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Hello Everbody,
Has anyone been led to store things for a disaster?I have been led to store away water for emergencies. I have a friend who has very gently said that the Holy Spirit has led her to began preparing for a very lengthy power outage.
It just so happens that I was reading a book about that same thing right before I talked to her.
God is faithful so we can rest in him.I just wondered if anyone else had heard a word from the Lord.
Any confirmations would be appreciated.
God Bless



C
Hi Grace, although I am not saying that God will not tell you to store up, I am always reminding people to also store up on the Word.

What will happen if we find ourselves soon out on the road, away even from our stored up goods, or a natural disaster hits us that we have not prepared for?

So lets store up on the Word in us so we can stand on It in the days to come:

Philippians 4:19
And my God will supply all your needs according to His riches in glory in Christ Jesus.

Be blessed and let us also remember that the Word of the Lord protects us and is a shield around us:

Genesis 15:1
After these things the word of the LORD came to Abram in a vision, saying," Do not fear, Abram,I am a shield to you;Your reward shall be very great."


Let us not wait until we need it: start practising relying on God's promises even now when we have the time to learn. Do not wait for disaster to test God's Word
C
excubitor
People invest for the future by putting all their increase into stocks, bonds and real estate etc. These investments all rely on the economy maintaining a steady course. An economic collapse caused by the restriction of the money supply or natural disasters or civil war could render these assets worthless overnight. Cash in the bank will be frozen and you would not be able to withdraw it. Even if you did have cash it would become next to worthless as shortages cause hyperinflation of basic foodstuffs.

On the other hand today wheat is like $25 for 40 kilos. If stored properly it will last for decades. A hand grinder is an essential item to grind the wheat. Now just imagine what this wheat would mean to you if the economy collapses or distribution infrastructures were disrupted and there was nothing in the supermarkets. In our grandmothers day it was traditional to stock up for times of shortage. Now we don't have enough in the pantry for one week let alone several months. This investment in wheat could pay itself back tenfold or a hundredfold if such events were to occur.

We know that these events are anticipated for the end times.
Rev 6:5 5 And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. 6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure [quart] of wheat for a penny (one days wages), and three measures of barley for a penny (one days wages); and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

This shows that there will be severe shortages of the basics of life.

The other thing to consider is that at the end of times the Beast will curtail our ability to buy and sell. Now if we have food stocked up we will be less tempted to take the Mark of the Beast.
In fact this is what the Parable of the Wise and Foolish Virgins is all about.
Remember that all of the parables in Jesus's Olivet discourse relate strictly to end time events. In the case of the Wise and Foolish Virgins the timing is the middle of the night when the cry goes up that the bridegroom is returning. This corresponds to the middle of the tribulation period when the Abomination of Desolation is setup. Wise Post trib Christians will know from this event that the bridegroom is only 3.5 years from returning and will hasten to ready themselves for the bridegroom. They know however that they must survive the time of trouble until the Lord returns. Fortunately they have stocked up, they have enough supplies to keep them going in the tribulation. The foolish pre trib Christian who thinks that Christ is going to whisk him away out of his lounge chair is shocked because he is still here on earth bang in the middle of the tribulation. But he has not stocked up, except with a few extra packets of chips to go with the DVD box set. He has no provisions to sustain him through the Great Tribulation. He goes to the wise virgins to try and scab some of their supplies off them, but they have been noticing that the foolish christian has been ignoring all of the signs of the times and spending his money on chips, beer and DVD's and so they say we only have enough for ourselves. The foolish pretrib then goes off to buy and in so doing takes the Mark of the Beast. When the Lord returns and sees the abomination on their foreheads he says that he does not know them and shuts them out of the kingdom.

