Don’t get your God given desires and passions confused… Part-1
There is a difference between brotherly love and companionship love. There are differences in motherly love and sisterly love. There are different depths to friendship relationships and courtship, and different reasons why we have them…
If God has laid someone on your heart consider the reason(s) why and go no further… If it’s to build them then do just that, because if you introduce other desires in that relationship it can be a hindrance to their growth. If God has given you a burden for someone to succeed spiritually don’t confuse that passion in Christ for a natural or a fleshly one. The devil is tricky, he’ll twist the true reasons for our desires into desired we don’t really have. And this is why Satan is called the accuser of the brethren –Rev 12:10… But if we meditate on truth when the lie’s come to our thoughts we won’t believe them…

It helps for those who can, to come out of the flesh completely and be like Christ. Then the Love for everyone and the relationship with everyone will be the same. Sensual desires are earthly and demonic anyway. Everyone needs to come out of sensuality.


James 3
13 Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by good conduct that his works are done in the meekness of wisdom.
14 But if you have bitter envy and self-seeking in your hearts, do not boast and lie against the truth.
15 This wisdom does not descend from above, but is earthly, sensual, demonic.
16 For where envy and self-seeking exist, confusion and every evil thing are there.
17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy.
18 Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.

WOW
this hits all too close to home for comfort.
I live with it every day.

Years ago,,,my wife and I were having trouble, (my fault,,,her fault,,,it was both of us, I'll take the blame and be the bad guy if there need be one though) so we seperated.

From the time we first seperated,,,,another man was coming around. A "christian" man, but a man the same. (we were all "christians")
Now,,,there would be no concern at all if there was no reason to suspect anything. Friends are friends. Godly friends are Godly friends and better than gold. A Godly man would hope for God's best for a marriage, for a family. Would never pursue a relationship for himself with another mans wife or enable one right? (see my "fundraing" post)

If a couple needs to seperate for a time,,,than its better that way than to force your way through it sometimes. In time,,,God heals all wounds and restores people, marriages, and families,,,,,IF we seek the Lord first and wait on him.

God's will will be done,,,,God hates divorce,yes,,but also hates shotgun weddings too. We should be willing,,and if we werent,,we should take some time to get to know Him and expierence Him more ourselves before even considering reconciliation.

Well,,,that friendship apparently grew. What might have started as Godly,,,became a wedge preventing any Godly restoration in our family.
While God does bring people into other peoples lives,,, not every possibility in that relationship is God's will.

What might have been good for a friend,,,turned into a brik wall for a family.

She divorced me last summer. Since then,,,her and the other man have become inseparable. He says if ever she decided to try to reconcile with me,,,,then,,,he will leave. She's starting to admit to having deeper feelings for him,,and him for her.

Now,,,the kids tell me they are going to marry.

What our fleshly desires do,,,is get in the way of getting close to God.
They enable us to twist and legitamize our relationships,,,,"god-ifying" them . We harden our hearts,,,to God though because of them.
All things are permissable though
By the Lord's grace though,,we are allowed, this will not end in death.
By his mercy we survive in this desert and live on manna,
but we sell ourselves short of entering into his promised land and haveing the fullness of His blessing.

They may appear happy,,,but they will never know what they missed out on.
imagine the suprise of the israelites if they went to heaven and found out they waunder for 40 years to take a 2 week journey
Imagine yourself getting to heaven,,,and seeing all the things God wanted for you in this earth,,and knowing what you missed out on.
There could have been a much happier ending to this.

I am grieved.
Not for my own loss. But for theirs. I do pray for her and his best,,,,but they will never have the family that God wanted them to. I grieve for her,,,no matter what she says,,,the other man is just a substitute, and she will never know the husband God had for her. I grieve for him,,because he will never have a wife the way God wanted him to. Our children, will never have the family God wanted them too,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,all because we all confused and choose our passions over our God given desires.

I see that you and your children are in a serious situation Raf, as well as your x-wife. I pray that the Lords desire will somehow be accomplished in you all. I'm reminded that David wouldn't have Solomon as a son if he didn't have Bathsheba, but he wouldn't have Bathsheba if he didn't sin to get her... Thank God for his grace and forgiveness that turns situations around to benefit us, even though we may not experience everything that he desired us to if we just did the right thing. As you said, when we get to heaven we look back to see that we mist out on more of what God desired for us, like the children of Israel who took a 40 year Journey to get to the promise land when it could have only taken 2 weeks. You're very strong Raf, I pray that the Lord will continue to grace you with such strength in a time like this.


