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#1 User is offline   Stephen 

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Posted 07 May 2008 - 05:01 PM

Israel celebrates 60 years of statehood

Itzik: State of Israel is an unusual success story

By News Agencies

Tags: Israel, Independence Day

Amid tight security, Israel Wednesday night kicked off 24 hours of celebrations marking the 60th anniversary of its foundation in May 1948.

Overseen by Knesset Speaker Dalia Itzik, officers raised the Israeli flag from half to full mast, opening a one-hour ceremony at Jerusalem's Mount Herzl, which was to be followed by fireworks and outdoor celebrations throughout the country.

Itzik addressed the crowd at Mount Herzl, saying "the state of Israel is an unusual success story, a wonder by any historical standard."

At the start of her speech, Itzik expressed her sympathy for the bereaved families of Israel's fallen soldiers, saying "at this time only a few people are left to hug the gravestones at the military cemeteries. Millions of citizens owe them their endless gratitude. We will never be able to repay our debt to them."

"We had no miracles," she went on to say, "We built this splendid achievement with our own hands. There is no other country in the world like the state of Israel."

Itzik also addressed the negative aspects of Israeli society, saying "we are aware of grave phenomenon of violence in our society. It is not our wars with our enemies that will break us, but rather we, with our own hands, are capable of dragging ourselves down to places in which we don't want to be."

The Knesset speaker also addressed the world's Arab leaders, saying "we seek peace and we desire peace for your children as well, but beware - our children know very well the art of war if it is required."

Twelve adults, accompanied by 12 children representing the future generation of Israel, then lit twelve torches to honor Israel's anniversary.

The fireworks were to light up the skies from Eilat in the south, to Nahariya in the north. Throughout the evening and night, hundreds of thousands are expected to attend performances by local artists and musicians on outdoor stages erected on central squares across Israel.

Laser and light shows will also be held in a number of major cities.

On Wednesday during the day, the Israel Air Force was to perform off the shores of Tel Aviv and elsewhere, while dozens of naval vessels were to sail from the port city of Haifa in the north to that of Ashdod in the south.

Israelis are also expected to flock to nature reserves and museums, which are open to the public gratis in celebration of the occasion.

Thousands of police, including special units, were to secure the events. Roadblocks were to be set up at city entrances and beefed up forces have begun patrolling the border with the West Bank and Gaza, police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld said.

The police have raised their alert to the second-highest level, amid warnings that Arab militants might try to mar the festivities with a major attack.

Israel declared statehood on May 14, 1948, a day before the expiry of Britain's United Nations-mandate over historic Palestine. It traditionally celebrates Independence Day according to the Jewish calendar, which this year falls almost a week before May 14.

Israel's 60th Independence Day began with a great sense of pride but also uncertainty about its future and doubts about prospects for peace with the Palestinians. Six decades after rising from the ashes of the Holocaust, the Jewish state is still plagued by existential threats from abroad and an identity crisis at home.

Israel at 60 is a paradox of exuberance and despair - a country enduring near daily rocket attacks from Gaza militants while producing scientists who have pioneered Wi-Fi and instant messaging.

Independence Day began just as Memorial Day for fallen soldiers ended - a jarring contrast between solemnity and joy that underlines the link Israelis see between their military and the existence of their state.

NASA astronaut Garrett Reisman, the first Jewish crew member on the International Space Station, on Wednesday sent a greeting from space to the people of Israel.

Every time the Station flies over the State of Israel, I try to find a window, and it never fails to move me when I see the familiar outline of Israel coming toward us from over the horizon, he said.

Later Wednesday, Jewish communities around the world were joining Israelis in a rendition of the Israeli national anthem - Hatikva, or The Hope. Their goal: to enter the Guinness Book of World Records for the most people singing a national anthem at the same time.

U.S. President George W. Bush will attend a conference in Jerusalem next week marking the anniversary, along with Tony Blair, Henry Kissinger, Mikhail Gorbachev, Rupert Murdoch and a co-founder of Google.

Peres, Israel's 84-year-old president, is hosting the conference, along with a party for 60-year-old Israelis born on the day Israel declared its independence, re-establishing Jewish sovereignty in the Holy Land for the first time in nearly 2,000 years.

"We are small in size, small in numbers, so we cannot become a big market or a big industry," Peres recently told The Associated Press. "But Israel can become a daring laboratory."

In Israel's early days, Peres worked for the country's founding father, David Ben Gurion. Peres went on to become prime minister three times, in addition to winning the Nobel Peace Prize. Now he spends time promoting Israel as a green country and a high-tech powerhouse - including a government plan to install the world's first electric car network here by 2011, with recharging stations all over the country.

