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#7 User is offline   MMarc 

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 04:14 PM

View Postvoice, on 21 February 2010 - 10:17 PM, said:

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Rev 2: (9) I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and [I know] the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but [are] the synagogue of Satan.

Rev 3:(9) Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.


That would be a great symbol of synagogue of Satan! :1dsz5f1:

I think that in nowadays that is the one of the most important scriptures before times of the end.

In two places Yahshuah has warned His follower to be careful about some lying Jews, whom He called a synagogue of Satan. Very powerful words indeed.

What is also interesting - these fake Jews, worshipers of Satan will be very powerful and they will persecute Christ followers.

What is the most remarkable - Yahshuah will force them to worship those Christians, as an act of acknowledgment of Christ' love for his Bride.

Any attempt to explain these very interesting and powerful passages of Christ' Revelation?

Somehow I have uneasy felling, that such post will ban be forever from here! :P









What Is the 'Synagogue of Satan' (Revelation 2:9; 3:9)?

Read more: http://bibletools.or...9#ixzz0gENbezNC
The word synagogue comes from a Greek word meaning "assembly of men" or "congregation," and it was used much like the English word "church." The "synagogue of Satan," then, is an assembly or congregation—a church—made up of the individuals who "say they are Jews, and are not."






The term "Jew" is used here in a spiritual sense.


Notice the apostle Paul's definition of a spiritual Jew in Romans 2:29: "He is a Jew who is one inwardly, and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God." In this case, it is not one's physical race that counts, but his spiritual condition (Galatians 3:27-29; Romans 4:16). true Christians are spiritual Jews because Jesus says in John 4:22, "Salvation is of the Jews."

Those in the "synagogue of Satan" say they are spiritual Jews—pretend to be real Christians—but are not. This false church was already developing in the days of the apostle John, masquerading as God's true church. It had congregations in the cities of Smyrna and Philadelphia in Asia Minor even at that early time. It and its daughter churches are further described in Revelation 17.

One of the hallmarks of Satan's activities is deception, particularly counterfeiting the things of God. "For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers [servants] transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works" (II Corinthians 11:13-15). Jesus says we will know such false ministers by their fruits (Matthew 7:15-20). Thus, we should make sure that the church we attend and its ministers are following biblical doctrines and producing the fruit of righteousness. Otherwise, it may well be a "synagogue of Satan."


Read more: http://bibletools.or...9#ixzz0gENPMo1h


Thus the 'synagogue of satan' does not refer to the Jewish people or physical Jews at all, but to false 'christians'.
Any other perversion of the scripture denotes an antisemitic inclination which disqualifies one as a true believer.



Every time we spiritualize the Jewish aspect, we are accused of being anti-Semites for NOT saying the bible speaks about the natural carnal Jew. But when the bible mentions Jews of the synagogue of Satan then we are accused of being anti-semites for NOT spiritualizing the Jewish aspect.

Either way Voice this thread proves beyond a shadow of a doubt you simply accuse anyone and everyone of being anti-semite. All because you buy into the media hype of political correctness who is mostly controlled by Jews. And this is just a fact not an accusation, nor is it anti-semite.

I know the difference between real Jews and fake Jews as I explained before on this board. Either or I'm labelled and anti-semite.

These Satanic Jews who want to restart the sacrificial system will cause an abomination unto the Lord, but of course that would be anti-semite. We should instead be anti-Christ like the ADL or Binai Brith. Deny the blood of the Lamb of God. They of course are so nice in denouncing Jesus and all, they are after all politically correct.

Mind boggling to say the least.

And Miki, I read the bible and out of the 144 000 only 12 000 are of the tribe of Judah.

Try counting the number of sons Jacob had and let me know how many sons or patriarchs were called Judah. Thanks

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 04:35 PM

View Postvoice, on 21 February 2010 - 10:17 PM, said:

View Postthewordwatcher, on 22 February 2010 - 08:21 AM, said:

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Rev 2: (9) I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and [I know] the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but [are] the synagogue of Satan.

