[prov3004]

The Church is dead in God's eyes.....
we won't even believe in a version of HIS TRUTH!

They all can't be right....there is only one truth!.....

To Get a copy right to print, you must prove that what your printing
is different from the ORIGINAL.......

REV 22: 18 & 19
says if you change my words,
it will destroy you.

If your word of God dosen't say
in Daniel 3:25 " the Son of God" then you are not using truth, your are being lied to.

in John 3:16 it dosen't say " only begotten Son" again you've been lied to....

So to keep the TRUTH......you must begin with THE TRUTH!!!

dave

[gregg]

John 3:16
'For God so loved the world that he gave his ONLY BEGOTTEN Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlating life.'

G3439
μονογενής
monogenēs
mon-og-en-ace
From G3441 and G1096; only born, that is, sole: - only (begotten, child).

G3441
μόνος
monos
mon'-os
Probably from G3306; remaining, that is, sole or single; by implication mere: - alone, only, by themselves.

G3306
μένω
menō
men'-o
A primary verb; to stay (in a given place, state, relation or expectancy): - abide, continue, dwell, endure, be present, remain, stand, tarry (for), X thine own.

G1096
γίνομαι
ginomai
ghin'-om-ahee
A prolonged and middle form of a primary verb; to cause to be (“gen” -erate), that is, (reflexively) to become (come into being), used with great latitude (literally, figuratively, intensively, etc.): - arise be assembled, be (come, -fall, -have self), be brought (to pass), (be) come (to pass), continue, be divided, be done, draw, be ended, fall, be finished, follow, be found, be fulfilled, + God forbid, grow, happen, have, be kept, be made, be married, be ordained to be, partake, pass, be performed, be published, require, seem, be showed, X soon as it was, sound, be taken, be turned, use, wax, will, would, be wrought.

Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten (3439) Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

There have been many semblances of the Christ, i.e. Enoch, Noah, Moses, Elijah, etc., but only one Christ. See, none of the prophets of old could have given life, they came from the first Adam and through the first Adam came death.

This post has been edited by gregg: 14 August 2006 - 12:12 PM

[c-los medrano]

is that the answer you were looking for Jack?

[gregg]

prov3004, on Aug 9 2006, 11:48 AM, said:

The Church is dead in God's eyes.....
we won't even believe in a version of HIS TRUTH!

They all can't be right....there is only one truth!.....

To Get a copy right to print, you must prove that what your printing
is different from the ORIGINAL.......

REV 22: 18 & 19
says if you change my words,
it will destroy you.

If your word of God dosen't say
in Daniel 3:25 " the Son of God" then you are not using truth, your are being lied to.

in John 3:16 it dosen't say " only begotten Son" again you've been lied to....

So to keep the TRUTH......you must begin with THE TRUTH!!!

dave

I can remember back in 1985, I found an original Greek New Testament and I was so excited. Things just started happening for me, i.e. I started having visions and getting revelations and then one night while I was sitting in a field behind my apartment, I had the most moving experience. It was like all of my senses went into overdrive. I think I had a stroke. When the episode passed, I went back to my usual living, but I felt naked and I saw the people as demons ready to pounce and I hid. And I am still hiding; peering out toward the world using this computer thinking that it will give me THE TRUTH. I have met other people that have told me of the same experience, but when I see them again, they say 'I had another experience like the first one.' Years pass and through certain mediums I am told that the people that tell you that they have that experience more than once are not telling the truth, so I hide and try to figure out why they are telling me that.
Back and forth, back and forth. Are they telling me the truth or not?
Well, they seem to be getting happier and they get more money and more friends; they seem to be more active and enjoy what they are doing. Is that the truth?
Well, my grandfather was a Presbyterian minister in Holland and I think that I have a portion of the truth that was in his mind.
There is power in the truth.
And the truth is, my friend, you have no idea what is the truth that I have to follow, just as I have no idea what is the truth you have to follow.
When you claim that the word of God doesn't say so and so, to you maybe it doesn't; but when I turn to that passage in the word of God and it does and it has since they wrote the word of God, what am I to believe?
Am I to believe that the writers of the bible intentionally mislead you into believing that the truth does not reside in the flesh?
Or is it that these words mean something totally different that the flesh can comprehend?

[Minister D]

prov3004, on Aug 9 2006, 10:48 AM, said:

The Church is dead in God's eyes.....
we won't even believe in a version of HIS TRUTH!

They all can't be right....there is only one truth!.....

To Get a copy right to print, you must prove that what your printing
is different from the ORIGINAL.......

REV 22: 18 & 19
says if you change my words,
it will destroy you.

If your word of God dosen't say
in Daniel 3:25 " the Son of God" then you are not using truth, your are being lied to.

in John 3:16 it dosen't say " only begotten Son" again you've been lied to....

So to keep the TRUTH......you must begin with THE TRUTH!!!

dave

God has always reserved a remnant, you have got to know where and how to find what you seek, to find the true church, what will the sign be, "I am not talking about a bill board" what has God said the sign would be, "not what man says"

Unrecognized and discounted as a cult or fringe sect on the edge of supposed Christianity, the Churches of God has endured every trial and every storm it has faced.

For nearly 2,000 years almost everyone has been looking in the wrong place for God’s Church. The true Church was called out of this world—out of its religions, creeds, customs, beliefs and traditions of man. The word translated throughout the New Testament as “church” comes from the Greek word ecclesia, meaning to be “called out”—and Christ’s Church has come out of the world. And this has made it more difficult for traditional historians to locate it. Unlike historians within the Church, they simply did not know what to look for.

Since the Bible states that the entire world is deceived (Rev. 12:9), blinded (II Cor. 4:4) and cut off from God (Isa. 59:1-2), it is evident that civilization as a whole could never be greatly influenced by the truth or by the true Church that always strove to uphold it. This helps explain why so few would become converted in this or any other age. In fact, it is evident from just this next passage that the true Church of God would never be large. Notice how Christ addresses His Church in Luke 12:32: “Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom.”

The respected and accepted churches of this world are so because they teach the popular doctrines and traditions, familiar to the masses. By no means could any of these well-known denominations of professing Christianity be considered a “little flock.” Instead, many of them are comprised of millions, or even hundreds of millions of converts and adherents.

But all these churches can't be wrong can they? But this whole world is in tune with the very mind of the devil (Revelations 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, "which deceiveth the whole world": he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him

There are many sincere Seventh-day Adventists that have placed the writings of Mrs. E.G. White on as equal with the BIBLE!, how different is that of the Pope?

Satan has gone to great lengths to deceive the world about who mankind really is and what mankind's ultimate destiny is.

The Bible clearly teaches that if something isn't of God, it is from the Devil. Satan the devil is the arch deceiver.

Satan the devil is described as that great serpent who "deceives the whole world" (Revelation 12:9), and Jesus Christ clearly prophesied that the time of His second coming would be in a time of mass confusion, deception, delusion and spiritual darkness!

Satan the devil has his churches (Revelation 3:9 ; 17:4-6), and Satan has his ministers in those churches! (II Corinthians 11:13-15).

The Church was infiltrated during the first century with another gospel. Many false teachings and false churches under the name of "traditional Christianity" arose. As God reveals in Revelation 12:9