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Judaism And Zionism Are Not The Same Thing
We would like to take a few minutes of your time to prevent you from making a terrible mistake that may have disastrous results for many.
You have always without a doubt heard and read much about the political crises in the Middle East in which the State of Israel plays a central role. This is, in fact, an ongoing series of crises with potential to bring the greatest misfortune on the entire world. Tragically many believe that Zionism and Judaism are identical. Thus they conclude that the entire Jewish people is responsible for the actions of the Zionist government and the world crises which emanates from it. This is a Grave Error!
The truth is that the Jewish faith and Zionism are two very different philosophies. They are as opposite as day and night. The Jewish people have existed for thousands of years. In their two thousand years of Divinely decreed exile no Jew ever sought to end this exile and establish independent political sovereignty anywhere. The people's sole purpose was the study and fulfillment of the Divine commandments of the Torah.
The Zionist movement created the Israeli state. The latter is a persuasion less than one hundred years old. Its essential goal was and is to change the nature of the Jewish people from that of a religious entity to a political movement. From Zionism's inception the spiritual leaders of the Jewish people stood in staunch opposition to it.
To this day Torah Jewry remains forever loyal to its faith. Zionists want the world to believe that they are the representatives of the entire Jewish people. This is false! The Jewish people never chose them as their leaders.
The Zionists have deceived many well meaning Jewish people via terror, trickery and false propaganda. They have at their disposal the use of a nearly universally subservient media. Whoever attempts to criticize them puts his livelihood and, at times, his very life in danger.
However, despite the media blackout and easy resort to terror the simple truth remains unrefuted and irrefutable: ACCORDING TO THE JEWISH FAITH AND TORAH LAW THE JEWISH PEOPLE ARE FORBIDDEN TO HAVE THEIR OWN STATE WHILE AWAITING THE MESSIANIC ERA!
The Creator gave us the Holy Land thousands of years ago. Yet, when we sinned, He took it away and sent us into exile. Since that time our task is to wait for Him to send the Messiah. At that time, the Creator alone, without any human being lifting a hand or saying a word, will bring us together and take us out of exile. He will likewise establish universal peace among all mankind and all will serve Him in good will.
Some religious Jews, confused by Zionist propaganda quote Biblical verses that state that G-d gave the children of Israel the Holy Land. They overlook, unfortunately, those verses which say that He took it away due to our sins. They further ignore those prophecies which explicitly describe the last exile's conclusion as a Divine, not a human process.
The Creator has commanded every Jew to follow the ways of peace and to be loyal to the country where he lives.
Torah true Jewry waits patiently for the Messianic redemption. They have nothing to do with any kind of pseudo "Jewish State" and its aggressions against other peoples. They have a deep sympathy for the plight of the Palestinians who have suffered the most from Zionism's false teachings and barbaric actions. The Zionist state is not a Jewish state. The Zionists alone are the only ones responsible for their actions. Authentic Jewry has and will continue to oppose the very existence of this blasphemous state.
May all mankind witness the true redemption.
http://www.nkusa.org...not_zionism.cfm
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Anti-Zionist Orthodox Rabbis present Plaque to new Palestinian President Mahamoud Abbas
washington, dc
May 27, 2005
On May 27, 2005 a delegation of anti-Zionist Orthodox Rabbis met with new Palestinian President, Mahamoud Abbas at the Ritz Carlton Hotel in Washington , DC to present him with a plaque engraved with a biblical blessing from the Jewish community wishing that he should be successful in his Presidency. The position of the anti-Zionist Orthodox Jewish community in regard to Palestine seemed well accepted by the new president and the delegation expressed great hopes for future peaceful coexistence and the ultimate peaceful dismantling of the state of “ Israel ” and that ruler ship over the entire Holy Land will be restored to the Palestinian people.
picture here:
http://www.nkusa.org...2005May27DC.cfm
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ZIONIST VIOLENCE & INTIMIDATION
These photos demonstrate the lengths to which the Zionist regime will go to persecute Jews opposed to Zionism. These reflect only a number of the many instances in which loyal anti-Zionist Jews are subject to relentless oppression if they speak up against the actions of the Zionist State. Recently a number of anti-Zionist Orthodox Jews have been sent to jail for refusal to submit to Zionist intimidation and coercion. These photos also give a sense of why many Jews who oppose Zionism are subject to intimidation to the extent that many are reluctant to demonstrate their opposition to Zionism publicly.
photos here: http://www.nkusa.org...lence/index.cfm
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Anti-Zionist Orthodox Jews brutally attacked in synagogue, jerusalem, Holy Land after demonstrating against zionist violence
April 26, 2005
On April 26, 2005, thousands of Anti-Zionist Orthodox Jews in Jerusalem gathered to protest the despicable events which occurred during a protest at Highway 6 near Kibbutz Regavin when demonstrators against the Highway expansion which was destroying ancient Jewish graves were viciously attacked by Security Guards.
