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Post icon  Posted 01 November 2008 - 09:09 PM

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Obama Vows To Create 'Civilian National Security Force'...

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Obama: 'I Will Change The World'
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Barack Obama has promised to "change the world" if he is elected US President.

With just three days to go he and his opponent John McCain are touring key states in an effort to woo undecided voters.

Senator Obama is still almost seven points ahead in the Real Clear Politics poll of polls, but the gap has narrowed slightly.

At a rally in Henderson, Nevada, he warned his supporters against complacency.

"At this defining moment in history, you can give the country the change we need," he said.

Sky News' Michelle Clifford, who was at the rally, said Mr Obama was trying to leave nothing to chance.

"He'll be using every ounce of his resources to get the vote out," she said.

At the same time Senator McCain was rallying his followers in Newport Beach, Virginia.

In a usually safe Republican state, which is threatening to go to the Democrats, he asked for help on the home stretch.

He said: "Let me state the obvious again, we need to win Virginia on the 4th of November and with your help we're going to win and bring real change to Washington.

The campaigning has been tough for both men, but Sky News' Robert Nisbet, who has been following the McCain bandwagon, says the toll is beginning to show on the older man.

"Being on the road at rally after rally is exhausting and Mr McCain appears to be tired," he said.

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If a person will not listen to Torah, even his prayer is an abomination. Proverbs 28:9

Teshuvah is the Hebrew word which means returning. In the spiritual sense teshuvah means returning to the Creator of the universe Yahweh our God. It means turning away from the worldly way of life and turning back to His way of life. Since He has given us a standard for our lives this means returning to obedience to His standard, His teachings, His commands, His Word!

Awake, you sleepers, from your sleep! Rouse yourselves, you slumberers, out of your slumber! Examine your deeds, and turn to YHWH in repentance. Remember your Creator, you who are caught up in the daily round, losing sight of eternal truth; you are wasting your years in vain pursuits that neither profit nor save. Look closely at yourselves; improve your ways and your deeds. Abandon your evil ways, your unworthy schemes, every one of you!

"Awake, thou that sleepest" Ephesians 5:14
"It is high time to awake out of sleep" Romans 13:11
"Awake to righteousness and sin not" 1 Corinthians 15:34


So rid yourselves of all vulgarity and obvious evil, and receive meekly the Word implanted in you that can save your lives. Don't deceive yourselves by only hearing what the Word says, but do it! James 1:21,22


For this mitzvah { commandment } which I am giving you today is not too hard for you, it is not beyond your reach. It isn't in the sky, so that you need to ask, 'Who will go up into the sky for us, bring it to us and make us hear it, so that we can obey it?' Likewise, it isn't beyond the sea, so that you need to ask, 'Who will cross the sea for us, bring it to us and make us hear it, so that we can obey it?' On the contrary, the word is very close to you - in your mouth, even in your heart; therefore, you can do it! D'varim 30:11-14 {Deut.}


..You know at what point of history we stand; so it is high time for you to rouse yourselves from sleep; for the final deliverance is nearer than when we first came to trust. The night is almost over, the day is almost here. So let us put aside the deeds of darkness and arm ourselves with the weapons of light. Let us live properly, as people do in the daytime - not partying and getting drunk, not engaging in sexual immorality and other excesses, not quarrelling and being jealous. Instead, clothe yourselves with the Lord Yahshua the Messiah; and don't waste your time thinking about how to provide for the sinful desires of your old nature. Romans 13:11-14

For God did not call us to live an unclean life but a holy one. 1 Thess 4:7,8 5:23



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Tshuvah

Shalom,

I thought that it would be nice to have a free on line journal so we can keep all of our dreams in one spot.

A new journal will be added for each new member. You will be moderator of your own journal. This site is for journals only, not for having your dreams interpreted. I will add links to sites that help you understand your dreams. The grace of the Lord Yahshua the Messiah, the love of Yahweh our God and the fellowship of the Ruach HaKodesh { Holy Spirit} be with you!
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Posted 01 November 2008 - 09:21 PM

The "Civilian National Guard"? Do I sense shades of Hitler's SS stormtoopers betraying and turning in citizens with antipodal beliefs and views against the "Regime". Mark my word, Obama will become a PSYCHO possessed by his power. God showed me a demon lives in him.