Rev 3:(9) Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.


That would be a great symbol of synagogue of Satan! :1dsz5f1:

I think that in nowadays that is the one of the most important scriptures before times of the end.

In two places Yahshuah has warned His follower to be careful about some lying Jews, whom He called a synagogue of Satan. Very powerful words indeed.

What is also interesting - these fake Jews, worshipers of Satan will be very powerful and they will persecute Christ followers.

What is the most remarkable - Yahshuah will force them to worship those Christians, as an act of acknowledgment of Christ' love for his Bride.

Any attempt to explain these very interesting and powerful passages of Christ' Revelation?

Somehow I have uneasy felling, that such post will ban be forever from here! :P









What Is the 'Synagogue of Satan' (Revelation 2:9; 3:9)?

Read more: http://bibletools.or...9#ixzz0gENbezNC
The word synagogue comes from a Greek word meaning "assembly of men" or "congregation," and it was used much like the English word "church." The "synagogue of Satan," then, is an assembly or congregation—a church—made up of the individuals who "say they are Jews, and are not."






The term "Jew" is used here in a spiritual sense.


Notice the apostle Paul's definition of a spiritual Jew in Romans 2:29: "He is a Jew who is one inwardly, and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God." In this case, it is not one's physical race that counts, but his spiritual condition (Galatians 3:27-29; Romans 4:16). true Christians are spiritual Jews because Jesus says in John 4:22, "Salvation is of the Jews."

Those in the "synagogue of Satan" say they are spiritual Jews—pretend to be real Christians—but are not. This false church was already developing in the days of the apostle John, masquerading as God's true church. It had congregations in the cities of Smyrna and Philadelphia in Asia Minor even at that early time. It and its daughter churches are further described in Revelation 17.

One of the hallmarks of Satan's activities is deception, particularly counterfeiting the things of God. "For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers [servants] transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works" (II Corinthians 11:13-15). Jesus says we will know such false ministers by their fruits (Matthew 7:15-20). Thus, we should make sure that the church we attend and its ministers are following biblical doctrines and producing the fruit of righteousness. Otherwise, it may well be a "synagogue of Satan."


Read more: http://bibletools.or...9#ixzz0gENPMo1h


Thus the 'synagogue of satan' does not refer to the Jewish people or physical Jews at all, but to false 'christians'.
Any other perversion of the scripture denotes an antisemitic inclination which disqualifies one as a true believer.


Why must there be any perversion of scriptures at all? This perversion of scripture you have posted is certainly not anti-semitic! :mellow: Racist, yes! :mellow:

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 04:41 PM

View PostMMarc, on 22 February 2010 - 04:14 PM, said:

View Postvoice, on 21 February 2010 - 10:17 PM, said:

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Rev 2: (9) I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and [I know] the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but [are] the synagogue of Satan.

Rev 3:(9) Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.


That would be a great symbol of synagogue of Satan! :1dsz5f1:

I think that in nowadays that is the one of the most important scriptures before times of the end.

In two places Yahshuah has warned His follower to be careful about some lying Jews, whom He called a synagogue of Satan. Very powerful words indeed.

What is also interesting - these fake Jews, worshipers of Satan will be very powerful and they will persecute Christ followers.

What is the most remarkable - Yahshuah will force them to worship those Christians, as an act of acknowledgment of Christ' love for his Bride.

Any attempt to explain these very interesting and powerful passages of Christ' Revelation?

Somehow I have uneasy felling, that such post will ban be forever from here! :P









What Is the 'Synagogue of Satan' (Revelation 2:9; 3:9)?

Read more: http://bibletools.or...9#ixzz0gENbezNC
The word synagogue comes from a Greek word meaning "assembly of men" or "congregation," and it was used much like the English word "church." The "synagogue of Satan," then, is an assembly or congregation—a church—made up of the individuals who "say they are Jews, and are not."






