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perhaps at his coming our minds will be open to the language of Hebrews..or...
perhaps tongues will be our main meal. Most will never speak fluent Hebrew...
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Posted 29 November 2009 - 04:34 PM
Well thanks ..but l knew you didn't study for tongues.
But to satisfy all of us,
perhaps at his coming our minds will be open to the language of Hebrews..or...
perhaps tongues will be our main meal. Most will never speak fluent Hebrew...
But to satisfy all of us,
perhaps at his coming our minds will be open to the language of Hebrews..or...
perhaps tongues will be our main meal. Most will never speak fluent Hebrew...
My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one.
John 10: 27-30
Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. Psa. 119: 105
John 10: 27-30
Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. Psa. 119: 105
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Posted 29 November 2009 - 04:51 PM
Miki, on Nov 30 2009, 06:34 AM, said:
Well thanks ..but l knew you didn't study for tongues.
But to satisfy all of us,
perhaps at his coming our minds will be open to the language of Hebrews..or...
perhaps tongues will be our main meal. Most will never speak fluent Hebrew...
But to satisfy all of us,
perhaps at his coming our minds will be open to the language of Hebrews..or...
perhaps tongues will be our main meal. Most will never speak fluent Hebrew...
the lost never will
....if there are tongues, they will cease...
1 Corinthians 13:8
1 Corinthians 13:8
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Philippians 2:6
Philippians 2:6
And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature,
and in favour with God and man.
Luke 2:52
and in favour with God and man.
Luke 2:52
Curse of Tower of Babel (confusion of tongues) will be removed :
Now it shall come to pass in the latter days that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established on the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and peoples shall flow to it.
Many nations shall come and say, "Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; He will teach us His ways, and we shall walk in His paths." For out of Zion the law shall go forth, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.
He shall judge between many peoples, and rebuke strong nations afar off; they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
Micah 4:1-3
And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another,
and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh
come to worship before me, saith the LORD
Isaiah 66:23
For then will I turn to the people a pure language,
that they may all call upon the name of the LORD,
to serve him with one consent.
Zephaniah 3:9
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Miki, on Nov 13 2009, 02:51 AM, said:
I thought this was an interesting:
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Hebrew Gives Depth to the New Testament
The study of biblical Hebrew is not only revealing mysteries in the Old Testament but also the New Testament. How can that be, you may ask, when the New Testament was not written in Hebrew but rather in Greek (or Aramaic)? Some will debate this idea but all I can say is that Jesus of Nazareth and His disciples, being average Jewish men of that time, did speak, read, write, and think in Hebrew. Those who by divine inspiration wrote the New Testament were not of the learned elite who communicated in Greek but were of the rural folks who communicated in Hebrew.
How many of us would like to understand the final book of our New Testament, the book of Revelation? Show of hands? Mine's up too. I've found that we cannot fully appreciate or understand this book without applying the Hebrew alphabet to it. I'm not saying the full eschatological, prophetic understanding will come as a result, but great inspiration will come.
The book *"The Wisdom in the Hebrew Alphabet" by Rabbi Michael L. Munk was read by evangelical minister J.R. Church and his partner Gary Stearman. In their book "The Mystery of the Menorah and the Hebrew Alphabet" they say, "For countless centuries, Jewish expositors have taught that each of the letters in their alphabet is a reflection of God's creative power. They believe their alphabet is a manifestation of God's essence and that, taken as a whole, it speaks of His attributes."6
Church and Stearman began to apply this concept not only to the Old Testament but to the New. They found it significant in the entire New Testament but especially in the book of Revelation. They discovered that the 22 chapters in Revelation have a relationship to the 22 consonants of the Hebrew alphabet. Each of the 22 chapters of Revelation corresponds perfectly with the symbolic meaning of the Hebrew alphabet! Isn't that awesome?
For example, it's interesting how Revelation chapter 4 connects with the 4th letter d (dahlet). The Hebrew letter dahlet when written looks something like a doorway and dahlet is actually the word for door. This chapter in Revelation talks about the doorway to Heaven where the way has been made for us sinful human beings to be admitted to Shaymayim (Heaven). Our Lord is the doorway to eternity.
