Last Sunday theft in my house.I am not affected by things I lost.But one of my friend asked me tp pray strongly.She feels I am not prayering properly.Does it means really that?.I always used to pray.This incident really makes me worry whether GOD is away from me?.Please anyone give me some answer why it happens like this?.

"My child, Condemning voices abound, and you have wallowed in more than your share of condemnation. Condemnation is satanic, no matter the source. Even Christian people can wield a big stick in judgment, and I am not pleased with those of you who sit in Judgment of others! Remember that love is the true spiritual warfare, and the fire of the tongue is is earthly, sensual, devilish!

Conviction on a specific point is by My Holy Spirit but the blanket of condemnation is always evil! The condemnation that you are not good enough, never read the bible enough, can't pray enough, don't understand enough, and so on is always and at every turn the work of the enemy of your souls!I will lay out my inner desire to you ward. I love the spirit you carry, as it contains the Holiest of all! Nevertheless, I often see a grief as I hear your words or speak forth to you. I am seeing it now, and it is a burden to My spirit. Your emotions are vexed by issues of your own in which you struggle privately at times. It is the quiet suffering of knowing that your Adamic man is not dead, for all the hoopla otherwise. Behold sin lieth at the door, as I once told Cain!

You often place yourself in the line of fire and actively engage the enemy, yet you come away with a woundedness which is hard to forebear. As you see the intrusions to My way of peace, I would that you briefly admonish others by My word and let go of the reins as it is I that will either edify, exhort or comfort! It is fruitless to parry with the gainsayers in your own strength! Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offenses contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. Guard your own heart to that end as well. You are kindred with My Spirit, as I fellowship with your joys and sufferings.

My child, be careful indeed as to who you allow to speak into your life! There are deceiving spirits at work, and many do fall prey to them. My will is for you to hear from Me! Simply accept My leading as something good and true and positive in a Spirit led utterance. It is by faith! You must not overflow with any natural conviction until a confirmation comes! For all My promises are yes and amen unto the glory of God! Call unto Me and I will answer thee! My people shall receive a word directly to them even though it is also hanging out there for the whole world to see, for My light shines in darkness and the darkness perceives it not!!

My truth is louvred to the generation which receives it, for every generation has special circumstances and My word is quick and powerful, even to the dividing asunder of both soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow. Always wait upon Me for a confirming word! Your spirit is such that you need constant reassurance, but this does not trouble Me, for My sheep are My delight, and My flocks are My pleasure, and I will not fail to sustain anyone of My fold. I uphold you through adversity with affirmation beyond reproach. I will speak to you through every available voice! A word spoken in the street by another party may be quickened in you. A billboard along the freeway may say just what you need to hear, and My Spirit will quicken you to know it is Him speaking. A passage you inadvertently flip your bible open to may raise up off the page and display itself powerfully! I will instruct thee and teach thee in the way which thou shalt go: I will guide thee with mine eye! Son, thou art ever with me, and all that I have is thine! Ask counsel, I pray thee, of Me, that you may know whether the way which you go shall be prosperous. I shall answer thee great and mighty things, saying, Go in peace: before the Lord is your way wherein ye go. Let My peace rule in your hearts, and be ye thankful!

The judgment of your fruit, which has been being squeezed as you grow in faith through trials, is critical to the end that you may appear to fall short of the standards of others. But, oh for the righteous fruit of a believer in how you externally judge! See rather the inner growth and the fruit forming to perfection! Have understanding that I am bringing each one of you down an ever narrowing path! Others may be just further back to the open end of the funnel than you are, where I allow them more latitude than you yourselves experience. Their fruit is greener by your standards, but they are still perfect to the point they have reached in Me!

Do not let anyone steal the joy of the trip you are on, even though you must experience some things, including shame at times! It humbles you to know you are so totally Dependent upon Me!

Do not constantly invite opinion and voice, but never quit dealing with persons in ministry to their needs. speak forth without offences being taken! Your commandment is to not become offended for the "persecution" you receive for My witness and doctrine! You are children of God and as such I have promised to care for you. Much more than an earthly parent ever could, for I am the Lord!"

Thank you so much for throwing light to my spirit.I consider your reply as most precious words. I will show your message to my husband too. Praise the Lord!!!.

