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#1 User is offline   Gavrial 

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Posted 21 February 2006 - 10:35 PM

THE FOLLY OF FOLLOWING THOSE “WHO LOVETH AND MAKETH LIES”

This sobering verse of Revelation 22:14-15 with the two adjectives before the liars should catch everyone’s attention.

(14) Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.(15) For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.”

The quote below was taken off a posting on another site BUT NOTICE THE UNCERTAINTY AND APPREHENSION in it.

This tells us that THEY ARE NOT trusting in the Lord and what has been shown to them HAS COME FROM the books and teachings of ‘false teachers’!

This is the state man has put himself in today, those who believe the ‘seven year tribulation’ and ‘false departure’ theory will be ripe for taking the mark, when the antichrist is revealed at the fourth seal.

This could happen as early as April 12, 2006 or as late as April 3, 2007 and as events continue to heat up daily the latter seems more unrealistic.

The fifth seal will then be peeled almost simultaneously and the ‘marking will begin’ and with eager anticipation.

Because out of this ‘order out of chaos’, the consecutive earth shaking events during the month of March and early April, will have the masses “falling away” in droves and MORE THAN WILLING to take the ‘mark’, as the 900 day tribulation begins.

This deception will seal their fate and they will find themselves ‘outside the city gates’ because they will have taken the mark and believed the lie!

The quote: “If this year and this spring (of 2006) is not the time of our departure followed by the Day of the Lord - our hearts will grow weary within us and everything that we believe the Lord has shown us by His cycles, seasons, feasts, etc. - will have to be discarded.”

The full posting: http://www.fivedoves...06/det220-2.htm

This deception was prophesied by the Apostle Paul in 2Thessalonians 2:3 “Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.”

Psalm:1-4 (1)He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. (2) I will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust. (3) Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence. (4) He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.

In verses 9-12, we flee to the wilderness for 900 days (Revelation 12:14) because we have TRUSTED IN THE LORD and his word and not the ‘false departure’ or ‘seven year’ tribulation doctrine.

These doctrines have somehow overlooked the wilderness and have we not been “grafted into” the remnant of ISRAEL?

It’s always been in God’s word but by believing in the “lovers and makers of lies” they have missed it.

Psalm 91: 9-12 (9) Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation; (10) There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling. (11) For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways. (12) They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.

Giving Him the glory An Ezekiel 33:6 watching one REPENT the Kingdom of God is at hand and make your election SURE
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Posted 22 February 2006 - 10:38 AM

I have studied bible numbers for many years and have websites devoted to their study and there is one thing I can say for sure, "We do not know what the future holds or when, but the times and seasons are meant to reassure us that He holds the future."

When will we stop trying to predict when Jesus is coming!

2006 is an important year, but so are other years, and we can't rule out the unexpected either! So let us study what has been and leave the future to Him!
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Posted 22 February 2006 - 10:51 AM

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Because out of this ‘order out of chaos’, the consecutive earth shaking events during the month of March and early April, will have the masses “falling away” in droves and MORE THAN WILLING to take the ‘mark’, as the 900 day tribulation begins.


Are you so sure of this Gavrial....about taking the mark.....You guys are always so sure that when and if the trib isn't pre that this huge falling away will happen.

And what draws the line between tribulation and great tribulation. How will you know...?

I won't loose my faith or fall away and l won't take the mark.
People who teach should give their testimony.
My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one.
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Posted 22 February 2006 - 12:29 PM

Miki, on Feb 22 2006, 10:51 AM, said:

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Because out of this ‘order out of chaos’, the consecutive earth shaking events during the month of March and early April, will have the masses “falling away” in droves and MORE THAN WILLING to take the ‘mark’, as the 900 day tribulation begins.


Are you so sure of this Gavrial....about taking the mark.....You guys are always so sure that when and if the trib isn't pre that this huge falling away will happen.

And what draws the line between tribulation and great tribulation. How will you know...?

I won't loose my faith or fall away and l won't take the mark.
People who teach should give their testimony.
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Miki,

... it doesn't take loosing faith to fall away. The falling away is to see the son of perdition.
Yes, God does not play dice, but man does

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#5 User is offline   Gavrial 

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Posted 22 February 2006 - 07:12 PM

[quote name='Miki' date='Feb 22 2006, 10:51 AM']

Miki asked, “Are you so sure of this Gavrial....about taking the mark.....”
Yes, because of those who didn’t, Revelation 6:9-11

Miki said, “You guys are always so sure that when and if the trib isn't pre that this huge falling away will happen.”

I’m not sure of the “you guys” but the chronology is hinted at pretty clearly in II Thessalonians 2:3..except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.

After the “red horse” falls and the economic collapse of our economy comes to fruition. The the newly installed VP and “black horse” will take the reigns, it will be in this time slot that the “falling away” will start to escalate.

Our huge national debt will fuel the coming crash as the ‘oil war’ of Euro vs Dollar makes the crash of 1929 look like a walk in the park!

Then after the black horses “short spaced” reign as the seventh to fall of Revelation 17:10 will end.

The “bud becomes perfect” and seven or eight of our cities are terrorized and this will be his revealing as the “pale horse” with its riders Death and Hell come on the scene peeling the fourth seal.

Now the “falling away” ratchets up more as Satan and his angels are thrown out of heaven and the antichrist’s false prophet starts working his miracle magic!

Miki asked, “And what draws the line between tribulation and great tribulation. How will you know...?”

When the political, economic and militarily restraining country falls to simultaneous attacks as the “bud becomes perfect” the whole world will realize tribulation is here, it’ll just be greater in certain areas at certain times.

Miki said, “I won't loose my faith or fall away and l won't take the mark.” And “People who teach should give their testimony.”

Pray daily that you will be able to escape all these things, am I teaching or is it God’s magnificent wisdom of Revelation 17:9 revealing scripture that is going out planting innumerable seeds that will not be return void, that is my testimony and prayer for this day

Giving Him the glory, Gavrial

Miki you are loved by everyone but Your Father in heaven loves you more.
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Posted 22 February 2006 - 08:04 PM

I'm weighing words.....

Do you think the devil loves me?
My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one.
John 10: 27-30

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