Another example is the 12th Hebrew letter, lahmed, that goes with chapter 12 of Revelation. It is the tallest letter of the alphabet and is flanked on each side by the letters kahf and mem.
"The kahf is said to represent God's throne of glory, the mem, God's Kingship. Together the mem, lahmed and kahf [right to left in Hebrew] form the Hebrew wordmelek meaning 'King.' Fascinating! Revelation 12 features the birth of the King" 7 (Rev. 12:1-5).
At the beginning of the book of Revelation, Jesus announced "I am Alpha and Omega . . ." (Rev. 1:8a). At the end of the book, He again announces it: "I am the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last" (Rev. 22:13). Church and Stearman saw the connection clearly - our LORD in essence is the alphabet. In Hebrew it would read "I am the Aleph and the Tav." These are the first and last letters of the Hebrew alphabet. Jesus the Messiah also fulfills the attributes of all the other letters of the alphabet in between.
The very name and meaning of this final book of the Bible is "The Revelation of Jesus Christ." Now even more of His wisdom and fellowship are revealed to us through the Hebrew Aleph-beit. (Aleph and bet are the first two letters of the aleph - beit and are where the name 'alphabet' originated.)
One of the clues guiding Stearman and Church was when they learned that in the time of Jesus and before, the Jews considered their Bible (O.T.) to consist of 22 books. Their commentators even stated that these 22 books corresponded to the 22 consonants of the Hebrew alphabet. (We know that at the beginning of God's revelation to man, the Bible was written without chapters or verses. Now we find that even as these were added later by the scribes, the Holy Spirit was guiding.)
This alphabetic pattern, when applied to the New Testament by J.R. and Gary was found to have the same effect. In their book they say,
". . . We found 27 books, seemingly too many for a match. Too many, that is, until we added the five Hebrew "final letters" to the alphabet. [These are 5 sofit or final form letters khahf - ch, mem - m, nun - n, fey - f, tsahdee - ts] Once again, we found a perfect match! And here too, in the five final letters, we found a special message of finality, or culmination." 8 This gives a mighty conclusion to the entire Bible.
To learn more, I recommend you get a copy of J.R. Church and Gary Stearman's book. You'll also enjoy their monthly magazine "Prophecy in the News."9 They consistently bring in Hebrew meanings to what they teach.
The study of biblical Hebrew is not only revealing mysteries in the Old Testament but also the New Testament. How can that be, you may ask, when the New Testament was not written in Hebrew but rather in Greek (or Aramaic)? Some will debate this idea but all I can say is that Jesus of Nazareth and His disciples, being average Jewish men of that time, did speak, read, write, and think in Hebrew. Those who by divine inspiration wrote the New Testament were not of the learned elite who communicated in Greek but were of the rural folks who communicated in Hebrew.
How many of us would like to understand the final book of our New Testament, the book of Revelation? Show of hands? Mine's up too. I've found that we cannot fully appreciate or understand this book without applying the Hebrew alphabet to it. I'm not saying the full eschatological, prophetic understanding will come as a result, but great inspiration will come.
The book *"The Wisdom in the Hebrew Alphabet" by Rabbi Michael L. Munk was read by evangelical minister J.R. Church and his partner Gary Stearman. In their book "The Mystery of the Menorah and the Hebrew Alphabet" they say, "For countless centuries, Jewish expositors have taught that each of the letters in their alphabet is a reflection of God's creative power. They believe their alphabet is a manifestation of God's essence and that, taken as a whole, it speaks of His attributes."6
Church and Stearman began to apply this concept not only to the Old Testament but to the New. They found it significant in the entire New Testament but especially in the book of Revelation. They discovered that the 22 chapters in Revelation have a relationship to the 22 consonants of the Hebrew alphabet. Each of the 22 chapters of Revelation corresponds perfectly with the symbolic meaning of the Hebrew alphabet! Isn't that awesome?
