. blush.gif There's a big mess in my back yard. I guess l just have to wonder if we're about to prune Iran and Syria. the reason we decided not to take them all the way down is because they would make such a huge mess. Prunning was the best option..So with Iran? We'll see. Plus...now l have more light for the green house... 1dsz5h2.gif
Miki
QUOTE(Miki @ Mar 29 2007, 11:24 AM) [snapback]107323[/snapback]

I still see these two dreams together...the threat .... the bomb... But looking at my dream and the out come l have to say, though nasty, the outcome is positive. I'm looking at the hostage situation here.

You can't ignore the enemy...he won't go away. That's what l was trying to do in that wagon. Iran won't go away. We can't just go home now..(troops) They'll take our seats on the wagon and won't be as quick to give them back up as we are...

I don't believe this is the Lords timing.


In my personal experiance...even though l had to dance to the enemies tune,
the outcome was positive.

But even in the dancing ... the steps are ordered. AMEN ... But it's not over till it's over...

This could have been a stinging situation...pray for our homeland security...
that their eyes would be opened.

The egg won't drop till God says now!
Miki
And yet at the same time l can't help but see

a trojan here

...A jackel with his queen bee..

A yellow jacket..
a turn coat...

a bald faced liar...And how do you like his suggestion?

An "Easter gift to the Brits." unsure.gif
Miki
An Easter gift...Yes indeed...

I just realized something yesterday during my prayer time....about appearing to dance to the enemies tune.

When they put Jesus on the cross wasn't it the same idea.. It appeared the enemy was winning.... that we were dancing to his tune...but!

Even though it seems at times we are acquiescing to the enemy we do it for the greater good. The enemy may appear to win for a season...but! 1dsz5h2.gif wub.gif
Messiahiscoming
QUOTE(Miki @ Apr 6 2007, 07:21 AM) [snapback]108363[/snapback]
An Easter gift...Yes indeed...

I just realized something yesterday during my prayer time....about appearing to dance to the enemies tune.

When they put Jesus on the cross wasn't it the same idea.. It appeared the enemy was winning.... that we were dancing to his tune...but!

Even though it seems at times we are acquiescing to the enemy we do it for the greater good. The enemy may appear to win for a season...but! 1dsz5h2.gif wub.gif




Yes it reminds me of Nicole Nordeman's song "Why" At the end to the song the Father is speaking to Christ.

It says:



My precious Son, I hear them screaming.
I'm watching the face of the enemy beaming but soon I will clothe you in robes of my own.
Jesus this hurts me more than you know, but this dark hour I must do nothing.
I've heard your unbearable cry — the power in your blood destroys all the lies, soon you'll see past their unmerciful eyes.
Look there below see the child trembling by her father's side. Now I can tell you why, she is why you must die.



Yes Miki I understand that it seems that we are dancing to the enemies tune but soon we will understand why!


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If you haven't heard this song you need to it is a very moving song! Here are all the words....





[color="#555555"]Why?- Nicole Nordeman

We rode into town the other day, just me and my Daddy. He said I’d finally reached that age,
and I could ride next to him on a horse that of course was not quite as wild
We heard a crowd of people shouting and so we stopped to find out why There was that man that my dad said he loved,
but today there was fear in his eyes

So I said Daddy why are they screaming? Why are the faces of some of them beaming?
Why is he dressed in that bright purple robe? I bet that crown hurts him more than he shows Daddy please can’t you do something?
He looks as though he’s going to cry
You said he is stronger than all of those guys-Daddy please tell me why, why does everyone want him to die?

Later that day the sky grew cloudy and daddy said I should go inside
Some how he knew things would get stormy, boy was he right
But I could not keep from wondering if there was something that he had to hide
So after he left I had to find out, I was not afraid of getting lost
So I followed the crowds to a hill where I knew men had been killed
And I heard a voice come from a cross:

And it said : Father why are they screaming. Why are the faces of some of them beaming? Why are they casting their lots for my robes??
This crown of thorn hurts me more than it shows. Father please can’t you do something? I know that you must hear my cry.
I thought I could handle a cross of this size, Father remind me why, why does everyone want me to die. When will I understand why?

My precious Son, I hear them screaming.
I’m watching the face of the enemy beaming but soon I will clothe you in robes of my own.
Jesus this hurts me more than you know, but this dark hour I must do nothing.
I’ve heard your unbearable cry — the power in your blood destroys all the lies, soon you’ll see past their unmerciful eyes.
Look there below see the child trembling by her father’s side. Now I can tell you why, she is why you must die.


Your Friend in Christ,
Val
Messiahiscoming



JohnK
I saw this (forum link below) posted at 1:43pm today, and wanted to comment, but I wanted to be sure,
I was not misreading what I saw. Then I waited... and now tonight I see it again. In the Gulf Daily news
(The Voice of Bahrain, link also below). I (personally) have not seen this carried in the Western newsmedia.

No I am not talking about Excerpt-1, Iran announcing enriching uranium. I am talking about Excerpt-2.
"The government sent out text messages of congratulations for the occasion to millions of mobile phone
users." I could not believe what I was reading, it was just like in my dream... (Posted 22 March 2007, the
start of this thread) getting a text warning message, on my cell phone, except here millions (in Iran) were
getting a text message of congratulations.

I do not know if that fits with your definition of a 'strange coincidence', but at least one other has
called it remarkable. Again I do not know what, if any meaning it may have. I just wanted to point it
out to the members of the forum.

Excerpt-1. (gulf-daily-news)
"NATANZ: Iran announced yesterday that it has begun enriching uranium with 3,000 centrifuges, a dramatic
expansion of a nuclear programme that has drawn UN sanctions and condemnation from the West.
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said at a ceremony at the enrichment facility at Natanz that Iran was now
apable of enriching nuclear fuel "on an industrial scale."

Excerpt-2. (gulf-daily-news)
"Across Iran, school bells rang to mark the "national day of nuclear energy." The government sent out text
messages of congratulations for the occasion to millions of mobile phone users."

http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?s...82&st=1560#

http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/Story.asp?A...p;IssueID=30021



Miki
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JohnK...I agree. It's pretty vivid alright. No guessing here! And can you even believe he would use cell phones! That's totally weird.

The question we have to ask ourselves is...Will George Bush trust handing this situation over to the Democrats? In turn, will the Democrats hand over our Nation to the Muslims? That's what every thinking person wonders... All we have to do is look at Europe...England.. blink.gif Sorry Marcus if you're reading... but England is disappointing right now.