Give me a break. Who do you think you are fervent,
Do you think the Spirit runs hotter in you than in this ladies friend? You think the Spirit is such a flame in you that you are God and that your words are God's words. I rebuke you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and instruct you to cease speaking as if you are God.

What a disgrace to claim that a friend encouraging another friend to pray more strongly is a condemning satanic spirit. The robbed woman was pricked in the conscience to pray more and get close to God until your false words came to steer her away from a wise path. Who knows what damage you have done to the relationship between this woman and her friend.

Are you saying that the Lord does not build a hedge around his people and guard them from harm? So why did he not protect the womans home in this case? You have offered no answers as to why her house was invaded, just soft comforting words of icing sugar. You say Jer 8:11 Peace, peace; when there is no peace.

You are a false prophet Fervent. Do you not fear the scripture Jer 23:38 Ye shall not say, The burden of the Lord;

Your words are like grease, preaching soft words to allay the alarm of God's people.

Do not listen to the oil of the false prophets, 'geethasasivarnan' but turn to the Lord with all the fervency you can muster, and all of your house.

Do you not also fear the Lord who chastens those who he loves. Your friends advice was wise and I advise you also to follow your friends advice. Do not follow the first word which you hear, even if it sounds like the word of the Lord. Test every prophet with the study of the scriptures and advice from a multitude of counsellors especially people such as myself with 20 years as a mature Christian worthy in the sight of God and skilled in the scriptures. Talk to your local pastor and above all avoid the words of pillow prophets whose words drip like syrup and make little gods of themselves by assuming the very identity and name of God.

Edited to seperate the word of God in scripture Jer 23:38 from my words in case anybody might become confused which is which.

Well, this word does say that condemning voices abound. They abound to every good work as a matter of fact....A prophet freind of mine has told me of his days of test and trial ( a mere 21 years of it) with accusations of this nature as well, and I myself have heard it all from A to Z... so in my frame of reference, the prognostications of "Eil Kneivel' against me are from the largess of a soul that knows no bounds, speaking from the pew of religiosity, standing against what they do not understand and making assumptions upon the personhood and spirit of one who will risk the call to discipleship in a gifting which is not without scriptural backing. In a dozen years of such exchanges I have been allowed to stand and having done all to stand, even amidst the adversity of those who choose to ignore that for all of their contradictions there are many more affirmations, of good and not of evil. ( two just today) I will not sway in the contemporary situation and will deflect the slings and arrows of the religious spirit which saw Stephen go down under the weight of stones ...stones thrown not by a worldly crowd, but by the very religion which claimed to know God along with faithful Abraham.....

Co 4:1 Therefore seeing we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not; 2Co 4:2 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God

check out Jude:24,25

"Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling,
And to present you faultless before the presence of
His glory with exceeding joy,

To God our Saviour, who alone is wise,
Be glory and majesty, Dominion and power,
Both now and forever.
Amen

Ephesians 4:15 (New American Standard Bible)

15but speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in all aspects into Him who is the head, even Christ,

I still believe that we are suppose to speak to each other in love. I have learned this the hard way on this forum.
If I snub you, you will always look at my name with a cold feeling in your heart.Nothing I say will be able to reach you, even if I speak the truth, it will pass you by. We look at somebodies fruit. and here its possible , because a lot of us have been here for so long, that we know each other and love each other. We disagree
...hey..look at one of my good friends on the forum...dear Miki (hi Miks ) we disagree on most everything.But we love each other.
Yea, I know all about the differences in opinion about prophetic words, but that is not what I am talking about. Maybe , we should take the Lord seriously when He tells us to speak the truth in love.

The Holy Spirit brings conviction to a heart, if there has been a wrong that was committed. We are never told to condemn each other, even with the purpose of correcting each other. Condemnation is not found in Christ, only conviction and that I cannot dish out.
So is God sovereign? Does He bring a situation to us?If so, then all things will work out very good for those who love Him. Everything that happens to us has a purpose: to bring Christ in us to maturity.
love C

Hi C..Hi Larry... I'm not getting in on this one.

However.. We should pray and study the word. The Lord will reveal himself to us and then we won't have to depend on a word from others but will have our own. This is a safer way.