This one dramatizes your point even more so… http://www.youtube.c...feature=related



Here’s even more on Obama’s diabolical plan for a NATIONALIZED NAZI SS TYPE POLICE FORCE…


Gateway Pundit
WHERE HOPE FINALLY MADE A COMEBACK.
SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 01, 2008

Obama's Plans For Marxist-like National Civilian Security Force Back in the News

Obama's plan to create a National Civilian Security Force similar to what they have in other Marxist regimes is on the front page of the Drudge Report today.

Earlier this year Barack Obama announced his plan to build a massive "civilian national security force" here in America. It would be just as well funded as the US military.

Here is Barack Obama's plan for American society from a previous campaign speech.
The Bulletin reported, via LGF:
"Loving your country shouldn't just mean watching fireworks on the 4th of July," he said. "Loving your country must mean accepting your responsibility to do your part to change it. If you do, your life will be richer, our country will be stronger."...

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set," he said Wednesday. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded."
Unfortunately for America, Barack Obama's security plan is already practiced.
Not in America but in Marxist regimes.
Gusano at Babalu grew up with a civilian national security force... in Cuba:
Basically, what Obama is talking about is creating a Committee for the Defense of Liberal Ideology and Political correctness funded by a half trillion taxpayer dollars. National Security for this crowd is not about stopping terrorists from killing our children. National Security means to teach our children to understand the terrorists and their motivations so that our children can learn how to live their lives submissively so as not to offend the sensitivities of the very sensitive America haters.

Their version of National Security is to force you to act for the common good of society and not in your own best interest. Since this goes against human nature, the half trillion dollar “Civilian National Security Force” will have to force Americans to change their nature and create a new citizen that is self sacrificing and collective in nature-an ant-like new man, like Che's and Fidel's new man.

This concept is eerily similar to the Castroite CDR block snitch network that I grew up with only better funded and more ideologically pure.
No wonder the people in Florida are loading up on firearms just in case Obama wins.

SEE SOURCE: http://gatewaypundit...e-national.html


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Obama's 'civilian national security force'

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Perhaps he could also organize the teens of the country into a group and call them brown shirts like the little man with the funny mustache did in the 30's.

Obama's 'civilian national security force'

Wednesday, July 16, 2008


BETWEEN THE LINES

Barack Obama's plan
for giant police force
Exclusive: Joseph Farah exposes senator's desire
for military-sized 'civilian national security force'


Posted: July 15, 2008
1:00 am Eastern


By Joseph Farah


With all the reporters covering the major presidential candidates, it amazes me no one ever seems to ask the right questions.

For several days now, WND has been hounding Barack Obama's campaign about a statement he made July 2 in Colorado Springs – a statement that blew my mind, one that has had me scratching my head ever since.

In talking about his plans to double the size of the Peace Corps and nearly quadruple the size of AmeriCorps and the size of the nation's military services, he made this rather shocking (and chilling) pledge: "We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

Now, since I've never heard anyone inside or out of government use the phrase "civilian national security force" before, I was more than a little curious about what he has in mind.

Is it possible I am the only journalist in America who sought clarification on this campaign promise?

What does it mean?

If we're going to create some kind of national police force as big, powerful and well-funded as our combined U.S. military forces, isn't this rather a big deal?

I thought Democrats generally believed the U.S. spent too much on the military. How is it possible their candidate is seeking to create some kind of massive but secret national police force that will be even bigger than the Army, Navy, Marines and Air Force put together?

Now, maybe he was misquoted by the Congressional Quarterly and the Chicago Tribune. I guess it's possible. If so, you would think he would want to set the record straight. Maybe he misspoke. That has certainly happened before. Again, why wouldn't the rest of my colleagues show some curiosity about such a major and, frankly, bone-chilling proposition?

Are we talking about creating a police state here?

The U.S. Army alone has nearly 500,000 troops. That doesn't count reserves or National Guard. In 2007, the U.S. Defense budget was $439 billion.

Is Obama serious about creating some kind of domestic security force bigger and more expensive than that?

If not, why did he say it? What did he mean?

So far, despite our attempts to find out, the Obama campaign is not talking.

At this point all I can do is enlist your help – and the help of every other journalist who still thinks the American people have a right to know the specifics about a presidential candidate's biggest and boldest initiatives before the election. I also want to ask radio talk-show hosts across America to start asking this same question. I have a feeling if others join our quest, we might yet get clarification on this proposal from Obama.

Who will Obama appoint to administer this new "civilian national security force"? Where will the money come from? Where in the Constitution does he see justification for the federal government creating such a domestic army?

