I've kept editing it....but a Pastor that the editor showed the original to thought it was great - thought provoking - challenging etc etc. And told the editor to print it 'by all means' isn't God great?

HOW BIG IS YOUR GOD?


My husband asks the question sometimes, how big is your God? He got quite upset a few years ago at hearing someone suggest that the Spirit of God cannot extend past the first few rows in a church. I do understand that a Pastor would want to have people in a compact group so that he doesn’t feel the need to be waving his head around trying to see everyone. But sometimes people who sit where they do because it makes it easier for them to see what is written on the screen – song words, and messages etcetera. In one case, it wasn’t a matter of trying to separate themselves from the others, it was a matter of comfort having experienced the physical repercussions later in the day, of sitting too close to the front of the auditorium. As a consequence, they refused to move. We’ve heard similar stories from other friends about other churches having a similar problem with those who sit up in the back row.

Recently, I have been talking to and helping, a chap on the internet. Don’t roll your eyes! I’m quite shocked that I am even able to. He believes he has a message from God. This man has a tumour in his eye, as refused medical treatment and doesn’t believe he has long left. English isn’t his first language, so what he writes down, when it comes to understanding it, does have a lot to do with how much pain he is in. He walked away from the church years ago because they were trying to steer him in a direction he did not want to go. He asked a general question on an internet forum, I was drawn to it and answered as best as I could. He sounded stressed and emotionally distraught. I didn’t throw God at him. I gave him both a secular option, and a Christian option. My concerns were that he was on a knife’s edge, and I didn’t want him jumping in the wrong direction. I have been corresponding with this man for a while and he is now sure that he is hearing from God and has kept asking for clarification from Him about what he is receiving - as by the way – have I.

The thing is, he has upset a few people on a Christian forum I directed him to. Because the forum members haven’t had the luxury of corresponding with him, and he is only writing what his message is, they don’t know about how his English deteriorates when in pain. They don’t know about his confusion initially, except where I’ve told them. And they don’t understand what this man is trying to say. It took me five days of constant praying for clarity and understanding, painstakingly going through his emails and re-reading them to even get an idea of what he believes his message is.

The one thing about the whole experience that has struck me is this.

God doesn’t fit into a box. He’s bigger than that – and yet we don’t always necessarily see it. We have a very narrow mindset about just how big God is. It’s like we have a bad case of spiritual tunnel vision. Imagine looking at a painting close up. You can't see it all. You have to step back – you need to want to see the whole painting, to actually do so. If you want to stay in your comfy little zone – your ‘box’ - and see only what you want to see - and believe only what you want to believe....then you stay where you are - with just the small panel of painting in front of you. God is bigger than we can possibly imagine, yet we only see such a tiny fraction of Him and His work. And we try really very hard to make God fit into the image we have of Him, instead of letting God show us who He truly is.

God challenges mankind to see past the end of their noses.

So many Christians don’t grow spiritually because they don’t want to. They want God in their box with them. They want only what they are comfortable with. And – yes – I am guilty of that. We sit in our boxes, and we learn what we are instructed, what our church teaches. When challenged, we may peek out of our box. We may even step out of our box. But when pushed too far, we very quickly jump back in quick smart.

I read a book by Betty J Eadie recently, The Awakening Heart, a sequel to her best seller, Embraced by the Light, the story of her near death experience and journey with God, what she saw and how it has since affected her life. I was getting very concerned with the words she was using, the road she seemed to be taking. I felt uncomfortable with it, mainly because what she was saying didn’t ‘gel’ with what I had been taught about God.

Then one night, as I put the book aside, something she said jumped out at me.
“God is not about religion. Religion is a structure that should house our faith in God.”

Many people have walked away from ‘the church’ because of the restrictions that ‘religion’ has placed on them. Because they cannot reconcile their feelings with what they are taught and with what they see going on around them within the church. The church has hurt these people badly enough, that they will even deny God exists. But what is religion except a system of beliefs and practices that have been institutionalized (to use a word from Webster’s dictionary).

Christianity originally wasn’t like this at all. The core of Christianity is that Jesus is the Son of God. That He died and rose again, ascended to Heaven and will return for his bride. Those who are Christians, follow Jesus’ teachings. Jesus’ teachings, not Tom, Dick or Harry’s teachings.

