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Miki
Shekel's revelation is right up my ally....Mercy and Hope!

http://www.bible-codes.org/acrostic_geneal...%20Bible%20Code

I love this part!!

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Again in agreement with the code, Paul says in the book of Romans that Abraham is the father of two groups of people, believers who are circumcised and believers who are uncircumcised:

"...that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be in uncircumcision, that righteousness might be reckoned unto them; and the father of circumcision to them who not only are of the circumcision, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham which he had in uncircumcision." (Rom. 4:10-12).

Therefore, the "peoples" spoken of in the code refer to both Jews and Gentiles. This opening sentence is encoded within the ungodly line of descent ---those of Cain who were "driven out from the presence of the Lord", (Gen. 4:14, cf., Job 18:19 in Hebrew). The fact that this first sentence is encoded within the ungodly line of descent (who perished in the flood) rather than in the godly line implies something important. It implies hope to lost men. It seems to indicate that the ungodly line of Cain is symbolic of the gentile seed in general (i.e., non-Jews) who were cut off from God and separate from the chosen seed (of Abraham) until the time of Christ. Thus, whereas the godly line represents the elect seed unto Abraham, to David, and then on to Christ; conversely, the ungodly line of Cain apparently represents the alienated seed.

"Wherefore remember, that once ye, the Gentiles in the flesh, ... that ye were at that time separate from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of the promise, having no hope and without God in the world." (Eph. 2:11-12)

"... and that he might make known the riches of his glory upon vessels of mercy, which he afore prepared unto glory, even us, whom he also called, not from the Jews only, but also from the Gentiles? As he saith also in Hosea, I will call that my people, which was not my people; And her beloved, that was not beloved." (Roman 9:23-25)



"I will forgive them that rose up against me,"

Ironically, what one would expect to be encoded within the line of Cain is instead encoded within the godly line of Seth and what is encoded within the godly line of Seth is instead encoded within the ungodly line of Cain! For the bible records that it was Cain that "rose up against his brother and slew him", (same Hebrew word as in code, Gen. 4:8). This implies that the godly line ultimately are no better off than Cain and that both people groups are in desperate need of forgiveness --- both Jew and Gentile!

"What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we before laid to the charge both of Jews and Greeks, that they are all under sin; as it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one; There is none that understandeth, There is none that seeketh after God; They have all turned aside, they are together become unprofitable; There is none that doeth good, no, not, so much as one: Their feet are swift to shed blood;" (Rom. 3:9-12, 15).

The statement that "I will forgive them that rose up against me" also implies that Jesus is like righteous Abel. Abel was slain by His brother Cain in the same way Jesus was slain by His brethren, the Jews.

"Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?" (Acts 2:36-37)


"...having compassion, forgiving (or "lifting up") those of dust a second time!"




And then there's this part...Does anybody care to take it on?

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This code was written about two thousand years before Christ, and to my knowledge only now discovered in our day 4000 years later! This in itself, I believe, is a sign that God will soon reclaim His people Israel to Himself by turning them from their sins by their acceptance of Jesus (Yeshua) as Messiah. Moreover, the 70th jubilee (i.e., 70 x 7 x 7 years) from when Israel entered the Promised Land occurs within a couple of decades from now.

http://www.bible-codes.org/acrostic_geneal...%20Bible%20Code
Miki
This has been a lot of work Dean...I pray You can continue to sort things out.
duncdrewnoah
QUOTE(Miki @ Mar 1 2007, 08:18 AM) [snapback]103890[/snapback]

Shekel's revelation is right up my ally....Mercy and Hope!

http://www.bible-codes.org/acrostic_geneal...%20Bible%20Code

I love this part!!

QUOTE
Again in agreement with the code, Paul says in the book of Romans that Abraham is the father of two groups of people, believers who are circumcised and believers who are uncircumcised:

"...that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be in uncircumcision, that righteousness might be reckoned unto them; and the father of circumcision to them who not only are of the circumcision, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham which he had in uncircumcision." (Rom. 4:10-12).