For example, it's interesting how Revelation chapter 4 connects with the 4th letter d (dahlet). The Hebrew letter dahlet when written looks something like a doorway and dahlet is actually the word for door. This chapter in Revelation talks about the doorway to Heaven where the way has been made for us sinful human beings to be admitted to Shaymayim (Heaven). Our Lord is the doorway to eternity.
Another example is the 12th Hebrew letter, lahmed, that goes with chapter 12 of Revelation. It is the tallest letter of the alphabet and is flanked on each side by the letters kahf and mem.
"The kahf is said to represent God's throne of glory, the mem, God's Kingship. Together the mem, lahmed and kahf [right to left in Hebrew] form the Hebrew wordmelek meaning 'King.' Fascinating! Revelation 12 features the birth of the King" 7 (Rev. 12:1-5).
At the beginning of the book of Revelation, Jesus announced "I am Alpha and Omega . . ." (Rev. 1:8a). At the end of the book, He again announces it: "I am the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last" (Rev. 22:13). Church and Stearman saw the connection clearly - our LORD in essence is the alphabet. In Hebrew it would read "I am the Aleph and the Tav." These are the first and last letters of the Hebrew alphabet. Jesus the Messiah also fulfills the attributes of all the other letters of the alphabet in between.
The very name and meaning of this final book of the Bible is "The Revelation of Jesus Christ." Now even more of His wisdom and fellowship are revealed to us through the Hebrew Aleph-beit. (Aleph and bet are the first two letters of the aleph - beit and are where the name 'alphabet' originated.)
One of the clues guiding Stearman and Church was when they learned that in the time of Jesus and before, the Jews considered their Bible (O.T.) to consist of 22 books. Their commentators even stated that these 22 books corresponded to the 22 consonants of the Hebrew alphabet. (We know that at the beginning of God's revelation to man, the Bible was written without chapters or verses. Now we find that even as these were added later by the scribes, the Holy Spirit was guiding.)
This alphabetic pattern, when applied to the New Testament by J.R. and Gary was found to have the same effect. In their book they say,
". . . We found 27 books, seemingly too many for a match. Too many, that is, until we added the five Hebrew "final letters" to the alphabet. [These are 5 sofit or final form letters khahf - ch, mem - m, nun - n, fey - f, tsahdee - ts] Once again, we found a perfect match! And here too, in the five final letters, we found a special message of finality, or culmination." 8 This gives a mighty conclusion to the entire Bible.
To learn more, I recommend you get a copy of J.R. Church and Gary Stearman's book. You'll also enjoy their monthly magazine "Prophecy in the News."9 They consistently bring in Hebrew meanings to what they teach.
And Jesus said to them, "Therefore every scribe who has become
a disciple of the kingdom of heaven is like a head of a household,
who brings out of his treasure things new and old."
Matthew 13:52
a disciple of the kingdom of heaven is like a head of a household,
who brings out of his treasure things new and old."
Matthew 13:52
"For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away,
not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Torah
until all is accomplished.
Matthew 5:18
Description:
From the very first Kabbalistic work, through the Talmud, through an impressive array of rabbinic literature, great minds have found the Aleph-Beis to be a gold mine of wisdom and guidance. This fascinating best-seller weaves these golden threads into a glorious tapestry, presenting hundreds of ideas and comments on the Aleph-Beis, including: the Aleph-Beis as the force of Creation, as a primer for Jewish living, and as a fountainhead of Torah insight and mystical meaning. The product of decades of learning, thinking, and teaching by the revered educator, lecturer, and community activist Rabbi Michael L. Munk. A treat not to be missed.
not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Torah
until all is accomplished.
Matthew 5:18
* The Wisdom In The Hebrew Alphabet
The sacred letters as a guide to Jewish deed and thought.
By Rabbi Michael L. Munk (Author)
The sacred letters as a guide to Jewish deed and thought.
