[youngRachel]

I saw a program on the History Channel about Bible codes and it freaked me out. I did a google search for it and I've been looking around this site for a few days along with the bible-codes.com one.

Maybe I'm a big contradiction, but I completely believe in this. All of your numbers and the predictions that people work hard at finding and typing out.
I'm also an athiest. I've been one for about 4 years now.(I'm 19) I bet my grandmother would smack me upside the head if she was alive. All my grandparents were extremely god-fearing and religious. Crosses all around the house, little Jesus pictures and figurines, bible sitting up on the mantle, praying before eating dinner.
I was baptized along with my brother, but only to please my grandparents. Neither one of my parents had/have much faith. I don't go to church but I've been a handful of times with other family. I wasn't allowed at the body and blood of Christ cause I never had my first communion and confirmation. And I won't. Very awkward for me to be in the house of god.

I'm a good girl though. I have a spotless permenant record at school. No detentions or referrals. I don't smoke or do drugs.(I've been known to drink a bit socially) Still a virgin and I don't plan on sex until marriage for security and money reasons. Not like I'm saving my body for god and my future husband.

A lot of 'bad' things I see on here I disagree with. I'm pro-choice, birth-control is a good thing and so is the morning after pill. I'm all for gay marriages and being in love with who you're in love with. I'm not gay. But my childhood best friend is:
Terrible story. Very religious picture perfect family, she began cutting herself. They took her to a therapist and found out she was a lesbian. She was cutting because of the frustration and fear of her church not accepting her for being gay.
Things like that turn me away from religion, it seems to be divisive when it should be uniting.
It's a good thing and I respect the sincerity of it but there's been a lot of wars and people killed over religion and the ways it's interpreted.

Will I go to hell for not believing?

Do I contradict myself when I say I believe in fate? Cause I really do. And I believe things just work out the way they're supposed to and we'll all find our perfect mate eventually.

-Just an introduction. I love coming here whenever big world events happen to see if it was predicted. I also like Nostradamus.
-Rachel (Hebrew for innocent lamb)

[kim48]

YOUNGRACHEL
Will I go to hell for not believing?
I'm also an athiest.

RACHEL YOU ARE HERE FOR A REASON. I FELL THAT IF YOU THINK YOU MAY GO TO HELL FOR NOT BELIEVING. YOU MAY NOT BE AN ATHIEST.

I WAS RELIGIOUS FOR ALOT OF YRS. NOW I AM A CHRISTAIN AND SO PROUD NOW.
STUDY THE BIBLE. STUDY FOR HISTORY AND YOU WILL FIND THINGS THAT WAS WRITTEN 1000 YRS AGO IS NOW COMING INTO PLACE RT. NOW. HOW CAN THAT BE?
WHEN GOD HITS YOU WITH THE TRUTH YOU WILL WANT MORE AND MORE. YOU DONT HAVE TO BE IN CHURCH TO BE SAVE.
I WAS REGLIOUS BUT I DIDNT GET SAVE TILL I WAS SITTING AND WATCHING A MOVIE.
I KNOW IT IS REAL BECAUSE I FEEL IT AND THE JOY IS THE ONLY REAL THING I HAVE EVER FELT WAY DEEP DOWN INSIDE.
ASK GOD TO SHOW YOU. HE WILL I KNOW BECAUSE HE DID ME.
YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOOSE AND EVERYTHING TO GAIN.
JUST READ THE HISTORY IN THE BIBLE. YOU SEE, YOU GOT TO THE FORUM FOR A REASON AND YOU COULD HAVE GONE SOMEWHERE ELSE BUT YOU DIDNT. YOU ASK SOME GOOD QUESTIONS ABOUT LIFE AND NOT OUT OF BEING MEAN SO YOU REALLY WANT ANSWERS.

YES YOU WILL GO TO HELL IF YOU ARE NOT SAVED.
FRANKLY I DONT WANT TO GO THERE.

WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO LOOSE. NOTHING BUT ALITTLE TIME AND WE ALL HAVE ALITTLE TIME. YOU ALSO HAVE A LOT TO GAIN, LIFE. AND LIFE THAT YOU CANT NOT EXPAIN TILL YOU EXPERENCE HIS LOVE.
SAY A PRAYER AND ASK GOD TO SHOW YOU SOMETHING IN HIS WORD AND WATCH WHAT HAPPENS TO YOU.
KIM

[Marta]

youngRachel, on Sep 14 2005, 07:09 PM, said:

I saw a program on the History Channel about Bible codes and it freaked me out. I did a google search for it and I've been looking around this site for a few days along with the bible-codes.com one.

Maybe I'm a big contradiction, but I completely believe in this. All of your numbers and the predictions that people work hard at finding and typing out.
I'm also an athiest. I've been one for about 4 years now.(I'm 19) I bet my grandmother would smack me upside the head if she was alive. All my grandparents were extremely god-fearing and religious. Crosses all around the house, little Jesus pictures and figurines, bible sitting up on the mantle, praying before eating dinner.
I was baptized along with my brother, but only to please my grandparents. Neither one of my parents had/have much faith. I don't go to church but I've been a handful of times with other family. I wasn't allowed at the body and blood of Christ cause I never had my first communion and confirmation. And I won't. Very awkward for me to be in the house of god.

I'm a good girl though. I have a spotless permenant record at school. No detentions or referrals. I don't smoke or do drugs.(I've been known to drink a bit socially) Still a virgin and I don't plan on sex until marriage for security and money reasons. Not like I'm saving my body for god and my future husband.

A lot of 'bad' things I see on here I disagree with. I'm pro-choice, birth-control is a good thing and so is the morning after pill. I'm all for gay marriages and being in love with who you're in love with. I'm not gay. But my childhood best friend is:
Terrible story. Very religious picture perfect family, she began cutting herself. They took her to a therapist and found out she was a lesbian. She was cutting because of the frustration and fear of her church not accepting her for being gay.
Things like that turn me away from religion, it seems to be divisive when it should be uniting.
It's a good thing and I respect the sincerity of it but there's been a lot of wars and people killed over religion and the ways it's interpreted.

Will I go to hell for not believing?

Do I contradict myself when I say I believe in fate? Cause I really do. And I believe things just work out the way they're supposed to and we'll all find our perfect mate eventually.

-Just an introduction. I love coming here whenever big world events happen to see if it was predicted. I also like Nostradamus.
-Rachel (Hebrew for innocent lamb)

Is that Shakira? Just wondering...at first I thought it was Sarah Jessica Parker, then I looked a little closer. Anyways, that's beside the point.

Here is my real point. I will send you my personal testimony through a private message.

Found something cool for ya! (I used to think the Bible was pretty boring, but you know what? It is sooooo the opposite and there is a lot to learn there!)

Here are your instructions for life and most importantly your salvation:



http://www.everystud...es/bible.html#1

Why don't you study up on this stuff and get back with us. I haven't gone through the entire site, but I'll study it too. You have some valid questions and deserve some valid answers so, hope it helps.

One more thing before you go.....please check out this website:

http://www.wayofthemaster.com

God bless you Shakira or uh....Rachel...nothin but love for you. You see the time is at hand and you have the Lamb's ear. My prayer is with you and that you will soon find the Holy Spirit residing in you, for He will be your best friend among many other things.

Seek your Heavenly Father - your Creator. You have a soul right?
Aren't you curious of who created it?

He loves you Rachel.

[Tomcat]

