[diverteach]

Miki, personally I have disagree with you and I'll give you my reasoning.

My father has been seeing this number over and over again, FOR YEARS now. For years it has been a distraction while he's looked for some kind of reason as to what it means. He's searched every chapter 11 verse 11 in the bible numerous times looking for some clue as to the meaning, convinced merely on the shear number of times it appears proving to be more than mere coincidence.

I intend to forward this post to my father for him to read and possibly give him that explanation.

Therefore I see it as a possible answer to a question that has been distracting us from where our attention and focus should be, on Christ.

[Miki]

I guess you can justify yourself Seven...But the way l see it...I don't need to know the enemies plans. Only Gods plan. He's the one to defeat the enemy on my behalf. I trust him with my life.

Again, you like C, bunch people into a group and then accuse the whole lot. I always shake my head and wonder why you don't look at individual lives. God does...

If the serpent entered the house there must have been a crack someplace. Anyway...that's neither here nor there if we get to the point.

You listened and now you pass on what you've heard and you pollute the message and turn this thing into a battle of powers with you doing the fighting according to the knowledge you pride yourself in and you think everybody that doesn't know are stupid fools going down with the ship.

It's not the wisdom and power you think you've gained from studying the enemies plans that's going to get you through the days a head. It's trusting the Lord.

Jehoshaphat...case in point.

Here's a song for you 7. I really wish you to be free of this. I don't know why l feel such a person-ability towards you because you get kind of jerky at times.. But l just do. I understand certain things. I know what freedom feels like. I want you to be free from having to do it yourself and the responsibility of knowledge as your edge. Jesus is your edge.

Quote

Album: Petra Praise: The Rock Cries Out
Song: The Battle Belongs To The Lord

In heavenly armour we'll enter the land
The battle belongs to the Lord
No weapon that's fashioned against us shall stand
The battle belongs to the Lord

We sing glory and honor
Power and strength to the Lord
(repeat)

The power of darkness comes in like a flood
The battle belongs to the Lord
He's raised up a standard, the power of His blood
The battle belongs to the Lord

When your enemy presses in hard do not fear
The battle belongs to the Lord
Take courage my friend, your redemption is near
The battle belongs to the Lord

Seven...I'm not a smart person...even maybe a little retarded in ways. I have to trust the Lord. That's a good thing...don't you think?

[SEVEN THUNDERS]

Miki, on Oct 11 2007, 06:15 AM, said:

I guess you can justify yourself Seven...But the way l see it...I don't need to know the enemies plans. Only Gods plan. He's the one to defeat the enemy on my behalf. I trust him with my life.

Again, you like C, bunch people into a group and then accuse the whole lot. I always shake my head and wonder why you don't look at individual lives. God does...

If the serpent entered the house there must have been a crack someplace. Anyway...that's neither here nor there if we get to the point.

You listened and now you pass on what you've heard and you pollute the message and turn this thing into a battle of powers with you doing the fighting according to the knowledge you pride yourself in and you think everybody that doesn't know are stupid fools going down with the ship.

It's not the wisdom and power you think you've gained from studying the enemies plans that's going to get you through the days a head. It's trusting the Lord.

Jehoshaphat...case in point.

Here's a song for you 7. I really wish you to be free of this. I don't know why l feel such a person-ability towards you because you get kind of jerky at times.. But l just do. I understand certain things. I know what freedom feels like. I want you to be free from having to do it yourself and the responsibility of knowledge as your edge. Jesus is your edge.

Quote

Album: Petra Praise: The Rock Cries Out
Song: The Battle Belongs To The Lord

In heavenly armour we'll enter the land
The battle belongs to the Lord
No weapon that's fashioned against us shall stand
The battle belongs to the Lord

We sing glory and honor
Power and strength to the Lord
(repeat)

The power of darkness comes in like a flood
The battle belongs to the Lord
He's raised up a standard, the power of His blood
The battle belongs to the Lord

When your enemy presses in hard do not fear
The battle belongs to the Lord
Take courage my friend, your redemption is near
The battle belongs to the Lord

Seven...I'm not a smart person...even maybe a little retarded in ways. I have to trust the Lord. That's a good thing...don't you think?

Miki... I am a mirror before you. What you claim you wish for me, in reality is what you wish for yourself. The freedom you want for me is the freedom that you are actually desiring and seeking in and for yourself. This process that you insatiably exercise, as always, in "targeting" me (exclusively) is called "projection", which literally has nothing to do with me, but with a “woundedness” inside of you since childhood. It is your very own struggle that you see reflected from me and mirrored back to you. It is not my struggle; it is not my woundedness, for I am liberated in Him. Thank you for your concern, but believe me the Lord fights my battles for me; I'm merely a vigilant Watchman on the Wall taking note of all the indicators and conditions, and disseminating the vital information. You speak of "looking at individual lives", but by imposing your "projection" upon me is an attempt to actually strip me of my individuality and substitute it with yourself. You do this because subconsciously you do not want to cognitively face your deepest childhood woundedness that you have repressed because like any woundedness, it is emotionally excruciating. I pray sooner than later that the Lord will give you the strength to face your brokenness and swiftly liberate you with all the Joy He desires for you. I do not hold any grudges against you because I understand these things, but I am not you. And the Lord does not expect me to be you, or like you. The Lord wants me to be me.

And another thing… you are smart, you aren’t retarded, by no means… You are beautifully and wonderfully made, a daughter of God in whom He is well pleased!

-7

P.S. – I love Petra, thank you.

[Miki]

Good try

I did deal with it...not fun but it's done...finished...

I saw you're heart once...not in all this phony kissing up stuff but in your real heart. It jumped off the page. You can't take it back...I saw. You have all these clothes on. Layer upon layer. Christ is always at the heart of the matter and usually buried deep inside of people.

Wear it on your sleeve. It's a good thing and the best ministry you'll ever have.

And yes l am retarded...though it's never been diagnosed as with many poor wayfaring stranger...but l accept who l am and am not phased by it as a negative in the least. God fills in the deficits.

I do target you...I'm not sure why but will follow the lead..It's not bad.
The freedom l experienced is the best ever. All the striving gone...At least the 'do it yourself' part.

And forgivness for trespassing!

[SEVEN THUNDERS]

Miki, on Oct 11 2007, 09:20 AM, said:

Good try

I did deal with it...not fun but it's done...finished...

I saw you're heart once...not in all this phony kissing up stuff but in your real heart. It jumped off the page. You can't take it back...I saw. You have all these clothes on. Layer upon layer. Christ is always at the heart of the matter and usually buried deep inside of people.

Wear it on your sleeve. It's a good thing and the best ministry you'll ever have.

And yes l am retarded...though it's never been diagnosed as with many poor wayfaring stranger...but l accept who l am and am not phased by it as a negative in the least. God fills in the deficits.

I do target you...I'm not sure why but will follow the lead..It's not bad.
The freedom l experienced is the best ever. All the striving gone...At least the 'do it yourself' part.

And forgivness for trespassing!

Miki... Though we are frequently at odds... I must admit, there really is something very likable about you... maybe it's because I can always count on you for a challenging discussion apt to make the rest of my hair fall out. Seriously, I'm so glad to hear of your liberation in Christ. Praise the Lord!

-7