Therefore, the "peoples" spoken of in the code refer to both Jews and Gentiles. This opening sentence is encoded within the ungodly line of descent ---those of Cain who were "driven out from the presence of the Lord", (Gen. 4:14, cf., Job 18:19 in Hebrew). The fact that this first sentence is encoded within the ungodly line of descent (who perished in the flood) rather than in the godly line implies something important. It implies hope to lost men. It seems to indicate that the ungodly line of Cain is symbolic of the gentile seed in general (i.e., non-Jews) who were cut off from God and separate from the chosen seed (of Abraham) until the time of Christ. Thus, whereas the godly line represents the elect seed unto Abraham, to David, and then on to Christ; conversely, the ungodly line of Cain apparently represents the alienated seed.

"Wherefore remember, that once ye, the Gentiles in the flesh, ... that ye were at that time separate from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of the promise, having no hope and without God in the world." (Eph. 2:11-12)

"... and that he might make known the riches of his glory upon vessels of mercy, which he afore prepared unto glory, even us, whom he also called, not from the Jews only, but also from the Gentiles? As he saith also in Hosea, I will call that my people, which was not my people; And her beloved, that was not beloved." (Roman 9:23-25)



"I will forgive them that rose up against me,"

Ironically, what one would expect to be encoded within the line of Cain is instead encoded within the godly line of Seth and what is encoded within the godly line of Seth is instead encoded within the ungodly line of Cain! For the bible records that it was Cain that "rose up against his brother and slew him", (same Hebrew word as in code, Gen. 4:8). This implies that the godly line ultimately are no better off than Cain and that both people groups are in desperate need of forgiveness --- both Jew and Gentile!

"What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we before laid to the charge both of Jews and Greeks, that they are all under sin; as it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one; There is none that understandeth, There is none that seeketh after God; They have all turned aside, they are together become unprofitable; There is none that doeth good, no, not, so much as one: Their feet are swift to shed blood;" (Rom. 3:9-12, 15).

The statement that "I will forgive them that rose up against me" also implies that Jesus is like righteous Abel. Abel was slain by His brother Cain in the same way Jesus was slain by His brethren, the Jews.

"Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?" (Acts 2:36-37)


"...having compassion, forgiving (or "lifting up") those of dust a second time!"




And then there's this part...Does anybody care to take it on?

QUOTE
This code was written about two thousand years before Christ, and to my knowledge only now discovered in our day 4000 years later! This in itself, I believe, is a sign that God will soon reclaim His people Israel to Himself by turning them from their sins by their acceptance of Jesus (Yeshua) as Messiah. Moreover, the 70th jubilee (i.e., 70 x 7 x 7 years) from when Israel entered the Promised Land occurs within a couple of decades from now.

http://www.bible-codes.org/acrostic_geneal...%20Bible%20Code


by my calculations: abraham was born in 2008 after creation (based on genesis and acts)...if he got the covenant with God when he was 82 (my best guess since we know abraham was older than 75, had come out of egypt and was younger than 85) then according to according to acts, 430 yrs later to the day the law was given to moses after the exodus, we come to 2520 (360x7)...we are told 480 yrs later, solomon started the temple (the yr 3000). if we count the yrs of kings after solomon, add the yrs til the decree to nehemiah and or ezra that daniel spoke of, we have Jesus being born in a jubilee yr of 3950. 2000 yrs later (360x2000, to the very day) we get June 7 1967. The day Jerusalem fell back to Israel. That, in my opinion was the yr 5950 (70x7x7 after the law was given to moses). that puts us around 5991 this yr and another jubilee coming up in about 9 yrs. ie the second coming!
Miki
I'm still mulling over this. I like the way my Lord works!
http://www.bible-codes.org/acrostic_geneal...%20Bible%20Code
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Therefore, the "peoples" spoken of in the code refer to both Jews and Gentiles. This opening sentence is encoded within the ungodly line of descent ---those of Cain who were "driven out from the presence of the Lord", (Gen. 4:14, cf., Job 18:19 in Hebrew). The fact that this first sentence is encoded within the ungodly line of descent (who perished in the flood) rather than in the godly line implies something important. It implies hope to lost men. It seems to indicate that the ungodly line of Cain is symbolic of the gentile seed in general (i.e., non-Jews) who were cut off from God and separate from the chosen seed (of Abraham) until the time of Christ. Thus, whereas the godly line represents the elect seed unto Abraham, to David, and then on to Christ; conversely, the ungodly line of Cain apparently represents the alienated seed.

