It is not that I wish to create debate or disputes between we the children of the father, and doubt not the great book of life (bible) nor it's vital signifigance in our society, but it is the interpreted variations of the fathers word which causes me a great concern.Visited no so long ago the father unto me spoke the word of truth and it was during the periods of time he spoke unto me that his way of speech with us the children seemed to be riddles and parables with the potential of many interpretations it was when I asked for clarification because of both my lack of understanding and confusion he the father said My child listens more carefully and thee shall hear and completely understand my word and with a innocent and genuine laugh his hand he held out and said now come my child listen further my word and he continued his message unto me he spoke his word. I am rather alarmed at some of the things discussed within the forums for remarkably I understand his message more each passing day with the more I come across either by reading or seeing So I ask a simple question have we society become so set in our interpreted ways that it could blind us from the truth?

It sure seems that way, doesn't it? Don't dispair... just keep seeking the face of the Lord. He has a plan and it will be brought about no matter what. Pray for people to open their hearts to the truth. Sometimes people will hold on so tight to their interpretations that, yes, they actually block out promptings from the Holy Spirit. Only through the Holy Spirit will the heart be unlocked. Keep praying.

Welcome to the forum Guardian Of Centurian!
Many Blessings to you!
Love, Lisa

He the father also said unto me the great book of life is the way to truth for without truth there shall be no life! this is the way of truth the way of life it is thy word unto thee children the book of life is also the way of life unto the children will repeat the path of evolution flaws, land floods again which thee children suffer great sorrow and pain for they shall not fear death for I am the way of life it be thy word thee children shall enter unto the kingdom thru ******* the way unto the kingdom the path the children must make it is this path with faith they'll take this is the truth of thy word be heard my child .. Could the interpreted various versions printed today could it be this that is truly mis guiding us from the true meaning of his word?

Thank you Roxygal and may the father guide you to unto the faith unto his kingdom all the children are welcome those with the way of truth and who accept life, I believe this true but the fathers message unto he spoke was much more in depth and important than interpretation but very much involves the matter at hand. If you can understand the contradiction in what I am trying to say.

faith unto you there shall be!
My fellow sister.

howdy....just letting you know I'm working on your stuff - I wasn't sure you got my emails. And - although being challenged physically when I'm doing the stuff - it is becoming easier to uderstand the message.

Email me and I'll send you what I've done so far - to make sure i'm not losing the meaning.

Forgive me, but are YOU sure you know what you are saying? I certainly don't. Care to elaborate for us slower thinking folks? TY.

Good afternoon my Sister and Brother,
I have recieved your emails and responded to those i got, Have been so tired lately one has no idea of the depth of larthargicness I'm experiencing physically and mentally. I have written more of the word he the father spoke unto me, have been rather conflicted once written on paper and then given the chance to re-read whats written about the preparedness of our fellow sisters and brothers, I have said before I am and Live not without sin, why me well i cant answer that only that i throughout life have shared and felt the pain felt yet not felt or heard by many I guess this he did speak of unto myself during the time we spent together however he the father so confident and sure that we will hear and act lik there is no doubt in existence that we shall not let him down is confident that we the children are prepared and ready yet I share not his faith regarding we his children for IT HAS been so long it be truth that he give us the children true contact unto him that yes i have been asked to accomplish a great task but it is the timing and magnitude of the task that has been asked that i fear failing.

If you have a task for the Lord, then you better prepare yourself, and I mean thouroughly. This mumbo jumbo stuff isn't from God, I can tell you that. As for your calling, yes, you have one.

Yo Barnabas.....I think - and he hasn't corrected me yet - that his first language isn't English. When he is in pain from his tumour, his english skills are somewhat......challenging.... Plus - he's like many many many people I've seen over the years on the internet and forgets a bit about punctuation which can make things more difficult.

Gee - English is my first language and when I'm tired or in pain even I'm challenged to string a couple of sensible sentences together

Yeahme too, sorry Gaurdian.

