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Posted 14 July 2006 - 10:45 PM

Shekel, on Jul 14 2006, 04:58 PM, said:

onetiggerroo, on Jul 13 2006, 07:55 PM, said:

Timing of this war is critical to understanding the Bible prophecy...

Shekel stated this in his Bible Code:

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6.) The first flag reads: "We will besiege a banner/flag and their innocent One!" And while this refers to the besiegement of Messiah at the cross just like Babylon was surrounded by the Medes and the Persians the night this code was written on the palace wall and the king slain, it seems to me that in light of this sign about the Red Cross perhaps this is also a prophecy of an upcoming besiegement of Jerusalem by her enemies.

Yeshua (Jesus) said:

"And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up; that whosoever believeth may in him have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have eternal life." (John 3:14-16).


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I just noticed the date of Tammuz 17th for the war myself. :huh: I was surprised to find out that onetigerroo was ahead of me! (As was one other who emailed me). Interestingly, July 12-15 on the 360 calendar is Av 7-10, which are the anniversaries of the fall of Jerusalem according to Jeremiah, 2Kings, and Jewish tradition (for Av 9).

Notice that I also said on July 2 (10 days before the kidnapping) that (as quoting back to the Mene, Tekel, Peres, Bible Code::

"Peres:
"...He perished, he refused the banner/flag!
(Israel 'perishes' by continuing to "refuse the flag" of the snake on the cross, which symbolizes the Messiah who suffered the 'curse' in their stead, )
O' accursed day! The day that He was inflicted with curses, having been numbered.
They put God to the test!..."


If you go back to the source of where I quoted from back on July 2, this is what it says:

("Peres" can mean 'divided' or a coin called a 'half-mina,' worth 30 [or 25 shekels]---the price of Jesus' betrayal by Judas Iscariot. Or it can mean "Persia," the kingdom of the east that sacked Babylon.)

It is interesting to me that "Peres" can mean Persia, which is modern Iran, the nation financing the Hezbollah in this current war/skirmish with Israel. Thus, the picture bible code names both major parties in this war.

Moreover, the tet-nun-flag bible code had much to do with "the serpent changed into a rod", which happened to Moses at his call and then again before Pharaoh half-a-year later. The actual dates were 1447 and 1446 BC. However, in Jewish tradition they date these rather (incorrectly) as 1314 and 1313 BC.

(1313 BC), July 13, 2006 of the war equals "The Accursed Day!"

I wrote an article on the internet concerning the significance of these traditional dates many years ago. (You can find all my articles on this subject by searching for ["1313 BC" "AD 1313"] on Goggle. See http://www.bible-cod...esus-codes.html ). Anyway --- getting to the point --- for those familiar with my sites, each day also represents a symbolic year of time { http://www.1260-1290...le-prophecy.htm }, and so it happens that July 12, 2006 (when the skirmish began) represented the year 1314 (or 2707), and thus July 13 (when the war began), as 1313 BC (or 2708).

Notice the emphasis on the number "13" in July 13 and 1313. 1313 BC was the year Israel was given the law, and Tammuz 17 is when it was literally broken by Moses against the Mountain. The number 13 is the number of curse: "Cursed is he who does not obey everything written in the law to do it."

The code read:

"O Peres, (Persia/Iran) "...He perished, he refused the banner/flag!
(Israel 'perishes' by continuing to "refuse the flag" of the snake on the cross, which symbolizes the Messiah who suffered the 'curse' in their stead, )

O' accursed day! The day that He was inflicted with curses, having been numbered.

They put God to the test!..."



Speaking of "numbered", can you think of a better day ("O accursed day!") to represent this phrase: "O' accursed day! The day that He was inflicted with curses, having been numbered," other than on Tammuz 17 (July 13, 2006), on a day (July 13, 2006 only) that symbolically represents the year 1313 BC, the traditional year when the law was broken, coincidentally, on Tammuz 17th! (Thus, the literal day and the symbolic year overlap each other. An amazing coincidence/providence! Both the day and its symbolic year point to each other. Even the actual date of 1446 BC is 1150 x 3 years ago exactly as per Daniel 8. "1150" is half 2300. The Mene-tekel-code is all about the giving of the law as well, written with the finger of God. The bible code was discoverd 6 years ago on Pentecost, the anniversary of the giving of the law! http://www.bible-cod...ophecy-code.htm )

Remember that the above about "the accursed day" was quoted on the net 11 days before "the accursed day!" Moreover, the code itself reads, "I will give them a sign!"