The term "Jew" is used here in a spiritual sense.


Notice the apostle Paul's definition of a spiritual Jew in Romans 2:29: "He is a Jew who is one inwardly, and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God." In this case, it is not one's physical race that counts, but his spiritual condition (Galatians 3:27-29; Romans 4:16). true Christians are spiritual Jews because Jesus says in John 4:22, "Salvation is of the Jews."

Those in the "synagogue of Satan" say they are spiritual Jews—pretend to be real Christians—but are not. This false church was already developing in the days of the apostle John, masquerading as God's true church. It had congregations in the cities of Smyrna and Philadelphia in Asia Minor even at that early time. It and its daughter churches are further described in Revelation 17.

One of the hallmarks of Satan's activities is deception, particularly counterfeiting the things of God. "For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers [servants] transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works" (II Corinthians 11:13-15). Jesus says we will know such false ministers by their fruits (Matthew 7:15-20). Thus, we should make sure that the church we attend and its ministers are following biblical doctrines and producing the fruit of righteousness. Otherwise, it may well be a "synagogue of Satan."


Read more: http://bibletools.or...9#ixzz0gENPMo1h


Thus the 'synagogue of satan' does not refer to the Jewish people or physical Jews at all, but to false 'christians'.
Any other perversion of the scripture denotes an antisemitic inclination which disqualifies one as a true believer.



Every time we spiritualize the Jewish aspect, we are accused of being anti-Semites for NOT saying the bible speaks about the natural carnal Jew. But when the bible mentions Jews of the synagogue of Satan then we are accused of being anti-semites for NOT spiritualizing the Jewish aspect.

Either way Voice this thread proves beyond a shadow of a doubt you simply accuse anyone and everyone of being anti-semite. All because you buy into the media hype of political correctness who is mostly controlled by Jews. And this is just a fact not an accusation, nor is it anti-semite.

I know the difference between real Jews and fake Jews as I explained before on this board. Either or I'm labelled and anti-semite.

These Satanic Jews who want to restart the sacrificial system will cause an abomination unto the Lord, but of course that would be anti-semite. We should instead be anti-Christ like the ADL or Binai Brith. Deny the blood of the Lamb of God. They of course are so nice in denouncing Jesus and all, they are after all politically correct.

Mind boggling to say the least.

And Miki, I read the bible and out of the 144 000 only 12 000 are of the tribe of Judah.

Try counting the number of sons Jacob had and let me know how many sons or patriarchs were called Judah. Thanks



What you fail to realize, Marc, is that even the worst Jew is superior to the best Gentile. ;) After all, "It is the flesh that gives life, the Spirit profiteth nothing!" Right voice??? :blink: :unsure:

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 04:57 PM

View Postvoice, on 21 February 2010 - 10:17 PM, said:

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Rev 2: (9) I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and [I know] the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but [are] the synagogue of Satan.

Rev 3:(9) Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.


That would be a great symbol of synagogue of Satan! :1dsz5f1:

I think that in nowadays that is the one of the most important scriptures before times of the end.

In two places Yahshuah has warned His follower to be careful about some lying Jews, whom He called a synagogue of Satan. Very powerful words indeed.

What is also interesting - these fake Jews, worshipers of Satan will be very powerful and they will persecute Christ followers.

What is the most remarkable - Yahshuah will force them to worship those Christians, as an act of acknowledgment of Christ' love for his Bride.

Any attempt to explain these very interesting and powerful passages of Christ' Revelation?

Somehow I have uneasy felling, that such post will ban be forever from here! :P









What Is the 'Synagogue of Satan' (Revelation 2:9; 3:9)?

Read more: http://bibletools.or...9#ixzz0gENbezNC
The word synagogue comes from a Greek word meaning "assembly of men" or "congregation," and it was used much like the English word "church." The "synagogue of Satan," then, is an assembly or congregation—a church—made up of the individuals who "say they are Jews, and are not."