Yet, how can anyone believe that Jesus is the Son, and still refuse to see everything else that God is capable of? If God loved us so much to sacrifice His Son for us why can’t we see so much more? Why do we instantly dismiss how another person views God. And why on earth do we try to humanize God? Why would we disbelieve God can give an ordinary person a Message of significance? Why do we try to make God smaller than He is so we are comfortable with Him.

That is what we do! We constrict our vision of Christ and God. This in turn stops people from speaking out for Christ and for God because if what others are saying doesn’t quite fit in with how we see God, or with what we are brought up to believe God is, then we disagree and we get back into our comfortable little holes and wait until either someone else speaks out, or someone comes along who agrees with what we believe. A former Pastor of mine once said in a sermon “step out of the possible into the Impossible”. I don’t know where he got it from – but it sticks in my mind.

What do we have to do to see God and everything that He is?

I believe, firstly we need to get out of our box. Acknowledge that we have tried to make God as small as we are. Secondly, like the Tasmanian Tourism logo says, Explore the possibilities” and live them. And thirdly, live the IMpossibilities. "Dance like nobody's watching; love like you've never been hurt. Sing like nobody's listening; live like it's heaven on earth." (Mark Twain). Stay true to the Core of Christianity, but explore and open your hearts and minds to all the potentialities that God has set out in this world for us.


© Michelle E Evans-Catherall 2007

If you can show me that God spoke through Jezebel in scripture, you might even convince me of your Mad Donna example, otherwise I'm not taking the bait.

If you can show me that God spoke through Jezebel in scripture, you might even convince me of your Mad Donna example, otherwise I'm not taking the bait.

I always say "the truth is the truth is the truth no matter who says it", and I figure if God can use an a$$ that talked, he can maybe use me too.


the seven thunders...in another thread I asked you a question and you never responded. It was about a week ago I believe.

I'm not judging. I'm discerning, and currently her spiritual fruit is rotten. It's up to her to repent, I can't do it for her. And to promote her music as something worthy of praise is mind boggling to me. Paul, as Saul, never acted that way. He was zealous for righteousness even though he was wrong.



I have seen the video where she's dressed as a man, in Australia singing "I'm in the land they call down under...ain't nobody gonna steal my thunder...I'm in the land where they say 'Gooday"...aint nobody gonna stand in my way" then she sings "I'm gonna bang my drum...I'm gonna ring my bell..and I don't give a f--- if I go to Hell!"



She has a Jezebel spirit that teaches licentiousness and sexual immorality (which is what that song was about, her "sexual freedom") Look at what has happened to her biggest fan Brittany Spears. That poor girl's life has been wasted on her pursuit of being just like Madonna.



You can believe whatever you want, just don't try to suck me into the lie.

And if I remember correctly, that jackass spoke to Balaam who was greedy for gain...

The following goes with my last post




Jude 1


1Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called:

2Mercy unto you, and peace, and love, be multiplied.

3Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.

4For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

5I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.

6And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

7Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

8Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

9Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

10But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.

11Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.

12These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;

13Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

14And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

15To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

16These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.

17But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;

18How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

19These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.

20But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,

21Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

22And of some have compassion, making a difference:

23And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.

24Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, 25To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.





Madonna said she doesn't give a f--- if she goes to Hell

Click on this link and then click on the blue image of Madonna and watch the clip from They sold their souls video. It explains what this video is about...Sirendom

http://www.goodfight.org/e_madonna.html



P.S. Pastor Schimmel doesn't spew hate. He does this video in a very tasteful and loving way with no hatred towards these people.

I was saved when l was 8 but lived the life of sinner because l didn't know....anything different.

I was an astrologer...living a sinful life...outwardly absolutely no Christian would have known l needed someone to explain the gospel message to me...TO PRAY FOR ME. To do unto me as the Lord did unto them.

In fact l lived next door to some of the squeaky clean ones. They never condemned and yelled bad stuff over the fence when we had our parties...They just never yelled anything good over the fence either.
Like.... "Jesus loves you and wants to come into your life and help you...He's always been their for you and is watching over you. I'll help you stand up and be strong. Come to church with me and l'll introduce you to Christians who walk the walk and not just the talk the talk."