Now I don't want to belabour this point excessively or suggest that our survival depends on having enough supplies for 3.5 years, certainly not. Nor would I like to see Christians everywhere setting up survivalist retreats. However the Bible repeatedly says of the end times to "Watch and Prepare". God is always very practical in his advisements. Invariably there is something practical to do to prepare. Also there is something about getting together some basic survival supplies which helps us to focus on how fragile our lives in this modern Babylon is. "Come out of her my people.Lest you share in her plagues" says the scripture. Denying ourselves indulgent luxuries in this modern babylon to lay aside for troublesome times is an excellent way for us to prepare for end times. It also forces us to think about how much we will need God in those days for everyday basic things. This will prompt us to pray and get close to him early so that he will be close by when we need him urgently. We certainly should not trust in our survival supplies either. They could easily be stolen, or commandeered by the Government (stolen) or spoiled or lost. Still they might not either, and when you find yourself not being able to buy and sell in the tribulation those supplies which keep you going for a few months might be the difference between giving into temptation and taking the mark of the beast. God will feed worthy Christians in the tribulation (see Rev 12) however we should not be suprised if he leaves us for a few weeks or months to test us, just like he tested the children of Israel in the wilderness before giving them water from the rock, and bread from heaven. If we have been noble and prepared ourselves physically and mentally for a time of trouble and need; then our suffering will be greatly reduced.

This is the patience and the faith of the Saints
Pamela
Like in the days of Noah, people thought he was nuts for building the Ark.....

If the Spirit is leading you, do it...
HumbleDon
The food we store may not be for ourselves, praise the Lord.





Don
Dani
QUOTE(excubitor @ Mar 17 2007, 04:57 AM) [snapback]105715[/snapback]

... However the Bible repeatedly says of the end times to "Watch and Prepare".


Excu - would you share all those repeated passages that say "watch and prepare" for the end times...

I'm interested in that prepare part that goes with watch...

thanks
George
Here is what our example and mentor stored up and what He taught us to store up.

Matthew 8
20 And Jesus said to him, "Foxes have holes and birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay His head."

Matthew 6
25 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?

Christ was talking about storing up this kind of faith.

Matthew 14
19 Then He commanded the multitudes to sit down on the grass. And He took the five loaves and the two fish, and looking up to heaven, He blessed and broke and gave the loaves to the disciples; and the disciples gave to the multitudes.
20 So they all ate and were filled, and they took up twelve baskets full of the fragments that remained.

Those who trust in man.

Luke 12
18 So he said, 'I will do this: I will pull down my barns and build greater, and there I will store all my crops and my goods.
19 And I will say to my soul, "Soul, you have many goods laid up for many years; take your ease; eat, drink, and be merry." '
20 But God said to him, 'Fool! This night your soul will be required of you; then whose will those things be which you have provided?'
21 So is he who lays up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God."
excubitor
QUOTE(Dani @ Mar 18 2007, 09:21 AM) [snapback]105769[/snapback]

QUOTE(excubitor @ Mar 17 2007, 04:57 AM) [snapback]105715[/snapback]

... However the Bible repeatedly says of the end times to "Watch and Prepare".


Excu - would you share all those repeated passages that say "watch and prepare" for the end times...

I'm interested in that prepare part that goes with watch...

thanks

Hi Dani,
Please read my web page on this subject. http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/scatter...tchfulSheep.htm
I admit that there is not much about setting aside foodstuffs in preparing for the tribulation. Perhaps God will use the Holy Spirit to reveal to people in the end times to set aside some provisions and maybe I am completely wrong in my interpretation here. I'm certainly not being dogmatic on this point.
Most of the scriptures say to watch. The analogy of watching to prepare for battle is constantly used. Putting on the whole armour of God is absolutely necessary every day but especially when a concerted attack comes from the enemy which will certainly be occurring at the Tribulation.

Let each man read my interpretation on the wise and foolish virgins and let the Spirit convict him or her as to whether it sounds true or not. Remember though that although this parable is of general value to all Christians down through the ages, it is nevertheless a parable directed specifically to end time events, namely the return of Christ. I am certain that there will be specific messages from this parable for Christians in the end times which have not been necessary or appropriate for Christians down through the ages.

Another one of these apocalyptic parables which was given during the Olivet discourse by Christ immediately after his prophecies of the end of the world is:
Matt 24:43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. 44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. 45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? 46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. 47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods. 48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; 49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken

So there is a season immediately prior the return of Christ where it will be appropriate for those in charge of the household of faith to make sure that the household has food until the Lord returns. Now of course someone here is going to say. "That means the pastor has to feed the sheep from the Word to prepare them for the kingdom of God". Yes of course. That is the general meaning for the Christians over the millenia. Whereas there may be a specific message to certain end time christians to take a more specific and literal interpretation of this parable as the Holy Spirit leads them.

