[Shekel]

Yes, and this is what we read in the first chapter of the bible:

Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens, to divide between the day and the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days and years;
Gen 1:15 and let them be for lights in the expanse of the heavens, to give light on the earth. And it was so.
Gen 1:16 And God made the two great lights, the great light to rule the day, and the small light to rule the night, --and the stars.
Gen 1:17 And God set them in the expanse of the heavens, to give light on the earth,
Gen 1:18 and to rule during the day and during the night, and to divide between the light and the darkness. And God saw that it was good.
Gen 1:19 And there was evening, and there was morning--a fourth day.

[Miki]

The reason l wanted it delete it is because that persons web site gave me such distress...I didn't believe that the Lord would have her do what she has done but that's just me. I see a lot of truths in what she says and at the same time see there's no way to prove other things...Now some might say the same thing of me.
No concrete proof...but then l'm a nobody without my own personal website.

Astrology distresses me to no end. It's a line that reels you in.

I didn't like Kennedy's ideas. I haven't read Bullinger but l liked the article he wrote...The Ground is Thirsty...

Haven't read Seiss either but l read a couple of things by Jenkins...It was fascinating.

The scriptures you spoke of regarding the heavens and stars captivate astrologers.
It gives them permission...

But l know that road.... and it leads no where but endless calculations and excuses in life...How good to be free. Come on out you astrologers. This is so much better.
Trust the Holy Spirit to lead and not that old ephemeris.

This post has been edited by Miki: 04 April 2006 - 08:50 PM

[Marta]

Miki, on Apr 4 2006, 07:49 PM, said:

The reason l wanted it delete it is because that persons web site gave me such distress...I didn't believe that the Lord would have her do what she has done but that's just me.  I see a lot of truths in what she says and at the same time see there's no way to prove other things...Now some might say the same thing of me.
No concrete proof...but then l'm a nobody without my own personal website.

Astrology distresses me to no end.  It's a line that reels you in. 

I didn't like Kennedy's ideas.  I haven't read Bullinger but l liked the article he wrote...The Ground is Thirsty...

Haven't read Seiss either but l read a couple of things by Jenkins...It was fascinating.

The scriptures you spoke of regarding the heavens and stars captivate astrologers.
It gives them permission...

But l know that road.... and it leads no where but endless calculations and excuses in life...How good to be free. Come on out you astrologers. This is so much better.
Trust the Holy Spirit to lead and not that old ephemeris.

Hi Miki......Love you!

[Miki]

You're all precious to me...believe it or not.

Oh l believe astrology is real...It is calculable. And it informs. But l wouldn't say l believe in it as though it were a God or something. I always saw it as a scientific mechanical thing. Where you didn't have to believe in spirits or voices but you could see it in black and white... and numbers didn't lie.

But as l delved deeper there came a fear

and then a glitch....

I tried to deny it according to many of the scriptures above....

God says don't do it...Why?

When l turned from those books that captivated me, God placed all the right people in my path. What a mentor he gave!

But God would never send me an x astrologer that was now a Christian to tell me why it worked. Why it was. And why it was wrong.

I think it's taken a level of maturity to understand. It also took some instruction in scripture. Who was God? Who was the Holy Spirit? Those are the things he wanted me to focus on first and foremost.

I eventually saw the heavens as the unfolding majesty of God..But he said don't do it. Don't go there...but he wouldn't tell me why...

One of the things that drove me out was the endless calculating. There was always a 'ya but'. Natal charts, progressed charts...combining charts....A wheel with in a wheel...

l came to realize the complexity of life and to tackle astrology was to take my life in my own hands. How many know that's not a safe place for your life to be? My surrender had to be complete.

I was glad to trust God instead and now l knew he was. He revealed himself in a great outpouring in my life to sustain and protect me...I had so much to learn.

And the Holy Spirit! Wow...I never knew!

Trust has taken on a whole new level of meaning for me over the years.

From 1979 until 2006...hummm where has God taken me? Is God showing me his plan for the stars? Is there yet another interpretation to be seen and accepted?

(I've always wondered if the gift of interpretation of tongues was just the gift of interpretation period? Daniel interpreted dreams...wonder if they fall under the same heading?) Sorry to drift...i was thinking out loud.

I've also had to take divination into account. What is it? What do you break through to when you look underneath? The secret things of God?

God gives us permission according the Spirit to look at certain things. But he's God not us. We are under his authority. The functioning of the Holy Spirit is for specific purposes. He describes some of the ways the Spirit operates in our lives and lists those things made available to us when we are obedient to his word.

He's not going to give us the keys to the car if we haven't read the driving manual.
And there will be a test....

God gives us grace to search out things because it's difficult to believe...He will use some of the more concrete things to help us in the beginning.

And all is him.

The devil trespassed. He said "Go ahead...Take the wheel...you can drive and l know a shortcut..." What the devil meant to ensnare, did. But God used it for his Glory!

Sure it's fascinating to see the mechanical workings of God in all the numbers and heavenly signs but he warns us about weighty matters.

There are just some things that belong to God. I'm glad to put the temptation to know too much to rest. Because I need the rest from striving to know..

It's so great to get up every day and just turn it over to God. I sometimes forget the simplicity of that because we are so pron to get caught up in end times events.

We want to know don't we...

Seems like Ms Aho has brought too much knowledge to my plate. I'm stuffed full. Enough is enough. I've even developed an aversion to the news.

There's too much to know.

That's why it's good to lay it all down and head for the garden.
Or a Bible study full of young people.

Subjective? Yes l am. But it's ok to bring subjective workings to light in an objective sense. That is to say to deal with subjective things in an objective manner. It's good for people who never open their closet doors.

[blindzebra]

a beautiful post miki,
from a beautiful, and honest heart.
you are loved.


you know something? in 2001, just after 9-11, when the scriptures
"came alive" before my eyes, and i began to diligently search them out, as if i were reading them for the first time, it was too much, at some points...
just the Word of God was, and is, itself a thing that causes me to
tremble.

and i have come to know that the more i learn, the less i really understand the wonder of our God.

the more i learn, the less i seem to KNOW.

and so, i rest with the knowledge of Jesus Christ, and him crucified,
for our sins, and his being raised to life.

sometimes, i prefer to know this, this one thing,
and that one thing, alone.

love to you Miki.

bz