In retaliation for the mass protest, Israeli police entered an Orthodox Jewish Synagogue in Jerusalem and attacked devout Jews who were in the shul to pray during the Passover Holiday.
photo and video clip here: http://www.nkusa.org...05Jerusalem.cfm
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PRAY FOR TRUE ISRAEL!!!!!!!!!!!
We would like to take a few minutes of your time to prevent you from making a terrible mistake that may have disastrous results for many.
You have always without a doubt heard and read much about the political crises in the Middle East in which the State of Israel plays a central role. This is, in fact, an ongoing series of crises with potential to bring the greatest misfortune on the entire world. Tragically many believe that Zionism and Judaism are identical. Thus they conclude that the entire Jewish people is responsible for the actions of the Zionist government and the world crises which emanates from it. This is a Grave Error!
The truth is that the Jewish faith and Zionism are two very different philosophies. They are as opposite as day and night. The Jewish people have existed for thousands of years. In their two thousand years of Divinely decreed exile no Jew ever sought to end this exile and establish independent political sovereignty anywhere. The people's sole purpose was the study and fulfillment of the Divine commandments of the Torah.
The Zionist movement created the Israeli state. The latter is a persuasion less than one hundred years old. Its essential goal was and is to change the nature of the Jewish people from that of a religious entity to a political movement. From Zionism's inception the spiritual leaders of the Jewish people stood in staunch opposition to it.
To this day Torah Jewry remains forever loyal to its faith. Zionists want the world to believe that they are the representatives of the entire Jewish people. This is false! The Jewish people never chose them as their leaders.
The Zionists have deceived many well meaning Jewish people via terror, trickery and false propaganda. They have at their disposal the use of a nearly universally subservient media. Whoever attempts to criticize them puts his livelihood and, at times, his very life in danger.
However, despite the media blackout and easy resort to terror the simple truth remains unrefuted and irrefutable: ACCORDING TO THE JEWISH FAITH AND TORAH LAW THE JEWISH PEOPLE ARE FORBIDDEN TO HAVE THEIR OWN STATE WHILE AWAITING THE MESSIANIC ERA!
The Creator gave us the Holy Land thousands of years ago. Yet, when we sinned, He took it away and sent us into exile. Since that time our task is to wait for Him to send the Messiah. At that time, the Creator alone, without any human being lifting a hand or saying a word, will bring us together and take us out of exile. He will likewise establish universal peace among all mankind and all will serve Him in good will.
Some religious Jews, confused by Zionist propaganda quote Biblical verses that state that G-d gave the children of Israel the Holy Land. They overlook, unfortunately, those verses which say that He took it away due to our sins. They further ignore those prophecies which explicitly describe the last exile's conclusion as a Divine, not a human process.
The Creator has commanded every Jew to follow the ways of peace and to be loyal to the country where he lives.
Torah true Jewry waits patiently for the Messianic redemption. They have nothing to do with any kind of pseudo "Jewish State" and its aggressions against other peoples. They have a deep sympathy for the plight of the Palestinians who have suffered the most from Zionism's false teachings and barbaric actions. The Zionist state is not a Jewish state. The Zionists alone are the only ones responsible for their actions. Authentic Jewry has and will continue to oppose the very existence of this blasphemous state.
May all mankind witness the true redemption.
http://www.nkusa.org...not_zionism.cfm
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Anti-Zionist Orthodox Rabbis present Plaque to new Palestinian President Mahamoud Abbas
washington, dc
May 27, 2005
On May 27, 2005 a delegation of anti-Zionist Orthodox Rabbis met with new Palestinian President, Mahamoud Abbas at the Ritz Carlton Hotel in Washington , DC to present him with a plaque engraved with a biblical blessing from the Jewish community wishing that he should be successful in his Presidency. The position of the anti-Zionist Orthodox Jewish community in regard to Palestine seemed well accepted by the new president and the delegation expressed great hopes for future peaceful coexistence and the ultimate peaceful dismantling of the state of “ Israel ” and that ruler ship over the entire Holy Land will be restored to the Palestinian people.