The good things that came out of my mouth in those days came out because Jesus was in my life. I just didn't know he was there all the time. I just thought it was me trying to be good...But it was Jesus.

I think we will be surprised what we are held accountable for. mmddll...that's why judgement comes to the church before it comes to the world...because we haven't done our duty...in Jesus name.

"...we haven't done our duty... in Jesus name." Amen! I asked a fellow Christian how did she feel about Anna Nicole Smith's sudden death, and to my horror my friend's reply absolutely alarmed me. She said, "Well, what am I to think, the woman was a druggy, alcoholic whore and lived a disgusting life. She deserved what happened to her, because the 'wages of sin are death'."

I don't know about you, but I recollect from my readings of the New Testament that Jesus had great compassion for sinners. He could see their torment. He could see that they were filled with self-hatred due to woundedness leading to their rebellion. He could see that they were captives held by Darkness. May I ask where in Christianity has this "compassionate trait" evaporated, for today it is apparently and completely extinct. When I heard of Anna Nicole's death I felt such great SORROW. I felt that somehow we, Christianity, had horribly, horribly failed her and Christ, and Christianity continues to fail countless nobodies just like her all around the world. Christians have become smug. Will they be responsible for allowing the fallen to stumble into the Jaws of Hell? "...we haven't done our duty... in Jesus name." Will there be a price to be paid for this ghastly smugness?

"Conservatives" believe that bad things should be removed from society as much as possible,
to save people who may be of weak mind.

"liberals" believe that people should have freedom of self destruction, and there's nothing
wrong with making a buck off of an idiot.


the young female enters society , immediatly there is people all around her, "don't listen
to the old people , do what you feel like"
"free yourself from that big bad religious society of yersterday"
about 70% of it is made up bullsht.
the antichrist society only has two values for the female , sex, and pushing evil agenda through
victimhood.
now, our wonderful society is pushing the idea that being a whore is a "position of power"
that works out perfectly for bosses who never lift a finger and collect money from people
who work for them.
yet another reason why the bosses of today want the general populace to be broke.
the reality of diseases like HIV are completly hidden from the public.
the young female is now more of a victim of brainwashing today then in any other point of
American history.

this is a form of class warfare, because the rich are dropping money on schools who
actually do some teaching, and there's always another step for the kid to be occupied with.
the public schools were destroyed, on purpose, years ago and the main subject the kid
will be working on is Victim Of Society 101.


the young male enters society about the highschool age , going to that first party,
immediatly finds himself surrounded by criminals and thrown into a world he has no way
of being prepaired for.
the young male is now in direct contact with people who have nothing to lose.
ITS A KNOWN FACT that the majority young males will have little regard for their future.
ITS A KNOWN FACT that most males when they feel threatened will want to fight back.
ITS A KNOWN FACT that most young people have very little will power.

a well established CULTURE OF CRIME.

hmmm ...how did things turn out this way?

judges had things on their minds other then punishing crime, like anti-American political
angenda.

it started with pure ignorance of education in the public schools, then it moved on to
sob stories of racism that ruined Constitutional sanity,
letting hardcore criminals out of jail "because of
their envirionment when they were young",
then , putting the cop on trial rather then the criminal.
then , perversion of legal definitions.

how is it possible that any citizen can go downtown and buy drugs and prostitutes , but
the cops can't find the sellers?

perversion of legal definitions. "entrapment"

cops can't ask someone if they have illegal drugs for sale , because that would be "entrapment"
entrapment is when a cop asks someone to committ a crime , but if a person has a substance
that is 100 percent illegal , it's not entrapment, unless the cop asked the person to
create it.
perversion of the definition of the law allows a whole culture of crime to exist.

it's not very hard to figure out if there is a prostitute working a street, the judges
made it a waste of time for the officer to bother with it, in other words judges support
the crime.

the people demanded that they be tougher on crime , so we got more legal perversion
by expanding the rules so honest citizens fall into the void.
after letting criminals out of jail they tell us crime is bad because of the Second
Ammendment.

so citizens become angrier and try to take the law into their own hands,
in response the law makers became tougher on vigilanties

the citizens over rule the judges and say "3 felonies , you're out!"
in response the law makers perverse the law so people get felonies for stealing pizza.