Thankyou for using your own words and for not trying to pretend that you are God.

If a friend corrects another friend it is for his benefit so that he turns back to the path of righteousness. But the false spirit of the world calls correction, rebuke and reproof as condemnation as if the corrector is throwing the corrected bodily into the lake of fire themselves. The friend of the robbed gave a mild correction to the robbed and as a result fervent came down on the friend like a ton of bricks. If anyone is condemning here it is Fervent who first raised the accusation of condemnation.

The Godly course of correcting a brother is well documented in the scripture
Ps 141:5 ¶ Let the righteous smite me; it shall be a kindness: and let him reprove me; it shall be an excellent oil
Pr 9:8 Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee.
Pr 15:31 ¶ The ear that heareth the reproof of life abideth among the wise.
Pr 15:32 ¶ He that refuseth instruction despiseth his own soul: but he that heareth reproof getteth understanding.
Pr 17:10 ¶ A reproof entereth more into a wise man than an hundred stripes into a fool.
Pr 27:6 Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.
Re 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
Proverbs 13:1 A wise son heareth his father's instruction: but a scorner heareth not rebuke.
Proverbs 27:5 Open rebuke is better than secret love.
Proverbs 28:23 He that rebuketh a man afterwards shall find more favour than he that flattereth with the tongue.
Ecclesiastes 7:5 It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise, than for a man to hear the song of fools.

James 5:19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him; 20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.


But the false spirit of the enemy does not want anybody to be corrected. He wants every christian brother to keep his silence and let his brother to continue to stray along the path that leads to death.

I rebuke fervent in the strongest terms for assuming the words of God to speak as if he were God and for calling Godly correction between Christian brethren satanic condemnation. I rebuke him not so that he will go to the lake of fire but so that he will change his heart and mind back to the Lord.

I also rebuke in the strongest terms any attempt to paint rebukes, correction and reproof given in love for the saving of a brother as condemnation.

Religion is fear based and sin conscious ....

One thing about a prophetic word is it has to be believed to be seen. If not, then it has no effect, for in the kingdom of God believing is seeing. Anything that is not of faith is sin. Uncertainty is sin, and God has never doubted His word. Rom 14:23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because [he eateth] not of faith: for whatsoever [is] not of faith is sin.

Ultimately it is still up to us individuals to accept or reject this word of the LORD. His spirit always testifies to our spirit...

These things I write unto you that your joy may be full. I am making known to you the ways of life; thou shalt be full of joy with thy countenance. This is the message which I declare to you, that God is light and in Him is no darkness at all. In the very Spirit of meekness I come, for I am meek and lowly in heart.

My power is commensurate with My love, and I am moving to empower and to equip those who walk in the path of love that I have chosen for them. This path may have the seemings of being totally obtuse to the normal expectations of the heart and mind. As I have said, My ways are not your ways.

There stand among you many vessels of My sovereign mercy which do indeed have the testimony of Jesus Christ. This testimony is not a dogmatic interpretation of My word, for My word is quick and powerful and louvered to the times and to the generations that receive it in the timelessness of truth. You are come to the kingdom for such a time as this.

I am bringing about the last outpouring of My grace and mercy upon all who will be humble to receive it. I have said from the beginning of these last days that the waterspout of My Spirit is available to refresh the thirsty, and the bread of life that I am to the hungry will satisfy the hunger which resides even within My sanctified ones.

Ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full. I am calling upon My chosen vessels to walk the higher path and to talk the higher praises of the Father who has great delight in you. I am the bridge that has crossed the gulf between you and the Father of all living.

These things have I spoken unto you, that My joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full. I shall show you plainly of the Father. The Father Himself loveth you, because ye have loved Me, and have believed that I came out from God. The trying of your faith is much more precious than of gold that perishes, though it be tried with fire. It will be found unto praise and honor and glory at My appearing.

You have not in this generation seen Me, yet you love Me, and believe Me and you rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory: receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls. I have many things to say unto you. I shall come unto you, and speak face to face, that your joy may be full. Make ready the bride in the bridechamber, for the worthy ones are readied unto all adversity and unto all eagerness of spirit to perform My will and to be worthy of an invitation to My wedding feast. And Lo, I come quickly and hasten My word to perform it. Have an eye and an ear to this call to joy and to preparedness. Even so, Amen."