picture here:
http://www.nkusa.org...2005May27DC.cfm
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ZIONIST VIOLENCE & INTIMIDATION
These photos demonstrate the lengths to which the Zionist regime will go to persecute Jews opposed to Zionism. These reflect only a number of the many instances in which loyal anti-Zionist Jews are subject to relentless oppression if they speak up against the actions of the Zionist State. Recently a number of anti-Zionist Orthodox Jews have been sent to jail for refusal to submit to Zionist intimidation and coercion. These photos also give a sense of why many Jews who oppose Zionism are subject to intimidation to the extent that many are reluctant to demonstrate their opposition to Zionism publicly.
photos here: http://www.nkusa.org...lence/index.cfm
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Anti-Zionist Orthodox Jews brutally attacked in synagogue, jerusalem, Holy Land after demonstrating against zionist violence
April 26, 2005
On April 26, 2005, thousands of Anti-Zionist Orthodox Jews in Jerusalem gathered to protest the despicable events which occurred during a protest at Highway 6 near Kibbutz Regavin when demonstrators against the Highway expansion which was destroying ancient Jewish graves were viciously attacked by Security Guards.
In retaliation for the mass protest, Israeli police entered an Orthodox Jewish Synagogue in Jerusalem and attacked devout Jews who were in the shul to pray during the Passover Holiday.
photo and video clip here: http://www.nkusa.org...05Jerusalem.cfm
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PRAY FOR TRUE ISRAEL!!!!!!!!!!!
"Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend."
~Pro 27:17
~Pro 27:17
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Posted 28 July 2005 - 07:21 AM
Perhaps,
There's no such thing as "TRUE" Jewry today.
All TRUE Jews have accepted Jesus as Messiah;;; so, those Jews are now Christians. And thus, the Bible is true. In that, Paul said "There is neither Jew nor Gentile, Barbarian nor Greek, male nor female, slave nor free, .........for we are all one in Christ". (or we SHOULD BE one in Christ).
Jews (today) are no more valid than the rest of us who have rejected Christ. There 's very little practical advantage to the Jews claim on the Promised Land (no more so than the Russian's claim to the land of Russia).
It's true that the Physical Elect (blood-descendants from Abe's physical loins) own the physical Promised Land (from Egypt to the Euphrates). BUT! the Jews are on their way to Hell, unless they accept Christ. What good is it to be a Jew? They're un-saved at the present time, just like the Many in the gentile world.
The Jews (at this time) own from the Mediteranean to the Jordan. But, what good is it to them? They don't occupy all that land. The powers that be don't recognize their ownership. The Jews are fighting a war to be on a portion of their land. And those Jews are on their way to Hell. God (at this time) has not provided the Jews with an occupation of ALL their land, or a Temple on the Mount. What good is it to build the Temple on the Mount? The ones who want to build the Stone Temple are on their way to Hell.
The whole fiasco is NOT God-ordained. The Jews and the Zionists (if there's a difference) are both enemies of God. They've rejected Christ and His teachings, and His Golden Rule, and His Salvation, and His love, wisdom,
We (Christians) managed to surrender to Christ... Why can't the Jews and Zionists (and the rest of un-believers, Gentiles)?
This whole fiasco is a War against Christ and His Love.
Do Jews preach the Golden Rule? Do Jews teach their children, "Help the poor. Love your enemies. Feed your hungry enemies. Bless those who rob you. Turn the other cheek. Go the second mile"?
No! They've rejected the One who is more Loving than all the rest of us combined. And they know it. They've willingly and maliciously rejected Love, Truth, and Wisdom.
Why don't the Japanese accept Love? They maliciously reject Love;;; the Japanese don't want Christ. They'd rather have the pleasures of sin.
And the British, French, Arubans, Americans are no better than the Japanese. We ALL know that Christ is right and we're wrong.
None of us have lived according to own moral standards. We've ALL violated our own consciences. Christ's standard of Love is far, Far, FAR, HIGHER than our standards. And we don't live up to our own standards.
Let the Jews, the Japanese, the Americans lay down our weapons of war against Christ. Let's declare a Peace Surrender with the One who is Greater and more Loving than we.
dennis manning
There's no such thing as "TRUE" Jewry today.
All TRUE Jews have accepted Jesus as Messiah;;; so, those Jews are now Christians. And thus, the Bible is true. In that, Paul said "There is neither Jew nor Gentile, Barbarian nor Greek, male nor female, slave nor free, .........for we are all one in Christ". (or we SHOULD BE one in Christ).