And, as said, 1313 (and 1312) is when Moses' snake swallowed up those of Pharaoh's in accord with the nun-tet (flag) bible code wherein I said, (by the Spirit):

"The first flag reads: "We will besiege a banner/flag and their innocent One!" And while this refers to the besiegement of Messiah at the cross just like Babylon was surrounded by the Medes and the Persians the night this code was written on the palace wall and the king slain, it seems to me that in light of this sign about the Red Cross perhaps this is also a prophecy of an upcoming besiegement of Jerusalem by her enemies." http://www.bible-cod...-tet-atbash.htm

Moreover, the name of the military operation against the Hezbollah is, "A Just Reward." I find this interesting given what the rest of the code reads. Both "justice" and "reward" are fitting words for this code of a flag with money on it that speaks about injustice toward Christ that man might be made just.

The title reads:

His execution!

The pole with its flag of a cross within a coin, reads:

"A banner (or, flag/wonder/pole) and their innocent One will we besiege!"
(or, '...we will go around.')

Reading around the 'coin' in both directions:

"A dieing man redeemed them!
You will purchase them!
You have declared them exempt from punishment!"


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What does it all mean?

The sign of the flag-code and this current conflict is a warning of a much greater war that is to come. This may be the beginning of that one, or (more likely) it is a warning to Israel of the big war to come between Russia/Iran (Ezekiel 38), etc., against Israel "for rejecting the banner of the cross!" All are brought into judgement over the enormity of this one crime, including Israel, and God is warning of the "just reward" for rejecting the snake on the pole, that is, the message of the cross, of one who became a curse (recall '13' and 'snake') for us!

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Shekel, :1dsz5h3: :1dsz5e4: :wub:

Isn't this just something to shout to the LORD about! As always, I am in awe of the HAND of GOD moving! Praise the LORD! For HE alone is worthy! :wub:
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Posted 14 July 2006 - 10:49 PM

There's that ol serpent. He can't hide anymore. The jig's up you dastardly thing! :lol:
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Posted 15 July 2006 - 04:13 PM

Humble Bob, on Jul 14 2006, 10:49 PM, said:

There's that ol serpent.  He can't hide anymore.  The jig's up you dastardly thing! :lol:
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What does it all mean?

The sign of the flag-code and this current conflict is a warning of a much greater war that is to come. This may be the beginning of that one, or (more likely) it is a warning to Israel of the big war to come between Russia/Iran (Ezekiel 38), etc., against Israel "for rejecting the banner of the cross!" All are brought into judgement over the enormity of this one crime, including Israel, and God is warning of the "just reward" for rejecting the snake on the pole, that is, the message of the cross, of one who became a curse (recall '13' and 'snake') for us!

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Posted 15 July 2006 - 04:22 PM

onetiggerroo, on Jul 14 2006, 11:45 PM, said:

Shekel, on Jul 14 2006, 04:58 PM, said:

onetiggerroo, on Jul 13 2006, 07:55 PM, said:

Timing of this war is critical to understanding the Bible prophecy...

Shekel stated this in his Bible Code:

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6.) The first flag reads: "We will besiege a banner/flag and their innocent One!" And while this refers to the besiegement of Messiah at the cross just like Babylon was surrounded by the Medes and the Persians the night this code was written on the palace wall and the king slain, it seems to me that in light of this sign about the Red Cross perhaps this is also a prophecy of an upcoming besiegement of Jerusalem by her enemies.

Yeshua (Jesus) said:

"And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up; that whosoever believeth may in him have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have eternal life." (John 3:14-16).


http://www.bible-cod...-tet-atbash.htm

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I just noticed the date of Tammuz 17th for the war myself. :huh: I was surprised to find out that onetigerroo was ahead of me! (As was one other who emailed me). Interestingly, July 12-15 on the 360 calendar is Av 7-10, which are the anniversaries of the fall of Jerusalem according to Jeremiah, 2Kings, and Jewish tradition (for Av 9).

Notice that I also said on July 2 (10 days before the kidnapping) that (as quoting back to the Mene, Tekel, Peres, Bible Code::

"Peres:
"...He perished, he refused the banner/flag!
(Israel 'perishes' by continuing to "refuse the flag" of the snake on the cross, which symbolizes the Messiah who suffered the 'curse' in their stead, )
O' accursed day! The day that He was inflicted with curses, having been numbered.
They put God to the test!..."


