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Posted 14 May 2008 - 09:33 AM

The following is very exciting news.
I have studied the Great White Buffalo Prophecy, of the last leg, representing the
`end times` of our Christian faith. Since 1995, I have compared the Hopi prophecies
to the white buffalo relationship to the symbolic understanding of Israel's red heifer
sacrifice.

And indeed, just as the 12 Tribes of Israel set up camp/banners to all four directions
and each of the Tribes were assigned geography stations, as you read the following
`Ojibwa` new evidence, of the connection to Amerindians from Israel . . . you also
will see why the former `titled` pagan prophecies of the Amerindians, are in reality an
extention of our Judeo-Christian roots . . . Thank God (IHVH) for DNA testing . . .

The points of the mannerism and the ritual cultural similarities, if you have knowledge
of the 12 Tribes of Israel, you will see the mirror/shadow between the 12 Tribes
of Israel and the following excerpt about the Ojibwa.

Then scroll down to see the authority testing behind the DNA, update: britam.org


Native American/First Peoples; Ojibwa
Amerindians From Israel? New Evidence?
http://britam.org/DN...tml#Amerindians

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ojibwa

The use of petroforms, petroglyphs, and pictographs was common throughout their traditional territories. Petroforms and medicine wheels were a way to teach the important concepts of four directions, astronomical observations about the seasons, and as a memorizing tool for certain stories and beliefs.

The Ojibwe people were divided into a number of odoodeman (clans; singular: odoodem) named primarily for animal totems (or doodem, as an Ojibwe person would say this word in English). The five original totems were Wawaazisii (Bullhead), Baswenaazhi (Echo-maker, i.e., Crane), Aan'aawenh (Pintail Duck), Nooke (Tender, i.e., Bear) and Moozwaanowe ("Little" Moose-tail). The Crane totem was the most vocal among the Ojibwa, and the Bear was the largest — so large, in fact, that it was sub-divided into body parts such as the head, the ribs and the feet.

The sweatlodge is still used during important ceremonies about the four directions and to pass along the oral history of the people. Teaching lodges are still common today to teach the next generations about the language and ancient ways of the past. These old ways, ideas, and teachings are still preserved today with these living ceremonies.

They also developed a form of pictorial writing used in religious rites of the Midewiwin and recorded on birch bark scrolls and possibly on rock. The sacred scrolls are complicated with a lot of historical, geometrical, and mathematical knowledge communicated through the many complex pictures



Native American/First Peoples; Ojibwa, Nuu-Chah-Nulth, Sioux, Na-Dene-Navaho,Yakima.

Amerindians From Israel? New Evidence?



Brit-Am Now no. 1148
http://britam.org/now/1148Now.html


Contents:
1. Amerindians From Israel? New Evidence?
2. Encouragement
3. List of Brit-Am Secular Proofs: National Characteristics


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1. Amerindians From Israel? New Evidence?


We have been asked several times whether or not the Amerindians had
Israelite Origins.
For some of our answers and discussion on the matter, see:

Amerindians
http://www.britam.or...merindians.html

Our answer to the first question in that article more or less sums up
the Brit-Am approach, i.e.
(1. Question: Are the Amerindians from the Lost Tribes?
Answer: People of Hebraic descent from the Lost Tribes from different
regions and at various times reached the Americas before Colombus.
Nevertheless the overall impression is that the majority of
Amerindians were not of Israelite origin though some may well have been.
We also have stated that even though some of the Amerindians may have
been descended from Israel
on the whole they could not be considered Israelites since they did
not fulfill the Brit-Am Ephraimite Critieria:
http://www.britam.org/criteria.html


We still hold by these answers and they apply in all similar cases.
Nevertheless it is worth noting that new evidence may well strengthen
the Amerinidian case concerning at least a part of them.
In BAMAD no.29
#1. Amerindians-Middle East-Druze DNA Connection Proven?
http://britam.org/DN...tml#Amerindians

We bring extracts that in summarized form may suggest the following
theory that seems to be in the process of formation:
In Ancient times mt(female-transmitted)DNA haplogroup X2 was widely
prevalent in the Middle East
and perhaps amongst the Ancient Israelites in the Galilee area.
A group whose members included those bearing mtDNA X2 went to North
America where the X2
experienced a minor change becoming X2a.
Their descendants are especially prominent amongst the Native
American/First Peoples; Ojibwa, Nuu-Chah-Nulth, Sioux, Na-Dene-Navaho,
Yakima.
Meanwhile in the Middle East most bearers of X2 disappeared through
Genetic Drift (died out,
had more males than females with the extra males marrying non-X2
females, or females from outside, etc)
with only the Druzes retaining the original large proportions of X2
in their population.
The Druze were able to do this since they are a small community,
isolated, not intermarrying with others,
and usually marrying only within their own village or extended family.
See:
http://www.britam.or...ndians.html#any
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Posted 14 May 2008 - 09:44 AM

More research on the similar characteristics of the Ojibwa and the prophecy of the `bear`
in Revelation about 3 tribes; Judah, Benjamin and Levi (1Kings 12:21, 2Chron 11:14).