Israeli venture capitalists in Jerusalem are setting up an online multimedia encyclopedia generated by users, and a product called Pop Tok that sends video clips from movies and TV shows as instant messages.

Yet Israel is also home to Sderot, a little town near the border with Hamas-ruled Gaza where people huddle in bomb shelters almost every day to escape militants' rockets. Israelis strive to live normal lives, but they live in an abnormal neighborhood, threatened by Iranian-backed militants on both their northern and southern flanks.

They see Iran as their greatest existential threat, with its nuclear program they fear will soon be used to make weapons and its president's public calls for their destruction.

Yet Israel's conflict with the Palestinians is the biggest obstacle to its quest for normalcy. The fighting has only intensified since the Jewish state's creation resulted in the displacement of hundreds of thousands of Arabs, and has become a rallying point for Muslim extremists throughout the world.

Palestinians refer to Israel's creation as 'al-Naqba', or the catastrophe.

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Posted 07 May 2008 - 05:37 PM

Some meanings concerning the 60 :

Samekh means "to trust," "depend upon," and "support." It symbolizes Divine Support and Protection and is associated with the process of Memory. This important letter of the Aleph-Bet also depicts Abundance and Completeness.


http://www.biblegate...rch=PSALM%20119


s Samekh

113 I hate double-minded men,
but I love your law.

114 You are my refuge and my shield;
I have put my hope in your word.

115 Away from me, you evildoers,
that I may keep the commands of my God!

116 Sustain me according to your promise, and I will live;
do not let my hopes be dashed.

117 Uphold me, and I will be delivered;
I will always have regard for your decrees.

118 You reject all who stray from your decrees,
for their deceitfulness is in vain.

119 All the wicked of the earth you discard like dross;
therefore I love your statutes.

120 My flesh trembles in fear of you;
I stand in awe of your laws.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samekh

Significance
Samekh in gematria has the value 60.

Samekh and Mem form the abbreviation for the Angel of Death, whose name in Hebrew is Samael. It also stands for centimetre.



http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Centimetre

A centimetre is approximately the width of the fingernail of an adult person.

A carpenters' ruler has centimetre divisions.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samekh
In some legends, samekh is said to have been a miracle of the Ten Commandments. Exodus 32:15 records that the tablets "were written on both their sides." The Jerusalem Talmud interprets this as meaning that the inscription went through the full thickness of the tablets. The stone in the center parts of the letters ayin and teth should have fallen out, as it was not connected to the rest of the tablet, but it miraculously remained in place. The Babylonian Talmud (tractate Shabbat 104a), on the other hand, attributes this instead to samekh, but samekh did not have such a hollow form in the sacred Paleo-Hebrew alphabet that would presumably have been used for the tablets.

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Posted 08 May 2008 - 12:10 AM

View PostStephen, on May 7 2008, 02:01 PM, said:

Israel celebrates 60 years of statehood
Itzik: State of Israel is an unusual success story
...."We had no miracles," she went on to say, "We built this splendid achievement with our own hands. There is no other country in the world like the state of Israel."

I presume that this article was posted on the prophecy forum as a confirmation of the fulfillment of Israel's prophecies and promises that God would gather her into the promised land.
First I want to affirm Israel for her 60 year milestone against all odds.
As for a fulfillment of prophecy, I am afraid that cannot be.
God told Israel:
Deut 28:1 If you fully obey the Lord your God and carefully follow all his commands I give you today, the Lord your God will set you high above all the nations on earth. 2 All these blessings will come upon you
15 However, if you do not obey the Lord your God and do not carefully follow all his commands and decrees I am giving you today, all these curses will come upon you and overtake you:
64 Then the Lord will scatter you among all nations, from one end of the earth to the other.


We know the sad story. Israel rejected God's prophets and crucified His Son and in 70AD Jerusalem was destroyed and Israel was scattered among the nations. However that is not all God had to say:

Deut 30: 2 and when you and your children return to the Lord your God and obey him with all your heart and with all your soul according to everything I command you today, 3 then the Lord your God will restore your fortunesa and have compassion on you and gather you again from all the nations where he scattered you.
The condition God sets before Israel in order for Him to gather them back into the lans is that she turn to Him and obey Him.
Israel has not turned to him nor obeyed God. So how can God gather them into the land?