Jews (today) are no more valid than the rest of us who have rejected Christ. There 's very little practical advantage to the Jews claim on the Promised Land (no more so than the Russian's claim to the land of Russia).
It's true that the Physical Elect (blood-descendants from Abe's physical loins) own the physical Promised Land (from Egypt to the Euphrates). BUT! the Jews are on their way to Hell, unless they accept Christ. What good is it to be a Jew? They're un-saved at the present time, just like the Many in the gentile world.
The Jews (at this time) own from the Mediteranean to the Jordan. But, what good is it to them? They don't occupy all that land. The powers that be don't recognize their ownership. The Jews are fighting a war to be on a portion of their land. And those Jews are on their way to Hell. God (at this time) has not provided the Jews with an occupation of ALL their land, or a Temple on the Mount. What good is it to build the Temple on the Mount? The ones who want to build the Stone Temple are on their way to Hell.
The whole fiasco is NOT God-ordained. The Jews and the Zionists (if there's a difference) are both enemies of God. They've rejected Christ and His teachings, and His Golden Rule, and His Salvation, and His love, wisdom,
We (Christians) managed to surrender to Christ... Why can't the Jews and Zionists (and the rest of un-believers, Gentiles)?
This whole fiasco is a War against Christ and His Love.
Do Jews preach the Golden Rule? Do Jews teach their children, "Help the poor. Love your enemies. Feed your hungry enemies. Bless those who rob you. Turn the other cheek. Go the second mile"?
No! They've rejected the One who is more Loving than all the rest of us combined. And they know it. They've willingly and maliciously rejected Love, Truth, and Wisdom.
Why don't the Japanese accept Love? They maliciously reject Love;;; the Japanese don't want Christ. They'd rather have the pleasures of sin.
And the British, French, Arubans, Americans are no better than the Japanese. We ALL know that Christ is right and we're wrong.
None of us have lived according to own moral standards. We've ALL violated our own consciences. Christ's standard of Love is far, Far, FAR, HIGHER than our standards. And we don't live up to our own standards.
Let the Jews, the Japanese, the Americans lay down our weapons of war against Christ. Let's declare a Peace Surrender with the One who is Greater and more Loving than we.
dennis manning
www.bible-codes.org
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Posted 28 July 2005 - 07:55 AM
Ishtob is playing the same old music and Dennis you've decide for some reason, that's beyond me, to pick up the drum??
Am l alone here?
Dennis you said; Jews (today) are no more valid than the rest of us who have rejected Christ. There 's very little practical advantage to the Jews claim on the Promised Land (no more so than the Russian's claim to the land of Russia). 'Little practical advantage'?????
Ever hear the song Exodus? "This land is mine...God gave this land to me"?
God didn't change his mind because the Jew rejected God or Christ. He's allowing them to eat the days. THEN! Not because of anything good they have done but BECAUSE OF GOD'S WORD AND COVENANT the veil will be lifted.
We don't have a right to anything but by Gods word. And his word is that the Jew's will have the land and it will never again be taken from them. This is such a basic teaching of Judaism and Christianity that l can't believe you are saying 'screw it the Jews don't deserve it'?
It's NOT in God's word and l won't receive it as an "opinion" as it is against God's doctrine. Your words scare me.
Am l alone here?
Dennis you said; Jews (today) are no more valid than the rest of us who have rejected Christ. There 's very little practical advantage to the Jews claim on the Promised Land (no more so than the Russian's claim to the land of Russia). 'Little practical advantage'?????
Ever hear the song Exodus? "This land is mine...God gave this land to me"?
God didn't change his mind because the Jew rejected God or Christ. He's allowing them to eat the days. THEN! Not because of anything good they have done but BECAUSE OF GOD'S WORD AND COVENANT the veil will be lifted.
We don't have a right to anything but by Gods word. And his word is that the Jew's will have the land and it will never again be taken from them. This is such a basic teaching of Judaism and Christianity that l can't believe you are saying 'screw it the Jews don't deserve it'?
It's NOT in God's word and l won't receive it as an "opinion" as it is against God's doctrine. Your words scare me.
My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one.
John 10: 27-30
Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. Psa. 119: 105
John 10: 27-30
Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. Psa. 119: 105
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Posted 28 July 2005 - 09:59 AM
This post is a very different agenda from Ishtob's.
I'm not taking sides with/or/against Ishtob (I've not studied Ishtob's posts enough to agree or dis-agree with her. Sorry, Ishtob. I've been very busy with other stuff).
