STRONG DELUSION

The traditional teachings of those teachers who preceded the Jewish leaders in Yeshua’s time also interpreted the scriptures to fit their hopes and desires and they DID NOT WANT to recognize the time of their visitation by their only true Messiah during his ‘first coming’.

Their hopes and desires overshadowed the TRUE INTERPRETATION of scripture, because they wanted a Messiah who would come as a conquering earthly and political King, NOT THE SON OF GOD- COME IN THE FLESH!

A earthly deliverer, in the likeness of Moses, was all they needed, someone who would lead them out of their bondage to Rome. Truly, their hopes and desires blinded their eyes to the reality of God’s Word made flesh, Yeshua the Messiah!

My question, is the so called “church” today guilty of doing the same, interpreting scripture by our hopes and desires of WHAT WE WANT the scriptures to say, instead of the harsh reality of counting down a ‘2300 day’ prophecy that is 76% completed!

Has it got so strong that we really do not want to look up as ‘our Redemption’ draws near or not to be the ‘blessed is he’ that comes to the 1335th day, on September 30, 2008.

Not even knowing that we are doing the exact same thing that the traditional teachings caused those even following Yeshua, to miss the time of their visitation at his ‘first coming’.

We have fell for a ‘strong delusion” of lies today that have so permeated our minds that we just can’t break away, not knowing that they will snare many of us in the day of sudden destruction.

Giving Him the glory an Ezekiel 33;6 watching one REPENT the Kingdom of God is at hand make your election SURE

I completely and wholeheartedly agree with you. This is utterly true and can obviously and often be seen on this WEB site with those delusional and fanatical Bible-thumpers reinterpreting scripture according to their very own hopeful desires and their warped fairytale fantasy wishful thinking mentality in the very Face of God's harsh true and tangibly evidential realities, yet they willfully prefer to believe the candy-coated Lie as the Lord had said of them, "I will send a delusion so that they will believe a lie,"... like the proverbial ostrich with its head buried obsessive-compulsively in the Bible, which has become their "First Love" over Christ Himself, unbeknownst that the Dragon is about to crush and devour them, these self-proclaimed “Elect of the Scriptures” have unwittingly become the “elect that shall be deceived”, if it were possible. And they divide and isolate themselves OUT of the world in absolute defiance of God’s Word, “You are IN the world and you are not of it,” perverting this to be reinterpreted as “You are NOT in the world and you are not of it.” Hence, they FAIL to be the Light and the Salt IN the world, and in the midst of the Darkness, for they have retreated from the world for their own selfish sake and selfish desire. And these are also the ones who desire the Day of the Lord not heeding Amos’ warning, “Do not desire the day of the Lord, for it is a day of darkness and not light.” And it is these who will be transported in a great mystery to the “Outer Darkness” devoid of the Presence of God, for they did not stand as Light in the midst of the earthly darkness, but fled from it.

THE SEVEN THUNDERS please read this scripture and answer my questions after the scripture.

1 Corinthians 2
4 And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power,
5 that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.

1. To how many people did you demonstrate the Power of the Spirit of God today to convert them to having faith in the Power of God and not the wisdom of men?
2. How many people have you demonstrated the Power of the Spirit of God to in the Last month to convert them to having faith in the Power of God and not the wisdom of men?


This is the total sum of what is wrong with Christianity today. It's about to change.

[quote name='Godsloft.com' date='Feb 21 2007, 04:37 AM' post='102872']

The Isaiah 30:8-14 text is pasted off the USS New York topic in the General Discussion section of this forum by 'mmddll' on 'Feb 20 2007, 03:56 PM' post #'102820'

Commentary mine;

These words reverberate TRUTH AND SEND A WARNING TO the 'traditional teachers and prophecy writers' ALSO WARNING the 'willfully ignorant' to REPENT, destruction comes suddenly.

The confident and foolish are primed for the trap as the snare has been laid. The Apostle Paul had the scroll of Daniel and I believe was referring to this “time, times and dividing time” of God’s land.

He told the “brethren” of Thessalonica (I Thess.5:3) that they “were not to be in darkness” as the 2300 day vision was for a ‘future time’ when negotiators would promote a “Peace and safety” plan, warning us that while it was being promoted, sudden destruction would come upon those living in disbelief. Then telling us they WOULD NOT escape.

Note the similarities of Isaiah 30:8 and Habakkuk 2:3 Our loving Heavenly Father gives us little clues along the way as we Ask, Seek and Knock through prayer along the way. [ASK!]

CAPS in text mine for emphasis:

Isaiah 30:8 Now go, write it before them in a table, and note it in a book, that it may be for the time to come for ever and ever:

9That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD:

10Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, PROPHESY NOT UNTO US RIGHT THINGS, speak unto us smooth things, PROPHESY LIES:

11Get you out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us.