"OKAY" for those who have no idea what I Speak off I shal explain it in English Terms, I want not to cause conflict with any Brother or Sister and I am not with out SIN when the father came intially i fear him speaking however soon became at ease, He spoke of the book of life " I BELIEVE ( my Interpretation ) HE TALKS ABOUT WHAT WE CALL THE BIBLE"He also speaks of babylon unto one must pass to enter the kingdom however he also spoke of babylon on the lands becoming corrupted and falling ( my Interpretation ) Babylon is refering to the church or building which lay in the centre of the kingdom which we enter when entering his kingdom and he I thinks he refers to the decaying image of the church and its structure. "He also spoke of the Book of life as being ( my Interpretation ) both a reference to history and to the future guide to actions and events, he spoke that with time and greed man and seed has managed to manipulate his word to commit murder upon fellow brothers and sisters and that it is not until the children recieve the message which they will deny intially but with faith be guided unto truth is the way of life.He spoke of tribulation 4unto7 leaves 3 ( my Interpretation ) I believe this to be Iraq he refers to, Is not this the fourth year of the war in Iraq and I believe the warning he speaks of will occur in no less and no more than the end of several years therofre only three more years " THE REAPEATING FLAW" "FLOOD" he speaks of ( my Interpretation ) is Global warming and floods upon the land we will have no choice but to suffer! for we not learn from the events of history and those before us but continuiously repeat our mistakes

And Iam in pain too today and tired!

IS that easier to understand?





No problem I can understand the confusing nature of my writing it is the lack of correcting that can be confsing, I appologise for this however so much and so little time remaining.. anxious as well!

Agreed. I do feel the urgency as well, and it is nice to see I am not alone.

Excuse my quick response - children are goin gnuts - daddy's home from work and they've decided that loud and obnoxious is the way to be....

What you said Guardian - I believe that is similar - or at least - not to far off what my interpretation of Babylon was.....it took me a while before I understood it.....but after speaking my interpretation to a friend who is also a a christian - she said - okay - I can see what he's getting at now.....I'm glad Iwasn't too far off the track.

This is waht happens when you pray for clarity!!!!woohoo!

Your message will be heard.

The truth of word,the father shall guide those true of faith unto the path of babylonwhich we must pass unto the kingdom we must pass. My sister I'm so glad that your desire to clarify with other sisters and brothers helps guide your true faith for it is thus alone i fear of failing and that is not enabling the truth word he spoke unto me to be heard for if every sister and brother heard and saw what i encountered i believe that they truely would understand the urgency and importance but it be the time between contact that i fear will mis guide our fellow brothers and sisters. I remeber not long back you stated Babylon gave you great concern in meaning but i am glad your path is true with faith and truth the way of life.

Please allow me to recommend a serie's on VHS from the 1970's called Focus on the Family. Not the radio series now, although same people, but the series from the 70's, including "dealing with the strong willed child", ect..

It has one on marriage. Dr James Dobson became famous because of the series I am recommending. The seven tape series taught me how to raise my children, and in my house when Big Daddy called a name or names, everybody frooze.

Don't let the inmates run the assylum was my motto. The wife sure loved it because all she had to do was yell for me and they'd straighten up, (for the most part).

To this day my three children, 27, 25, and 22 and I are very close, and were then too. If you are going to be firm with them, you also have to balance it out the other way with love, instruction, some smootching, well, allot of smoothching, and always be building them up along the way.

I could start a thread just on Parenting and talk for days. Anyways, I digress

It's alright Barnabas. THey get like that at that hour anyway - I - it is my fault - exacerbated the bad behaviour by letting the 3 year old have some bitter lemon cordial - which has a preservative in it - not to mention extra sugar - which sends him totally bonkers. The 2 year old just follows his older brother. He calls him the Giggle Boy - which is in part a reference to the Wiggles, and in part a reference to the fact that he is very funny and makes him laugh A LOT! e's a character - a personality bigger than he is. Adorable - dreadfully naughty and a major hand ful. But - if I keep him of additives as much as I can - his behaviour is no worse than the average 3 year old.

My sister beware preservative 282 this alters childrens behaviour like no other!I actually as a youngster had to have Bickfords Lime cordial which i became rather fond off I must admit!

It is bickfords! They didn't have the lime - so I got the bitter lemon - all for me - an act of PURE SELFISHNESS - sometimes I just need something 'scrapey' in my mouth..... :)Mr 3 likes it some of the time - Mr 2 kind of likes it - if he's thirsty enough he'll drink it - it's been really hot here lately and it was amatter of trying to give them something with 'flavour' that will help keep them hydrated. I water it down really well....but it doesn't take much preservative - and it does have a preservative number 223.....plus announces 'added sulphites' and sugar is the main ingrediet - even over lemon juice or water!

