charlie, on Feb 13 2008, 06:07 AM, said:
The beast is a kingdom. Obama could only be the horn or the false prophet. But then he is not speaking in God's name is he?
23 "Thus he said: 'The fourth beast shall be A fourth kingdom on earth, Which shall be different from all other kingdoms, And shall devour the whole earth, Trample it and break it in pieces.
24 The ten horns are ten kings Who shall arise from this kingdom. And another shall rise after them; He shall be different from the first ones, And shall subdue three kings.
25 He shall speak pompous words against the Most High, Shall persecute the saints of the Most High, And shall intend to change times and law. Then the saints shall be given into his hand For a time and times and half a time.
26 'But the court shall be seated, And they shall take away his dominion, To consume and destroy it forever.
27 Then the kingdom and dominion, And the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven, Shall be given to the people, the saints of the Most High. His kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, And all dominions shall serve and obey Him.'
Well, let's not mince words here, but it is very clear in Revelation 13 that the 1st Beast from the sea, referring to he, him, his and who, is obviously speaking of a "personhood", not an it or that as would be the pronouns used to describe a kingdom or nation. And, I do understand that this is how theologians have traditionally interpreted this imagery. But, even In Rev. 13: 11-18 the 2nd Beast is referring to the 1st Beast as an "individual". We read quite clearly in verse 18 "calculate the number of the BEAST, for it is the number of a MAN: HIS number is 666." Now, the last time I checked the dictionary I could have sworn the definition of a MAN was NOT a KINGDOM.
So obviously we are talking about two different things that are both described as a “beast”. The BEAST in Daniel is in reference to a powerful KINGDOM; and the two BEASTS in Revelation are in reference to two powerful PERSONS. The 1st Beast is obviously a Great King with undaunted global authority, and appears to be an assemblage of Barack Hussein Obama’s collective multicultural heritage and his distinct attributes: he “is like a leopard”, symbolizing his swift and ferocious vengefulness (to come); “his feet were like the feet of a bear” symbolizing his methodical and calculative conduct to move in evil, ingenious craft and cruelty towards men (to come); and “his mouth like the mouth of a lion” which speaks with great command, oratory and the authority of his bold kingship (to come), and symbolizing the ethnic heritage of his father’s Kenya, Africa, embodied in Kenya’s national animal, the lion, as depicted on the Kenya National Coat of Arms: http://en.wikipedia....f_arms_of_Kenya
And, the head, horns and crowns are his loyal allies, or his collaborative “Axis of Evil” (to come), which he will have total authority over.
This post has been edited by THE SEVEN THUNDERS: 13 February 2008 - 07:45 AM