Godsloft:
Good use of scripture I admit.
Here is some more scripture.
Proverbs 30:24 There be four things which are little upon the earth, but they are exceeding wise: 25 The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer;

Prov 6:6 Go to the ant, thou sluggard; consider her ways, and be wise: 7 Which having no guide, overseer, or ruler, 8 Provideth her meat in the summer, and gathereth her food in the harvest. 9 How long wilt thou sleep, O sluggard? when wilt thou arise out of thy sleep? 10 Yet a little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to sleep: 11 So shall thy poverty come as one that travelleth, and thy want as an armed man.

Squirrels also store away nuts in their little hollows. God made ants did he not? and he made squirrels did he not? So why can squirrels and ants store away for a time of want and people cannot?
Now does the ant think about putting away food for the winter. No he just does it because that's what ants do. And that's what people always did too, stocking up and putting things away for the winter when the land was not producing food. We don't do that anymore because we have outsourced this stockpiling to food companies and other profit making institutions. Does a man plant a crop and only take what he needs for today and leaves the rest to rot in the field. Does a man plant a vine and eat only the fruit which grows that day and let the rest rot, or does he preserve it in bottles and make it into wine. Even the Lord above plants a crop of men and harvests it at the end of the earth. He also plants a vine in Judae so that he may enjoy the fruits of it for eternity. Cannot man do likewise? The point is we do these things not out of anxiety over the future but because that is what we do as wise stewards of the bounty that God gives us.

Lazy people live from one day to the next. As Christians however we are taught not be lazy sluggards but to work. When we work God blesses us bountifully with more than we need for today. So what are we going to do with this surplus. Put it in a big barn so that we can be lazy and frivolous tomorrow and spend it on our lusts like your rich man in Luke 12. No we are to be rich toward God and man, giving alms where we see a need, giving to the work of the church, putting aside some provision for our families for a period of hardship, (the winter of the church perhaps).

Remember too that my advice was not given to battlers who are struggling to put food on the table. It was given to men who have so much bounty that they are putting their money into investment accounts. I was pointing out that a few survival supplies would be a worthwhile investment. I say that also to people who have money left over for DVD's, chips, couches, TV sets, DVD players, visits to the movies, eating out every week, wardrobes full of fashionable clothes etc. Those things will be cast aside and trampled on in the day of trouble when you would trade all that you own for a few cups of wheat.

Matt 8 was not suggesting that Christ did not even have a hole to live in or a bed to lie down in. He was describing the fact that he was alienated from the world and society. A sojourner, wanderer. His kingdom was not of this world. He had no place or stake in this world. This is the attitude we should share and consider when we love the things of this world and go buying them for our enjoyment and pleasure so that we will feel comfortable and at home here. Surely this is the very thing I have been advocating we should not do. Not putting stuff into investment accounts but rather be putting things aside which will help us to avoid the temptations of the antichrist and enable us to help and serve others when and if times get hard. This demonstrates our faith and belief in the prophecies of the Bible, namely that all of this world and all material things will eventually dissolve into flame.

So what if the harvest does not come in and we are unable to set anything aside, or thieves come and steal our stockpile stuff, will the Lord let us die? No he will feed us with manna from heaven as he fed those people from the loaves and fishes story. But what about the lazy man who spends his summer on the couch munching on chips pinning his wishes and prayers on being whisked away from it all if anything bad happens? What of the lazy man who has sat in his couch for the whole harvest and has not assisted the labourers in the harvest. Should he receive a share along with the labourers when times get tight?

I believe that those who are counted worthy to escape from the tribulation are those who see the storm clouds gathering on the horizon and anticipate what they will need to weather the storm. Naturally faith and trust in God are things which we must gather in store for dark times but is it wrong as we lay aside spiritual things to also lay aside physical things. Are we to say that if we see winter coming it is alright to lay aside physical provisions during the harvest but that it is wrong when we see the Great Tribulation coming to lay aside physical provisions? But if we are watching the skies in the East and we see the storm clouds gather will we do nothing? Will we not do whatever is necessary to escape? Perhaps in that day the correct action will be to flee into the mountains and leave all your supplies back at home. But then perhaps the right course will be to bunker down at home with our survival supplies. At least you will have options and you will make choices.