12Wherefore thus saith the Holy One of Israel, Because ye despise this word, and trust in oppression and perverseness, and stay thereon:

13Therefore this iniquity shall be to you as a breach ready to fall, swelling out in a high wall, whose breaking cometh suddenly at an instant.

14And he shall break it as the breaking of the potters' vessel that is broken in pieces; he shall not spare: so that there shall not be found in the bursting of it a sherd to take fire from the hearth, or to take water withal out of the pit.

Indeed true judgment (justice) is coming; He is our 'blessed hope' and only hope. Amen Gavrial

Godsloft, with all due respect, it is the Spirit of God that Christ after His Ascension did leave with us, we His own, and it is by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit of God that was left to us that True Wisdom in Christ is attained. The Lord wants us to ask, seek and learn of His Sacred Wisdom and of the hidden things. He is a Father Who desires not to withhold from his precious children. He desires not that His people wander in blind ignorance. However, Satan, on the other hand, desires this, wanting us to wallow aimlessly in the Darkness of Ignorance. “My people perish for lack of vision.” It is man WITHOUT CHRIST AND WITHOUT THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD, whose "wisdom" is folly onto God, not those of us that possess Christ, Who leads us to more thorough understanding of His Creation. So this notion and continual accusation of yours against me that I operate in "the wisdom of man" is false, wrong and untrue.

"From amongst the flock shall arise ravenous wolves." If you will note, I have not been "ravenous" towards you. Since day one your treatment of me, on the other hand, well, let's just say that's another story. Persecution always comes from "within" the Church. The ravenous wolves of the Inquisition did raise their ugly heads from within the "Church" to persecute Galileo as a "heretic" for dare suggesting the absolutely ridiculous idea that the world was not a “flat disk” but a dimensional sphere. The “interpretations” by the so-called “Bible Experts” were convinced beyond any reasonable doubt from the scripture relaying that the earth is a “disk” that the earth must also be “flat”, because a disk is “flat”. The “Bible Experts” were under the Authority of God, and Galileo was a “blasphemous heretic”. Therefore, you, Godsloft, must believe the “Bible Experts”, and you must also believe the earth is a “flat disk” and not a round dimensional sphere, for you not to do so would mean, according to your (skewed) belief, that you would be intrusting your faith into “the wisdom of man”, which is folly onto God.

Likewise, Copernicus, a little cleverer, withheld until “after” his death the publishing of his thesis stating the utterly preposterous idea that the Sun does not circle the earth, but that the earth, instead, circles the Sun, because he knew that the ravenous wolves, the so-called “Bible Experts”, from the “Church” would persecute him for this “blasphemy” and brand him a “heretic”. The “Bible Experts” were under the Authority of God, and Copernicus’ Heliocentric Theory was obviously in diametric opposition to the biblical “interpretation” of the Holy Scriptures by the “Bible Experts”, and thus it was a plain-as-day Lie and “blasphemy”. Therefore, you, Godsloft, must believe the “Bible Experts”, and today you must believe that the Sun orbits the earth, you must believe in the Geocentric Theory that is ordained by the “Bible Experts”, because not to do so, according to your (skewed) belief, means that you would be intrusting your faith into the “wisdom of man”, which is folly onto God.

It is the Spirit of God that has been hidden for many many centuries. While man dreamed up all of this nonsense.
Everything except the Spirit that is God is part of His creation. That includes everything. Light, Darkness, Space, Matter, Thought, time, heat, cold, galaxies, solar systems, suns. Everything that is in the Universe only continues by His act of will.
The calling of God of any man, is the drawing of God for that man to pay attention. Many are called but few are chosen. Most go off on some man made tangent and start preaching and teaching a man made gospel.
How many do you know that from the first have seen Christ as their example and left all to go and do what he did and what He taught to find Him?
The Holy Spirit has to be asked for to be received.
There are no Apostles here to impart the Holy Spirit by sight and sound because the Lord has hidden His face from the generation of His wrath.
Now at the very end the Lord is waking up His end time saints who will leave all that they have and come out from among them and be separate to follow Him.
When the saints are ready to receive the Lords sheep into His camps then the Lord will send His two witnesses to destroy the earth by removing the whole supply of bread and the whole supply of water from the planet.
After Gods daily sacrifice to man is taken away by His two hosts then those deluded men of sin who preach a sin loving god will place there the abomination of desolation and start hunting and eating people for food and drink, using their man made devises to capture their food.