I understand that Israel plays a specific part in the last days. They are back in the Promised Land (now), because of God's Miracle (Or God's permissive will).
What is God's Perfect will for Israel? To become Christians!!
After the Jew becomes a Christian, there is neither Jew nor Gentile FOR THAT PERSON, AND THE CHURCH.
The Jews who have not gotten saved yet? They own the Promised Land (Abe's Land), BUT! they're on the way to Hell. If we are in the last generation of the Jews (I think we are), these Jews will be saved (All Israel will be saved), but it's only "ALL Israel which survives the Trib". Many Jews now living will die (un-saved) before the END-OF TRIB/Divine-Rescue-of-Israel.
The Jew who dies today goes to hell.
The Jew (alive today) who survives the Trib, and makes it to the last Day of the Trib, will convert to Faith in Christ on the last Day, and will be saved through Faith in Christ.
Why does he believe in Christ ON THE LAST DAY? He sees the Physical Miraculous Rescue of National Israel.
Did the Jew believe in Christ because he found the Spiritual things of Christ to be attractive? No. It took a Divine (Physical) Rescue to get him to believe. He didn't believe in Christ until he saw the Physical Miracle. Why didn't he believe BEFORE the Physical Miracle? He didn't find the Spiritual things of Christ to be attractive.
Jesus told (doubting) Thomas, "You have believed because you have seen Me. Blessed are those who have not seen, and yet, they believe".
Today, we convert to Christianity for Spiritual reasons;;; for example, we find His Love and forgiveness to be attractive.
At the End-of-Trib, the Jews believe and "convert?" because they were "forced?" into belief by the Physical Miracle and the Physical, "in-the-flesh", appearance of Jesus.
The Salvation of Christians and the "Salvation of ALL Israel at the End-of-Trib" are very different.
Why doesn't the Jew get saved today? He is un-repentant (so much so, that it'll take an earth-shaking Divine Physical Miracle to get him to believe in Christ.
What about the Jews who die during the Trib, before the End-of-Trib? They go to Hell. They never believed in Christ. They don't find Christ (spiritually) attractive.
All Israel will be saved. BUT! It's a ?wierd? Salvation. Only those Jews who survive the Trib are saved. By a "forced" belief in Christ. By a stupendous Physical Miracle by Christ. Because Christ loved Abe, Issac, Jacob/Israel. Israel gets a Physical Miracle;;; so they get a Physical Salvation. They get an OT salvation,,, NOT a NT salvation. Fot the Physical Elect, the Trib operates under OT rules,,, NOT NT rules.
The "All Israel" (who gets saved at the End), do they sit on thrones and rule the world during the Mill Reign (as with us im-mortal NT Christians)?
No.
During the Mill, they live in the Promised Land (as mortals) during the Mill, and they serve the Messiah and His Temple. During the Mill, the Jews celebrate the Jewish festivals, and they Physically minister to the Gentile nations which present themselves to Jesus each year in Jerusalem. Those nations which do not travel to Jerusalem during the Mill;;; they don't get rain on their crops that year.
Can Jews and Gentiles get Spiritually saved during the Mill Reign? Yes, if they (truly, spiritually) love Christ, and convert (in their heart). During the Mill.
BUT! The Many are so wicked and rebellious (during the Mill) that they will rebel against Christ's Rule at the End-of-Mill, and make War with Christ.
*******
During the Mill:
The mortals (Jews and gentiles) are still making babies. They have to work for a living. They live long lives. The ones who die at a hundred years are said to have died pre-maturely.
The im-mortals (Christians) live forever, are neither male nor female, have no more babies. They have resurrection (better, perfect) bodies. They have ?perfect? love, wisdom, fellowship, etc
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It'll be perfect. Come along, and be with us!
dennis manning
I'm not taking sides with/or/against Ishtob (I've not studied Ishtob's posts enough to agree or dis-agree with her. Sorry, Ishtob. I've been very busy with other stuff).
I understand that Israel plays a specific part in the last days. They are back in the Promised Land (now), because of God's Miracle (Or God's permissive will).
What is God's Perfect will for Israel? To become Christians!!
After the Jew becomes a Christian, there is neither Jew nor Gentile FOR THAT PERSON, AND THE CHURCH.