Luke 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

When a man goes to sea in a ship does he leave all his life rafts back on the shore because the Lord will save him from the waves? When a man goes flying does he neglect to check his parachute because the Lord will save him from gravity? When a man goes on a 3 month sea voyage does he pack food sufficient for the journey or does he anticipate that the Lord will feed him manna? The answer to all of these questions is that he will prepare ahead of time for potential mishaps. But then if his ship sinks and he is forced into his life raft he has faith in God to rescue him. When his plane begins to crash he has faith in God that his parachute will open and he will land safely. When the pirates overun the ship and take the supplies of food he has faith that God will sustain him till he can get more food.

As I pointed out in the last post, there is a spiritual dimension to this. If we are tempted out of the needs of the flesh to take the mark of the Beast then we will lose not only our physical lives but our eternal souls as well.

Mr 14:36 And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt. And he cometh, and findeth them sleeping, and saith unto Peter, Simon, sleepest thou? couldest not thou watch one hour? Watch ye and pray, lest ye enter into temptation. The spirit truly is ready, but the flesh is weak

I know we would all imagine that our faith is so strong and our spirit so ready that we will be able to resist in the time of trial. However the flesh is weak, when temptation comes that cache of wheat is going to come in very handy . Just before Christ left this world his disciples were sleeping. It appears that just before he returns his disciples will be sleeping as well Matt 25. At least the wise ones though had some provisions stored up for the night to see them through.
dennis mann
if i remember correctly, on this forum, 2 or 3 years ago,...........

God warned us (speaking thru Shekel), that a nuclear attack on America is possible,
and an economic collapse is coming,
and we should stockpile food and other supplies (medecines, water, etc)

and some of us on this discussion board said , that we are stockpiling things at home,

and i did just that
i bot large bags of raw, dry rice at Sam's Club, and other non-perishables, and fuels,
and i bot a Pur water-filter, so i can drink water from a ditch or home-made well,
i bot some bottled water
and buried some cash
and paid off my mortgage and debts

and i told my family and neighbors , what i knew, and they thought that i'm a nut
they think that Jesus is a nut, also


Shekel said that:
the economic collapse would bring great inconvenience and harm to people, BUT, it would help get some people saved.............
also, these Judgements/Disasters from God are bad, but the main purpose of the Disasters is :get people saved.

dennis
George
QUOTE(excubitor @ Mar 18 2007, 03:31 AM) [snapback]105830[/snapback]



I admit that there is not much about setting aside foodstuffs in preparing for the tribulation. Perhaps God will use the Holy Spirit to reveal to people in the end times to set aside some provisions and maybe I am completely wrong in my interpretation here. I'm certainly not being dogmatic on this point.
Most of the scriptures say to watch. The analogy of watching to prepare for battle is constantly used. Putting on the whole armour of God is absolutely necessary every day but especially when a concerted attack comes from the enemy which will certainly be occurring at the Tribulation.

Let each man read my interpretation on the wise and foolish virgins and let the Spirit convict him or her as to whether it sounds true or not. Remember though that although this parable is of general value to all Christians down through the ages, it is nevertheless a parable directed specifically to end time events, namely the return of Christ. I am certain that there will be specific messages from this parable for Christians in the end times which have not been necessary or appropriate for Christians down through the ages.

The entire bible is there to learn and prepare for the end time. The oil that goes in the lamps is "faith in God". The kind of faith that brings manna out of the sky and water out of the face of the rock and fire down on the heads of the enemy. This faith is offered to anyone who will believe. Finding God through Christ is also offered to anyone who will believe. If you store up mans goods for what is coming the evil of the earth will kill you over it. But they can't kill you over what they can't see and that is faith in God. Let faith in God be your food and drink and shelter. Get out there and find God before the ruckus starts.
onetiggerroo
Interesting. We have a few things gathered in a closet in the center part of our home..that is where the pantry is located as well...sleeping bags, etc. I will tell you about a grocery store conversation my hubby had last night....funny I was just talking to someone about this very subject!

Here is what happened:

Last night my husband went to the grocery store. He was only going in for a couple of items...he was in there for 30 minutes on line! The scanners were down, and nobody knew how to process orders! OY! Modern technology! Anyway, there were a pair of men from Africa, behind my husband and they began talking to him.