Babylon is confusion. Are you saying that we have to come out of Babylon? Or are you saying that everyone must pass through Babylon? How can those who are in confusion pass through it unless it is that they come out of it? You can also drop the old English accent the lord doesn't speak Old English anymore. Nobody speaks old English anymore unless they are trying to sound religious and trying to sound like the king James bible.

Blast it - I can't find where I had written about babylon. I wrote it down! and now I can't find it.

My understanding - or example I used was that consider the church as Babylon POST getting God mad and him hitting them with multiple languages. (Please bear in mind here that It's early and I was up every couple of hours last night so this may get confusing. )

You have all these denominations....catholics, anglican/episcopalian, baptists, presbytarians, lutherans, calvinists - you name the Christ based mainstream churches - I can't remember them all - PLUS high and low church stuff. At the core of their belief is Jesus. Who He was, Who He is and Who He will be. All that stuff.

But - and a good 'religion watcher' will be able to do this - put them all in a room together and you will see the differences in what they believe re the scriptures. There's actually a joke that goes around about how the various denominations pray - the differences between them.

So essentially, if you then look at the hidden bits of the church - the corruption, what goes on behind closed doors, the jockeying for position in particular at the Vatican....the 'don't believe a word (for example)' the Calvinists say - they've got it wrong, the hypocrisy....then the yucky bits - that have been coming out recently with priests etc raping, child abuse and general abusing of power...you basically have a Babylon as the 'confused' city.

Not only can the Christian denominations NOT agree on theology - they can't - or refuse to understand, the other denomination's theology. In essence again, they're confused.

For many many people - the church is the FIRST contact point for people when it comes to Christ. But when such a bad example is set by those of us already within the church.....and some of us are there....No wonder people are confused and avoiding the church. And even if they are willing to try and walk through the confusion because they WANT to know Christ, the chances of them being able to take that final step through the gateway that leads to Heaven......the same as any of us......are reduced because there is no real clarity in the entire Christian faith. Jesus can get lost in the 'mumbo jumbo' and legalisms that their eyes are distracted from the prize. Going to church to worship becomes a 'ritual'. So many people profess to be christians when what they are is pew warmers. They show none of the warmth of a christian (I always see christians as 'warm people' in their daily lives. For every other day of the week - plus the hours before and after church...they live quite firmly in the world.

So - this is my example and understanding of babylon. The church - babylon is the portal we must go through. Babylon can also be called - again metaphorically - The World....for which the meaning is clear. The church lays within the world.....and within the church is like another babylon.....you come out of the world, into the church and on to heaven. essentially.

My fellow sister WELL DONE! Babylon is unto the path into the kingdom, When the texts even ancient mention babylon it is reffering to a Structure of worship ( BUILDING ) essentially the church, belief is irrelivant for we all must enter the kingdom through babylon is truth the way of life! It is time that We the children start seeing ourselves for exactly that the fathers children, Godsloft you seem eager to be right with overwhelming skepticism of the word of our fellow brothers and sisters. The father never changes his word, the word of truth unto his kingdom we all shall enter for its babylon unto his kingdom we all must pass and GODSLOFT? When your time to enter the kingdom come near dont try but let your faith and trust lead you on the path.

I am here to make the path straight. You need to come out of Babylon. Religious babel is not from God. Gods words never change but the languages do. And like I said no one speaks old English anymore. God won't tell you something in the likeness of mans folly.

MM, excellent post. Is the Catholic (Universal) Church the great whore in Revealation? I don't know. Could be. I sway for yes with an asterick, meaning I am not totally convinced, and this is about as far I I wish to go down that road.

As for the Protestants, some of the Biggies are the Baptist, Assemblies, Pentecostal, Lutherun, Faith Free Evangelicals, COC, United COC, and Methodist to name a few. Within these cirlces are Charismatics (Pentcostals and Assmblies), practicing and teaching and preaching the "Spiritual Gifts".

Some believe in infant Baptism (Lutheruns), some believe in emersion, some in sprinkling, some Splashing, and Faith Free will accept all three.

Some believe in a closed communion, some open. Some do it quarterly, some every Sunday.


Baptism some believe is necessary to be saved. Others teach it is an act of Obedience but not neccssary for Salvation...we do it because the Lord said so. Some Baptise in the name of Jesus (UPC and COC), the rest in the name of the Father Son and Holy Spirit.