If you go back to the source of where I quoted from back on July 2, this is what it says:

("Peres" can mean 'divided' or a coin called a 'half-mina,' worth 30 [or 25 shekels]---the price of Jesus' betrayal by Judas Iscariot. Or it can mean "Persia," the kingdom of the east that sacked Babylon.)

It is interesting to me that "Peres" can mean Persia, which is modern Iran, the nation financing the Hezbollah in this current war/skirmish with Israel. Thus, the picture bible code names both major parties in this war.

Moreover, the tet-nun-flag bible code had much to do with "the serpent changed into a rod", which happened to Moses at his call and then again before Pharaoh half-a-year later. The actual dates were 1447 and 1446 BC. However, in Jewish tradition they date these rather (incorrectly) as 1314 and 1313 BC.

(1313 BC), July 13, 2006 of the war equals "The Accursed Day!"

I wrote an article on the internet concerning the significance of these traditional dates many years ago. (You can find all my articles on this subject by searching for ["1313 BC" "AD 1313"] on Goggle. See http://www.bible-cod...esus-codes.html ). Anyway --- getting to the point --- for those familiar with my sites, each day also represents a symbolic year of time { http://www.1260-1290...le-prophecy.htm }, and so it happens that July 12, 2006 (when the skirmish began) represented the year 1314 (or 2707), and thus July 13 (when the war began), as 1313 BC (or 2708).

Notice the emphasis on the number "13" in July 13 and 1313. 1313 BC was the year Israel was given the law, and Tammuz 17 is when it was literally broken by Moses against the Mountain. The number 13 is the number of curse: "Cursed is he who does not obey everything written in the law to do it."

The code read:

"O Peres, (Persia/Iran) "...He perished, he refused the banner/flag!
(Israel 'perishes' by continuing to "refuse the flag" of the snake on the cross, which symbolizes the Messiah who suffered the 'curse' in their stead, )

O' accursed day! The day that He was inflicted with curses, having been numbered.

They put God to the test!..."



Speaking of "numbered", can you think of a better day ("O accursed day!") to represent this phrase: "O' accursed day! The day that He was inflicted with curses, having been numbered," other than on Tammuz 17 (July 13, 2006), on a day (July 13, 2006 only) that symbolically represents the year 1313 BC, the traditional year when the law was broken, coincidentally, on Tammuz 17th! (Thus, the literal day and the symbolic year overlap each other. An amazing coincidence/providence! Both the day and its symbolic year point to each other. Even the actual date of 1446 BC is 1150 x 3 years ago exactly as per Daniel 8. "1150" is half 2300. The Mene-tekel-code is all about the giving of the law as well, written with the finger of God. The bible code was discoverd 6 years ago on Pentecost, the anniversary of the giving of the law! http://www.bible-cod...ophecy-code.htm )

Remember that the above about "the accursed day" was quoted on the net 11 days before "the accursed day!" Moreover, the code itself reads, "I will give them a sign!"

And, as said, 1313 (and 1312) is when Moses' snake swallowed up those of Pharaoh's in accord with the nun-tet (flag) bible code wherein I said, (by the Spirit):

"The first flag reads: "We will besiege a banner/flag and their innocent One!" And while this refers to the besiegement of Messiah at the cross just like Babylon was surrounded by the Medes and the Persians the night this code was written on the palace wall and the king slain, it seems to me that in light of this sign about the Red Cross perhaps this is also a prophecy of an upcoming besiegement of Jerusalem by her enemies." http://www.bible-cod...-tet-atbash.htm

Moreover, the name of the military operation against the Hezbollah is, "A Just Reward." I find this interesting given what the rest of the code reads. Both "justice" and "reward" are fitting words for this code of a flag with money on it that speaks about injustice toward Christ that man might be made just.

The title reads:

His execution!

The pole with its flag of a cross within a coin, reads:

"A banner (or, flag/wonder/pole) and their innocent One will we besiege!"
(or, '...we will go around.')

Reading around the 'coin' in both directions:

"A dieing man redeemed them!
You will purchase them!
You have declared them exempt from punishment!"


=============

What does it all mean?