"Wherefore remember, that once ye, the Gentiles in the flesh, ... that ye were at that time separate from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of the promise, having no hope and without God in the world." (Eph. 2:11-12)

"... and that he might make known the riches of his glory upon vessels of mercy, which he afore prepared unto glory, even us, whom he also called, not from the Jews only, but also from the Gentiles? As he saith also in Hosea, I will call that my people, which was not my people; And her beloved, that was not beloved." (Roman 9:23-25)



"I will forgive them that rose up against me,"

Ironically, what one would expect to be encoded within the line of Cain is instead encoded within the godly line of Seth and what is encoded within the godly line of Seth is instead encoded within the ungodly line of Cain! For the bible records that it was Cain that "rose up against his brother and slew him", (same Hebrew word as in code, Gen. 4:8). This implies that the godly line ultimately are no better off than Cain and that both people groups are in desperate need of forgiveness --- both Jew and Gentile!
Shekel
QUOTE(Miki @ Mar 2 2007, 04:27 PM) [snapback]104066[/snapback]

This has been a lot of work Dean...I pray You can continue to sort things out.



Thank you for praying Miki!

I am still working on a final version of this and the names code that is easier to understand and hopefully avoids too many details that can be distracting.

What I really like about this acrostic is that what it says is so powerful and yet how it says it is equally indisputable. How can anyone deny that this is the hand of God? For this reason I am spending extra time on this code so that it can have maximum impact, paticularily among Jews, because Hebrew is their native tounge.

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Miki, here is that article on the acrostic that is almost ready to be put out:

Secret Code Discovered in Ancient Genealogy of Christ (Part 1 of 3)

The first 10 names in the genealogy from Adam to Noah contain a secret code at least 4000 years old. Names have meaning in the bible. Adam, for example, means, "man". By connecting the meaning of all 10 names together in their correct order as given in the bible someone discovered that collectively the names reveal this prophecy: "A man is appointed, a man of sorrow. The Blessed God shall come down teaching that His death shall bring the grieving rest."

Recently another code was discovered within these same 10 names, along with the next 10 names up to Abraham, (Gen. 5, 11). (These names represent the godly line of decent through Seth.) The first letter of each consecutive Hebrew name from Adam to Abraham forms an acrostic that says, "I will forgive my enemies, having compassion, forgiving those made from dust a second time."

The counterpart of the godly line of Seth is the ungodly line of Cain, (Gen. 4). Cain's line likewise contains an acrostic. It is a compilation of two slightly different readings that augment one another: "I will choose a circumcised people for myself (i.e., Jews), even various peoples for myself (i.e., Gentiles)." (The words, "Jews" and "Gentiles" are strongly inferred. They are inserted here for the sake of those unfamiliar with the bible. A Gentile is a non-Jew.)

--- An Example of an Acrostic

The following is an example of an acrostic in English for demonstration purposes only. Let us pretend that the following names are those of your father, your grandfather, and so forth. Observe how the first letter of each name when read down the list combines to read, "JESUS IS LORD!"

J ohn
E dward
S am
U lster
S tan
I an
S hawn
L aurel
O liver
R obert
D ean

The bible acrostic is composed the same way.