He said that they were concerned about how Americans would survive, if we lost some of the luxuries we take for grantit (Sp?). They were wondering how many Americans know how to farm the land! My husband told them that we put in a garden every year...they were surprised. He said he should have invited them over to see our little garden in the back forty of our yard...and wished he could get more people to join in the garden. (We do produce quite a bit of vegtables!) He told them, that most Americans are lazy, but not all Americans. It depends on how they were raised. They agreed that they have seen too many lazy Americans. It was nice to find out that not all Americans are lazy and some actually knew the basic concepts for survival.
JohnK
I was raised to be able to take care of myself, and one thing I was taught is to be prepared.
That does not mean I need to have a whole years supply of foodstuffs (as some believe). But
where I live now (in Florida), you know it sure does make sense to have an emergency supply
of things on hand. What if I had to go a week or two (or more), without the normal everyday
stuff being available at the stores? Does it not make sense to have something in the cupboard
rather than having to go almost daily to get what is needed to survive?

Yes I believe it is important to have a right relationship with God, but to have the things I need
(a supply of physical things) for at least a bit longer than I normally would is also a good way
to manage things. I am not suggesting you hoard, and let things go to waste, but what if you
had to move to someplace else in a hurry. Would you have time to go and get supplies, or
would you have them ready to go, and put into the old pickup truck and get out of town now?

So I prefer to be prepared for both eventualities, spiritual and physical difficulties, I feel both are
on the way. And what the heck, if there is a rapture and I go, then maybe I have left behind, just
what someone else needs to survive and make it through the tribulation. (BTW: a Bible is also
something I consider essential supplies.)


OneOfHisHandmaidens
This past fall (2006), I truly believe that I received instructions from our Lord to begin making preparations for the difficult days ahead. The main reason for having supplies on hand will be to furnish food, water and clothing to those who hadn't been ready for these rough times to come. In doing so we will fulfill our calling to feed and care for those in need. I was also given the instructions to "tell the churches" to be the center for supplying the needs of those that are lost (both spirituallly and physically).



Matthew 25:31-40 (KJV)

"31When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

32And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

33And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

35For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

37Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me."

Humbly submitted,

~OneOfHisHandmaidens~





stormdreamer
I'm so happy and relieved that the you and so many on this forum are hearing the Lord's warning about to prepare. I've been warning and trying to tell people that they need to prepare for sometime. Many times the Lord in his word tells us that He warns his children/servants before the coming danger. In proverbs it tells us that it is wise to prepare, that it is fools who don't. We are told to prepare spiritually and literally. Although we are told not to trust in 'things' for no matter how prepared we are, it is the Lord who will provide and protect us. But, we are to be obedient, when he warns us to prepare. He knows what's coming. He has given me and several people dreams about being prepared for the terrible "storm" that is coming. Some of us need more of heads up to get prepared, and some just a short time. I've never felt fear for myself in my dreams. Mostly I am trying to warn others to prepare and to get to safety. Sadly most don't listen. Resently a friend of mine, who have never dreamed of this before, has been having many dreams about the need to prepare for a coming storm and to warn others so that they too will be prepared.

I think it is just common sense to have an emergency pack ready at all times. To have water and food and extra batteries on hand. There are many places on the internet, like the Red Cross that give a list of things to have. Having lived in the Hurricane and tornado region and experienced some really hard times. These things really made my life and others who had not prepared, much much easier to deal with.

It is not acting in fear that one prepares, it is the knowing, it is wisdom, to know that things happen. When those times happen, you are the one who is not running around in fear, but those who refused to take action before hand and be ready. For me, when it has come down to survive in terrible situations, I have felt no fear, instead I was able to help others in their time of need.

Yes, the Lord will provide and protect and our faith is in the believing of that. But when He himself warns us and gives us the time and resourses to be ready, (His provision and protections), then we have a choice. While you can be eating your roast beef or fresh veggies from the garden, or will He have to provide for you, as you have to stand in long lines with hundreds of others who need a handout for the basic necessities or worse the Lord will help you find a trash can full of old food. He does provide.

Having lived through some really bad hurricanes, I was prepared, but it took me awhile before hand, because I am disabled and only live on $600. per month. But our wonderful loving father warned me years before hand so that I could slowly prepare. When the terrible storms hit, I was better off than those who make 100,000's a year and didn't prepare. I ended up taking care of them!