Even the Knesset Speaker Dalia Itzik said:
"We had no miracles. "We built this splendid achievement with our own hands. There is no other country in the world like the state of Israel."
They do not even claim that God was at work. How could God go against His word and gather her back into the land before she turned to Him?
Her comments sound more like King Nebuchadnezzer of Babylon:
Dan 4:30 he said, “Is not this the great Babylon I have built as the royal residence, by my mighty power and for the glory of my majesty?”

I know that some will scream that I am anti-Semitic.
That is not true. I love the Jewish people. I labor for them when I can. I have preached in their land.
I just want them to know Jesus.
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Posted 08 May 2008 - 07:41 AM

3am,


None of those verses preclude God gathering His people prior to their turning to God. Besides which, there has been a great turning to God among many Jews in the past 50 years - many of them are turning to Jesus, coming to faith in Jesus (ever heard of "Messianic Judaism"?). Also, I imagine the results of the Holocaust caused many, many Jews to turn to God for solace, comfort, and strength.

There is no basis to claim that Israel today is not the fulfillment (or partial fulfillment) of God's prophecies and promises to Israel. In fact, it is fairly clear that the modern nation of Israel is the very specific fulfillment of God's prophecies and promises. Some of God's warnings to Israel included that if they sinned, He would punish them, but if, after He had punished them, they still had not repented, He would punish them 7 times more for their unpunished sin which remained. In Ezekiel 4, God declares that there would be a total of 430 years of punishment upon the people of Israel (390 years for the House of Israel, and 40 years for the House of Judah). This punishment was to be their scattering to the nations, in particular being taken captive by Babylon (at least initially). In Daniel and Jeremiah, we can read that Israel endured 70 years of captivity in Babylon, and then God allowed Israel to return to their land. But a very small number (only about 42,000) obeyed God and returned - the rest remained in unbelief and worldly sin, choosing to remain in Babylon. So, 360 years of punishment remained, and the majority of the people of Israel, the nation of Israel "as a whole", had not repented. Therefore, according to God's Own Word, He would punish them "7 times more" for their sin which remained, or 360 years x 7 = 2520 additional years of being scattered, of no longer being a nation in their own land. The total number of years this was to last was 70 + 2520 = 2590 years. These years are "Biblical" years, of 360 days each.

Now, 2590 "Biblical" years is roughly equal to 2552.83 "Tropical" years (of roughly 365.24219 days each). Historically, it is agreed that the nation of Israel was first taken into captivity to Babylon in the Fall of 606 or 605 B.C.; also it is agreed that Jerusalem was conquered and destroyed by Babylon in the Fall of 587 or 586 B.C. - it is acknowledged that the difference between the two events was 19 years, plus or minus a few weeks or days. If one goes back 2552.83 "Tropical" years from when Israel became a nation once again (May 14, 1948 A.D.), one "arrives" at a date in the early Fall of 606 B.C.. If one goes back 2552.83 "Tropical" years from when Israel regained control of the Temple Mount (June 8, 1967 A.D.), one "arrives" at a date in the Fall of 587 B.C..

Obviously purely coincidental, right? God is sitting on His throne in Heaven going, "Well, will you look at that That's weird. What are the odds?"

Revelation 22:21
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Posted 08 May 2008 - 12:56 PM

Thanks Stephen for the article. I apoligize if I was rough in the past with you.
Please accept my apoligies.

In ten years from now it will be 70 years a year of great release.

I sense the birth pangs will be over by then.
Natural Israel is also a timeclock for all of us...

In 9 years it will be 50 years since the recapturing of Jerusalem..
50 years is a Jubilee cycle, many things will happen.

Jesus will be revealed more and more and should be known to many by then.
Just my insights.
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Posted 08 May 2008 - 08:48 PM

View PostGods word, on May 8 2008, 04:41 AM, said:

3am,None of those verses preclude God gathering His people prior to their turning to God.

Exodus 19:5 Now if you obey me fully and keep my covenant, then out of all nations you will be my treasured possession. Although the whole earth is mine, 6 you will be for me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.’ These are the words you are to speak to the Israelites.”
This is Israel's basic covenant with God. It is based on her obedience to God.
God never changed this covenant with Israel, until the "New Covenant" when Christ died on the cross.
God explains his covenant and explains how it is tied to the land just as Israel is ready to cross the Jordan and possess it:
Deut 28:1 If you fully obey the Lord your God and carefully follow all his commands I give you today, the Lord your God will set you high above all the nations on earth. 2 All these blessings will come upon you..... 8 The Lord your God will bless you in the land he is giving you.
Israel's blessing in the land depended on her obedience to God, according to the original covenant!

