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Could we be this close to going home??? I was told that Jesus was coming back in the first part of this year in the spring. I seen a battle in the heavens and Satan being sent to earth. He choose a man which everyone knows to indwell. Before this Jesus came to get his own. He took only those who was watching for his appearing. Those who had his spirit.
Gods Spirit was taken from the earth, which caused a great darkness to cover the earth. All forms of love disappeared from the heart of man. In a vision I was shown these things, I am sharing this because I don't know what else to do. What is the odds of this coming to pass?
Who knows? I hope I haven't broken any rules by putting this here. God bless you all.
If this were a true vision you would not be asking us what the odds of it coming to pass were.
Also we know that Christ cannot return before the man of lawlessness appears. We also know that the man of lawlessness rules for around 3.5 years before Christ returns.
Therefore the Return of Christ IS NOT IMMINENT as some of our kooky pretrib rapturators believe.
How do I know? Because the apostle Paul told me so in
2 Thess 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, [1] 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
So therefore the odds of your vision coming to pass are precisely zero.
I just want to say to you here that there is such a spirit of hostility and name calling in some here that proclaim the name of Jesus as their King. I really dont understand why you have to answer in this way.
I always thought that we were to be ready to instruct with the fruit of the Spirit in love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
A servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient, in humility correcting those who are in opposition.
Jesus said: ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’
We all need to be Abiding in Christ Jesus,
In His name,
Chris
I'm really upset with the bias of this forum. This jab of mine ("kooky pre-trib rapturators") is incredibly mild and yet I am receiving a howl of protest. It was not directed at any particular member but was designed as a mildly humourous jibe at an erroneus false doctrine of the modern church.
When another member directly called me a jerk, boorish, disrespectful, haughty, spewing forth venom, immature, speaking prattle and heresy hunting, not a single person came to my defence or corrected the person who attacked me. Indeed the consensus of the thread supported the person in his name calling and personal attack.
Nevertheless I appreciate the scripture you have quoted for my benefit and can see that I need to tighten up in this area. I am too often striving to correct foolish and unlearned posts when the scripture which you quoted teaches that I should completely ignore profane and vain babblings.
I do believe that I am gentle and kind toward the saints and genuine Christians. My ire has always been reserved for imposters who promote false doctrines of demons and who preach false prophecies. They say they are Christians but in fact they are of the church of Satan and come here to spread lies amongst the saints and to deceive. I have been trying to expose their false teachings using the two edged sword of the scripture and many of them react not with explanations of the scripture but with open hostility and accusations. They sling mud at me and invariably some of it sticks and my reputation is tarnished unfairly.
When I ask for links to posts to prove that I have been uncaring, name-calling, hostile etc., they invariably do not provide any. Even less do they provide any apology for their false accusations.
The apostle prophesied that it was inevitable that ungodly teachings will flourish in the church like a cancer as the church falls into ungodliness; and that there is very little that can be done about it except to stand firm as an individual. Therefore I will stand corrected and avoid nonsense. I admit that it has been taking its toll on me and other areas of my life begin to suffer because of the never ending and fruitless battle against false doctrine and false prophecies. Constantly battling with hostile and vain people can tend to make you hardened and less caring. As you say it does not produce fruit of love joy peace and kindness.
So I will take your comments on board and make some changes to strive to be meek and lowly when addressing others. Thanks.
2 Tim 2:14 Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers. 15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. 17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: [2] of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; 18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.
23 But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes. 24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, [4] 25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; 26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.