currently , California might end up letting a bunch of criminals out of jail because
of overcrowding.
overcrowding because so many people have to live in this culture of crime.
the fifth largest economy in the world doesn't have money to build new jails.
the State with vast areas of empty land doesn't have a place to build a jail.
how long are we going to listen to these people and their bullsht?



crime is growing larger and larger every year and the only thing our government cares
about is restricting rights.



oh the government has a justice system, when the average young American slips up,
the government quiety writes their name down, and releases them back into society,
one or more of these records means the person can no longer get a job.
what happens to a person who can't work?
they become a key player in the culture of crime , they MUST committ crimes to survive,
and they recruit other people to get involved , making the problem larger.


our jail system is "correctional"?

it's a torture chamber where drugs are availible , violence is a daily part of life,
the person becomes insane , and gets released back onto the street.

send your local politician a thank you letter , they're doing a great job, and our current socity doesn't want to hear anything about "right and wrong"

While the news media did report extensively on Madonna kissing Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera, there was something quite significant about the event that went largely unreported.

The MTV event was in fact a mock lesbian wedding. There was a "wedding chapel" in the set. Madonna was dressed as the butch lesbian, as she was in a tux with a top hat, and Britney and Christina were in the role as the more feminine lesbians. As Madonna stood at the top of a staircase waiting to walk down the isle to Britney and Christina, the traditional wedding march began. It was after they met at the end of the isle and danced that they kissed one another to bring a climax to the wedding. Together they sang at the end of the song that they are tired of the "concept of right and wrong."

In the same way,,,,
there is a lot of rubbish that comes from "christian" churches,books, friends, etc.......

What are we listening too versus what does Jesus say?
Who tries to take away from or change the Lords message?
Who supports it?

We need to examine our teachers and what we allow to influence us closely.
Very closely.

Turn at my rebuke

I think you people who are trying to put words in my mouth should be ashamed of yourselves. I never once said Madonna was without the possibility of salvation and God's forgiveness. But currently she stands condemned, not by me but by God. If you watched the end that video clip, she clearly "knows" what the bible says because she quotes it with a "ghastly smugness". Shame on you Miki! Shame on you Seven Thunders!



The only point I was making was about trying to use her music to glorify Christ when that is not what her music stands for. It stands for tearing Christ down. Shame on you!

I've kept editing it....but a Pastor that the editor showed the original to thought it was great - thought provoking - challenging etc etc. And told the editor to print it 'by all means' isn't God great?

HOW BIG IS YOUR GOD?


My husband asks the question sometimes, how big is your God? He got quite upset a few years ago at hearing someone suggest that the Spirit of God cannot extend past the first few rows in a church. I do understand that a Pastor would want to have people in a compact group so that he doesn’t feel the need to be waving his head around trying to see everyone. But sometimes people who sit where they do because it makes it easier for them to see what is written on the screen – song words, and messages etcetera. In one case, it wasn’t a matter of trying to separate themselves from the others, it was a matter of comfort having experienced the physical repercussions later in the day, of sitting too close to the front of the auditorium. As a consequence, they refused to move. We’ve heard similar stories from other friends about other churches having a similar problem with those who sit up in the back row.

Recently, I have been talking to and helping, a chap on the internet. Don’t roll your eyes! I’m quite shocked that I am even able to. He believes he has a message from God. This man has a tumour in his eye, as refused medical treatment and doesn’t believe he has long left. English isn’t his first language, so what he writes down, when it comes to understanding it, does have a lot to do with how much pain he is in. He walked away from the church years ago because they were trying to steer him in a direction he did not want to go. He asked a general question on an internet forum, I was drawn to it and answered as best as I could. He sounded stressed and emotionally distraught. I didn’t throw God at him. I gave him both a secular option, and a Christian option. My concerns were that he was on a knife’s edge, and I didn’t want him jumping in the wrong direction. I have been corresponding with this man for a while and he is now sure that he is hearing from God and has kept asking for clarification from Him about what he is receiving - as by the way – have I.

The thing is, he has upset a few people on a Christian forum I directed him to. Because the forum members haven’t had the luxury of corresponding with him, and he is only writing what his message is, they don’t know about how his English deteriorates when in pain. They don’t know about his confusion initially, except where I’ve told them. And they don’t understand what this man is trying to say. It took me five days of constant praying for clarity and understanding, painstakingly going through his emails and re-reading them to even get an idea of what he believes his message is.