>>>Rev 19:10. And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

Psalm 35

"The wilderness and the solitary place shall be glad for them; and the desert shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose.1

It shall blossom abundantly, and rejoice even with joy and singing; the glory of Lebanon shall be given unto it, the excellency of Carmel and Sharon, they shall see the glory of the Lord, and the excellency of our God. 2

Strengthen ye the weak hands, and confirm the feeble knees. 3

Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you.4

Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ear of the deaf shall be unstopped.5

Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert.6

And the parched ground shall become a pool, and the thirsty land springs of water: in the habitation of dragons, where each lay, shall be grass with reeds and rushes. 7

And an highway shall be there, and a way, and it shall be called The way of holiness;
the unclean shall not pass over it; but it shall be for those the wayfaring men, though fools, shall not err therein.8

No lion shall be there, nor any ravenous beast shall go up thereon, it shall not be found there; but the redeemed shall walk there;9

And the ransomed of the Lord shall return, and come to Zion with songs and everlasting joy upon their heads; they shall obtain joy and gladness, and sorrow and sighing shall flee away."10



i speak to you what a messenger once spoke to me,

"Power, power, power in the name of the Lord.

signet

The Spirit has spoken and my spirit rejoices.

blessings!

signet

There is nothing in this post which is not freely available in the words of the scripture. There is nothing meek and lowly of heart in you fervent who take upon yourself to speak the words of God. Are you Jesus? If so then speak a prophecy so that you may be tested. If your prophecy comes true then we will know that you are sent in the spirit of the Lord. In fact the Lord says he will send Elijah the prophet before the great and terrible day of the Lord to prepare his way. Why then do you not speak as Elijah or John. Instead you exalt yourself by borrowing for yourself the scripture and assuming the words as your own so that you can magnify yourself in the eyes of others. Only two prophets are mentioned which will come in the last days. They are the two witnesses. Even John the Baptist the greatest prophet born of a woman did not speak as if he were God. He deliberately said "one comes after me who I am not worthy to untie his shoelaces. Then why do you speak as if you actually are Jesus coming? Surely it says that many in the last days will come saying that I am Christ and will deceive many.

If your words are true then locate them in the scripture and provide the scripture references and present yourself as a lowly servant directing others to greater words than your own; which were spoken by great men of God the prophets and apostles of long ago.

Getting back to the original post, geethasasivarnan, sorry about your burglary and Im even more sorry that you friend came out with such garbage blaming you for not praying enough. It does make me sad when instead of offering a shoulder to cry on and a sympathetic ear, you get a superspiritual kick in the leg from someone who should know better.

Bad things happen to us, even though we are Christians. What would that person say to a murdered christian missionarys family? Oh he died because he wasnt praying enough? We are sharing this pitiful earth with non believers, satanists, murderers, drug addicts and such like. At some point our paths will cross with the likes of these and its not always going to be pleasant, we might come off worse in some situations, it happens.

I used to live in a christian familys house and 2 of the children were backslidden. One weekend the parents were away and the son brought back his friends who were smoking dope and doing all sorts of things. I stayed away that weekend but when the parents came back we all anointed the house with oil and prayer. We anointed above every door and window and prayed in every room. Why dont you do the same if it feels right? Your home has been violated so bless it!!

Take care and Gods love to you and your family xx

things just happens. everything doesnt have to do with god...

I don't want anyone to get hurted because of me...I will take all your good advice..

I certainly appreciate your intestinal fortitude in taking a stand as you see fit because if you do not stand for something you will fall for anything. There are real and vibrant promises in the Spirit being promulgated from glory to glory among us, and we are so affected by it as that it has become a consuming fire. Not a fire that leaves neither root nor branch, but rather that passionate abandonment upon the Spirit of Christ which has intimacy with this word... Psa 42:7 Deep calleth unto deep at the noise of thy waterspouts: all thy waves and thy billows are gone over me. There is one last word I truly feel led to share in this reply.

"The shakings to disturb you and to unsettle you are the Spirit's activity to demonstrate to you that in your individual and personal world, I am the One who is before all things, and it is by My Spirit, by the Word of My power that everything in your life is holding together. Without the Word of My power operating within the interior of your life, your life would be empty, dark, without form and void.