The Jews who have not gotten saved yet? They own the Promised Land (Abe's Land), BUT! they're on the way to Hell. If we are in the last generation of the Jews (I think we are), these Jews will be saved (All Israel will be saved), but it's only "ALL Israel which survives the Trib". Many Jews now living will die (un-saved) before the END-OF TRIB/Divine-Rescue-of-Israel.
The Jew who dies today goes to hell.
The Jew (alive today) who survives the Trib, and makes it to the last Day of the Trib, will convert to Faith in Christ on the last Day, and will be saved through Faith in Christ.
Why does he believe in Christ ON THE LAST DAY? He sees the Physical Miraculous Rescue of National Israel.
Did the Jew believe in Christ because he found the Spiritual things of Christ to be attractive? No. It took a Divine (Physical) Rescue to get him to believe. He didn't believe in Christ until he saw the Physical Miracle. Why didn't he believe BEFORE the Physical Miracle? He didn't find the Spiritual things of Christ to be attractive.
Jesus told (doubting) Thomas, "You have believed because you have seen Me. Blessed are those who have not seen, and yet, they believe".
Today, we convert to Christianity for Spiritual reasons;;; for example, we find His Love and forgiveness to be attractive.
At the End-of-Trib, the Jews believe and "convert?" because they were "forced?" into belief by the Physical Miracle and the Physical, "in-the-flesh", appearance of Jesus.
The Salvation of Christians and the "Salvation of ALL Israel at the End-of-Trib" are very different.
Why doesn't the Jew get saved today? He is un-repentant (so much so, that it'll take an earth-shaking Divine Physical Miracle to get him to believe in Christ.
What about the Jews who die during the Trib, before the End-of-Trib? They go to Hell. They never believed in Christ. They don't find Christ (spiritually) attractive.
All Israel will be saved. BUT! It's a ?wierd? Salvation. Only those Jews who survive the Trib are saved. By a "forced" belief in Christ. By a stupendous Physical Miracle by Christ. Because Christ loved Abe, Issac, Jacob/Israel. Israel gets a Physical Miracle;;; so they get a Physical Salvation. They get an OT salvation,,, NOT a NT salvation. Fot the Physical Elect, the Trib operates under OT rules,,, NOT NT rules.
The "All Israel" (who gets saved at the End), do they sit on thrones and rule the world during the Mill Reign (as with us im-mortal NT Christians)?
No.
During the Mill, they live in the Promised Land (as mortals) during the Mill, and they serve the Messiah and His Temple. During the Mill, the Jews celebrate the Jewish festivals, and they Physically minister to the Gentile nations which present themselves to Jesus each year in Jerusalem. Those nations which do not travel to Jerusalem during the Mill;;; they don't get rain on their crops that year.
Can Jews and Gentiles get Spiritually saved during the Mill Reign? Yes, if they (truly, spiritually) love Christ, and convert (in their heart). During the Mill.
BUT! The Many are so wicked and rebellious (during the Mill) that they will rebel against Christ's Rule at the End-of-Mill, and make War with Christ.
*******
During the Mill:
The mortals (Jews and gentiles) are still making babies. They have to work for a living. They live long lives. The ones who die at a hundred years are said to have died pre-maturely.
The im-mortals (Christians) live forever, are neither male nor female, have no more babies. They have resurrection (better, perfect) bodies. They have ?perfect? love, wisdom, fellowship, etc
****************
It'll be perfect. Come along, and be with us!
dennis manning
www.bible-codes.org
www.demonbusters.com
www.omegamanradio.com
www.theelijahchallenge.org
win worley
bill schnoebelen
www.demonbusters.com
www.omegamanradio.com
www.theelijahchallenge.org
win worley
bill schnoebelen
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Posted 28 July 2005 - 11:15 AM
If we don't read what people post how will we know who they belong to? Are we responsible to the forum we attach our names to or not? Do you just throw your hands in the air and say "oh well, to each his own". That's not what GOD says in
2 John
10 If someone comes to your meeting and does not teach the truth about Christ, don't invite him into your house or encourage him in any way. 11 Anyone who encourages him becomes a partner in his evil work.
If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into [your] house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
And Dennis what about the 144,000 virgin Jews sealed before hand that refused to bow to other Gods?
2 John
10 If someone comes to your meeting and does not teach the truth about Christ, don't invite him into your house or encourage him in any way. 11 Anyone who encourages him becomes a partner in his evil work.
If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into [your] house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
And Dennis what about the 144,000 virgin Jews sealed before hand that refused to bow to other Gods?
My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one.
John 10: 27-30
Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. Psa. 119: 105
John 10: 27-30
Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. Psa. 119: 105