The term "Jew" is used here in a spiritual sense.


Notice the apostle Paul's definition of a spiritual Jew in Romans 2:29: "He is a Jew who is one inwardly, and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God." In this case, it is not one's physical race that counts, but his spiritual condition (Galatians 3:27-29; Romans 4:16). true Christians are spiritual Jews because Jesus says in John 4:22, "Salvation is of the Jews."

Those in the "synagogue of Satan" say they are spiritual Jews—pretend to be real Christians—but are not. This false church was already developing in the days of the apostle John, masquerading as God's true church. It had congregations in the cities of Smyrna and Philadelphia in Asia Minor even at that early time. It and its daughter churches are further described in Revelation 17.

One of the hallmarks of Satan's activities is deception, particularly counterfeiting the things of God. "For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers [servants] transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works" (II Corinthians 11:13-15). Jesus says we will know such false ministers by their fruits (Matthew 7:15-20). Thus, we should make sure that the church we attend and its ministers are following biblical doctrines and producing the fruit of righteousness. Otherwise, it may well be a "synagogue of Satan."


Read more: http://bibletools.or...9#ixzz0gENPMo1h


Thus the 'synagogue of satan' does not refer to the Jewish people or physical Jews at all, but to false 'christians'.
Any other perversion of the scripture denotes an antisemitic inclination which disqualifies one as a true believer.



All perversions of scripture will be tolerated....as long as they are not anti-semitic sounding. Heretics...choose your perversions well!!!! <_<
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Posted 22 February 2010 - 08:43 PM

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What you fail to realize, Marc, is that even the worst Jew is superior to the best Gentile. ;) After all, "It is the flesh that gives life, the Spirit profiteth nothing!" Right voice??? :blink: :unsure:


This sentence is the worst kind of racism found on christian forum. Can you cite some Bible passage to prove, what you have said?

It's unbelievable to what extend some will go to prove things are impossible to prove. It's unbelievable, to what extend some will pervert scriptures and promote wildly crazy logic to prove something, can't be proven.

In other words, some are retorting to lies and those who are doing so, a sons of the father of lie.

Lets reason a little.

If Synagogue of Satan is made of false Christians, who are true Christians? Israel perhaps?

Not working? If Israel are not true c Christians, who are true Christians?

They are faithful servants of Yahshuah? That make a sense?

So where are spiritual true Israel, from which evolve a Synagogue of Satan?


If spiritual Israel exists, than there is no room for Israel fleshly.

You can't have it both ways.

Also, stating, that modern Zionism (Israel included!) is a Chosen by God Nation an obvious lack of understanding Torah!

God was always very clear about His covenant with Israel. In order to understand it, we have to understand, that covenant is an agreement which has time on it and obligation to both parties.

Yes! God had many obligations as well to fulfill His duties according to an agreement or Covenant He had with Israel.

Old Covenant wasn't UNCONDITIONAL!

There were some serious obligation of Israel. Braking them would cause terrible consequences.

Duties of God.

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Deu 28:1-14
(1) And it shall come to pass, if thou shalt hearken diligently unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe and to do all his commandments which I command thee this day, that the LORD thy God will set thee on high above all nations of the earth:
(2) And all these blessings shall come on thee, and overtake thee, if thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God.
(3) Blessed shalt thou be in the city, and blessed shalt thou be in the field.
(4) Blessed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy ground, and the fruit of thy cattle, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep.
(5) Blessed shall be thy basket and thy store.
(6) Blessed shalt thou be when thou comest in, and blessed shalt thou be when thou goest out.
(7) The LORD shall cause thine enemies that rise up against thee to be smitten before thy face: they shall come out against thee one way, and flee before thee seven ways.
(8) The LORD shall command the blessing upon thee in thy storehouses, and in all that thou settest thine hand unto; and he shall bless thee in the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
(9) The LORD shall establish thee an holy people unto himself, as he hath sworn unto thee, if thou shalt keep the commandments of the LORD thy God, and walk in his ways.
(10) And all people of the earth shall see that thou art called by the name of the LORD; and they shall be afraid of thee.
(11) And the LORD shall make thee plenteous in goods, in the fruit of thy body, and in the fruit of thy cattle, and in the fruit of thy ground, in the land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers to give thee.
(12) The LORD shall open unto thee his good treasure, the heaven to give the rain unto thy land in his season, and to bless all the work of thine hand: and thou shalt lend unto many nations, and thou shalt not borrow.
(13) And the LORD shall make thee the head, and not the tail; and thou shalt be above only, and thou shalt not be beneath; if that thou hearken unto the commandments of the LORD thy God, which I command thee this day, to observe and to do them:
(14) And thou shalt not go aside from any of the words which I command thee this day, to the right hand, or to the left, to go after other gods to serve them.