On and on we could go. The one core belief that a high percentage of the above mentioned believes is Jesus Christ is the Son of God, born of the virgin Mary, was Crucified for our sins, died and rose from the dead, and in order to be saved you must acknowledge you are a sinner, repent from the depths of your broken and contrite heart, and ask Jesus to be the Lord of your life the rest of your days.

So yes the protestants within our own circle believe many diferent ways, but the above paragraph unites us in THE most important belief the Bible writes about.

One Father Son and Holy Spirit. Practising in diferent ways, but believeing the one most important thing, and that is Jesus is Lord!

The best condensed version I could do off the cuff in trying to show diferent beliefs within the Protestent Demoination, but also a unitied belief as well.

good job!

Godsloft I am not religious or wish to preach to you, Until 3 weeks ago Life was a casual Sin daily and who cared? not I or really truth spoken neither would have you. He came he spoke many times over a week, I ask you to think about what your saying and what I speak and Deeply analyze the words within the words (ie KISS ) it!(KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID) learnt that 1 in school and it is not guessing it is not deciet but truth of word spoken unto thee and my friend I ask you this, when does the AGED get YOUNGER? do they? or vise versa in life it is truth the younger get older!You are not without faith my brother I guess those who allow the seed to grow strong are either too arrogant or blind or just lack of willingness to see the truth.

Barnabas, I agree with Signet. Great job!
And yes we are united if we believe Jesus is Lord.
love,
rosie

Good grief! You mean to say you actually understood what I wrote???? I must be getting better at explaining myself! Either that of you guys are lacking some sleep!

Seriously though. Who can say whether or not God 'speaks' old English. He certainly speaks Russian, Hebrew, spanish, italian, greek....He can speak in any way He pleases...He is God. And quite frankly - having read some of the Words my husband received from Him a few years ago - He speaks how He speaks to whomever because of that person's expectations. What my husband wrote down was very much along similar lines as Isaiah and Jeremiah in language....and there were a few ( from what I recall) 'Old English' terms thrown in there. I used to get mighty cheesed and highly skeptical reading 'alleged prophecies from God' because they didn't SOUND to me like they should. It took me a while to realise that because I'd grown up with the KJV - old english style - that's how I expected these messages to sound. Even today - when someone reads a verse from a NIV - one I remember from childhood - I remember it as the way KJV has it written down....and I get seriously confused and have to recite it in the KJV way in my head to make it sound right.

And ultimately - it will all come down to the final 30 seconds of the match as to what you truly believe. If what was prophesied by all people who have claimed to have a word from God was real or not. A prophet is only a prophet when things come to pass - up until then - they're a nutcase. So - it's up to you whether or not you feel God gave the message to Freddy Jones down the street or a hard night on the booze. Do you believe that Betty Cartwright spoke to God and He told her she was going to get up in church and sing the hallelujah chorus? Or was she just daydreaming that that was what she wanted. Do you believe that God told me to wear my pyjama's to church???? It's a question you'll have to ask HIm when you meet Him.

I did by the way - to what we call Cafe Comfort - held once a month on a sunday night at the church, where we have sandwiches and coffee and cakes for a minimal fee - which goes towards the youth of our church and their activities.

...if God told me to wear pj's to church...i certainly would...

for He may have spoken a word to someone else and that very
confirmation may have been those tired out slippers on my feet...

and once, the Lord had me go buy towels to take to a prayer
meeting...so I bought the big one and two of the smaller ones,
and a washcloth, white, and put them in a blue box.

it was the very first time I had been to this prayer meeting...and
i figured it was to be a nice gift to the house...

as the teaching came out...my heart began to pound...teaching
that Jesus came...washing the feet of the disciples...

i knew what was coming and asked for hot water and a large bowl...
i approached the associate pastor...with the box that i had already
given him...and I opened it with the towels...and washed his feet...

we all cried...tears of joy and amazement...

so...if its slippers, or a football...i just do it...and for those that
understand what i am saying you will rejoice...for those that don't
they won't...

blessings,
signet

No one speaks old English in the world today except those who try to sound important in the flesh by trying to sound like old testament prophets. The fact is that even the old testament prophets didn't speak old English. If the Lord delivered a message in another language why would anyone translate it into a language that no one speaks any longer? God is not the author of confusion, man is.