--- The Two Acrostic Bible Codes Reveal Design

Both genealogies begin with Adam. As already said, the acrostic within the godly line of Seth reads, "I will forgive my enemies, having compassion, forgiving those made from dust a second time." 

And the acrostic within the ungodly line of Cain reads, "I will choose a circumcised people for myself (i.e., Jews), even various peoples for myself (i.e., Gentiles)."

Both the subject matter and sentence structure of the codes demonstrate skillful design.

The subject matter reveals design:

The acrostics allude to events recorded in the bible that occurred at the time of Adam, Cain, and Abraham, and similarly the acrostic itself spans from Adam, (to Cain), to Abraham. This demonstrates careful planning and is evidence that the code is not the product of mere random chance.

The following are the key words that link this bible code to Adam, Cain, and Abraham.

1. The bible says that Adam was made from dust and the code refers to one made from dust. Adam was also in need of forgiveness when he fell into transgression, and forgiveness is the theme of the code.

2. The bible says that Cain "rose up" against his brother and killed him, (Gen. 4:8-10). The same Hebrew word for "rising up" (to kill) is also used in the code when it refers to the "one rising up against me". The theme of forgiveness also links the code to Cain. (Compare Gen. 4:24 with Matt. 18:21,22.)

3. The bible says that Abraham is called the father of the circumcised (i.e., Israel), and also the father of nations, (Rom. 4:10-12. See also Gen. 17:15-16). This agrees with the code, "I will choose a circumcised people for myself (i.e., Israel), even various peoples for myself (i.e., Gentiles)."

The sentence structure reveals further design:

The code uses words that are synonymous with one another and also it contains two powerful play on words. For example, the Hebrew word for forgiveness also means, "to lift up". Thus the code may also read (and note the play on words), "I will lift up those who have risen up against me, having compassion, lifting up those (laid low in) the dust a second time!"

This acrostic contains just six Hebrew words, yet of these six words, four refer to height (high or low), and three refer to mercy in the form of "forgiveness" or "compassion". (The word "forgiveness" is repeated twice and can also mean, "to lift up".) One would not expect to find appropriate synonyms, antonyms, and homonyms within just six Hebrew words if the acrostic was mere random chance. However, not only do both acrostics proclaim Divine intention, but they also allude to key events in the lives of the very ones who begin and end the genealogies in which they are encoded.

--- How Should This Code be Interpreted?

We will answer this question more fully in the last part of this series. Briefly speaking, the bible code is a prophecy that a descendent of Abraham would come who would undo the damage of the first Adam by bringing about reconciliation between God and men through the forgiveness of sins. Moreover, the meaning of the names in the genealogy also agrees with this interpretation.

As said at the beginning of this article, the first 10 names from Adam to Noah contain a secret prophecy. Stringing together the meaning of each name in their chronological order unravels this prophecy. The next article in this series will demonstrate that by continuing to read the remaining 60 names up to the birth of Christ a lengthy and most remarkable prophecy is formed. Like the acrostic, this prophecy also alludes to key events in the history of man except that this prophecy stretches all the way from Adam to Jesus and culminates with the coming of the Kingdom of God.


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Here is the finished product pretty well. The first two lines are the acrostic and the rest is the names code. They both go together.

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Meaning-of-Names Code from Adam to Jesus

When one chooses a name for their child in our culture the meaning of that name usually has little or no significance to the parent. But in bible days the meaning of a name was very important. Sometimes the bible itself informs the reader what a name means. Such renowned persons as Adam, Cain, Seth, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob (and all 12 sons), Perez, Peleg and Jesus all have the meaning of their name explicitly given in the bible. Their names tell the story of why or how they were born.

Some students of the bible have wondered whether these names (with their collective meanings) might not be strung together in succession to tell some larger story. For if the meaning of these names do indeed tell a story then this would imply that God Himself has arranged these names providentially throughout the ages. This would help prove that the genealogy of Christ is of divine origin in spite of the tacit denials by such popular books as "The Da Vinci Code".