The one thing about the whole experience that has struck me is this.

God doesn’t fit into a box. He’s bigger than that – and yet we don’t always necessarily see it. We have a very narrow mindset about just how big God is. It’s like we have a bad case of spiritual tunnel vision. Imagine looking at a painting close up. You can't see it all. You have to step back – you need to want to see the whole painting, to actually do so. If you want to stay in your comfy little zone – your ‘box’ - and see only what you want to see - and believe only what you want to believe....then you stay where you are - with just the small panel of painting in front of you. God is bigger than we can possibly imagine, yet we only see such a tiny fraction of Him and His work. And we try really very hard to make God fit into the image we have of Him, instead of letting God show us who He truly is.

God challenges mankind to see past the end of their noses.

So many Christians don’t grow spiritually because they don’t want to. They want God in their box with them. They want only what they are comfortable with. And – yes – I am guilty of that. We sit in our boxes, and we learn what we are instructed, what our church teaches. When challenged, we may peek out of our box. We may even step out of our box. But when pushed too far, we very quickly jump back in quick smart.

I read a book by Betty J Eadie recently, The Awakening Heart, a sequel to her best seller, Embraced by the Light, the story of her near death experience and journey with God, what she saw and how it has since affected her life. I was getting very concerned with the words she was using, the road she seemed to be taking. I felt uncomfortable with it, mainly because what she was saying didn’t ‘gel’ with what I had been taught about God.

Then one night, as I put the book aside, something she said jumped out at me.
“God is not about religion. Religion is a structure that should house our faith in God.”

Many people have walked away from ‘the church’ because of the restrictions that ‘religion’ has placed on them. Because they cannot reconcile their feelings with what they are taught and with what they see going on around them within the church. The church has hurt these people badly enough, that they will even deny God exists. But what is religion except a system of beliefs and practices that have been institutionalized (to use a word from Webster’s dictionary).

Christianity originally wasn’t like this at all. The core of Christianity is that Jesus is the Son of God. That He died and rose again, ascended to Heaven and will return for his bride. Those who are Christians, follow Jesus’ teachings. Jesus’ teachings, not Tom, Dick or Harry’s teachings.

Yet, how can anyone believe that Jesus is the Son, and still refuse to see everything else that God is capable of? If God loved us so much to sacrifice His Son for us why can’t we see so much more? Why do we instantly dismiss how another person views God. And why on earth do we try to humanize God? Why would we disbelieve God can give an ordinary person a Message of significance? Why do we try to make God smaller than He is so we are comfortable with Him.

That is what we do! We constrict our vision of Christ and God. This in turn stops people from speaking out for Christ and for God because if what others are saying doesn’t quite fit in with how we see God, or with what we are brought up to believe God is, then we disagree and we get back into our comfortable little holes and wait until either someone else speaks out, or someone comes along who agrees with what we believe. A former Pastor of mine once said in a sermon “step out of the possible into the Impossible”. I don’t know where he got it from – but it sticks in my mind.

What do we have to do to see God and everything that He is?

I believe, firstly we need to get out of our box. Acknowledge that we have tried to make God as small as we are. Secondly, like the Tasmanian Tourism logo says, Explore the possibilities” and live them. And thirdly, live the IMpossibilities. "Dance like nobody's watching; love like you've never been hurt. Sing like nobody's listening; live like it's heaven on earth." (Mark Twain). Stay true to the Core of Christianity, but explore and open your hearts and minds to all the potentialities that God has set out in this world for us.


© Michelle E Evans-Catherall 2007

I came to (approached the Light) of the Lord circa 1982, but I was more like a wayside heart. (The parable of the sower) I have by now fulfilled all four categories of the heart in that parable. I had a wayside heart for years, and anything I heard was stolen from me. I had a stony heart also with no depth. I have had a thorny heart and have had the cares of this world and the deceitfulness of riches enter in and steal the word from me.

I believe I have a good ground heart at this writing. I certainly want the Lordship of Christ to reign and have His way in me. I want to be willing and obedient just like it says in Isaiah 1:19. I do not seek after a sinful life or nature and I want to flee iniquity. I can be tricked at times by my own flesh, the world, and the devil, but thank God for 1 John 1:9!