Now, an agreement is a conditional one. Covenant strictly depend of obedience of Israel. If they will be obedient, God will have to bless them indefinitely.

But their disobedience will not only terminate Covenant, it will also bring very harsh penalties.

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Deu 28:15-68
(15) But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:
(16) Cursed shalt thou be in the city, and cursed shalt thou be in the field.
(17) Cursed shall be thy basket and thy store.
(18) Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy land, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep.
(19) Cursed shalt thou be when thou comest in, and cursed shalt thou be when thou goest out.
(20) The LORD shall send upon thee cursing, vexation, and rebuke, in all that thou settest thine hand unto for to do, until thou be destroyed, and until thou perish quickly; because of the wickedness of thy doings, whereby thou hast forsaken me.
(21) The LORD shall make the pestilence cleave unto thee, until he have consumed thee from off the land, whither thou goest to possess it.
(22) The LORD shall smite thee with a consumption, and with a fever, and with an inflammation, and with an extreme burning, and with the sword, and with blasting, and with mildew; and they shall pursue thee until thou perish.
(23) And thy heaven that is over thy head shall be brass, and the earth that is under thee shall be iron.
(24) The LORD shall make the rain of thy land powder and dust: from heaven shall it come down upon thee, until thou be destroyed.
(25) The LORD shall cause thee to be smitten before thine enemies: thou shalt go out one way against them, and flee seven ways before them: and shalt be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth.
(26) And thy carcase shall be meat unto all fowls of the air, and unto the beasts of the earth, and no man shall fray them away.
(27) The LORD will smite thee with the botch of Egypt, and with the emerods, and with the scab, and with the itch, whereof thou canst not be healed.
(28) The LORD shall smite thee with madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart:
(29) And thou shalt grope at noonday, as the blind gropeth in darkness, and thou shalt not prosper in thy ways: and thou shalt be only oppressed and spoiled evermore, and no man shall save thee.
(30) Thou shalt betroth a wife, and another man shall lie with her: thou shalt build an house, and thou shalt not dwell therein: thou shalt plant a vineyard, and shalt not gather the grapes thereof.
(31) Thine ox shall be slain before thine eyes, and thou shalt not eat thereof: thine --- shall be violently taken away from before thy face, and shall not be restored to thee: thy sheep shall be given unto thine enemies, and thou shalt have none to rescue them.
(32) Thy sons and thy daughters shall be given unto another people, and thine eyes shall look, and fail with longing for them all the day long: and there shall be no might in thine hand.
(33) The fruit of thy land, and all thy labours, shall a nation which thou knowest not eat up; and thou shalt be only oppressed and crushed alway:
(34) So that thou shalt be mad for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see.
(35) The LORD shall smite thee in the knees, and in the legs, with a sore botch that cannot be healed, from the sole of thy foot unto the top of thy head.
(36) The LORD shall bring thee, and thy king which thou shalt set over thee, unto a nation which neither thou nor thy fathers have known; and there shalt thou serve other gods, wood and stone.
(37) And thou shalt become an astonishment, a proverb, and a byword, among all nations whither the LORD shall lead thee.
(38) Thou shalt carry much seed out into the field, and shalt gather but little in; for the locust shall consume it.
(39) Thou shalt plant vineyards, and dress them, but shalt neither drink of the wine, nor gather the grapes; for the worms shall eat them.
(40) Thou shalt have olive trees throughout all thy coasts, but thou shalt not anoint thyself with the oil; for thine olive shall cast his fruit.
(41) Thou shalt beget sons and daughters, but thou shalt not enjoy them; for they shall go into captivity.
(42) All thy trees and fruit of thy land shall the locust consume.