The sign of the flag-code and this current conflict is a warning of a much greater war that is to come. This may be the beginning of that one, or (more likely) it is a warning to Israel of the big war to come between Russia/Iran (Ezekiel 38), etc., against Israel "for rejecting the banner of the cross!" All are brought into judgement over the enormity of this one crime, including Israel, and God is warning of the "just reward" for rejecting the snake on the pole, that is, the message of the cross, of one who became a curse (recall '13' and 'snake') for us!

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Shekel, :1dsz5h3: :1dsz5e4: :wub:

Isn't this just something to shout to the LORD about! As always, I am in awe of the HAND of GOD moving! Praise the LORD! For HE alone is worthy! :wub:
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Yes, He alone is worthy.

I thought afterward that I used the word "i" too much in my article, but I did not know how else to write it. This is not about me, but about the Lord's sign. I even forgot what I felt the Lord saying to me at the time. So much was happening you just forget. I am a messanger, and a poor one at that. God is watching over His word to do it, and only mine as long as I state what He speaks to my heart to say, or shows me. Truly, God is awesome! But we don't know how all this will turn out. This all may be simply a warning to Israel and the world (that is, those who have ears to hear) about what is to come. And this is what I am thinking, but I could be wrong. This all could well blow up into a very major event. Not that I want that to happen, exactly, but I do want men to awake and Jesus to come.
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Posted 15 July 2006 - 06:46 PM

Come Come, Shekel. You can't mess up God's word. That would be a boisterous claim as the Lord is always in control. Just understand that all can be deceived and pray that you do not deceive nor be deceived. It's what I pray for ;) ^_^
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Posted 16 July 2006 - 08:25 AM

The sing most people have not looked at which is in reality the true sign of the 17th and the following mourning is the "sins of Israel"

MAny are pointing to the enemies of Isreal but in fact, when the nation does NOT have God's blessing upon it becaseu of THEIR SINS, as bible history proved, God allowed their enemies to rise up against her and conquer her. The destrouction of the temple in the days of NEbuchadnezzar... the cause? the sins of ISrael so NEbuchadnezzar came in and conquered... The mourning is ove the sin , their sin moreso thantheir enemies.

AS long as we focus in on their enemies, we fail to see the real enemy within Israel herself....

If we want to use biblical signs to point to future prophetic things, then we must first look at what is this sign telling us? it is telling us there is a nation called israel who is in SIN right now, has FORSAKEN GOD, believes in her own power of military and her own forces, (God of forces) and stand up against her enemies proud, strong and GODLESS....

the end of this , in time, the end of this resolution is in fact, God handing israel over to her enemies, to destroy the sin within her FIRST!...

the destruction of the 2nd temple in the days of the Romans also occured because of the rejection of the son, her sin.... Those who hwere humbled accepted the son, those who did not, were beat down by roman catapults and died crushed or burned or by the sword....

The final resolution is always and still continues to be about this STIFF NECKED PEOPLE! it's not about enemies surrounding, enemies doing this or that... THAT is what God brings around to punish her for a nation under God's blessing does NOT have enemies surround her unless by the will of God....

In hte days of jehoshaphat and Ahab, Jehoshaphat believed on God and the remnant did not follow into war. Ahab and his military army went out to meet the Assyrian armies. In the end, both armies were destroyed by God for in God's eyes, BOTH were an EVIL to be purged from hte land........

this will occur at the valley of decision sa it did in that day.........

The resolution of all this is about cleansing the land of it's filth, a land in desecration do to the sin of it's inhabitants......... and the enemy armies are sent to israel, their evil is visited upon Israel by direct command and will of GOD.

WE seen to forget this. They have a purpose just like NEbuchadnezzar had his purpose dfor the destruction of the first temple, Titus had his role in God's will for the destruciton of the second temple... In each, there wa a release of the people from false worship and bondage to gentiles....

Sincewe are living in "Babylon today" it isn't til the kings of the east march, like Cyrus of old, to release the bondage from Babylon... Today, these kings of the east are represented militarily by the persians, who march up against Babylon, their leader was Cyrus, whom God called His anointed...

Cyrus came, His name was JEsus Christ, he came to release israel and those who repented, became released, the rest died or remained in bondage to this day.....

His second coming will be marked by the destruction of both armies of hell, of evil.. They will all die by the sword for they had their faith in hte sword.........

THIS IS THE CHRISTIAN MESSAGE. Not israel vs her enemies and How God is going to kill her enemies. Her real enemy is within and will be purged by the visible enemy, by God's hand.
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