Isn't it true JohnK...God reveals things in his own timing. We can't hurry it up by guessing. It doesn't make us false prophets if we try to step ahead. We are like children.. anxious for Daddy to get home from work...Every time we hear a car coming down the street we run to the window speculating if that's him...No sin in that...God knows one heart from another.

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JohnK
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Isn't it true JohnK...God reveals things in his own timing. We can't hurry it up by guessing. It doesn't make us false prophets if we try to step ahead. We are like children.. anxious for Daddy to get home from work...Every time we hear a car coming down the street we run to the window speculating if that's him...No sin in that...God knows one heart from another.


I think that is very true, he gives us a glimpse of the future, and we can only guess what it is, or means, until he makes it very clear that it was from him, and what it means.

I feel like that right now, I want to know... but I just have to wait for him. In his time! In his will! He will let us know. I think maybe he is saying... I will be there, to guide, to warn, to direct... no matter what, have faith!

Just knowing that really helps, I am not afraid, he is there, he exists! Seek him with all of your heart, mind and soul and he will find you.

Miche
QUOTE(Miki @ Mar 22 2007, 03:23 PM) [snapback]106336[/snapback]

Hi JohnK and everyone...

Ferv...I don't know what you meant by your post?

I will share a dream in this spot...I know it's for me because of what's going on in my life right now...But l've been thinking about it more and more and wondering if perhaps it's more than personal and more than one meaning...by that l mean...Are there TWO things going on here...

I dreamt we sold a large mansion on a hill. We were traveling away from it in a wagon. A short stocky man on the wagon was bothering me. He showed me his hand. In his hand was a cup with a white egg in it. As l looked closer l saw hornets crawling on the egg. He took the cup and held it under the back of my shirt... I knew if l panicked l would be stung and the egg would drop...Some how l managed to turn out from his antics..I was really mad and got right in his face and told him if he ever did that again l was going to punch him right in the nose as hard as l could. I woke up...

I had to go into the garge and get something after l woke up. I reached to grab the item and there was a large spider right where l would put my hand. I killed it with a paper towel.

I came into look at the forum and it was off line so l went to the bible codes. I started to listen to the audio of mene tekel peres. I'd gotten up late and only had a little time. I realized l'd never heard the whole audio.
It finished right to the allotted time...to the exact minute.

I thought "God is perfect" as l got up...And yet l knew l was in for an attack...sigh...I saw myself side stepping the enemy in my mind...dancing from step to step to avoid his antics....Just then l had a vision of foot prints in the hall...each a different color with a number...I knew this to mean my steps where ordered.

Even though l know this was personal for me l wondered as God has used an egg before to represent his unfinished work in Israel....If some of you might remember he has also used hornets in that same string...right around the time they went to war with Lebanon..... I believe this is under "Look up for your redemption draweth nigh....

At first l thought the egg might represent the work l was involved in...but it might be a plan the enemy is about to hatch...Actually it could be both?

Or...maybe alll three as in the context above.... Gods protected work...I'm not totally sure but thought l should post this here... It's a heads up warning....

I just read this today.......... Miki, do a search on bees and the tribe of Dan. It is spiritual, and it isn't from the Lord.
Let me know what you find, and if it helps.
Miki
Hi Miche...I just saw your post...I pray all is well with your soul.

I know the bees were mentioned as a negative. I know the bees knees will bend.

The below is an interesting article. Also JohnK... I have reason to believe this preview isn't over and the trickle affect will continue. This event is a demonstration of an egg yet to hatch...It really is still incubating. But as Shekel has said there is a promise behind the gesture (jester) of the king of Persia...You know...the one that pats you on the back with a knife in his hand...

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Part 4 of 'The Da Vinci Deception':
Eagles and Bees?
by Chuck Missler


For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears. And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

2 Timothy 4:3,4

In our series of articles reviewing some of the background behind Dan Brown's book, The Da Vinci Code, we have explored his deceitful presentation of the so-called "Facts" precedent to the novel itself, the blasphemous heresies regarding Mary Magdalene and the related Merovingian legends, as well as the false representations from the spurious "Gnostic Gospels."

What makes all this disinformation even more disturbing is that there are powerful leaders behind the emergence of the "New Europe" who take these myths seriously.

In this final article, we will explore some of the "codes" that Dan Brown hasn't resorted to (at least not yet!).

One of the curious facets of the Merovingian legends was their apparent obsession with the Tribe of Dan. While this aspect didn't emerge in Dan Brown's novel, it has a high likelihood of coming up in some of the related fanciful speculations that will emerge in the days ahead.

The Tribe of Dan

Although we do not take the myths of the "Ten Lost Tribes" of Israel seriously,1 it is interesting to examine the strange maneuvers of the Tribe of Dan. Their disappointing performance seems to have been anticipated, enigmatically, by Jacob on his deathbed as he prophesied over each of his sons:

Dan shall be a serpent by the way, an adder in the path, that biteth the horse heels, so that his rider shall fall backward.

Genesis 49:17

This identification with a serpent was changed by Ahiezer, the leader of the Tribe of Dan during the Exodus, to an eagle with a serpent in its mouth as their tribal ensign.2

When the conquest of Canaan was completed and the tribes received their land allocations, the Tribe of Dan was given the land west of Benjamin, placing them between Jerusalem and the Philistines. (Even though Dan was one of the largest tribes, it received one of the smallest - and most troublesome - allocations.)

The primary hero of this tribe is, of course, Samson. Although the subject of several colorful episodes, he actually accomplishes little of practical value. His riddle involving bees resulted in an additional identity idiom for his tribe.3

After Samson's death, the tribe was unable to adequately deal with their Philistine adversaries4 and sought an alternative location, which was ultimately found in the North.5

It is interesting that in the "Song of Deborah," commemorating the victory over Sisera, Dan is chided for his distancing himself from the perils of the emerging nation:

Gilead abode beyond Jordan: and why did Dan remain in ships? Asher continued on the sea shore, and abode in his breaches.

Judges 5:17

Dan's descendants apparently became skilled sailors and migrated north and westward to seek their own futures. It is remarkable that Moses had previously anticipated this in his prophetic summary:

And of Dan he said, Dan is a lion's whelp: he shall leap from Bashan.

Deuteronomy 33:22

How could he "leap from Bashan" (the Golan Heights) if he had been officially allocated the area west of Jerusalem? This prophecy by Moses anticipated his relocating to the North!