(43) The stranger that is within thee shall get up above thee very high; and thou shalt come down very low.
(44) He shall lend to thee, and thou shalt not lend to him: he shall be the head, and thou shalt be the tail.
(45) Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded thee:
(46) And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever.
(47) Because thou servedst not the LORD thy God with joyfulness, and with gladness of heart, for the abundance of all things;
(48) Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.
(49) The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand;
(50) A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young:
(51) And he shall eat the fruit of thy cattle, and the fruit of thy land, until thou be destroyed: which also shall not leave thee either corn, wine, or oil, or the increase of thy kine, or flocks of thy sheep, until he have destroyed thee.
(52) And he shall besiege thee in all thy gates, until thy high and fenced walls come down, wherein thou trustedst, throughout all thy land: and he shall besiege thee in all thy gates throughout all thy land, which the LORD thy God hath given thee.
(53) And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters, which the LORD thy God hath given thee, in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee:
(54) So that the man that is tender among you, and very delicate, his eye shall be evil toward his brother, and toward the wife of his bosom, and toward the remnant of his children which he shall leave:
(55) So that he will not give to any of them of the flesh of his children whom he shall eat: because he hath nothing left him in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee in all thy gates.
(56) The tender and delicate woman among you, which would not adventure to set the sole of her foot upon the ground for delicateness and tenderness, her eye shall be evil toward the husband of her bosom, and toward her son, and toward her daughter,
(57) And toward her young one that cometh out from between her feet, and toward her children which she shall bear: for she shall eat them for want of all things secretly in the siege and straitness, wherewith thine enemy shall distress thee in thy gates.
(58) If thou wilt not observe to do all the words of this law that are written in this book, that thou mayest fear this glorious and fearful name, THE LORD THY GOD;
(59) Then the LORD will make thy plagues wonderful, and the plagues of thy seed, even great plagues, and of long continuance, and sore sicknesses, and of long continuance.
(60) Moreover he will bring upon thee all the diseases of Egypt, which thou wast afraid of; and they shall cleave unto thee.
(61) Also every sickness, and every plague, which is not written in the book of this law, them will the LORD bring upon thee, until thou be destroyed.
(62) And ye shall be left few in number, whereas ye were as the stars of heaven for multitude; because thou wouldest not obey the voice of the LORD thy God.
(63) And it shall come to pass, that as the LORD rejoiced over you to do you good, and to multiply you; so the LORD will rejoice over you to destroy you, and to bring you to nought; and ye shall be plucked from off the land whither thou goest to possess it.
(64) And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone.
(65) And among these nations shalt thou find no ease, neither shall the sole of thy foot have rest: but the LORD shall give thee there a trembling heart, and failing of eyes, and sorrow of mind:
(66) And thy life shall hang in doubt before thee; and thou shalt fear day and night, and shalt have none assurance of thy life:
(67) In the morning thou shalt say, Would God it were even! and at even thou shalt say, Would God it were morning! for the fear of thine heart wherewith thou shalt fear, and for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see.
(68) And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.


Israel was warned many times by many prophets, their temple was destroyed twice as punishment for breaking their Covenant with God. Finally that Covenant was totally and permanently broken by Jews in Jesus times!

God does not have any obligations towards the fleshly Israel.

His Covenant was broken permanently by Israel and God is not obliged to any promises He had made in past.