Hi Rachael,
Welcome to the forum.
Every one of us has one thing in common. Just like you there was a time in our lives that we didn't know Jesus either. I was raised going to church and had
a bunch of religion around me but I didn't meet Jesus until I was 25.
When I was confronted with the gospel it got me thinking. Is God real ? Is the
devil real? Is there really a heaven and a hell? I could see that there was a whole
bunch of different churchs that got all of their info from the same book (the Bible)
but they were all saying different things. I wondered..What is the truth? I was
always a thinker and liked to contemplate many different issues. My favorite
Rock Band at the time had alot of spiritual/dreamy/space/peace and logical
living lyrics in their songs. One was called "Thinking, the Best way to travel."
Anyways, I then realized that what was at hand was forever and ever. ETERNITY!
Man...That's a looooooooong time. I realized that if Heaven and Hell were real
and that if Hell was a Lake of Fire..I didn't want to go there. My younger brother
was the lowest creep on earth. He was the thorn in everyone's side. The black
sheep. The evil little jerk that was always causing trouble. Well, it just so happens
that he had a 'Born Again" experience and he was the one that first shared with
me that he knew Jesus personally and that unless I gave my life to him that I would go to hell. It was hard having that little creep talk to me about God but I
thought to myself. If God is real and the devil is real then what has taken place
in his life must have come from God because the devil wouldn't take "Buzz" and
make him good. So I listened. He told me that Jesus said, Unless you are 'born
again' you cannot enter into the kingdom of God. So I got to thinking. If there
really is a God then he would know everything and if a person really wanted to know Him and put 100% of his energy into meeting God, then God would have
to come to that person. Being the pot smoking, Rum drinking, Rock and Roll
drummer that I was and digging the life I was living I wasn't real interested in
seeking God. Then I had this weird experience. I was sitting on my couch at
home. I was stoned as usual just kind of vegging out watching TV. Well, I went
into one of those trance type of deals where your body is one place but your mind
is somewhere else. In this trance state I imagined that I had died and was going
to be judged. I was all alone floating toward this huge throne. All I could see was
this big pair of legs from the feet to the top of the knees. As I approached all of
a sudden this huge hand and arm flipped down over the knees and it was pointing
downward. WHAM!!!! Just like that I was condemned to Hell fire forever
and ever. I cannot describe the horror that raced through my body. That was it!!
No second chance.. No explainations..At the pointing of the finger downward I
immediately started floating backwards.. I came out of that trance completely
shaken if you can imagine. You know how dreams can seem so real... Well, this
was as real as you can get. I knew then that NOTHING on this earth or in this life
is worth going to hell for. Anyway, it just so happened that my changed little
brother came over that night. After more talk about how he knew Jesus and that I could know him too he asked me if I wanted to pray and ask Jesus to come into
my heart. I didn't want to but the thought raced through my mind that if I didn't
and I died I would go to hell. So, as odd as it was for me to hold his hands and
pray I asked Jesus to forgive me of all of my sins and to come into my heart. I
was serious and meant it and to my surprise I really felt different. Buzz had told
me that Jesus was as physical as this table as he put his hand on my coffee table
and that's the way I have to know him. I knew I felt different and good but I still
didn't know him(Jesus) in that physical way. Well, everytime I thought of the name Jesus for the next three days I would pray(in my head) and tell him that
that is the way I want to know him. On the third day I was having a bummer day at work and I thought, "What a bummer day." then I thought, "I shouldn't be
having a bad day I gave my life to Jesus" WHAM!!!! The split second that I
thought of the name JESUS in my head..He filled me with his Holy Spirit. My hands
came out of my pockets and I started running around. I didn't know what to do
so I went over to a mechanic in the shop that swore at me 2 days earlier when I
mentioned Jesus and I said, "Hey Rich, I KNOW JESUS!!!"

Rachael, Jesus said, If you seek you will find, If you ask you will receive, if you
knock the door will be opened to you. He said, To those that come unto me I will
in no wise cast out. He said, You must be Born Again.

It's not an organization of man. It is you and the Creator. I guarantee to you
that if you seek him with all of your strength that HE WILL COME TO YOU. Then
all of a sudden you will get this huge desire to read the Bible. When you read his
word he will teach you.

The simple truth is this. We are all sinners. Our sin separates us from God. Jesus
came, lived a perfect life, took our sins upon himself, died, went to hell for us, was
raised from the dead by His Father, ascended into heaven and is the only one
that can forgive you of your sins whereby you can have everlasting life and escape
the judgment of hellfire. It doesn't sound so simple does it. Well, when you ask
sincerely for him to come to you, he will. Then just do what ever he tells you.

Hope to see you post again and keep us updated. Whenever the name Jesus comes into your thought's say a prayer and ask him to reveal himself to you.
He will in a special way and then you'll tell someone your story.

Peace, Tom