Editorial Derision?

The Tribe of Dan was the first to fall into idolatry.6 Dan's disconnection from the commonwealth seems to be anticipated by the Holy Spirit in His dealing with the tribe throughout Scripture: the names of his sons are omitted in genealogies;7 Dan is either mentioned last,8 or his name is blotted out altogether!9

His omission from the list of tribes in Revelation 7 is a well-known mystery. Irenaeus explains this omission by suggesting that the Antichrist is to come from the tribe of Dan - a belief which he bases on Jeremiah 8:16 from the Septuagint version ("from Dan shall we hear the noise of his swift horses").10

The Bee Identity

When the tomb of one of the earliest Merovingian kings was unearthed, a treasure including 300 tiny gold bees was discovered. These bees are regarded as a symbol of the Tribe of Dan, linked with Samson's riddle.11

When Napoleon was crowned, he insisted that his coronation cloak included the 300 bees embroidered into it, apparently evidencing his desiring an identity with the Merovingians and the Tribe of Dan. When he married Marie Louise Habsburg, he insisted that these same bees be embroidered into her wedding gown.

The Merovingian legends - and the Magdalene heresy - are taken seriously by many of the royal families in Europe and among some of the powerful activists behind the European Union today.

(It is also interesting that the Mormon Church accepts the Magdalene heresy and that the state symbol of Utah is the bee.)

The Eagle Identity

It is also worth noting that the ensign of Israel's enemies always seems to be that of an eagle: Herod, the Romans, the Germans, the Czars, et al. (It is interesting that even Sparta and Troy may have links with the Tribe of Dan!12)

It disturbs some to note that the symbol of the United States is also, of course, the eagle. The apparent Masonic symbolism on the Great Seal of the United States also disturbs many (look at your dollar bill and consult these images: 1,2,3,4):

The 32 feathers of the right wing are said to represent the 32 degrees of the Freemasonry. The 33 feathers on the left wing include the honorary 33rd degree of the Scottish Rite. The nine tail feathers are said to highlight the Council of Nine when the Illuminati merged with the Freemasons on May 1, 1776.

The ostensible occultic significance seems even more pronounced on the reverse side: the All Seeing Eye (the "Open Eye" of Egypt and the "Mind's Eye" of the Gnostics) and the Latin phrases "Annuit Coeptis" (announcing the birth of) "Novus Ordo Seclorum" (New World Order).

The occult agenda behind world politics should surprise no serious student of Daniel Chapter 10. Satan seems to love symbols.

More Surprises Coming?

Did you know that there appears to be a 151 ft. statue of Mary Magdalene, dressed in a Roman toga, holding the "Holy Grail" as a torch, in one of the most prominent international harbors today? Designed by Auguste Bartholdi, it was privately funded by the French Freemasons and presently adorns New York Harbor.

Are there other occultic surprises around the corner? Will the rise of paganism and apostasy in America bring about a final evil twist as we plunge into the End Times? Will America ultimately join the world in challenging the Abrahamic Covenant by also turning against Israel?

We must not take our Christian heritage for granted. It came at a very high price, paid by those who invested in their posterity. We must take our responsibilities seriously, or we will be disenfranchising our children and grandchildren. (See David Barton's article here.)


I still believe something else was going on while our eyes were focused on this event...
Miki
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Back in Joshua 10, God made the sun and moon stop and stay in one place. This made it bright for the Israelites to win a battle (war).
The city of Ajalon is the place where the sun and moon stood still. Ajalon is now a city for the tribe of Dan.


Dan use to be west of Jerusalem
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but Later, the tribe of Dan lost their land. Then they went to the city of Leshem (another name for this city was Laish). The tribe of Dan fought a war. They won the war and took the city. They changed the name of the city to Dan. They named the city for their ancestor, Dan.
[47] And the coast of the children of Dan went out too little for them: therefore the children of Dan went up to fight against Leshem, and took it, and smote it with the edge of the sword, and possessed it, and dwelt therein, and called Leshem, Dan, after the name of Dan their father.
http://www.workersforjesus.com/josh18-20.htm

Miki
Hornets are very territorial...Get near their nest and watch out.
I'm in a ministry now that is a little out of bounds and have the sense that such an encounter won't be an easy one. Shall we bind the Strong man with the Lords words?

Better be praying if you get in their waters...
Miki
Just for you John...
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On October 31, 1957 the first German atomic research reactor, the “atomic egg”, was put into operation.
Simple
Just for you Miki:

in·cu·bate (nky-bt, ng-)
v. in·cu·bat·ed, in·cu·bat·ing, in·cu·bates
v.tr.
1. To sit on (eggs) to provide heat, so as to promote embryonic development and the hatching of young; brood.
2.
a. To maintain (eggs, organisms, or living tissue) at optimal environmental conditions for growth and development.
b. To maintain (a chemical or biochemical system) under specific conditions in order to promote a particular reaction.
Miki
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particular reaction
or provocation?

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Israel Says Syria Preparing for War--April 23
--> Posted to Breaking_News for April, 2007


Israel says Syria preparing for war

Syria is preparing for full-scale war with the Jewish state and is setting the stage to justify such a conflagration, Israeli officials warned in meetings with visiting US Secretary of Defense Robert Gates last week.
Jerusalem admitted that no tangible evidence exists regarding Syrian intentions to attack Israel, but officials pointed to intelligence pouring in in recent months suggesting that Damascus may try to create a provocation leading to a military confrontation.
Miki
This was a long reread...but l'm glad l did..

I always thought that the entire scenario of these events...(dreams and subsequent posts) were a precursor to something else. Prophetic warnings when aligned with the word give direction, encouragement and reminders of the sovereignty of God.

I have had situation happen in my life of late that shows me this is so again and is pushing us to the brink.

Dancing...

But trust God.... when it appears that everything is being swept away. You are not your ministry. Your ministry goes with you were ever you are. Your home is Christ in you. Your ministry is Christ in you.

NO ONE and l mean NO ONE can take that away.

Linda...the abandon homes....X marks the spot. Isaiah 59...turning...

It doesn't matter what the enemy does...God is in control. Trust God when you're dancing...Your steps are ordered. Just step into them and the plan the enemy contrived will be melted like wax by the flame of your fire. Praise God and look up!! Your redemption draweth nigh!
Anne
The other day, I was watching an earlier 1950's documentary "The House in the Middle"; check it on the net. Maybe you can check it on youtube; it showed how a house well tended, kept and clean can withstand ATOMIC attacks without collapsing.
The key is no trash in an outside, fresh paint, new roof, etc. Just to keep the house in good condition and clean the inside.