By Rabbi Michael L. Munk (Author)
Description:
From the very first Kabbalistic work, through the Talmud, through an impressive array of rabbinic literature, great minds have found the Aleph-Beis to be a gold mine of wisdom and guidance. This fascinating best-seller weaves these golden threads into a glorious tapestry, presenting hundreds of ideas and comments on the Aleph-Beis, including: the Aleph-Beis as the force of Creation, as a primer for Jewish living, and as a fountainhead of Torah insight and mystical meaning. The product of decades of learning, thinking, and teaching by the revered educator, lecturer, and community activist Rabbi Michael L. Munk. A treat not to be missed.
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Posted 30 November 2009 - 11:06 AM
My tongues comment was only tongue and cheek..no pun intended..yes..they will be done away with.
When l see all the wonderful information available on the Hebrew language l look with longing to know...but l'm also a realist..(regardless of what you might think)...The Lord does it different for me. taking one little piece at a time and showing me so l know how to learn.
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:aVcuiIPSJGvhZM:http://association.tarotstudies.org/images/ HebrewLettersA/yod.gif
I don't despise small beginnings nor focus on the impossible looking ending..but take it one step at a time and trust God. Yes.. I will never really understand it with out being fluent. Your people are special in that way...But God is merciful and lets me glean. There is life in those seeds.
I see the seed that has spilled over in my dove cage sprout and grow..It happens..The doves get their greens this way. No..it's not the freedom of the greens of heaven..just a promise.
When l see all the wonderful information available on the Hebrew language l look with longing to know...but l'm also a realist..(regardless of what you might think)...The Lord does it different for me. taking one little piece at a time and showing me so l know how to learn.
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:aVcuiIPSJGvhZM:http://association.tarotstudies.org/images/ HebrewLettersA/yod.gif
I don't despise small beginnings nor focus on the impossible looking ending..but take it one step at a time and trust God. Yes.. I will never really understand it with out being fluent. Your people are special in that way...But God is merciful and lets me glean. There is life in those seeds.
I see the seed that has spilled over in my dove cage sprout and grow..It happens..The doves get their greens this way. No..it's not the freedom of the greens of heaven..just a promise.
This post has been edited by Miki: 30 November 2009 - 12:03 PM
My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one.
John 10: 27-30
Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. Psa. 119: 105
John 10: 27-30
Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. Psa. 119: 105
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Posted 30 November 2009 - 01:55 PM
Miki, on Dec 1 2009, 01:06 AM, said:
My tongues comment was only tongue and cheek..no pun intended..yes..they will be done away with.
When l see all the wonderful information available on the Hebrew language l look with longing to know...but l'm also a realist..(regardless of what you might think)...The Lord does it different for me. taking one little piece at a time and showing me so l know how to learn.
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:aVcuiIPSJGvhZM:http://association.tarotstudies.org/images/ HebrewLettersA/yod.gif
I don't despise small beginnings nor focus on the impossible looking ending..but take it one step at a time and trust God. Yes.. I will never really understand it with out being fluent. Your people are special in that way...But God is merciful and lets me glean. There is life in those seeds.
I see the seed that has spilled over in my dove cage sprout and grow..It happens..The doves get their greens this way. No..it's not the freedom of the greens of heaven..just a promise.
When l see all the wonderful information available on the Hebrew language l look with longing to know...but l'm also a realist..(regardless of what you might think)...The Lord does it different for me. taking one little piece at a time and showing me so l know how to learn.
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:aVcuiIPSJGvhZM:http://association.tarotstudies.org/images/ HebrewLettersA/yod.gif
I don't despise small beginnings nor focus on the impossible looking ending..but take it one step at a time and trust God. Yes.. I will never really understand it with out being fluent. Your people are special in that way...But God is merciful and lets me glean. There is life in those seeds.
I see the seed that has spilled over in my dove cage sprout and grow..It happens..The doves get their greens this way. No..it's not the freedom of the greens of heaven..just a promise.
Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself.
Each day has enough trouble of its own.
Matthew 6:34