[Humble Bob]

I thought about Judas and how it would apply to me. My spirit received a word "would you forgive Judas?" and I thought "Dear Lord, Judas has not done anything to me so there is nothing for me to forgive him for."

but if he had betrayed me then I must abide to what Christ himself had said to all

Matthew 6:14
For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: 15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

I do not condemn Judas.

[meekness]

Just bringing this Judas' gospel on a "Christian forum" is rather debatable to me personally.

What? There's not enough religious pollution for you out there bogoy?

Why bring the trash in here?

meekness

[justaservant]

I am a little confused!
I read the entire gospel of Judas and this is what is being put forth.

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To most Christians, Judas is seen as a traitor, the disciple who betrayed Jesus to the Romans for 30 pieces of silver. But a newly restored papyrus document dating to the 2nd century AD portrays a very different man. Judas is shown as Jesus' best friend, asked by Jesus himself to betray his identity to fulfill the prophecy and liberate his soul to ascend to heaven.

In the gospel of Judas, there was no such statement! The only thing that was mentioned about Judas was not about Judas Iscariot. It was Judas the twin, represented a part of Jesus family.
What did I miss!
A little aside! This that is presented as gospel sounds like scripture, looks like scripture, but crawls like a serpent!
j

[gary steed]

Humble Bob, on Apr 7 2006, 05:49 AM, said:

I thought about Judas and how it would apply to me.  My spirit received a word "would you forgive Judas?"  and I thought "Dear Lord, Judas has not done anything to me so there is nothing for me to forgive him for."

but if he had betrayed me then I must abide to what Christ himself had said to all

Matthew 6:14
For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: 15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

I do not condemn Judas.

i have the same hart Bob, if we put ourselves in the shoes of hittler Nero or anybody else i beleive that the truth is we are all as caperble of doing the same as they. so but by the Grace of God we are not in their shoes
Love
Gary

[Shekel]

Tzeitel, on Apr 7 2006, 06:30 AM, said:

If God were to have allowed a Gospel according to Judas then it would be in the New Testament along with Mathew, Mark, Luke and John.

In the book of Revelation John saw the twelve apostles sitting on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel...NOT THIRTEEN.

The treachery of Judas also discloses that the scars of sin callus ever thicker. The Bible records the numerous times Jesus lovingly reached out to call back Judas. Not once did Judas even hint at responding. For instance:

Two nights before the betrayal, Judas questioned Mary of Bethany’s anointing of Jesus. While Mary’s heart was in the right place, Judas asked why the disciples shouldn’t sell the costly perfume and feed the poor. But Judas had seen Jesus feed 5,000 with no money. It was the greed of a man who stole from the treasury that prompted Judas’s indignant query.
Though Jesus rebuked Judas, the traitor ignored the message. The Gospels indicate that Judas, perhaps even angry over the rebuke, immediately approached the religious establishment with an offer to betray Jesus.
Next, John 13:26 states that Jesus identified His betrayer by dipping a morsel of bread and handing it to Judas at The Last Supper. Traditionally this was a gesture reserved only for honored guests. Judas’s response was cold. Satan entered him, and Judas rose and departed, shutting the door in the Savior’s face. "And it was night," John writes.
So all was dark when Judas approached Jesus in Gethsemane. One final time, Jesus gave Judas the chance of eternal asylum. Matthew 26:50 records that Jesus addressed Judas, even after the dastardly kiss, as "friend." But sin had so blinded Judas that he could not see the Way, the Truth, and the Life. It was his last chance. A hangman’s noose would usher him into eternal torment.

How can we read the letters by the true apostles and be surprised that a great many books were written at that time by deceivers in order to draw away people after themselves? Such books are merely a vindication of the need at that time for these very letters. These apostolic letters constantly denounce the flood of false writings that the devil was vomiting out "like a flood" to swallow the church up at its infancy. Perhaps there is a "Gospel According to Lucifer" --- will we give it a hearing too!!!

If there were not all these false gnostic gospels we would lack evidence that the gigantic struggle against such was justified as seen in the apostolic letters in our Bibles, and if these heritical books were not resurfacing in these last days then we would have that much less evidence that we are in the last days!

1John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1Jo 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
1Jo 2:20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
1Jo 2:21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.
1Jo 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jo 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

[Roxygal]

Excellent point Shekel!!!