I was really dumbfounded but the (atomic) tests proove this to be the truth! huh.gif ohmy.gif
Miki
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Israel frees more than 250 prisoners - www.news.yahoo.com

Israel released more than 250 Palestinian prisoners Friday, aiming to bolster embattled President Mahmoud Abbas in his power struggle with the Islamic militants of Hamas, which took control of Gaza by force last month.

Several thousand chanting, clapping Palestinians greeted the prisoners as their buses rolled into Abbas' headquarters in the West Bank city of Ramallah. Prisoners — almost all from Abbas' Fatah movement — were hoisted onto the shoulders of dancing supporters, before they performed noon prayers in a large, open-sided tent.

"This is the beginning," said Abbas, wearing a black-and-white checkered scarf, a symbol of Palestinian nationalism. "Efforts must continue. Our work must continue until every prisoner returns to the his home."

Hamas belittled the release. "This step has no real value because most of the prisoners are from one faction, and most were about to be released," said Hamas spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri.

Israeli and officials of Abbas' government said they hoped the release marked a new chapter in relations, following seven years of bloody fighting.

"All the suffering, all the pain is gone," said released prisoner Iyad Milhem, 30, as he rode on one of the buses. "But we still hope for the release of all the other prisoners."

Prominent among those freed was 61-year-old Abdel Rahim Malouh, second-in-command in a small PLO faction, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, which assassinated an Israeli Cabinet minister in 2001.

Friday's release began shortly after daybreak when the shackled prisoners left the Ketziot prison camp in southern Israel and boarded buses with darkened windows that took them to the West Bank. At an Israeli military checkpoint in the West Bank, the prisoners got off the buses, some kissing the ground, and boarded Palestinian buses that took them to Ramallah.

Israel had agreed to release 256 prisoners, but one was held back for further security checks, said Eli Gadizon, of the Israel Prisons' Service. All the inmates were required to sign an undertaking not to engage in anti-Israel violence.

Amjad Namura, 24, of Hebron, who was freed after serving half of a four-year sentence, said he was happy to comply with any agreement signed off by Abbas.

"We are with the decisions of the president no matter what. Whatever Fatah tells me to do I will do it," he said.

Israel holds about 9,200 Palestinian prisoners, most of whom were arrested during the past seven years of Israeli-Palestinian fighting. Almost every Palestinian family has had a member in Israeli jails at some point, and the fate of the prisoners is one of the most emotionally charged issues of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

However, Israel refuses to free inmates serving time for wounding or killing Israelis. None of the prisoners being freed Friday was directly involved in attacks on Israelis, according to Israeli officials.

Earlier this week, families of victims of Palestinian attacks tried to stop the release with a Supreme Court appeal, but the court backed the government.

Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev said the prisoner release is part of a package of goodwill gestures to give new momentum to stalled peace efforts.

"We're hopeful that the combined steps by the Israeli government and the Palestinian government can bring about a new period of cooperation and dialogue, that we have turned the corner on the negative dynamic," Regev said.

However, Palestinian Prime Minister Salam Fayyad said Israel needs to do more to improve the atmosphere. "Your policy is a policy of small change. You do a little here, a little there," he told the Israeli daily Yediot Ahronot in an interview published Friday.

"Israel is a large, strong country. Israel can allow itself to be more bold," he said.

The releases came a day after a top PLO body, the Central Council, endorsed Abbas' call for early presidential and legislative elections.

Abbas hopes to sideline Hamas with new elections, but his high-stakes gamble is also bound to set off new confrontations with the Islamic militants and cement the West Bank-Gaza divide.

Hamas, which won parliament elections last year, immediately threatened to derail a new vote.

Abbas and Hamas have been wrangling over political legitimacy since the Gaza takeover. Elected separately in 2005 as Palestinian Authority president, Abbas has fired the Hamas-led government and installed a West Bank-based caretaker Cabinet of moderates — measures denounced by Hamas as unconstitutional.


Godly men know the song and dance...but God's purpose will prevail!

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By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, we also wept, when we remembered Zion. We hung our lyres on the willows in its midst. For there those who carried us away captive required of us a song; and those who tormented us required of us mirth, saying, Sing us one of the songs of Zion. How shall we sing the Lord's song in a foreign land? If I forget you, O Jerusalem, let my right hand forget her cunning. If I do not remember you, let my tongue cleave to the roof of my mouth; if I do not set Jerusalem above my highest joy. (Psalms 137:1-6)


Remember the promises...

The above is only a tid bit...but a confirmation none the less.
Miki
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Rabbis: 'Peres must repent' - By Aaron Klein www.WorldNetDaily.com

New president slammed for policies 'that will spill Jewish blood'

TEL AVIV – A group of hundreds of prominent Israeli rabbis today urged veteran politician Shimon Peres to immediately "repent" for calling on the Jewish state to evacuate strategic territory the they fear will be used by terrorists to attack Israel.

Peres officially was installed as Israeli president earlier this week. Upon his inauguration, he immediately stated Israel must withdraw from the West Bank, which borders Jerusalem and is within rocket range of Tel Aviv and Israel's international airport.

"We call on Shimon Peres to publicly retract his 'shameful' remarks on the day of his inauguration calling for Israel to 'rid itself of the territories,' referring to the biblical Judea and Samaria (West Bank)," read a statement by the Rabbinical Congress for Peace, a coalition of more than 350 Israeli rabbinic leaders and pulpit rabbis.

"Our sages tell us in the Talmud that when a person assumes an exalted position, all of his sins previously committed are forgiven. But you, Mr. Peres, missed the opportunity to rectify your historical blunders when you declared so blindly that Israel must rid itself of the territories. You caused tremendous damage not only to Jews in Israel but to the status of the Jewish people the world over."

The rabbis called on Peres to "repent, stand up and proclaim with authentic Jewish pride that you no longer support the hazardous and futile formula of 'territory for peace.'"

The rabbinic leaders blasted Peres for leading the 1993 Oslo Accords, in which Israel evacuated strategic territory in exchange for pledges from the late Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat to refrain from terror and make peace with the Jewish state.

"Today it is crystal clear to everyone the Oslo Accords and Israeli evacuations lead to spilling of Jewish blood in all parts of Israel. This is exactly why the Jewish Code of Law forbids Jews to give up a border town – it opens the way for enemies to conquer the land," the rabbis stated.