Apart from the Word of My power, there is no plan or law that can keep the outer world from spinning out of control to an utter combustion of matter to be scattered to the four winds, and except I had shown the human part of My creation divine mercies at every level, each and every element of your life would be scattered and carried away with winds until you were nothing but a hollow, empty and broken shell totally useless and without purpose.

As I wait for the day when My Son shall deliver the Kingdom and all rule and authority up to Me that I might be all in all, I am searching and seeking out a people who will be willing to be qualified as those who will even be as the Word of My power in the earth. My manifested Sons are now being prepared to answer the groaning and travail of the desperate agonizing creation enslaved to the bondages of sin, degradation, and powerless living, and the depravities of darkness.

The Word of My power through My manifested Sons is going to call forth translation and transition, and change and intervention and restoration and jubilee and liberty until the foundations are deeply laid with fair colours and the structures are fitly framed and the chaos and disorder of that one broken and peeled and scattered sees every fragment of his life brought into alignment and cohesion and wholeness of abundant life through the knowledge of My Son, the Lord Jesus Christ. He is the Living Word. He is the Word of My power. Through the manifestation of Sonship, Christ the hope of glory, the Living Word working within, the Word of My power shall come forth a new dimension that will cause new levels of order upward into Kingdom authority that shall expedite change at every level and in all realms.

It is the appointed time for change. It is the hour of transition. It is the time of divine intervention but it will not be apart from the involvement and manifestation of My Sons whom I have been long time preparing for this very day and this very hour.

When My people walking in Sonship learn to speak forth the Word of My power the powers of darkness will wilt at your feet and the principalities that prance menacingly and threatening before My people and my creation will shrink back. They will be oppressed and harassed in the same spirit of fear and trepidation they have oppressively and tauntingly terrorized My creation.

Study My word, and see if you can't find My heart even within it's pages! I am a God of reconciliation. I am a God of restoration. I am a God who brings lost sheep back to the fold, and lost sons back home to their fathers. I am the God who opens blind eyes, and unstops deaf ears. I am the God who sets the captive free and opens the doors of the prison houses. The Word of My power is the word of my passion and apart from My passion My power will not be revealed. You cannot know the Word of My power apart from knowing My heart. When you seek Me for that deeper word of life, and when you call forth that word to come up out of the depths of your being and when you are willing to allow that word to silence every other voice and message within you to find expression, you will know the creative dimension of the word of the Lord, the Word of My power.

You will know how to bring down principalities and powers and thrones and dominions. You will know how to fill in valleys and flatten mountains. You will know true salvation and true cleansing and true sanctification and true deliverance. You will know the song of the soul set free from the spirit and power of darkness and chaos to be a new world of beauty of My holiness where the Word of My power holds all things together, all things in place to the glory of God. Seek the Lord for the deeper word of Life. Seek the Lord that the Word of My power might begin to resonate with sounds of life within your own being. Don't settle for a sermon. Don't settle for a theme. Don't settle for some little homespun spiritual idea misting across your mind like a waft of sweet cotton candy... fluffy, gooey and sweet to the religious ear, but totally void and empty of the true power to save, heal, deliver, cleanse and set free. Wait on God for the deeper word. Wait on God for the word of My passion! Wait on God for My heart! Don't speak forth until you truly have working within your being the Word of My power!

Have ears to hear what the Spirit is saying. It is the day of the Word of My power. It is the day when I shall begin to openly reveal and divide between that which is soul and that which is spirit, and there shall be a clear delineation between the heart of man and the heart of God, and the one who speaks from the heart of man shall be marked as one whose words fall to the ground, but the one who speaks from the heart of God shall even be as Samuel with none of his words falling to the ground and all that he speaks shall come to pass for edification and the upholding of that which I do and create in the earth!

Be willing to get in the secret place until you know you have a true word from God, and not from your own heart. This is the admonishment and this is the exhortation of the Spirit of God, thus saith the Lord."

"The Lord taketh pleasure in them that fear him, in those that hope
in his mercy.

Praise the Lord, O Jerusalem; praise thy God, O Zion."

Psalm 147:11,12