While others, even many Christians may think you are acting in fear, or that you don't trust God to provide, don't let them get you down. Instead pray for them that they too will hear the Lord's warnings so that they are ready. Who knows you may be the one who will help them survive in those tough times.

God Bless
Stormdreamer/Sandra
Dio
Im not so concerned with the food/money aspects of survival as I am about detection and false accusation. I feel that when I refuse the mark they will say I am defunct on my loans for my condo/ect... and declare me a criminal or something since we can't pay taxes then either. I want to know if theres a way we can make some sort of loose organization or something to gather basic stuff more for those purposes:
1. RFID detectors - where the heck can we get these!? we need lots to see whats tracked and what isn't, we deserve to know whats being tracked and how, but they are certainly not going to tell us.
2. Organic gardens - we should all start some sort of organic garden some place! doesn't even have to be at your house, just some place accessible... i think it just makes more sense than storing food, as you can't move very well carrying lots of food around... I dont't know really, but if anyone finds RFID detectors for sale, PM me please.
Many more things fall in this category, such as water distillery kits (very important).. I dont know really, but I thought its worth a mention. Just that instead of water bottles, get water distillery, and instead of canned food maybe a garden or a cache of plantable seeds would be better... don't know, just suggestioning smile.gif
OneOfHisHandmaidens
My belief and understanding about what I have been instructed to do is to "tell the churches" to be ready to receive anyone who is "displaced" from their dwelling place. Our gathered supplies are to be taken to our churches to meet the needs of those who have need. Our churches need to become centers for relief and ministry. In so doing we will be following our Lord's instructions found in Matthew 25:34-40 saying:

"34Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

35For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

37Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me."

May we hear take heed to His words of instructions as these times of need are approaching.


OneOfHisHandmaidens
*bump*

Bringing this thread back up due to the recent information on other threads about being prepared for impending hard times facing us.
bonomike
We should, as a minimum, submit to those set over us--in this case, the government.

Here's what they have to say about preparation: www.ready.gov

To do otherwise is to allow one's pride to have the upper hand over scripture.

In Christ,

Mike
1LikeDeborah
Lately I have had recent nudging to do the same in storing water. I do not live on much but have some room. I think its good to be prepared both physically and spiritually. Jospeh was wisely instructed to prepare for famine in Egypt. He storedv enough to share with those in need. Why not us? smile.gif
ducktapehero
I try to store food and water. It can come in handy. In fact, it HAS come in handy. It doesn't need to be a natural disaster, what happens if you lose your job? If you have some food stocked up it sure makes it a lot easier. We had about 6 months of no income at one point, we barely had enough to pay rent. But we had some food stocked up and it saved our butts.

I am not a "survivalist" by any means. I don't have dozens of guns with thousands of rounds of ammo. I don't have hundred of cases of MRE's in my basement just waiting for the Chinese to invade...but I'm ready for REAL things. Maybe an ice storm in winter where the electricity goes out for a week, or if the market crashes and things are tight for a bit.

A little food, a little water, an indoor propane heater and stove. Some propane bottles. When you go shopping just spend an extra 5 or 10 bucks on food that will store and over time you will have a little "stockpile".


Adonaicole
I agree with ducktapehero, storing away a little food and water is a good idea, even in good times.

I had a similar experience where I went 3 months with no income. Bills didn't get paid, but I never went hungry, for I had my little stockpile of food to tide me over.
stormdreamer
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I try to store food and water. It can come in handy. In fact, it HAS come in handy. It doesn't need to be a natural disaster, what happens if you lose your job? If you have some food stocked up it sure makes it a lot easier. We had about 6 months of no income at one point, we barely had enough to pay rent. But we had some food stocked up and it saved our butts.

I am not a "survivalist" by any means. I don't have dozens of guns with thousands of rounds of ammo. I don't have hundred of cases of MRE's in my basement just waiting for the Chinese to invade...but I'm ready for REAL things. Maybe an ice storm in winter where the electricity goes out for a week, or if the market crashes and things are tight for a bit.

A little food, a little water, an indoor propane heater and stove. Some propane bottles. When you go shopping just spend an extra 5 or 10 bucks on food that will store and over time you will have a little "stockpile".