Last Sunday Peres assumed the role of president, a largely ceremonial position. But political analysts and pundits here widely expect him to take a hands-on role in Israeli diplomacy and policy making.

According to Knesset sources, Peres is contemplating asking lawmakers to officially expand the role of the president to include conducting foreign policy.

Already Peres today called for direct negotiations with Syria, which is hosting top Palestinian terror leaders and supporting the Lebanese Hezbollah militia, which last summer launched thousands of rockets into Israeli population centers. Syrian President Bashar Assad warned several times the past few months his country is preparing for war.

Peres, Israel's longest standing Knesset member, was considered the driving force of the 1993 Oslo Accords. The Peres Peace Center, headed by the new president, advocates the division of Jerusalem and Israeli withdrawals from the strategic West Bank and Golan Heights.

Peres repeatedly has come under fire by critics for policies and plans many say would greatly undermine Israel's security if implemented.

An official biography of the elderly statesman released earlier this year, entitled "Shimon Peres," revealed a draft agreement he hammered out with West Germany in 1961 to allow the creation of German military bases on Israeli soil less than two decades after the Holocaust.

The biography also detailed a controversial plan Peres concocted to lease French Guyana from France and create an Israeli colony there at a time when the nine-year-old Israel was desperate for immigrants and struggling to establish itself.


There's some political verbage in this but even more here:

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"This summer will see Muslim victories in the region and the defeat of our enemies!" – Ahmadinejad in Damascus - DEBKA

The Iranian president trumpeted Iran's intentions for the Middle East when he arrived in Damascus Thursday, July 19. DEBKAfile's Middle East sources reveal that behind the braggadocio, his conversation with Iran's closest ally, Syrian president Bashar Assad, was acrimonious. In fact, he warned Assad he had better stop signaling his willingness for peace talks with Israel because this behavior was hampering Iran's plans for a war this summer.
Ahmadinejad reminded Assad that Tehran had spent almost a year on detailed preparations for a summer war and would not tolerate the Syrian ruler sabotaging this effort. Assad was reminded of his huge debt to the Islamic Republic. In the last few months alone, Iran put up hundreds of millions of dollars for Syria's arms purchases from Russia; Syria gets its oil gratis and raw materials and finished goods at subsidized prices.

Assad replied that with all due respect and appreciation for his Iranian brother's assistance, he is obliged to look after his country's interests, while of course cherishing his friendship with Tehran. Ahmadinejad pointed out that the Israeli prime minister Ehud Olmert's condition for talks was the severance of Damascus' ties with Tehran.

Far from pleasant too was the Iranian president's conversation with Hizballah's secretary-general Hassan Nasrallah, who drove to the Syrian capital from Lebanon in a heavily secured convoy. Nasrallah, who lives in fear of any Israel attack, rarely leaves his bunker hideout. Ahmadinejad asked Tehran's protégé to try and understand that his government was financially squeezed by its preparations for war and was therefore unable at the moment to remit the one million dollars promised to repair the war damage suffered by South Lebanon last year.

The Hizballah leader said that, while he fully understood Tehran's difficulty, he too was weighed down by the heavy cost of his pledges to the inhabitants of southern Lebanon.

Ahmadinejad had an easier time with the heads of eight of the nine Palestinian terrorist leaders hosted in the Syrian capital. With them he was upbeat.

Israel is a lot weaker than it pretends, he said, and a concerted struggle with Syria could easily bring down the Zionist state. He recalled Hizballah's "victory" last year as demonstrating that the Palestinians would be able to crush Israel without recourse to a large army. The coming months, he boasted, would see him marching into Israel shoulder to shoulder with the Palestinian brothers.

After meeting the group, the Iranian president held face to face interviews with each of the hard-line Palestinian leaders and heard their requests for armaments and funding. Before flying home, he left a group of Revolutionary Guards al Qods Brigade officers with instructions for the missions to be assigned to each of the Palestinian terror chiefs in the forthcoming summer


Nonsense!...A Black Hand moving black pieces....

God's hand will prevail!

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A gathering of wolves - Hal Lindsey - www.worldnetdaily.com and www.hallindsey.com

According to the most recent intelligence reports, former Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's gesture for peace – disengagement from Gaza – may have set the stage for the next phase of war.

A senior IDF officer said this week that the weapons Hamas is smuggling into Gaza have become significantly more sophisticated now that they have a free hand to do so without Israeli interference. Since the Gaza takeover by Hamas, it has reportedly smuggled in 20 tons of explosives via the Philidelphia Corridor from the Sinai into the Strip. According to the officer, Israel currently has a limited time frame to address the findings.

"There is today an opportunity since the world has not yet become accustomed to the new Hamas entity, and Hamas has not yet fully completed strengthening it's military capabilities," according to the Jerusalem Post, quoting the unnamed official.

"The Gaza Strip is a boiling pot, the fire underneath is fueled by economy and ideology, and the lid over it is Israel. Hamas is currently not acting against Israel because it is not in the group's interest, but one must not mistake this with the organization's ultimate goals."

Hamas has gone from being a terrorist group to becoming a full-fledged army, with four brigades made up of battalions and platoons. They are in possession of anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons, Katyusha rocket battalions, and Hamas boasts an infantry numbering more than 13,000 recruits.

It is Israel's nightmare scenario: a fully-equipped enemy military force in Hamas, another fully-equipped Hezbollah military force in Lebanon, and an increasingly belligerent regime in Syria poised for war.

Meanwhile, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who has repeatedly promised to wipe Israel from the map, has traveled to Damascus for meetings with Syria's Bashar Assad, who was sworn in this week for another seven-year term as Syrian president.

In addition to meeting with Assad, Ahmadinejad is also planning to meet with Hamas and Hezbollah officials.

Israel has every reason to be concerned. Asked about the possibility of another war breaking out in the region, the Iranian president replied, "We hope the summer will bring victories to the region's nations and failures to their enemies."

The Iranian president called on the region's states to be alert in the face of Israel's attempts to rehabilitate itself after what he defined as its "failure" in the Second Lebanon War.

Ahmadinejad warned that Israel may take action to compensate itself for those failures.

"The Zionist regime has lost its ideology of existence and will therefore try to compensate for its failures," Ahmadinejad told the Syrian press. "This issue should lead to a state of high alert among the region's nations, particularly among the Palestinians and Lebanese."

Nowhere in the Middle East is there a nation on a higher state of alert than Israel.