Already there have been attempts to string together the first 10 names in the bible from Adam to Noah. In general, this is what the first 10 names of the bible can read when each name is rendered one after the other in succession.

"A man is appointed, a man of sorrow. The Blessed God shall come down teaching that His death shall bring the grieving rest."

But the meaning of some of these first 10 names remain in doubt. And regrettably, this is true also of the next 10 names from Noah to Abraham. But all is not lost. Fortunately, the next 40 names after that, as recorded in Matthew's genealogy of Abraham to Jesus, are reasonably certain. And the meaning of these latter 40 names support the renderings of the first 20 names.

The following is the resulting prophecy that appears when all 60 names from Adam to Jesus are sequentially read.

The first two lines are the acrostic and the rest is the names code. They both go together.

I will forgive my enemies, having compassion, forgiving those who are but stubble and dust a second time."
"I will choose a circumcised people (i.e., Jews), even many peoples for myself (i.e., Gentiles)."

The God-Man will be brought forth (into this sin-cursed world) who will instruct unruly men {like Cain}. This man of God will be smitten to death, but his death will be in the will of God. People will give up hope as grief overwhelms them.

But, the God-Man is appointed to save, this man of sorrow. The Glory of God shall come down from heaven teaching men that by means of His death He shall comfort those who mourn.

{After the flood} The fame of the stronghold of Babylon, and sorrow, extend their borders like a plant beyond the place of division (at the Tower of Babel). -- But I will make Babylon fade away!
A friend also branches out {like Abraham}, snorting with fury! The Glorious Father --- the Father of many people --- laughs (triumphantly) as He outwits (his enemy)!

A mighty One {like Moses} struggles (in prayer)! A righteous Prince sees God! Praise bursts forth and makes an opening into a place surrounded by a high wall, there the people of the Prince (are safe) from {Balaam} the false prophet. They are clothed with strength!

For there exists a Servant, one beloved and peaceable. He will extend the territory of the people {like King David and Solomon}.

My Father is the Lord, the healer of him whom the Lord judged and then raised up {as He did David when he fled from Saul}. The Lord has taken hold (of me) and the Lord is strong! Mighty is the Lord! My strength and help are in the Lord! The Lord is perfect! I took hold of the strength of the Lord and it made (me) forget (my misery). (I am) the Master Builder whom the Lord God healed, whom the Lord raised up, and whom the Lord appointed, upheld, and will uphold.

I have asked God about the ransomed of the Lord --- those exiled in Babylon. My Father is awesome! God will raise up a helper, the Just One will the Lord raise up! God is my praise! God is the One who helps. May the Gift of Jacob increase in greatness, for God is with us! --- the Messiah and Savior of those called out (of Babylon).

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Miki
The Lord has taken hold (of me) and the Lord is strong! Mighty is the Lord! My strength and help are in the Lord! The Lord is perfect! I took hold of the strength of the Lord and it made (me) forget (my misery).

Thanks Dean..

The Lord is Perfect!

We are not...
Shekel
QUOTE(Miki @ Mar 8 2007, 12:00 PM) [snapback]104699[/snapback]

The Lord has taken hold (of me) and the Lord is strong! Mighty is the Lord! My strength and help are in the Lord! The Lord is perfect! I took hold of the strength of the Lord and it made (me) forget (my misery).

Thanks Dean..

The Lord is Perfect!

We are not...


Yes indeed!

And thank you Miki for your encouragement and prayers. smile.gif
Humble Bob
The Lord makes people perfect...pretty amazing too! smile.gif
Shekel
QUOTE(Humble Bob @ Mar 8 2007, 01:17 PM) [snapback]104708[/snapback]

The Lord makes people perfect...pretty amazing too! smile.gif


Yes, all is true in Him. We are perfect in Him.
Miki
His banner over me is Love...

Love covers a multitude of sins.
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