I agree. I'm the same way. I'm not a survivalist, storing up tons of things. But I do have a few emergency supplies, and yes, there have been times when they have come in handy, or it was able to help those in need. Since it's a good idea to check the dates on foods and rotate them. This past winter I looked at the dates and saw that it was time, and I gave it to the church food bank, because it was more than I could eat in a short period of time. So it helped others in their time of need. I think it's just plain common sence and it's something all should do, because things happen, almost always when you least expect it. It's really not a matter of "if" it happens, it is "when" it happens. For me, it gives me a little since of peace knowning I've done all I could do, and knowing too that it was the Lord who helped me be able to do it.

iseenow
Hi Guys,

Been watching the news lately (haven't we all?) smile.gif With all of the seismic activity that's been going on in the Pacific Rim, i.e. the Ring of Fire, and the volcano watch in the Aleutian Is. I decided to make sure I have all of my Earthquake supplies up to date, especially water!
I live in an earthquake zone and we are dealing with heat as well. So the old saying could apply here "It's time for Shake and Bake." (sorry it just slipped out past my fingers.)

I don't believe I can recall a time in recent history of when there has been so many disasters occurring at the same time. Do you?
MadMikkie
I haven't read all of the posts. But it is an argument I've been having (and it is an argument!) with a 'spirit filled and spirit led charismatic christian' friend of mine. PHEW....does it ever go on! And it's not even my WORD - it's my husband's. She believes that it is only the spirit - being prepared spiritually. God says so - but my husband has been - for a few years now - believing he is being led to 'store up' food supplies. Dorothea Montague does the same...she has a website - fogive if I don't post it right now - I have so many bookmarks it would take an hour to find.

Part of my concerns are this. You have 2 people - each claiming that God told them this - two diametrically opposite Words. What my friend doesn't seem to be able to process is maybe God has told her this thing.....that's her task. And maybe God has told my hubby this thing - and that's HIS task. That's not to say that he's less spiritually prepared - say for example - he won't be 'caught up' etc. HOWEVER - if we did store this food, blankets etc.....we were 'caught up' - as popular theory has it - who's to say our neighbour's wouldn't have need of what we'd stored. On one side of us we have christians - the other side are not christians ( that I'm aware of).

The other week - whilst shopping for an in ground sleeve for my clothesline - I went past the camping section of the hardware store. Something told me to buy a butane stove and it's cartridges ( well - I had to get the cartridges because the stove doesn't come with them). So I did. came home - put it in the cupboard where the candles used to be kept ( I moved them and can't remember where too). A few days later - the power goes out. As it turned out - it wasn't off for long. But it was off long enough for me to realise that A: I hadn't put the tin kettle in a place that's easy to find in the dark - it was still packed away downstairs. B: I'd forgotten where the candles were. C: the wind up LED torch we have is not enough. and D: the potential for heat buildup in our furnace - uses electricity to spread the heat throughout the house. No fan opening vents electrically - no spreading of heat - it builds up....thankfully - the emergency procedure booklet for the furnace was downstairs near the furnace - hubby had the torch so was able to find it.

SO I think God will tell whom He wishes what He wants them to do. I bought a huge bag of bread flour. Hadn't used it in a while because I hadn't made bread. My friend was out of money and out of bread for her son - asked if I had any. I gave her enough to make 3 loaves ( last's son about 2 days cool.gif ). I had it - and happily gave it. I also tend to keep lots of pasta - if needbe - I can give that to her. She's also passed on stuff to us - generally perishable - because her son won't eat it ( he has aspbergers so if he 'can't eat it' it's to do with this. I also have lentils and dried beans and grains that I use to put in soup. I have a pot that is big enough to make soup to feed maybe 15 people - with each person having a large mug of soup.

I have plenty of blankets....generally lightweight polar fleece - but some old - fashioned wool ones - old doona's, some sleeping bags and a tent.

If need be - we could blanket another small family....and feed them when our rice store is full.

gtg - my children are climb ing on their grandmother's cabinte....driving me bronco

hugs
MM<
grace54
Thanks to all.I think most of your comments point to the fact that it is of upmost importance that we stay prayerful and hear from God for ourselves.We can't depend on others.
In times like these hearing accurately from God may mean life or death for us or the well being of our family.
Please continue your post.We want to hear from God and prepare if he directs us.
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