However, according to the Bible, it is Damascus that should be worried. I realize I have written about this prophecy recently, but the situation in that area seems to be moving into the perimeters of its predictions so rapidly, that it bears repeating.

The Prophet Isaiah was given a burden concerning the city of Damascus, which he recorded in Isaiah 17:1:

"The burden concerning Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap."

Damascus is the oldest continuously inhabited city on earth. Many historians date the city back to the dawn of human civilization.

Damascus has been conquered many times; by the Assyrians, the Persians, the Seleucids, the Romans, Byzantines, Omayyeds, Seljuks, Mamelukes and the Ottoman Empire.

But through all its long history, Damascus has never been destroyed. It has never been 'taken away from being a city' and it has never been left a 'ruinous heap.'

The prophet Isaiah says the destruction of Damascus is tied to some catastrophe that befalls Israel:

"And in that day it shall come to pass, that the glory of Jacob shall fade, and the fatness of his flesh shall grow lean."

But, says Isaiah, "gleaning grapes shall be left in it, as the shaking of an olive tree, two or three berries in the top of the uppermost bough, four or five in its outmost fruitful branches, says the LORD God of Israel."

Israel will suffer much, Isaiah prophesies, but it will survive. "In that day shall his strong cities be as a forsaken bough, and an uppermost branch, which they left because of the children of Israel: and there shall be desolation."

Israel's catastrophe comes, according to the prophet, as part of a catastrophe that involves many nations. A major war between Israel and Syria and its allies fits Isaiah 17:13 like a glove:

"The nations shall rush like the rushing of many waters: but God shall rebuke them, and they shall flee far off, and shall be chased as the chaff of the mountains before the wind, and like a rolling thing before the whirlwind."

Moreover, the destruction of Damascus will be virtually instantaneous. Says Isaiah 17:14:

"And behold at evening time trouble; and before the morning he is no more."

The time of this ancient prophecy's fulfillment truly appears to me to be soon.


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Winding up the spiral of time as history repeats itself. There's nothing new under the sun.
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I am certain that we will learn the truth of this more as we go along.

What I mean is the we believers in Christ fail to understand that at no time in the history of the scriptures did the Palestinian Strip belong to Israel. It was suppose to the part of the lot of Dan. But it never was taken and secured and so it never became a part of the tribal territories and so Judah has no claim on it. And it would belong to Dan if he could come and take it.

Next, we are suppose to be looking up for New Jerusalem and not looking all the time at Old Jerusalem. You know we are suppose to look up!
Miki
DJ That depends on who's history notes you are reading...

JohnK...

I thought this article was interesting in light of everything discussed about your dream and mine during this time frame. It agrees with my thinking concerning appearing to dance to the enemies tune. It's long though...I've highlighted some areas...and put my thoughts in blue.

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Did A'jad predict Armageddon at the UN? - By James Lewis - www.americanthinker.com

This will sound alarming. A literal reading of Ahmadi-Nejad's UN address suggests that he is predicting a total war coming soon.

The key is in his invocation and his conclusion. Normal official communications by Muslims start with, "In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful." A'jad followed that formula immediately with:

"Oh God, hasten the arrival of Imam Al-Mahdi and grant him good health and victory and make us his followers and those who attend to his rightfulness." [italics in the official Iranian version]

Sounds like a pretty standard invocation, but it's not. It is a specific call for the Shiite Messiah, who will bring a final holy war, the final jihad, which in the Khomeini cult implies all-out war with the infidels to bring about the Millenarian Age of Paradise on Earth. (For Khomeini, the term "infidels" includes Sunni Muslims, who do not recognize the Mahdi). That is why Khomeini started the nuclear program twenty years ago, and why it has been pushed consistently by all the major cult leaders.

A'jad put the message explicitly in his peroration, i.e., his summary and conclusion.

"I officially declare that the age of relations arising from the Second World War as well as materialistic thought based on arrogance and domination is now over." (italics added)

Translation: The West, and particularly the United States, emerged dominant after World War Two. Israel declared independence in 1948. The dominance of the West is now over.

A'jad's use of the phrase "I officially declare" indicates how he views himself as Allah's representative on earth; a very common paranoid fantasy, but one that is taught by the Khomeini cult as part of its explicit doctrine. Cult members who are otherwise quite sane can believe such things (as in the Rev. Jim Jones' suicide cult following.)

This declaration is followed by A'jad's messianic prediction.

"Humanity has passed a perilous precipice and the age of monotheism (i.e., Khomeini Shiism), purity, affinity, respecting others, justice and peace-loving has now commenced." (I.e., the End of Times is at hand; italics added).

"It is the divine promise that the truth will be victorious and the earth will be inherited by the righteous." Translation: We will win the coming war.

"The era of darkness will end, prisoners will return home, the occupied lands will be freed, Palestine and Iraq will be liberated from the domination of the occupiers, and the people of America and Europe will be free from the pressures exerted by the Zionists." (That's clear enough.)

"Without any doubt, the Promised One who is the ultimate Savior will come. ... This is the promise of God, and therefore it will be fulfilled." The "Promised One" refers to the messiah, the "occluded Mahdi," who disappeared in the 9th century as a five year old child, and whose return Khomeinists are imminently expecting. This passage is notably blasphemous to the Sunni wing of radical Islam, which admits of no equals to Allah and his Prophet Mohammed. A'jad is saying that the Mahdi will indeed transcend Mohammed, who did not bring about Paradise on Earth.
But the Mahdi will not come without actions of the believers.

"Let's play a part in the fulfillment of all this glory and beauty."

"I wish for a bright future for all human beings and the dawn of liberation and freedom for all humans ... A wish which I expect will be fulfilled in the near future." (Italics added)
Don't forget that A'jad already fulfilled his Islamic obligation to send an ultimatum to the leaders of the infidel nations to convert to Islam or die. He sent personal letters to President Bush and German Chancellor Merkel saying exactly that. In his version of Islamic law, he has fulfilled the requirements for starting his holy war against the West.

Or, to put it in his typical threat language, he has said,

"If you would like to have good relations with the Iranian nation in the future... bow down before the greatness of the Iranian nation and surrender. If you don't accept [to do this], the Iranian nation will... force you to surrender and bow down."
The Columbia University talk now also falls into place. In A'jad's deeply indoctrinated mind, the students laughing at his absurd claim that there are no homosexuals in Iran simply confirmed how steeped they are in sexual sin. Columbia was Soddom and Gomorrah in this world view, and God destroyed those cities after their inhabitants refused to repent from homosexual activities. In his eyes he gave them their last chance.