Don’t confuse your God passions for fleshly desires… part 2 of 4
The devil will accuse us of loving carnally what we really love in purity, and if we don’t know or have a relationship with truth we can fall so easily for his accusations and lies…
The reason why the devil will accuse you of evil and fleshly desires in what may be a clean and pure relationship is because he wants do desecrate, contaminate and make that pure relationship impure… Satan wants to prevent you from fulfilling your PURPOSE and GODLY ROLE in those pure and godly relationships you have.
1. The Lord may have set you in a position to be a spiritual mentor to one that’s younger (not necessarily in age but spiritually) in the Lord. You set the example that they want to be like as you follow Christ. Your personality is an inspiration. They’ll even act like and imitate you because they love the way you let God use you. To them you’re like Moses on the mountain with God, (and though you may not really be there yet) your love for God motivates their spirit to clime Gods Mountain.
2. Maybe you’re set in someone’s life as a spiritual big brother/sister (similar to a friend). You watch out for them and talk with them about things they normally wouldn’t talk about with close relatives. You can both tease and laugh about being teased by each other. And if you both argue and fight you’ll always make up in the end. You’ll tell them the truth because you’re more concerned about their development than their upset feelings towards you (because you understand that the anger will eventually pass).
3. God may have set you in a relationship with someone who is like a spiritual mother or father in your life, and you may be emotionally attached to him or her in this pure and holy loving way. You call on them when you need a spiritual break through or answers to hard questions. They look out for you and are always concerned with how you’re doing. They take the time to go through spiritual and natural things with you for you to be a better person. And you may not realize it but some things you do reflect this spiritual parent that teaches you.
4. Maybe you’re a spiritual mother/father to someone to give direction and correction in love. To pray for and supply the necessary words and tools a younger person needs to grow in the Lord. And it is possible to know less spiritually than the child God set you over, but you can teach from experiences that the youth has yet to attain…
Of course there are roles in godly relationships that we interchangeably play sometimes with the same individuals, but this list is just to have a basic idea on the subject.
Now the devil may very well accuse you of fleshly lust and carnal desires in all these types of pure relationships, and if we aren’t grounded in the truth of Gods word that affirms what we truly desire we can believe the devils lies, falling into his traps of the horrendous forms of fornication and adultery. We can also fall away from completely fulfilling our purpose by marrying anyone who the Lord set in our life to play roles apart from marital relationship. So the relationship that started off as a pure one ended in a fleshly and carnal one… and it’s all because we believed the lie and accusation of Satan, which could have been prevented if we knew truth. Sounds hard but it is true…
Sometimes we may have to temporarily or completely cut off some relationships that started off in purity because we sense it turning into carnality/fleshly. And we have to be honest with ourselves… Don’t play with fire! Remember, it’s the truth that makes us free -John 8:32. Also “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?”- Jeremiah 17: 9. So as my Pastor (Bishop Hendricks) would always say, “you have to know your limits…”
Emotional attachment does not certify a carnal/fleshly lie, and it is not a reason to fulfill fleshly desire but to satisfy Gods’ holy desire. And many times these emotions we have for the good of another isn’t our own but it’s Gods desire working through us- Phil 2:13. Believers can feel what God feels so don’t get His Passions confused with your personal feelings… And this is why many times people have fallen, even in ministry, it’s because they’ve mistaken the passions of God in their heart for their own, and believed the lie that it was carnal. Hey, we have to talk about it. If we keeps sweeping things like this under the carpet God himself will expose it in the end, and he won’t be happy when he’s doing it… so lets clean up the mess before he comes.

Don’t confuse your God passions for fleshly desires… part 3
In the next part of this discussion, age is a factor… Says who? Says Paul… 1Tim 5:1 Rebuke not an elder, but intreat him as a father; and the younger men as brethren; 2 The elder women as mothers; the younger as sisters, with all purity. Elder in this text is not referring to a minister but someone old enough to be our father in the church. Strong’s Concordance # Biblical Greek words 4245
The DANGER of giving in to the accusation:
If you fall for it the first time and you don’t realize and correct the mistake, chances are you’ll fall for it again and again unless God delivers you.
If you give in to a temptation of lust with your spiritual mother/father in the Lord, you’ll most likely feel free to lust after everyone else who is your spiritual mother/father in the church.
The spiritual mother or father that gives in to the fleshly/carnal temptations with their spiritual child is not only destroying her or his own soul, but is also reinforcing the lies of Satan in that spiritual son’s or daughter’s life, thus making it even harder for them to overcome the temptations of perverted lusts. But the parent was given to cover and teach the younger person to overcome lusts not to reinforce it…
The spiritual mentor, big-brother or big-sister that gives in to the fleshly/carnal temptations with their trainee is not only diverting from their own purpose, but also reinforcing Satan’s lie in the mind of the trainee that he or she them self lacks control. But the mentor was sent to reinforce truth, not lies… But since the spiritual mentor, big-b or big-s gave in to the temptations to lust, now the spiritual trainee has a stronger sense of hopelessness concerning their ability to control their fleshly desires, because this is what the mentor demonstrated and taught them in their own actions...
Now it has happened many times where God has caused a relationship that started off one way to end in another (but still in the context of his holiness), but this is where we have to have godly judgment/discernment to know his will for our lives, otherwise we may end up overstepping our boundaries…
Do you understand? Can we move on to part 4 ‘Let’s reason together’?

"the devil twists true reasons for our desires..."



where does the Bible say that?