Instead He has made a New Covenant, based on totally different Law and His promises of everlasting life, based on shed blood of His Son, murdered by Synagogue of Satana, which again do exists in a modern day.

Christianity is now God's Chosen Nation.


Now questions are:

Did Israel recognized Christ in His time?
Does Israel recognize Christ today?
Does Israel fulfilling Torah in their politics? (Usury, jubilee years, Sabbath's and whole Torah commandments?
Does Israel has a king in name of Yahweh, who is obedient to God's Covenant!?
Does Israel spreads God's Word to other nations?



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Posted 22 February 2010 - 09:26 PM

Two Churches in View

We are seeing on the scene today two religious bodies foretold by the Lord: one the false, and the other the true Church of the Lord Jesus Christ. The ascended Jesus told the prophet and apostle John of these two distinctive churches that would be on the world scene at the time of His coming again.

The Laodicean Church

Jesus’ prophecy about the Laodicean church was transcribed by John while the old apostle was exiled on the Isle of Patmos: “And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see” (Revelation 3:14-18).



Jesus Calls His Sheep to Come Out of This False System--This church has among its huge multitudes the apostate believers–the ones who have fallen away. It is condemned by Christ in harsh terms. Still He calls those who have fallen away to come back to their family status, that He might clothe them in righteous robes of godly works. There are true believers in this body, and there are the lost souls. Their shepherds are mostly of the ravenous wolf variety, I’m of the conviction. This body, minus the born again among them, will go into the tribulation hour when Christ calls “Come up here!” to all who belong to Him.

The Philadelphian Church

Jesus has no condemnation for this church, only commendation. The King of all kings has some thrilling things to say to this body: “And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth; I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name. Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown. Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches” (Revelation 3:7-13).

Fascinating Words--Jesus commends the church that has remained true to His calling. This is the Body–His Bride—that will join Him in the air when He calls. (Read John 14:1-3; 1 Corinthians 15: 51-55; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; Revelation 4:1-2.)



There will be those who, if I do not clarify, send notes asking if I, based upon this statement, believe that only some Christians will be taken in the rapture. Let me be very clear: ALL Christians, whether they are in or out of the holy will of God, will go to be with the Lord at the rapture of the Church. This is scripturally provable. The Apostle Paul said, under Holy Spirit inspiration: “Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed” (1 Corinthians 15: 51-52).

Every single individual, dead and alive, who has come to salvation will be changed in one moment of rapture. Paul said “ALL” because God told him to say “ALL” will be changed. God cannot lie!

It is fascinating to consider the Lord’s words in this account of His love for the church of Philadelphia. Jesus told John to write: “Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.”

I do not think it far-fetched to see in the Lord’s words a condemnation of those who declare that they have now inherited the mantle of God’s chosen people, the Jews–the literal nation of Israel. We call this replacement theology. This is a terrible error in some cases, and a downright satanic lie put forth in other cases.

No one and nothing has replaced Israel in God’s never-changing regime. He is the same yesterday, today, and forever! The literal descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob will receive each and every promise God made to them. Those promises have not and will not be given to anyone other.

Jesus indicates here, perhaps, that those of His faithful Church walking most closely in His ways will hold to this truth about Israel and belief in the veracity of His promises to the physical descendants of the patriarchs.

Perhaps Jesus is saying as recorded in Revelation 3:9 that those who have denied that His promises to Israel are any longer in effect will be brought to bow at the feet of the faithful Philadelphian church. Possibly, they will have to admit that the faithful Church was right and true in this all-important matter to the God of heaven.

Another fascinating statement is found in chapter 3, verse 10. Jesus told John to write: “Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.”

The word “temptation” here means “testing.” Jesus promises to keep from a specific hour of “testing” those who have remained faithful to the word of His patience. The terms to consider are “testing” and “patience.” The Philadelphian church, Jesus says in this foretelling, has been faithful to His Word about His “patience.” Those of this church will, therefore, be kept out of the hour of “testing.”