The fact that many Jews demonstrated against him in the streets of Manhattan, and that President Bollinger asked some sharp questions, will also confirm his existing beliefs.
The UN talk therefore becomes a final notice to the nations of the world. Khomeini himself set the conditions for total war:

"I say let this land (Iran) burn. I say let this land go up in smoke, provided Islam emerges triumphant in the rest of the world." That is the description of an all-out nuclear war.

How would that war start? Michael Medved claimed on the radio that Israeli intelligence expects an Iranian nuclear device within the next 18 months. The CIA supposedly claims about five years. The IAF air attack on a putative Syrian "agricultural research station" on the Euphrates River may have hit nuclear materials or missiles. It also demonstrated that the vaunted Russian air defense system just purchased by Iran and Syria does not work. A follow-up attack into Iranian airspace may therefore occur soon, before the Iranians change their codes and defense configuration.

In A'jad's world, it is desirable to be attacked first, so he can point the finger of guilt at the attackers. (The provokation; hornets under my shirt..kidnappings...) His is a martyrdom tradition, and it is essential for there to be plenty of martyrs on his side. It motivates the cult followers to greater sacrifice -- see the Iran-Iraq War, and repeated statements by A'jad that "martyrdom is powerful." By openly claiming to have 3,000 working centrifuges in Natanz, he is in effect inviting an attack on that facility, putting the US and Israel in a cleft stick. At some point they cannot fail to attack and try to destroy the centrifuges.

Dr. Jack Wheeler of "To the point news" reported that,

"One of India's top generals assigned to liaise with the Iranian military recently returned to New Delhi from several days in Tehran -- in a state of complete amazement." [....]

"Everyone in the government and military can only talk of one thing," he reports. "No matter who I talked to, all they could do was ask me, over and over again, ‘Do you think the Americans will attack us?' ‘When will the Americans attack us?' ‘Will the Americans attack us in a joint operation with the Israelis?' How massive will the attack be?' on and on, endlessly. The Iranians are in a state of total panic."

This is important, because in its public propaganda, the Tehran regime has been telling its people that they are just seeing "psychological warfare" from American and Israel. But internally, the military and government in Iran seem to have a different and more serious interpretation. Wheeler argues that after the IAF attack of September 6, both Syria and Iran were shown to be defenseless against air attack, even with their brand-new Russian Pantsyr anti-air system.

The implication is for a quick attack on Iran. But it is vital to keep in mind the classic joke about the sadist and the masochist, where the masochist yells out, "whip me! whip me!" and the sadist answers, sadistically, "no!" So there is a case for taking the sadist's point of view, and continuing to threaten the Tehran regime without actually striking it. That would upset their expectations, and indeed their psychological need to be provoked into justified rage. For that reason, rather than overt air attacks, under-the-public-radar sabotage operations are always preferable.
(This is such a common use and tool of the enemy. Watch out people for this tactic in your personal lives.)

It must be said that there is a real possibility that the martyrdom regime has planted retaliatory dirty bombs in various places around the world, (egg on a wagon) to go off if Iranian targets are hit. A'jad has said that

"The anger of Muslims may reach an explosion point soon. If such a day comes [America and the West] should know that the waves of the blast will not remain within the boundaries of our region."

That warning could not be clearer. Retaliatory bombs could exist in small coastal freighters or other delivery vehicles in the Mediterranean and Persian Gulf, and in or near the US. The regime has been signing up hundreds of Basiji for martyrdom operations. Those are cheap cannon fodder for them, like the teenagers who were trained to move right into minefields in the Iran-Iraq war, wearing green plastic "keys to paradise" around their necks, to clear the way for assault troops. That is the environment in which A'jad developed his understanding of war.

Sending hundreds of kids to martyrdom on the orders of Ayatollah Khomeini must play havoc with anyone's mind. Ahmadi-Nejad may not have been directly involved in doing that, but he must certainly have known about it during the Iran-Iraq War and approved of it, else he would not be trusted by the Khomeinists who run Iran to become president.

Psychologically, that life experience implies immense personal survival guilt, along with a readiness to commit suicide oneself to bring about the messianic age of the Mahdi. That is an almost inconceivable state of mind for Westerners who have grown up in a generally peaceful world.

What are the implications for the West? First of all, any action against the cult regime should come at a time and place of our choosing, if possible different from the cult predictions. But our hand is being forced (really?) by unverified claims by A'jad to possess 3,000 centrifuges. Israel, Saudi Arabia, and other countries may have good intelligence sources in Iran, which are needed to check this astonishingly bizarre, dangerous and secretive regime.

Second, it is critical to neutralize the fanatical leadership which sustains their delusional system in any major attack. That in itself is very difficult, since humans are easier to hide than industrial facilities. But special ops teams must silence the command, communication and control capacity of the regime instantly.

During the Syrian bombing operation, reports suggested that the entire Syrian communications grid was knocked out. Even cell phones connections in neighboring Lebanon were disrupted. Special Forces were believed to be on the ground, laser-designating the target, and supposedly smuggling out samples. They may also have sabotaged the communications grid, including hardened communications between Pantsyr anti-air defenses. It was a successful dress rehearsal.

Thirdly, unlike the one-shot Israeli attack in 1981 on Saddam's Osirak nuclear reactor, any attack on Iran today may trigger extended hostilities, including assaults on civilians far away from the theater of war. Previously the Iranian Guard (including Ahmadi-Nejad) committed attacks on Jewish synagogues in Buenos Aires. The people who did that are in charge today in Tehran. So this time there will surely be a barrage of Hezb'allah missiles directed at civilians in Israel, like last summer, but possibly much more accurate.

As soon as military action starts, pressure will be brought to bear to shut it down prematurely. For once that pressure must be resisted. This gang is too dangerous to leave them with any of their total war capacities intact. A'jad just flew to Venezuela to arrange for added supplies of refined oil products which Iran cannot make at home. He is planning for a long war. He may increase Iranian meddling in Iraq, but a conventional Iranian invasion of Iraq is unlikely, since conventional forces are highly vulnerable from the air, and the US controls the air.