During the 1986- 1996 decade, I did stuff I knew better than to do. I knew it was sin, but I did it anyways. I actually could not stop. My sins were many and grievous, as all sins are. I never did anything more than other men, really, but I was convicted of it a lot more because of the faith and confession to the Lord back in '82. My closet has it's skeletons, but the Lord has forgiven me of all my past life, and I know He has, for He told me so!

Devilish carnality had hold of me to the extent that I enjoyed sinning on the one side and was made very uncomfortable in my soul on the other. I was in a strait betwixt the two, and I wanted out, but just could not give it up. I was addicted to sin!

But I would wake up in the wee hours of the morning while my wife slept beside me, and I would look up into the ceiling and say in a whisper, "Lord. I am sinning, and I cannot stop! Please help me!" This went on for quite some time.

At Christmas, 1995 my wife bought me a KJV electronic bible and concordance. (One of those little handheld deals which you can use to read or search for scriptures) I had no use for it at that time, and it sat on the end table by my sofa until about late February of 1996.

I was "home alone" one day and as I sat, I idly picked up the "E bible," opened the cover and turned it on. I felt like playing with it for some reason, and I entered the first word that came into my head, which was "unforgiven!" I felt that word described my plight pretty well! It began to whirl and cycle through the canon of the word, and then a little info panel opened up on the screen saying, "Unforgiven not in bible." The split second I read those words, something like a rushing wind blew through me so powerfully I thought the door must be open and a wind blowing! I had thought I had sinned to a point where there could be no forgiveness. I suddenly knew I was wrong, and that the Lord wanted to set me free!

A few days later in March 1996, I was coming back home from a trip on my job as a truck driver. I was west of Toronto, Ontario and I was approaching an exit where there was a large truck stop and it had a bible chapel on the lot. As I approached the exit at highway speed, I suddenly heard a voice speak, saying "Turn aside!"

I thought I was imagining things! I continued to approach the exit, and made no move to obey the voice. The voice spoke again, more commandingly this time! "Turn aside!" I instantly had a recollection of one sermon I had heard years before when I was a regular church goer for a short while. It was about how Moses saw a bush burning without being consumed, and he "turned aside" to have a better look!

I snapped the wheel over to steer into the exit ramp and braked stiffly to slow for the turn into the truckstop! I entered the lot and it was so full of trucks that there was no place to park. I elected to chalk it up as an overactive imagination, and I began to pull back out on the road.

I was coming by the bible chapel, and just then a truck pulled out from a stall right beside the chapel! I "knew" I had best park in the hole he left! I still was bewildered by it all, and I looked in my pocket and only had a quarter, not enough even for a cup of coffee! I thought I would just phone the boss, and get under way! As I came adjacent to the steps of the bible chapel, this voice spoke one last time and said, "Turn aside!"

I went up the steps and into the chapel to find an elderly gent nodding away in a rocking chair at the far end of the room. My entrance stirred him from his napping , and he asked me what he could do for me. I explained how I had heard this mysterious voice three times telling me to "turn aside", and that I had come in there now figuring I had best obey the voice and I asked him to hear my confession, and pray for me. I bared my soul, and he ministered and prayed. I felt a burden lift and a definite release as though I had been washed clean! It was tangible in it's effect! I was in the chapel about two hours, captivated by the love. The second the minister said amen to the prayer, the door opened up and another trucker came in to visit! I went home feeling like I had a new lease on life!

The very next weekend I just "knew" I had to get to church! I found a charismatic church I knew about, but arrived late. The service was soon over, and an explanation that a visiting ministry from the "Toronto Blessing" would be there that same evening (St Patricks day, March 17th 1996). I was impressed upon that I was to come back to that service!

Sure enough, I got there and this minister was up preaching a sermon he called "The frozen chosen!" At the end of the message, there was a prayer line and I needed to be in it! I went up, unashamed in a crowd of strangers! The manifestations of spiritual power were plainly evident in a way I have seldom seen since that day! Two girls in their mid twenties came up and manifested demons, and this preacher guy commanded them out, and they went screaming and leaving the now clean vessels lying on the floor! People were stacked up like cordwood, and I said, "Lord there is no way I want to make that kind of spectacle of myself!"