Jesus said, as recorded in the gospel of Luke: “In your patience possess ye your souls” (Luke 21:19). What “patience” was the Lord referring to, here? The Apostle Peter clarifies for us: “The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance” (2 Peter 3:9).

The “patience” of the Lord is wrapped up in the all-important issue of salvation of lost souls. This is God’s word of His patience. Those who are truly in His family have kept in their hearts the Word of His patience –trust in Him for their salvation. These who are alive at the time before the hour of “testing,” who keep the word of His patience, will not go into that hour of “testing” –the tribulation era, Daniel’s seventieth week.

Does this mean that because believers “keep” the word of His patience –hang on to our salvation belief—we can lose it if we don’t “keep” the word of His patience? No. We can’t lose the “word of His patience” because the Word is Jesus Christ:

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men” (John 1:1-4).

“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me” (John 14: 6).

Jesus, who is the Word, who is the life –eternal life—said, “My Father, which gave [them] me, is greater than all; and no [man] is able to pluck [them] out of my Father's hand” (John 10:29).

Finally, the Apostle Paul, through Holy Spirit inspiration, nails down the truth that it is impossible to do other than “keep the word of my patience,” as Jesus said it. “For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord” (Romans 8:38-39).

Testing Time for Nominal Christians

The term “nominal Christians” is used to describe those who are Christians who claim Christianity as their “religion.” These are, however, Christians of convenience. They don’t mind the pretense of being associated with the name of Jesus Christ, but truly living under His governance when the requirements include their turning in repentance from their favorite sins is something they refuse to do.

This is not to imply in any way that one can lose his or her salvation once the person has truly accepted (believed in) Christ for salvation. We looked at that previously. One who is truly God’s child –and there is but one way to become His child, remember John 14:6—will not continually wallow in the pig pen of deliberate sinfulness. The child of God will, like the prodigal son, at some point get out of the pig pen and return to the Father for cleansing, with the intention of living in the Father’s house, not in that proverbial pig pen.

Tragically, many of today’s churches are of the nominal Christian variety. The pastors preach and the teachers teach feel good earthly doctrine not unlike that of the secular and corporate worlds. These are those of the churches Jesus prophesied will NOT be kept out of the time of testing (tribulation).

The nominal churches have encouraged millions, by keeping their pew-sitters in darkness, to believe all is well with their souls. This is the attitude cultivated in those church settings, even though deeply in the congregants’ spirits there is the void that only Christ can fill.

The Mark of the Beast

These nominal Christians–those who don’t know Christ for salvation—will have to endure the time of testing –the seven years of tribulation—if they do not come to Christ before the rapture of the true Church.

Perhaps --even likely—it will be the decision of whether to take the hellish mark of the beast (Antichrist) that will be the most agonizing “time of testing” Jesus foretold that His Church will not have to endure (Revelation 3:10).

The end-times signals are literally blaring at this generation from every direction. Worldwide crisis is obviously afflicting all nations, each of which Jesus prophesied will be in great distress with perplexity (Luke 21: 25) at the time of His return. The drive toward one world economy, government, and religion is in our headline news on an hourly basis. Society and culture reflect the violence and corruption Jesus said will make the time He returns like it was in the days of Noah, and the times of Lot in Sodom.

Tomorrow Too Late!

The crisis overspreading the world might look for a time like all will be clear and sunny again. Certainly, many look to the new presidential administration as promising leadership that will lead America and the world out of darkness that has begun to close in on even the homes that shelter us. But, regardless of temporal fixes to the monetary madness and the governmental gyrations, the tribulation storm approaches with astonishing swiftness. Only Christ can shelter from that monstrous tempest. Tomorrow might well be too late. Don’t go into the time of testing along with the world of lost souls. Accept Christ today.

“(For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now [is] the accepted time; behold, now [is] the day of salvation.)” (2 Corinthians 6:2).


By Terry JAMES FROM RAPTUREREADY.COM

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