It seems vital for the West not to take military action until the Iranian nuclear plan has become quite clear. As suggested previously, one possibility is for the IAF to attack several established nuclear targets in Iran, with the United States allowing Israeli overflights of the Gulf. If and when Iran attempts to retaliate against Israel, or even Saudi Arabia, using missiles and aircraft, USN Gulf defenses would be automatically triggered, bringing US forces into the fight. The Saudis would not be happy with Iranian military over flights, since Khomeini fanatics believe they must eventually rule the holy cities of Mecca and Medina. Iran may try to blockade the Straits of Hormuz, leading to US actions to open the Straits as the guarantor of free shipping through international waterways.

Contrary to the Saddam war, today we have France and Germany in support. Whether that actually means anything, or whether they will bend to domestic opposition, is anybody's guess. They could turn out to be weak sisters. But at least they are not actively sabotaging us, as they did with the overthrow of Saddam.

A very dangerous time is coming up. If we are very lucky, the world will be saved by some brilliant secret raids and naval actions along the lines of the Tanker War of the 1990s. With even greater luck there will be a military coup d'etat, throwing the Khomeinist fanatics out of power. But these are extremely ruthless people. Right now it seems more likely there will be an extended conflict, along the lines that the West and Israel will find most difficult to deal with.

If a major Israeli city is severely hit, Israel may respond with massive retaliation. In the Osirak reactor strike of 1981, Israel managed to kill only one person. The coming battle with Iran may make that impossible.

If this interpretation is correct, we have some very difficult times coming up. Our domestic political dialogue has been utterly immature since 9/11. But the prospect of hanging in a fortnight concentrates the mind wonderfully, and it is possible that some on the Left will wake up.

The Iranians are quite capable of stirring up terrorist retaliation in their war of Armageddon. They are suiciders, like the kamikaze cult of WW Two: Very difficult to deal with indeed. Making adequate civil defense preparations may become a crucial part of everyday life, even in the United States. Our feeling of immunity to direct attack is simply out of date. I wonder whether Democrats will allow us to improve protection against domestic attacks?

In making rational predictions of danger we always hope to be wrong. But we cannot plan based on hope alone.

benny balerio
QUOTE (JohnK @ Mar 22 2007, 11:15 AM) *
I do not normally have such dreams, but last night I had a very vivid dream in which I was
receiving a text message on my cell phone. It said "Atomic Attack, One Hour". I was outside
at the time (in the dream), and I saw others reacting to something also, as if they were all
getting the same or similar message(s). I immediately woke up and was wide awake. This
was at about 3:48am this morning. I was shaken about this dream and mentioned it to my wife.

I got out of bed, and attempted to login to the forum at that time and could not get in. I have been
trying all morning, and just now got in. I went back to bed last night, and slept a bit more and woke,
up thinking about Revelation 18, about Babylon, and how in one hour its time had come.



14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.

All of the trumpets and all of the woes are in the big book.

In verse 15, the seventh angel sounds... but where is the woe?

The woe doesn't show up until Revelation 12:12....

12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

Many people read about the seventh trumpet in Revelation 11:15 and think that trumpet is soley about the end of the seven years. It is easy to come to that conclusion, but it is wrong. Let's look again at 11:14 and 11:15.

14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.

15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

Well, it is easy to think that is right at the end of the seven years, and of course part of it is. But the third Woe, is associated with Satan being kicked down to earth still having the 3 1/2 years left. How do we reconcile verse 15 with the length of the Woe?

Okay, look at Revelation 12 again...

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

"Now is come... the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ"....although we read that Satan has 3 1/2 years left on earth !!!

So from that we can conclude that the seventh trumpet Revelation 11:15 covers the entire second half of the seven years.

Backing up again to make some sense of 11:15, "The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever"

What that means is the kingdoms of this world, before Satan is kicked down, are under the principality of Satan, the prince of the power of the air. Remember back in the gospel where Satan tempted Jesus with the kingdoms of this world? And Jesus also saying of Judas, the prince of this world approaches?

When Satan is kicked down... Mystery Babylon is fallen is fallen. Mystery Babylon, is the principalty, and powers in high places... the kingdom of Satan. Mystery Babylon, Satan's kingdom is cast down to earth.

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Well, it is easy to think that is right at the end of the seven years, and of course part of it is. But the third Woe, is associated with Satan being kicked down to earth still having the 3 1/2 years left. How do we reconcile verse 15 with the length of the Woe?


The end of Revelation 10 is exactly 3.5 years before the end. Now go drool over your rapture and tribulation, but without me.
Goodbye.
crownsevenalphabet
QUOTE (JohnK @ Mar 22 2007, 11:15 AM) *
I do not normally have such dreams, but last night I had a very vivid dream in which I was
receiving a text message on my cell phone. It said "Atomic Attack, One Hour". I was outside
at the time (in the dream), and I saw others reacting to something also, as if they were all
getting the same or similar message(s). I immediately woke up and was wide awake. This
was at about 3:48am this morning. I was shaken about this dream and mentioned it to my wife.

I got out of bed, and attempted to login to the forum at that time and could not get in. I have been
trying all morning, and just now got in. I went back to bed last night, and slept a bit more and woke,
up thinking about Revelation 18, about Babylon, and how in one hour its time had come.






http://japanatomicsolarflares.blogspot.com/
This message, has the Pacific ocean, ships . . . sailors, etc . . . when you read it, see if
you see the similar details of your dream ?

The date of your dream is a numerical 8.
The time you posted the message @forum is a numerical 8.
The time you had the dream is a numerical 6.

Revelation 18:6 :
6Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.

Revelation 18:8 :
8Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

Mar 22 2007, 11:15 AM

This was at about 3:48am this morning.

text message on my cell phone. It said "Atomic Attack, One Hour".

Revelation 18, about Babylon, and how in one hour its time had come

2And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

17For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,

19And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.
Earendel
QUOTE (JohnK @ Mar 22 2007, 11:15 AM) *
I do not normally have such dreams, but last night I had a very vivid dream in which I was
receiving a text message on my cell phone. It said "Atomic Attack, One Hour". I was outside
at the time (in the dream), and I saw others reacting to something also, as if they were all
getting the same or similar message(s). I immediately woke up and was wide awake. This
was at about 3:48am this morning. I was shaken about this dream and mentioned it to my wife.

I got out of bed, and attempted to login to the forum at that time and could not get in. I have been
trying all morning, and just now got in. I went back to bed last night, and slept a bit more and woke,
up thinking about Revelation 18, about Babylon, and how in one hour its time had come.



without reading through the rest of the posts I would say that your dream is very prophetic...God has been dealing with the ones He wants to get ready...the day is at hand...the day in which Babylon the Great will fall (that is to say the rule of man).
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