The questions are endless.

But before we can hope to get to the specifics, we need much more in the way of generalizations from Obama.

Certainly there have been initiatives like this elsewhere – Cuba, the Soviet Union, China, Venezuela, North Korea. But has anything like this ever been proposed in a free country?

I have a feeling there would be more questions from the press if I myself had proposed the creation of something as preposterous as a "civilian national security force" than there has been about this proposal by the presidential candidate currently leading in most of the polls. I'm quite sure I would be hung out to dry as some kind of Nazi thug. Meanwhile, Obama makes this wild suggestion and it is met with a collective yawn from the watchdogs.

Help me out here. What am I missing?

Can I get a hand?
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Posted 01 November 2008 - 10:10 PM

You beat me to it Seven.

The similarities between Obama and Hilter are only getting clearer.

Makes you wonder if the main reason for Obama's summer trip to Germany was to see how they setup the concentration camps.

THIS GUY MUST BE DEFEATED NOW, NOT FOUR YEARS FROM NOW.
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Posted 01 November 2008 - 10:11 PM

State employee says
she was ordered to check out

"Joe the plumber".

Friday, October 31, 2008 10:21 PM
By Randy Ludlow

The Columbus Dispatch
Vanessa Niekamp said that when she was asked to run a child-support check on Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher on Oct. 16, she thought it routine. A supervisor told her the man had contacted the state agency about his case.

Niekamp didn't know she just had checked on "Joe the Plumber," who was elevated the night before to presidential politics prominence as Republican John McCain's example in a debate of an average American.

The senior manager would not learn about "Joe" for another week, when she said her boss informed her and directed her to write an e-mail stating her computer check was a legitimate inquiry.

The reason Niekamp said she was given for checking if there was a child-support case on Wurzelbacher does not match the reason given by the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services.

Director Helen Jones-Kelley said her agency checks people who are "thrust into the public spotlight," amid suggestions they may have come into money, to see if they owe support or are receiving undeserved public assistance.

Niekamp told The Dispatch she is unfamiliar with the practice of checking on the newly famous. "I've never done that before, I don't know of anybody in my office who does that and I don't remember anyone ever doing that," she said today.

Democrat Gov. Ted Strickland and Jones-Kelley, both supporters of Democrat Barack Obama, have denied political motives in checking on Wurzelbacher. The Toledo-area resident later endorsed McCain. State officials say any information on "Joe" is confidential and was not released.

Today, Strickland press secretary Keith Dailey said neither the governor's office nor Job and Family Services officials could comment due to an ongoing investigation by Ohio's inspector general.

Republican legislators have called the checks suspicious and Jones-Kelley's reason for them flimsy. They are demanding to know whether state computers were accessed in an attempt to dig up dirt on Wurzelbacher.

Jones-Kelley has revealed that her agency also checked to see if Wurzelbacher was receiving welfare assistance or owed unemployment compensation taxes. "Joe the Plumber" has said he is not involved in a child-support case.

About 3 p.m. on Oct. 16, Niekamp said Carrie Brown, assistant deputy director for child support, asked her to run Wurzelbacher through the computer. Citing privacy laws, Niekamp would not say what, if anything, was found on "Joe."

On Oct. 23, Niekamp said Doug Thompson, deputy director for child support, told her she had checked on "Joe the Plumber." Thompson "literally demanded" that she write an e-mail to the agency's chief privacy officer stating she checked the case for child-support purposes, she said.

Thompson told her that Jones-Kelley said Wurzelbacher might buy a plumbing business and could owe support. Thompson said he replied that he "would check him out."

Niekamp, 38, a senior child-support manager, said she never heard any discussion of politics amid what her supervisors told her about the checks on Wurzelbacher.

Worried about her $69,000-a-year job and potential criminal charges, the 15-year state employee said she went to Inspector General Thomas P. Charles on Oct. 24. She has seen employees fired, and dismissed one herself, for illegally accessing personal information in support cases. Niekamp, a registered Republican, said politics played no role in what she told investigators.

The e-mail that Niekamp said she wrote was not among records provided today to The Dispatch in response to a public-records request. Nor did the agency, as required by state law, say it withheld any records.

Strickland spokesman Dailey later said one e-mail was withheld from The Dispatch because its release is prohibited by federal or state laws that forbid the release of information on the state's child-support system. Daily said he was neither confirming nor denying the existence of a case on Wurzelbacher.