The minister came to me, and I told him I was healed and forgiven of my backsliding ways, and wanted the gift of the Holy Spirit! He began to pray in other tongues and then said that "Out of my belly shall flow rivers of living water!" He laid hands on me and I felt a ping like the shock one gets from walking on a static charged rug! The screen of my mind turned red! My lips and temples went numb! I fell backwards, not caring how I fell ! I lay prone for only about a minute, and I arose a new creature! I knew I was different! I was finaly genuinely happy! I could feel this Presence! My mind felt clean!

For 12 days afterwards, I felt like I was literallty walking on a cushion of air! I later began to realize the totality of my deliverance! I did not want to steal anymore. I did not want to swear. I no longer felt overwhelmed in self pity! I received a capacity for the word, and it came alive every time I read the bible! I could memorize scripture, and retain it easily! I was given a prayer language of my own! I felt like I was a totaly converted vessel! I have never wanted to go back to my former state since that day!

When I slipped into my car on the way home from that service, I only drove about an eighth of a mile, and I had this uncontrollable urge to weep! I pulled to the shoulder and wailed and wailed! I asked out loud, "Lord, why am I crying?" I heard a voice so loudly in my spirit man and yet speaking gently, and he said, "You have just realized all your sins are forgiven! You have finally seen My face and not just My hand!"

Thus began a new day and a new way for me! My life is not a shadow of what it was 10 years ago! The changes are all encompassing! The only thing I can honestly say I have now that I had back then is the skin that covers the glory within! I praise and thank God for that day!

The Lord gave me this word me soon after! It is my bible and I can read it personally. Where the bible says Eprahim, I could see my name written as plain as day!

Jer 31: 18. I have surely heard LARRY bemoaning himself thus; Thou hast chastised me, and I was chastised, as a bullock unaccustomed to the yoke: turn thou me, and I shall be turned; for thou art the Lord my God. 19. Surely after that I was turned, I repented; and after that I was instructed, I smote upon my thigh: I was ashamed, yea, even confounded, because I did bear the reproach of my youth. 20. Is LARRY my dear son? is he a pleasant child? for since I spake against him, I do earnestly remember him still: therefore my bowels are troubled for him; I will surely have mercy upon him, saith the Lord.

Excellent link mmddll !!

sometimes,,,I have heard wisdom in some strange places,
Rolling Stones,,,Mick Jagger said,,,"you cant always get what you want,,,you get what you need."
(Oh how true,,,that God provides for and is our every need)

However,,,,
This one proverb does not make Jagger a teacher I should follow.
(um,,,,the same guy that pleads for sympathy for the devil??? I DONT THINK SO)

Any particular song could have a heartfelt message for somebody,,,a special meaning for you,,,but.........
like in the saying, you dont find a good wife in a brothell,,,,,,,you dont search for Godly wisdom among the pagans.
(you might find it,,,but you'd be better off looking elsewhere)

Looking at the lifestyle and messages from many musicians,,,,,,many are not to be followed.
(personally,,,,I wouldnt even support them by paying for their work,,,dont buy their songs,,,,but dont download them illegally either,,,thats bad too)

In the same way,,,,
there is a lot of rubbish that comes from "christian" churches,books, friends, etc.......

What are we listening too versus what does Jesus say?
Who tries to take away from or change the Lords message?
Who supports it?

We need to examine our teachers and what we allow to influence us closely.
Very closely.

Not meaning to get sidetracked here, but the numbers and alphabet are only part of it. It is what he derived from it based on kaballah and tarot and Hinduism and his utter hatred of Jesus Christ that is disgusting, and he still has a huge following after being dead since 1947, and he believed he could become a god. What is Madonna to alot of people but a "goddess"? Did anyone follow the jackass that spoke to Balaam like the hordes that flock to a Madonna concert or Mick Jagger concert? I agree that somebody might read those lyrics and think of Jesus, but my point is that if someone ignorant were to follow where those lyrics go and the music and all, and get hooked on Madonna, then the end result is not good. It's the same reason why no Christian should be promoting Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings, or the Matrix trilogy.



I would suggest buying or borrowing from someone that full 10 hour DVD and be informed of how powerful these musicians (and actors) are over their fans, you might get a different perspective on what I'm saying. I just think it is better to warn about rather than to encourage such things and then people can make an informed decision about it.