Isaiah 24
1 Behold, the Lord makes the earth empty and makes it waste, Distorts its surface And scatters abroad its inhabitants.
2 And it shall be: As with the people, so with the priest; As with the servant, so with his master; As with the maid, so with her mistress; As with the buyer, so with the seller; As with the lender, so with the borrower; As with the creditor, so with the debtor.
3 The land shall be entirely emptied and utterly plundered, For the Lord has spoken this word.
4 The earth mourns and fades away, The world languishes and fades away; The haughty people of the earth languish.
5 The earth is also defiled under its inhabitants, Because they have transgressed the laws, Changed the ordinance, Broken the everlasting covenant.
6 Therefore the curse has devoured the earth, And those who dwell in it are desolate. Therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, And few men are left.

Isaiah 34
1 Come near, you nations, to hear; And heed, you people! Let the earth hear, and all that is in it, The world and all things that come forth from it.
2 For the indignation of the Lord is against all nations, And His fury against all their armies; He has utterly destroyed them, He has given them over to the slaughter.
3 Also their slain shall be thrown out; Their stench shall rise from their corpses, And the mountains shall be melted with their blood.
4 All the host of heaven shall be dissolved, And the heavens shall be rolled up like a scroll; All their host shall fall down As the leaf falls from the vine, And as fruit falling from a fig tree.

Jeremiah 25
30 "Therefore prophesy against them all these words, and say to them: 'The Lord will roar from on high, And utter His voice from His holy habitation; He will roar mightily against His fold. He will give a shout, as those who tread the grapes, Against all the inhabitants of the earth.
31 A noise will come to the ends of the earth-- For the Lord has a controversy with the nations; He will plead His case with all flesh. He will give those who are wicked to the sword,' says the Lord."
32 Thus says the Lord of hosts: "Behold, disaster shall go forth From nation to nation, And a great whirlwind shall be raised up From the farthest parts of the earth.
33 And at that day the slain of the Lord shall be from one end of the earth even to the other end of the earth. They shall not be lamented, or gathered, or buried; they shall become refuse on the ground.
34 "Wail, shepherds, and cry! Roll about in the ashes, You leaders of the flock! For the days of your slaughter and your dispersions are fulfilled; You shall fall like a precious vessel.
35 And the shepherds will have no way to flee, Nor the leaders of the flock to escape.
36 A voice of the cry of the shepherds, And a wailing of the leaders to the flock will be heard. For the Lord has plundered their pasture,
37 And the peaceful dwellings are cut down Because of the fierce anger of the Lord.

matthew 24
28 For wherever the carcass is, there the eagles will be gathered together.

9Those slain by the sword are better off Than those who die of hunger; For these pine away, Stricken for lack of the fruits of the field.
10 The hands of the compassionate women Have cooked their own children; They became food for them In the destruction of the daughter of my people.

9 And I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of their daughters, and everyone shall eat the flesh of his friend in the siege and in the desperation with which their enemies and those who seek their lives shall drive them to despair." '

Daniel 12
7 Then I heard the man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand to heaven, and swore by Him who lives forever, that it shall be for a time, times, and half a time; and when the power of the holy people has been completely shattered, all these things shall be finished.

Deuteronomy 32
36 "For the Lord will judge His people And have compassion on His servants, When He sees that their power is gone, And there is no one remaining, bond or free.
37 He will say: 'Where are their gods, The rock in which they sought refuge?
38 Who ate the fat of their sacrifices, And drank the wine of their drink offering? Let them rise and help you, And be your refuge.
39 'Now see that I, even I, am He, And there is no God besides Me; I kill and I make alive; I wound and I heal; Nor is there any who can deliver from My hand.

Jeremiah 7
29 Cut off your hair and cast it away, and take up a lamentation on the desolate heights; for the Lord has rejected and forsaken the generation of His wrath.'

Zechariah 13
8 And it shall come to pass in all the land," Says the Lord, "That two-thirds in it shall be cut off and die, But one-third shall be left in it:
9 I will bring the one-third through the fire, Will refine them as silver is refined, And test them as gold is tested. They will call on My name, And I will answer them. I will say, 'This is My people'; And each one will say, 'The Lord is my God.' "

Revelation 7
9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands,
13 Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, "Who are these arrayed in white robes, and where did they come from?"
14 And I said to him, "Sir, you know." So he said to me, "These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
15 Therefore they are before the throne of God, and serve Him day and night in His temple. And He who sits on the throne will dwell among them.
16 They shall neither hunger anymore nor thirst anymore; the sun shall not strike them, nor any heat;
17 for the Lamb who is in the midst of the throne will shepherd them and lead them to living fountains of waters. And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes."

Nicolaus Copernicus was also an astrologer and many of his findings were a product of the understanding gained through this study as were many of the astronomical findings of that day. Perhaps his sources were the blaspheme he worried about and not heliocentricity.