Looks like obama has his private citezens at work.
found info at alpha news daily.
under Seattle paper prints adresses and photos of homes with republicans signs.
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Posted 01 November 2008 - 11:47 PM

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The "Civilian National Guard"? Do I sense shades of Hitler's SS stormtoopers betraying and turning in citizens with antipodal beliefs and views against the "Regime". Mark my word, Obama will become a PSYCHO possessed by his power. God showed me a demon lives in him.


This one dramatizes your point even more so… http://www.youtube.c...feature=related



Here’s even more on Obama’s diabolical plan for a NATIONALIZED NAZI SS TYPE POLICE FORCE…


Just out of curiosity, as long as we've been asked to mark your words, how long do you think until Obama has this in place? I just thought I would keep track.
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Posted 02 November 2008 - 12:02 AM

View Postdiverteach, on Nov 1 2008, 10:10 PM, said:

You beat me to it Seven.

The similarities between Obama and Hilter are only getting clearer.

Makes you wonder if the main reason for Obama's summer trip to Germany was to see how they setup the concentration camps.

THIS GUY MUST BE DEFEATED NOW, NOT FOUR YEARS FROM NOW.








Also, Diverteach, people do not realize that "Nationalized Healthcare" (which will be one of Obama’s main agendas) will have a mental health element attached to it which will play a major role in funneling "patients" to those camps, just as the biomedical infrastructure of the Nazi's did. In particular, what the "regime" will "redefine" as "mental aberrations" and "mental illness", i.e. Christian Fundamentalism, will actually only serve to identify and incarcerate dissidents to the state.

Robert Jay Lifton in his book “The Nazi Doctors” spoke of the societal indicators to vigilantly look for in a nation that is moving towards what he termed a “genocidal bureaucracy”. Today the U.S. is a spitting mirror image of the Pre-Nazi Weimer Republic with its homosexual tolerance and “death culture” in the arts and media. He explained that a behemoth biomedical infrastructure is extremely key in establishing a genocidal bureaucracy and serves the purpose to hide the goings on of genocidal extermination. The death culture serves to indoctrinate young initiates into obedience and allegiance to the New State and it emotionally disenfranchises the initiate from the human factor, thus desensitizing them to the processes of genocide, itself, as future operatives of genocide where they will have absolutely no emotional regard for human life.

As I’ve mentioned in an older thread, the U.S. is moving towards a New Nazism having an “acceptable facelift” unrecognized by the untrained eye as a New Fascism Left of Center and appearing to the unaware as a New Patriotic Nationalism; this was the German perception of their Nazism and the National Socialist Workers Party. It appears that Obama has been christened by the Illuminati to lead this call, and the FEMA camps are the network to accomplish this along with the 1 million acre site in Alaska deemed the “Alaska Mental Siberia” established by the Alaska Mental Health Bill and Land Act that members of Communist Party-USA pushed through the Democratic Party.

NOTE: COMMUNIST PARTY-USA ENDORSED OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT; AND HILLARY WAS A MEMBER OF CP-USA.

This is mentioned in the Appendices in Margaret Millard’s book, “The Rewriting of America’s History” where she speaks of a defector, Kenneth Goff, from CP-USA who wrote, published and was subsequently assassinated (1972), “A Synthesis of the Russian Textbook on Psychopolitics”, divulging their strategies, including the Helgian Principle used by the Clinton Administration in an attempt to launch at that time the genocidal health(s)care scheme. What’s integral is the euphemism “mental healing” and the setting up of “Regional Healthcare Centers” for periodic MANDATORY check ups s the Clinton scheme mapped out, obviously serving the purpose of “dissident identification” and processing into the genocidal system…

THIS IS WHAT IS CLEARLY INSTORE FOR ALL AMERICANS UNDER OBAMA.



SEE: http://www.geocities...hopolitics.html

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It is the most common of miracles, fashioned of fleecy clouds a handful of stars tossed into the night sky."
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For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
- John 3:16 -

I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.
- Galatians 2:20 -

Know therefore that the LORD your God is God; he is the faithful God, keeping his covenant of love to a thousand generations of those who love him and keep his commands.
- Deuteronomy 7:9 -

For the LORD loves the just and will not forsake his faithful ones. . .
- Psalm 37:28 -

And so we know and rely on the love God has for us. God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him.
- 1 John 4:16 -

Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'
This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'
- Matthew 22:37-39 -



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