15 However, if you do not obey the Lord your God and do not carefully follow all his commands and decrees I am giving you today, all these curses will come upon you and overtake you:
64 Then the Lord will scatter you among all nations, from one end of the earth to the other.


After they are scattered, then:
Deu 30:2 when you and your children return to the Lord your God and obey him with all your heart and with all your soul according to everything I command you today, 3 then the Lord your God will restore your fortunes and have compassion on you and gather you again from all the nations where he scattered you.
The conditions remain. Israel must turn to God before he will gather them into the land.
Are you saying that God has changed his mind and has changed his covenant? Where is any evidence in Scripture that God changed His covenant. The simple fact that they are in the land, does not prove that God gathered them. The test has to be what the Bible says, not what you see happening around you.

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Besides which, there has been a great turning to God among many Jews in the past 50 years - many of them are turning to Jesus, coming to faith in Jesus (ever heard of "Messianic Judaism"?). Also, I imagine the results of the Holocaust caused many, many Jews to turn to God for solace, comfort, and strength.

This is all true, but it does not mean that God changed his covenant. His covenant is His word, not to be taken lightly.

Furthermore, when a Jew accepts Christ, and yes I have heard of Messianic Judaism, He becomes a part of the church. He becomes a part of the same remnant Paul was a part of and we are a part of today. They are grafted into the Olive tree along with us Gentiles (Rom 11).

Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Now the covenant has changed, because:
Heb 8:6the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, and it is founded on better promises. 7 For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another. 8 But God found fault with the people and said “The time is coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah....
13 By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.

The new covenant is made with the house of Israel, which is now the church!

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There is no basis to claim that Israel today is not the fulfillment (or partial fulfillment) of God's prophecies and promises to Israel. In fact, it is fairly clear that the modern nation of Israel is the very specific fulfillment of God's prophecies and promises.

How can it be? There is no difference between Jew nor Greek!
How can God fulfill his conditional promises to a non believing Israel, when he has clearly said that there is no difference any more. The dividing wall between Jew and Gentile has been broken down forever, by the blood of Christ (Eph 2)?
Everything depends on the covenants and the covenants are all about Jesus.

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Some of God's warnings to Israel included that if they sinned, He would punish them, but if, after He had punished them, they still had not repented, He would punish them 7 times more for their unpunished sin which remained. In Ezekiel 4, God declares that there would be a total of 430 years of punishment upon the people of Israel (390 years for the House of Israel, and 40 years for the House of Judah). This punishment was to be their scattering to the nations, in particular being taken captive by Babylon (at least initially). In Daniel and Jeremiah, we can read that Israel endured 70 years of captivity in Babylon, and then God allowed Israel to return to their land. But a very small number (only about 42,000) obeyed God and returned - the rest remained in unbelief and worldly sin, choosing to remain in Babylon. So, 360 years of punishment remained, and the majority of the people of Israel, the nation of Israel "as a whole", had not repented. Therefore, according to God's Own Word, He would punish them "7 times more" for their sin which remained, or 360 years x 7 = 2520 additional years of being scattered, of no longer being a nation in their own land. The total number of years this was to last was 70 + 2520 = 2590 years. These years are "Biblical" years, of 360 days each.

Now, 2590 "Biblical" years is roughly equal to 2552.83 "Tropical" years (of roughly 365.24219 days each). Historically, it is agreed that the nation of Israel was first taken into captivity to Babylon in the Fall of 606 or 605 B.C.; also it is agreed that Jerusalem was conquered and destroyed by Babylon in the Fall of 587 or 586 B.C. - it is acknowledged that the difference between the two events was 19 years, plus or minus a few weeks or days. If one goes back 2552.83 "Tropical" years from when Israel became a nation once again (May 14, 1948 A.D.), one "arrives" at a date in the early Fall of 606 B.C.. If one goes back 2552.83 "Tropical" years from when Israel regained control of the Temple Mount (June 8, 1967 A.D.), one "arrives" at a date in the Fall of 587 B.C..

Obviously purely coincidental, right? God is sitting on His throne in Heaven going, "Well, will you look at that That's weird. What are the odds?"[/size][/font]

A lot of assumptions there for all the math.
Seven times is most likely 7 years.
There is no evidence for the use of a 365 day year in the Bible. A biblical year is 360 days.
And even if it did all add up like you say, God is sitting on His throne in heaven saying, My covenant, I said, "If you obey, then, I will gather you," so please accept my Son as your Savior and I will gather you to Him!!!
IT is all about Jesus.
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