Native American/First Peoples; Ojibwa
Amerindians From Israel? New Evidence?
http://britam.org/DN...tml#Amerindians


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ojibwa
Read about the Bear, sub-divided into body parts such as the head, the ribs and the feet.


Then read about Bear = Medo-Persian Empire


Read about the 2nd Beast is the Bear of Revelation:

And read how the interp matches the Ojibwa understanding of bear.


http://www.bibleinsi...com/beasts.html
In this case though the 3 ribs in the mouth of the bear would
represent the weaker house of Judah, which was composed of
3 tribes; Judah, Benjamin and Levi (1Kings 12:21, 2Chron 11:14).



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ojibwa
The Ojibwe people were divided into a number of odoodeman (clans; singular: odoodem) named primarily for animal totems (or doodem, as an Ojibwe person would say this word in English). The five original totems were Wawaazisii (Bullhead), Baswenaazhi (Echo-maker, i.e., Crane), Aan'aawenh (Pintail Duck), Nooke (Tender, i.e., Bear) and Moozwaanowe ("Little" Moose-tail). The Crane totem was the most vocal among the Ojibwa, and the Bear was the largest — so large, in fact, that it was sub-divided into body parts such as the head, the ribs and the feet.


Click here: 4 Beasts Vision - Daniel chapter 7
http://www.bibleinsi...com/beasts.html

The 4 beasts vision of Daniel chapter 7 are commonly explained as follows:

Lion = Babylonian Empire
Bear = Medo-Persian Empire
Leopard = Greek Empire
4th Beast = Roman Empire


2ND BEAST - BEAR

2) The nation of Israel after the division.

Again the two sides of the bear would represent the 'house of
Israel' and the 'house of Judah'.

In this case though the 3 ribs in the mouth of the bear would
represent the weaker house of Judah, which was composed of
3 tribes; Judah, Benjamin and Levi (1Kings 12:21, 2Chron 11:14).
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The carpenter stretcheth out his rule; he marketh it out with a line; he fitteth it with planes, and he marketh it out with the compass, and maketh it after the figure of a man, according to the beauty of a man; that it may remain in the house.


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Posted 14 May 2008 - 10:05 AM

This sounds like a type of national British-Israelism.

There are a number of websites out there desperately trying to prove what the false prophet Herbert Armstrong of the Worldwide Church of God propagated, namely, that the British and those in North America are the literal physical descendants of Israel. Thus, deadening any significance for national Israel today, and their restoration as a nation.

This is a Satanic deception aimed to offend the Jew from accepting the Messiah, and to divide Christians over this obvious heresy.
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Posted 14 May 2008 - 10:17 AM

View PostShekel, on May 14 2008, 10:05 AM, said:

This sounds like a type of national British-Israelism.

There are a number of websites out there desperately trying to prove what the false prophet Herbert Armstrong of the Worldwide Church of God propagated, namely, that the British and those in North America are the literal physical descendants of Israel. Thus, deadening any significance for national Israel today, and their restoration as a nation.

This is a Satanic deception aimed to offend the Jew from accepting the Messiah, and to divide Christians over this obvious heresy.



And indeed if that is the motive of the DNA testing of the Amerindian relationship
to Israel, I have no authority nor experience in that matter. You must . . . so I will review
the commentaries.

However, what happens if the DNA is correct about the Amerindian relationship to Israel ?

And did you see any similar traits between the Ojibwa and the 12 Tribes . . .

That was my point.

The pattern shadow aspect of the cultural relationship between the two parties.
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Posted 14 May 2008 - 11:08 AM

The following is food for thought, not exact cultural applications.

However, it is interesting in the DNA studies . . . perspective.


Native American/First Peoples; Ojibwa
Amerindians From Israel? New Evidence?
http://britam.org/DN...tml#Amerindians


Some of the application assignment of animal names to the 12 Tribes of Israel :

http://www.akhlah.co...s_of_israel.php

Jacob later blesses Benjamin while on his deathbed, calling Benjamin "a vicious wolf, devouring the prey in the morning, and dividing the spoil at night" (Genesis 49:27).

Naphtali's blessing from his father called him "a running deer" (Genesis 49:21).

Dan Tribes emblem seal is a image of a serpent/snake.

Issachar Tribes emblem seal is a image of donkey/---.

Judah Tribes emblem seal is a image of a lion.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ojibwa
The five original totems were Wawaazisii (Bullhead), Baswenaazhi (Echo-maker, i.e., Crane), Aan'aawenh (Pintail Duck), Nooke (Tender, i.e., Bear) and Moozwaanowe ("Little" Moose-tail). The Crane totem was the most vocal among the Ojibwa, and the Bear was the largest — so large, in fact, that it was sub-divided into body parts such as the head, the ribs and the feet.


http://www.akhlah.co...ition/camp.html

Eastern
Tribes
• Judah
• Issachar
• Zebulun



Southern
Tribes
• Reuben
• Simeon
• Gad


Western
Tribes
• Ephraim
• Manasseh
• Benjamin


Northern
Tribes
• Dan
• Asher
• Naphtali



Above ^ is a diagram web link, to view the geography of the camp of the 12 Tribes.


And below is a link to Amerindian traditions to their geography applications :


( for demonstration purpose )
http://www.shannonth...l_teachings.htm
Four Directions Stones (stones 2-5): East (Teacher), South (Healer), West (Visionary), North (Warrior) (within these stones are the four colours of human; These stones sit at the four corners of the centre stone).


And indeed, the `warrior` tribes of the 12 Tribes of Israel include
Dan (meaning : a Judge) and Naphtali (meaning : Wrestling) = Northern Tribe ( warrior )

And Joseph and Levi (Priesthood) . . . are in the western section of the 12
Tribes of Israel, and indeed the western tribe represents `visionary`
attributes.

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Posted 14 May 2008 - 12:11 PM

The Amerindian . . . connection continues . . .




http://www.torah-voi...ben%20Yosef.htm

Maggid ben Yoseif / Jerusalem Torah Voice in Exile
Note: Y'shua (Jesus) stated that "if any man testify of himself, the Truth is not with him." For 25 years, in an attempt not to commit this sin of pride, I have refrained from relating much of this testimony or disseminating it by writing. However, the Spirit bears witness to now begin writing down my story. "You have a testimony and it has to be made known." As this unfolds in posts that will be added and indexed below, the reader may judge whether it testifies of ben Yoseif alone or whether it testifies to a Greater Message about a Greater Movement and a Great People -- at least the Torah calls the family of Joseph-M'nashe Gadol (Great).

Throughout this testimony, I will be interweaving links to relevant parts of the website. When completed, I hope that it will be possible to access the entire website from within this story.

The story -- my story -- begins with a petition to the Almighty:

Read story @

http://www.torah-voi...ben%20Yosef.htm




http://www.torah-voi...rg/glossary.htm

Note: Maggid ben Yoseif is asking for donations of used Torahs and Haftorah's for a Torah study at the Eastern Gate of the Sacred Four Corners. Native Apache and Indio-Chicano who he has come to know in sweat lodges and at other Apache community functions are eager to learn again of the "forgotten covenant" of the Lamanites.





For the time being, all other charitable donations toward his work are being redirected to Iglesia de Aztlan Native American Chicano-Indio Cultural Arts Center, which is the 501 c 3 under which the Membreno Apache of Southern Colorado are chartered.



Donations are being pooled to support the mountainous vision of the community of the Membreno Apache and Chicano-Indio who are being drawn spiritually back to Aztlan (the Homeland). See MbY's note below:



Checks or money orders can be made to:


Iglesia de Aztlan

P.O. Box 1141

Walsenburg, CO 81089-1141



To discuss some of the community's greater needs, you may contact:



James 'Tenrivers' Atencio

719 / 738-5724 or 719 989-0795





"As a son or daughter of European- assimilated Ephraim, you can make no greater contribution to show your love and support and encouragement for your brother, M'nashe. Here at the Eastern Gate of the sacred region today called "Four Corners," a band of about 60 families of Membreno Apache mixed with Indio-Chicano have been told to "prepare a place for elders when they arrive at the Eastern Gate."





It has started small with a sweat lodge, which Tenrivers was told "build it and story-tellers and elders will come." So in 1992, Iglesia de Aztlan (the assembling of the Homeland), was chartered as a Native American "church." Shortly after the lodge began meeting each Sunday in 2001, Tenrivers met his first "story-teller." Yours truly.





Their ancestors never surrendered and consequently never received reservation lands -- and the accompanying metote of "slavery." THESE are the guys who want to know Torah."

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